[Q] My Experience with the WP7/Samsung Focus - Focus General

Hey Guys;
So this is my rant about the Samsung Focus. I'll try to keep this brief.
I've been a huge fan of the Zune HD and since day one I've said that I'd switch if they ever add phone features (I was on a 3Gs at the time.)
So enter WP7; I LOVE the UI SOOO much that even though it's missing some really key things I was willing to overlook that and still got the Focus.
- I called AT&T to make sure they'd let me unlock it BEFORE I bought it because I'm taking a trip to Europe for a few months so I need to be able to use their local SIM. AT&T said "NO problem!" Once I got the phone however it turned into "We're not allowing it to be unlocked for 6 Months" (AT&T Sucks)
- It was suppose to take 15 minutes to active, it took 2 days (AT&T sucks)
- found out that WP7 doesn't connect to wireless networks that don't broadcast SSIDs (MS is clueless!) UPDATE: I take this one back... Still a pain, but maybe I'm being harsh...
But even after all these ridiculous issues that had me calling AT&T OVER AND OVER again, I was willing to keep the Phone....
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future! mad:) I've been able to get it to sync, but it errors out before it finishes and then it's unstable. Shooting errors out all the time. Came across this forum: http://tinyurl.com/focus-outlook
So now I'm about to crawl back to the OS I abandoned (android)
Worse of all; I put my 32Gb MicroSD card in the Focus and although it works great, I can't figure out how to format it and get it usable on other devices again. Only the focus can see it now... (has someone come across a fix for that yet?)
So there you have it... I'm not having a good phone week...

kcasante said:
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future!
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Firstly, the lastest Exchange is 2010 If you're not already on it, you really need to! It's awesome!
My Omnia 7 synched up first time, I really didn't expect it to be able to deal with the client certificate, but it seems to handle it all invisibly. I'm very, very, (VERY!), impressed by how flawlessly it has worked.
If you're not on Exchange 2010, you need to get your company into the Microsoft Partner Network and you will get licences for nearly all of the latest software. We jumped a version (from 2003 to 2010) and the improvement is gobsmacking. Exchange 2010 is so much more efficient, the servers are flying!

Smoothound said:
Firstly, the lastest Exchange is 2010 If you're not already on it, you really need to! It's awesome!
My Omnia 7 synched up first time, I really didn't expect it to be able to deal with the client certificate, but it seems to handle it all invisibly. I'm very, very, (VERY!), impressed by how flawlessly it has worked.
If you're not on Exchange 2010, you need to get your company into the Microsoft Partner Network and you will get licences for nearly all of the latest software. We jumped a version (from 2003 to 2010) and the improvement is gobsmacking. Exchange 2010 is so much more efficient, the servers are flying!
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Yes Smoothound, you're right it is 2010; my mistake.
And as for my company switching; I don't think I have any pull in that department. I don't think it's a good idea to call them out on the internet. Lets just say this is a company thats known worldwide as a household name ( and also just bought a dying phone brand due to their OS) I'm actually surprised that they're behind on that tech but I have no way of incluencing an upgrade unfortunately. I'm sure it's in the works but for when I need it, it's too little too late...

ActiveSync is working fine for me on Exchange 2003 without any issues at all. So, no, you don't have to be on the latest version of Exchange.

I'm pretty sure I have Exchange 2003 here (I know it's not 2010 or 2008) and it works just fine. The first time thru it wouldn't download images that were embedded in email but I'd pretty sure that was because of the half-assed network I was using at the time. When I got home and connected to my own network, did a hard reset and set it all up again, mail worked fine. No errors, nothing, just email. I read the same thing about the iPhone 4, too, but it works fine against my server, also.

markgamber said:
I'm pretty sure I have Exchange 2003 here (I know it's not 2010 or 2008) and it works just fine. The first time thru it wouldn't download images that were embedded in email but I'd pretty sure that was because of the half-assed network I was using at the time. When I got home and connected to my own network, did a hard reset and set it all up again, mail worked fine. No errors, nothing, just email. I read the same thing about the iPhone 4, too, but it works fine against my server, also.
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So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?

kcasante said:
So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?
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It has to be your Exchange infrastructure. I have tested the phone with Exchange 2003, 2007 & 2010 and they all work flawlessly. I'm an IT consultant and I have used my Focus to make sure it is compatible with my customers networks so that I can recommend it.

The only thing I'm sure is unusual about my set up is that since it's a dev system and it's just me using it for mail, I don't use SSL and have it turned off at the phone. Everything else is entirely straightfoward. I would think Microsoft would have decent integration between two of their own products BUT the phone is a Rev 1 system. You might take a look around the MS support site to see if anyone has had problems and if there's a reason and/or correction you can take. I second the thinking that it's probably something with your server and/or network but that's about the best I can do.

We are using Exchange 2007 and it works without a problem after the policy was corrected. Windows Phone 7 will not sync if the policy requires your phone to encrypt or strong unlock password (alphanumeric password). Our admin made a Windows Phone 7 policy for these items. Considering you cannot take the microsd out and it wont sync to desktops.. the encrypt is not a big deal.

In this thread the guy says going back and re-enter the information might work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833863&page=2
This happened to me as well. We have an Exchange 2003 server and what I did was go to "email and accounts" on the phone and went through the proccess and setup everything correctly but still got the error messages.
Now this is what fixed my issue (strange). I got out of the "email and accounts" and went into all programs list and opened "Outlook" , from there I put the settings in again for my account and presto, it just started working and syncing.
I did 2 phones likes this already and it works. Dont ask me how, but it does.
Hope this helps OP and anyone else using Exchange 2003.

kcasante said:
So now I'm really confused...
And when I set it up the first time it worked well too! All emails Contacts, and Calendar updates were flawless...
I have my corporate mail synced on my phone and iPad so when a mail comes in they all ding at the same time... Somewhere along the line, the focus stopped digging and I haven't gotten it back stable since....
When i set up the account automatically it has no problems finding my account but eventually errors out after pulling down some emails and contacts...
I can set it up manually but it doesn't make a difference.
I really don't want to return this thing because the only other phone thats useable on AT&T in my opinion is the iPhone 4 (or the Captivate) and I REALLY don't want to go back down that dark path
Any suggestions guys?
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I'm wondering if that additional microsd card you've in the Focus is causing you issues. I would remove the card, and hard reset the phone. Put in your Exchange info again and see if it doesn't work fine after that.

kcasante said:
Hey Guys;
So this is my rant about the Samsung Focus. I'll try to keep this brief.
I've been a huge fan of the Zune HD and since day one I've said that I'd switch if they ever add phone features (I was on a 3Gs at the time.)
So enter WP7; I LOVE the UI SOOO much that even though it's missing some really key things I was willing to overlook that and still got the Focus.
- I called AT&T to make sure they'd let me unlock it BEFORE I bought it because I'm taking a trip to Europe for a few months so I need to be able to use their local SIM. AT&T said "NO problem!" Once I got the phone however it turned into "We're not allowing it to be unlocked for 6 Months" (AT&T Sucks)
- It was suppose to take 15 minutes to active, it took 2 days (AT&T sucks)
- found out that WP7 doesn't connect to wireless networks that don't broadcast SSIDs (MS is clueless!)
But even after all these ridiculous issues that had me calling AT&T OVER AND OVER again, I was willing to keep the Phone....
Then came the deal breaker....
Since this is a really new OS from MS, They're supporting the newest exchange servers (2008) and if you're company doesn't have those new exchange servers dependable account syncing isn't in your future! mad:) I've been able to get it to sync, but it errors out before it finishes and then it's unstable. Shooting errors out all the time. Came across this forum: http://tinyurl.com/focus-outlook
So now I'm about to crawl back to the OS I abandoned (android)
Worse of all; I put my 32Gb MicroSD card in the Focus and although it works great, I can't figure out how to format it and get it usable on other devices again. Only the focus can see it now... (has someone come across a fix for that yet?)
So there you have it... I'm not having a good phone week...
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My company uses Exchange 2003 and I have had NO issues.. Works very well. Curious, what version of Exchange?

Sorry to hear about your issues. If I were consulting you prior to this I would have indicated that corporate users should let early adopters take first swing at the phone before you go for it but it sounded like you were willing to go through some pain.
As for the SSID, I wanted to comment that I think it is sort of unfair you are indicating that MS is clueless on that front. I have read many things from the wireless alliance and they seem to have been saying for more than just a few years (2006) that hidden SSID creates more problems that it solves and that it is not a true security feature. Here is a security analysts take on it: http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
So anyway, as the industry updates it's standards, MS will continue to push those standards, hidden SSID is not a standard and is actually confusing to other wireless networks and traffic congestion resolution problems.

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I think the title of this thread needs to be renamed.

AllTheWay said:
I think the title of this thread needs to be renamed.
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No worries; It's done.

Thresher said:
Sorry to hear about your issues. If I were consulting you prior to this I would have indicated that corporate users should let early adopters take first swing at the phone before you go for it but it sounded like you were willing to go through some pain.
As for the SSID, I wanted to comment that I think it is sort of unfair you are indicating that MS is clueless on that front. I have read many things from the wireless alliance and they seem to have been saying for more than just a few years (2006) that hidden SSID creates more problems that it solves and that it is not a true security feature. Here is a security analysts take on it: http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
So anyway, as the industry updates it's standards, MS will continue to push those standards, hidden SSID is not a standard and is actually confusing to other wireless networks and traffic congestion resolution problems.
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So here's the update...
I find that if I set the exchange account to check for mail every 15 minutes instead of push, it seems to be more stable... Although this is really weird (cause the same config on my iPad and my Evo 4G for that matter seems to work flawlessly) I'm just going to deal with it. Although my statements at the begining of this post was somewhat hard on the phone I will say again; I really LOVE the UI. and the Display is amazing... So much so that I'll deal with the crap I think it's missing for a while.
Here's to hoping MS is as agressive with their updates as they've said they're going to be.
Thanks for all the input guys.

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ATT 8525 and ATT 8925 Email problems

The company I work for recently (3 months ago) bought 3 ATT 8525's for people who travel. All 3 of the phones have this issue where when they go into their power save mode, and they will not send or receive Email or produce notifications about new email. It appears to me that when the phones go into this power save mode they turn off the wireless card in the phone. I have made every effort to figure this out myself but I finally broke down and called ATT who then transfered me to HTC. HTC told me that this is a bug in the phone and that they do not have a solution for it other than trying Windows Mobile 6. However, since ATT has not released WM6 for the 8525, and I don't feel like bricking a phone, the company decided to go ahead and buy the ATT 8925, hopping that the new phone wouldn't have this problem. Unfortunately it dose.
So getting down to my question. Does anyone know how to get these phones to send and receive Email, through WIFI and not the cell network, when they are in their power save mode?
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Oh and BTW, after toying around with the 8925 I do have to say that the new features included in the phone are quite nice, hate the chrome though.
Thanks
Via WiFi? No. You wouldn't like the battery life if it did.
Battery life
I don't really care about that right now. I'm just looking for a solution to the problem i am currently having.
Could be connected to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362
you need to disable the at&t proxie to use wifi to send mail/etc
To have the wifi alwayz on even in standby is not wise, you batter will die fast ......
I have no issues using Active sync with exchange 2007 i get emails even when in power save maybe you should get some exchange accounts
pwnage said:
I don't really care about that right now. I'm just looking for a solution to the problem i am currently having.
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You don't understand the gravity of what he told you. The battery life would literally be 2-3 hours.
Manually pressing the power button and tapping 'check for new messages' is a much better solution than being completely unable to access email for 3/4 of the workday because the battery has died.
Think about it.
Also, on your install CD, you'll find some AT&T software to push email to the phone automatically, waking up the phone using SMS. And, as other people have suggested, these phones were designed with Microsoft Exchange in mind and setting up an Exchange server would also help your problem.
Thank you for the replies.
Dose the "push" feature work with non exchange email servers. The only reason I ask is because we don't have an exchange server.
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Could be connected to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362
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I took a look at this and it seems to describe the problem i have very well. In regards to the battery life, is there a way to have the WIFI turn on when its time to check mail and then turn off after its finished? I would really like these phones to be using WIFI most of the time even though we have an unlimited data plan, WIFI just seems to be faster.
pwnage said:
Dose the "push" feature work with non exchange email servers. The only reason I ask is because we don't have an exchange server.
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Try www.emoze.com
ringy2 thank you. I'll take a look at that.
You know I have been working off of the thread linked above and I have gotten the phone to the point where it seems to be checking our mail server over GPRS/3G (I have turned the WIFI antenna off). The problem now is that the when it goes to check messages it won't DL any new ones that may be on the server. Any ideas?
Do you not have unlimited data with at&t? If you do then there is absolutely no reason not to leave wifi off and just use that for email. As for checking emails and not getting anything new. You need to adjust the settings for your account.
surrept, Yes we have an unlimited data plan and at this point i have given up on getting the phone to check via WIFI. As for the settings, what are you refering to? I have the account setup and i have configured it exactly how it is supposed to be. i have it DLing full copies of messages w/ no attachments, and it is set to check mail every 5 min (will change this back to 15 once i have finished testing).
Um, BTW - AT&T did release WM6 for the 8525... VERY much worth it. However, I'm still going for a 8925 for the doubled RAM/ROM & GPS...
I highly doubt that. Again i have looked in every deep dark place that the internet has and haven't found any WM6 ROM that I can DL from ATT site. you are probably referring to the "official" ATT ROM that i have seen floating around. Im not going to put that on these phones because, one I work for a descent size company and I don't want to be breaking any law and such on there behalf. Two I don't feel like bricking any of these phones. I want the warranty to be valid on them. If it was my personal phone i might try it. but since these are the companies phones it ain't gonna happen.

[Q] Wifi Help!!!!!

My Dell Venue Pro will not log onto my secured Wifi Connection. When I type in the password at hit "done" it tells me "your phone couldnt reach the wi-fi network" However, when my network is 'open' (not secured) it connects just fine. I am using an apple air port extreme. I am really confused.
Any ideas?
I doubt you are the only one. I read a comment on Engadget where someone reported a wifi problem as well.
Fear not, you are not alone. My brother has the same issue on his. We both have a Venue Pro, and a WPA secured network. My phone can connect to the network no problem, his will always fail. The only way it will work is on an unsecured connection. Not sure who to contact for support since we're on the bleeding edge here, but I think it'll be sorted shortly and hopefully easily.
Aw come on Dell and Microsoft!
WIFI problem? Unbelievable!
Arcarsenal said:
Fear not, you are not alone. My brother has the same issue on his. We both have a Venue Pro, and a WPA secured network. My phone can connect to the network no problem, his will always fail. The only way it will work is on an unsecured connection. Not sure who to contact for support since we're on the bleeding edge here, but I think it'll be sorted shortly and hopefully easily.
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I have the same problem too on 2 Venue Pro's that I have! I tried changing my router encryption settings to WEP, WPA, WPA2, Mixed(does all 3), and none of the settings worked. The only way is with no encryption. And on top of that, there is no way to touch any wi-fi settings other then just selecting the access point and giving it a password I really hope this can be resolved via an update and its not because of a bad phone!
richlee111 said:
I have the same problem too on 2 Venue Pro's that I have! I tried changing my router encryption settings to WEP, WPA, WPA2, Mixed(does all 3), and none of the settings worked. The only way is with no encryption. And on top of that, there is no way to touch any wi-fi settings other then just selecting the access point and giving it a password I really hope this can be resolved via an update and its not because of a bad phone!
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Do you have MAC address filtering enabled perhaps?
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No I don't have MAC filtering on my wifi network. just the normal WPA/WPA2. My wife's HD7 comes in the mail today and if she doesn't have an issue with it, I may go back to the Microsoft store here in Denver and do any exchange.
I am glad I am not the only one with issues here though. I will try calling Dell or the Microsoft store and see if they can offer any help
From reading various posts on other sites, it seems that it's definitely an issue with the DVP in general - everyone seems to be reporting that it won't connect to an secure network, only an open one. How Dell have managed to drop the ball this badly is beyond me. I've been waiting for this phone since it was announced, but with the lack of info, seeming lack of SD card slot now, and wifi that doesn't work to boot, I'm seriously thinking I'll just go for a different phone!
dacunto said:
No I don't have MAC filtering on my wifi network. just the normal WPA/WPA2. My wife's HD7 comes in the mail today and if she doesn't have an issue with it, I may go back to the Microsoft store here in Denver and do any exchange.
I am glad I am not the only one with issues here though. I will try calling Dell or the Microsoft store and see if they can offer any help
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I'd be very surprised if the HD7 has any issues, got one for my wife at the weekend, and it took all of about a minute to get it up and running on my wireless network with WPA2 (and about 45 seconds of that was disabling mac address filtering to add it, and then re-enabling the filter!!).
rob_p said:
I'd be very surprised if the HD7 has any issues, got one for my wife at the weekend, and it took all of about a minute to get it up and running on my wireless network with WPA2 (and about 45 seconds of that was disabling mac address filtering to add it, and then re-enabling the filter!!).
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Damn, well looks like I am going to the HD7 unless I am offered a fix by Dell/Microsoft. I excused the 8GB memory because I have a larger zune and i hoped someone braver than I would take off some of the screws behind the batter cover and find a SD card slot (like the HD7). But i cant tolerate Wifi problems (cant leave my network unsecured).
Looks like I am heading to the Microsoft store after the UPS man comes with my wifes phone and doing an exchange for the HD7.
It's a real shame. Don't get me wrong, all new phones will haev teething problems, but the initial reports of the Dell really aren't good - a phone like this HAS to be spot on in terms of connectivity, that's the whole point of it. Otherwise they should call it a dumbphone.
yep and I am noticing some cracking in the speaker, like its blown or something. Shame, i really was excited for this phone
Guess they wont be ditching their blackberry's as soon as they thought if their employees cant get on their network.
If some of you do go back to the Microsoft store, please tell me how well your exchange goes. My feeling is that since there are so few Venue Pros out there it might be hard to make an exchange at this time...
I'm hoping that since this phone will get all the support it needs since it's going to be widely adopted by business users.
Hi,
ive had similair issues to this running on android in the past. The way around it for me was using one of these conversion tools like so:
corecoding.com/utilities/wep2hex.php (cant link as the forums wont allow it)
whilst thats for WEP and you said you were using WPA i assume theres a similair conversion tool of some sorts? Not saying its going to work by any means - just that my android phone needed the passphrase converting and entering in HEX in the past so may be worth researching before claiming wifi is totally broke on the dell
Carl.
carlb007 said:
Hi,
ive had similair issues to this running on android in the past. The way around it for me was using one of these conversion tools like so:
corecoding.com/utilities/wep2hex.php (cant link as the forums wont allow it)
whilst thats for WEP and you said you were using WPA i assume theres a similair conversion tool of some sorts? Not saying its going to work by any means - just that my android phone needed the passphrase converting and entering in HEX in the past so may be worth researching before claiming wifi is totally broke on the dell
Carl.
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Thanks for the help, but the fact remains, we (I) shouldn't have to do any of these steps to fix the wifi. It should "just work"
Dell not helpful
I called Dell customer service and they couldnt help my at all. I had to explain to three difference reps what a Venue Pro was
Next step is the Microsoft store. I will update when I done there.........cant go till UPS comes to my house though.
Shame to hear about the lack of Dell support. Maybe they'll know a bit more when they starting selling it themselves.
nope, no mac filtering. it should be pretty clean.
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Hopefully it's just a bad batch. Wifi and a crackly speaker would mean a no go for me as well. I really dont want the HD7, though.
I was planning to just use WP7 as a toy and stuff (until it matured more) at home and work with Wifi only. So it's possible I could just buy a Focus for that.

Holy Cow! What is the deal?

I am on TMobile not AT&T, I started with iphone 2g(jailbroken), upgraded to 3gs(jailbroken), got tired of my iphone and decided to get this mytouch 4g, mainly to have better speed and performance. I am not an apple fan boy, and really dont care for apple products. Have been hearing so much great stuff about Android, that I was really excited to switch.
Now that I have this mytouch 4g, and made the switch, I am really shaking my head. When I plug in my iphone it automatically sync's up with Outlook 2010, zero effort is required on my part, contacts, calendars, tasks, etc done. I have now spent 1hr on phone with TMobile tech support & 2 hours on phone with HTC tech support. So far zero sync up happening with mytouch period. If I turn the phone to disk drive I can see it on my pc no problems, but USB tethering, no way. I mean how in the world do manufactures expect people to put up with this kind of crap. If apple can figure out how to make this sync up happen with zero effort, surely some other manufacture can make this happen without wanting to slit your wrists.
After spending the 2 hrs with HTC tech support, the excusses for their incompetence is incredible. Well we just havn't gotten our software quite right yet, well then why sell the phone. Outlook is what every business in the planet uses(well the majority at least) and you can't figure out how to make your phone work seamlessly with it, are you kidding me? Well you need to create a gmail account, why, I already have too many work email accounts that works fine why do i need another? So now i created a gmail account, exported all my stuff from Outlook to gmail via CSV, I am still saying WTF. So now everyday when I want to sync up this mytouch, i have to export everything from Outlook to CSV, then import it into gmail just to get my latest info into the phone, please tell me I am missing something here.
Now I am reading that the wifi tethering is going to be an additional cost? Someone help me here. Is there a work around for this? On my iphone, I just hit MyWi and I can create a hot spot that my laptop works awesome with and no additional cost, nothing to plug in, just surf away. Someone please tell me I am missing something here with this mytouch.
I really want to like this phone and keep it, but damn why is everything such a PIA? Phone feels good in my hand, don't love the interface, but can live with it, have not played with the apps yet, but I assume most everything that I have on my iphone I can find in Android. I am on the fence here, and need some help and insight from the Jedi Master here. I am not trying to be a hater on this phone, I just don't understand why so much grief, hell my old Moto Razor back in the day sync'd up better than this thing does.
What is the deal with this mini usb plug as well, have to wonder how long that connection will work for, its certainly not a smooth plug in deal.
Help is very much appreciated at this point.
DegoRed said:
What is the deal with this mini usb plug as well, have to wonder how long that connection will work for, its certainly not a smooth plug in deal.
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Can't help you with the other stuff. But that plug is a micro-usb that almost every single phone made today, minus the iphone of course is going to. Its a standard that has proven great with blackberries for a couple of years now. So instead of searching for that iphone cable, you can use the same cable everyone else has. Along with most 2.5" harddrive cases, etc.
Excuse Me but did you expect the android OS to be a magical extension of your brain and not have to bother reading any manuals or instructions. I would bet that if you took time to read rather than just posting hate syncing would be no problem.
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When I plug in my iphone it automatically sync's up with Outlook 2010, zero effort is required on my part, contacts, calendars, tasks, etc done.
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Check out the program companionlink. This is what I use and it automatically syncs all my calendar/tasks/contacts etc from Outlook to my gmail account and then automatically syncs to my phone. It syncs both ways, when I make a change on my phone, it syncs and updates Out look on my PC. Will this work for you? Don't know but it's the best solution I have found for me.
As far as wireless tether, you will have to root (jailbreak) your phone if you want the wireless hotspot feature without paying tmobiles monthly fee. It's simple to do though.
Just curious, have you tried this? https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync
Someone get this guy a tissue
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\If I turn the phone to disk drive I can see it on my pc no problems, but USB tethering, no way.
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Have you installed the driver here? http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/downloads/
On my first myTouch, I hooked it up to my computer and it recognized it straight away without any issues.
On my second, I had to install this before it recognized it then I was fine.
Picasosz-I guess you missed the part about spending 2 hrs on phone with HTC tech support? So far I have reinstalled the drivers 4 times now, reinstalled the HTC Sync software twice. I have rebooted my comp so many times, I am scared it may not start the next time I do it. Really, you think the manual would tell me more than the tech support guy at HTC?
According to the Tech Support guy at HTC, the best Sync software to use for this phone is 2.0.40 that you need to download from the HTC EVO, because they have no software for the HTC myTouch 4g as of yet.
What I do expect is that I plug my damn phone it and it automatically with connect to my PC. Hell my printer does, scanner does, portable HD does, flash drive does, iphone does, and my 4 year old Moto Razor did. Is it really to much to ask that a brand new, latest and greatest, phone to plug in and Sync up? I think not. I am sincerely asking for some help, hoping someone has had similar issues and can provide me some insight. Your comment does nothing to help, so thanks for nothing.
dinan, that app looks great, I will try that, hopefully that works, TYVM.
Some years back, Microsoft invested millions of dollars into Apple's development for the purpose of integration of MS software into Apple products. Google, on the other hand, would rather you keep using their "cloud" based stuff. If you really need seamless Outlook integration, get a WP7 phone. You should have done more research before committing to a Google OS.
Google apps sync is $50/year & companionlink is $40.
I guess I am just screwed.
Thanks Xfoo for your input, I just never guessed that this was the case, assumed everything was pretty integrated these days.
Going to hold out for a week before I send this phone back, I think TMob has a 14 day return period, maybe HTC will pull a rabbit out of their hat by then and come up with some new software. The Tech Support guy kind of indicated that might happen due to the amount of people complaining.
Guess I never knew how good I had it with my year old iphone.
Who uses outlook?
A lot of corporations and businesses still sadly use it.
And If you need perfect outlook sync go with windows mobile. Android isn't meant to be synced to outlook or anything like that. The only thing you are suppose to need to plug your phone into a computer for is to put stuff on the sd card or to charge it. Googled created android with the cloud in mind and for me and a lot of other people that works great. For people that need a phone for syncing to outlook get windows mobile plain and simple. I love the fact that I can go on any android phone type in my google account name and everything is synced, I have all my emails, my contacts, events, and app data. Android is a smartphone but it really isn't meant to be something that you should depend on for outlook. There are solutions out there but most of them are equal to you having to pay.
Outlook and the rest of the PCs with their local storage are increasingly going the way of the dinosaur. Everything will be in the cloud shortly. Google's impending OS is one big glorified web browser. I'm sure it will be very successful as are most other Google's products. Server admins will need to find a way for their colleagues to access the company's servers via secure web protocols.
So, to the OP, in order for this transformation to take place, there will be pains for those who rely on being tethered to a PC, but a more natural company to take the reigns of this business than Google I do not know. Google is almost entirely a web services company. So, naturally their mobile OS is going to be tied heavily to the cloud and not to native software running on a PC. While it is very much possible to sync and tether via 3rd party apps, many will find that what ships with their phone suffices to bring everything they need to the table in today's mobile environment.
Have you ever thought to sync all the data from outlook to a gmail account and use the gmail on your myTouch?
Exchange and all my other email took me 1.7 minutes of toilet time to setup.
If you like things to be already done for you... get the iPhone, because that's what it's about. You get things easy and limited. Dumbed down for the average consumer.
If you enjoy freedom, choice and a little DIY satisfaction... go Android.
Exchange was really simple to set up. It took me less than 5 minutes to set it up. Frankly it took longer to type in my strong password than it did for it to connect to the server.
Not sure what your issue is. I have never needed to plug my android phones into a computer, that is the beauty of android.
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Why do you want outlook to sync when you plug it into your computer? This sounds backwards and silly to me. Just have it sync OTA. Al Gore didn't invent the internet so that you could post on forums whining about how you're the only person in the western hemisphere who has never seen a micro-usb cable before. He invented it so that you wouldn't have to use the cable at all.
So what I'm saying is either log into your exchange account with the Mail app and let it auto-sync the calendar. Or shell out for touchdown, which is a little more full featured.
DegoRed said:
Google apps sync is $50/year & companionlink is $40.
I guess I am just screwed.
Thanks Xfoo for your input, I just never guessed that this was the case, assumed everything was pretty integrated these days.
Going to hold out for a week before I send this phone back, I think TMob has a 14 day return period, maybe HTC will pull a rabbit out of their hat by then and come up with some new software. The Tech Support guy kind of indicated that might happen due to the amount of people complaining.
Guess I never knew how good I had it with my year old iphone.
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Why would you want to do something that requires effort. Use Gmail, Yahoo mail, Exchange activesync, POP3, IMAP or any of the other wireless syncing services built into the phone.

[Q] Exchange ActiveSync policy wiping Fascinates randomly

I am an Exchange 2003 admin at a company with over 500 devices using ActiveSync across multiple platforms and revisions.
We enabled ActiveSync policies this week, forcing a 4 character password down to the device, with the setting "wipe after x failed password attempts" disabled.
Within 48 hours, 3 users have reported their Samsung Fascinates (and one US Cellular Samsung Mesmerize - which appears to be the same CDMA Galaxy S variant) have randomly reverted to stock. The user was not doing anything in particular at the time, nor did they enter their PIN incorrectly.
Does anyone know if Verizon has acknowledged this issue, or plans to provide a fix? It feels wrong having to ask these users to go buy Touchdown, when every other Android phone works out of the box.
My guess would be that it's an issue with 2.1 not really the fact that it's a galaxy s.
2.2 has better support for exchange AS. Depending on the trust you can place on the user I'd suggest creating a new policy for them that doesn't require the pin but request that they use the pin, until the Galaxy S gets froyo.
I'll do a nandroid backup on my phone and enable the policy for my phone and see if it happens to me, I'm not running the stock kernel though so it could be different for me.
Unfortunately we can't do per-device polices with exchange 2003 without some trickery on a users extended AD attributes. And, since there's no way to identify Fascinate users, they report their AS user agent as 'android', so it's difficult to be proactive until they call in with the problem.
I don't think it's related to all galaxy s variants, plenty of Epic and TMobile Galaxy users are fine, but the US Cellular variant appears to be a direct copy of the Fascinate, also on 2.1update1, and exhibits the same symptoms.
Users are lying. They fat fingered the password or the screen came on in their pocket. I work IT in a company that has about 5k android devices and about 20k of iphone bb and windows phones. The exchange admin is a android enthusiast and we talk often, when they started enforcing wipe policy they were swamped by calls about devices wiping themselves but after users got used to entering the passcode the calls pretty much stopped.
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Except we don't set that as part of the policy, as stated in the OP. I can mess up my PIN an unlimited amount of times with no ill effect.
There are threads about this on androidforums as well as the vzw forum, but I can't link with my low post count. I just wanted to come to the place where I knew there was the most knowledge with this issue.
Hmm, I have not specifically tested this, so I don't know if Samsung added this functionality or not, but the stock mail client for Android 2.1, to the best of my knowledge, does not support PIN code passwords. That functionality was added into Froyo by Google. I suppose it's entirely possible that the mail client on the Fascinate is buggy and causing this issue.
I know what you mean about having to tell them to pay for a mail app, but I think they'll be happy about it after the fact, after seeing how much better Touchdown really is. The stock mail client is so bare-bones, it's honestly quite ridiculous. Google really needs to get their act in gear and code a decent, full-featured mail client, because right now the iPhone beats Android at Exchange syncing, even though it also can't hold a candle to Touchdown.

[Q] Gingerbread update issues

Forgive me here, as I am just the family techie out in college communicating for my dad with some issues:
My dad, who is technologically illiterate, is having some issues with his Pro. So some background first... He was forced out of his like 4+ year old blackberry curve because his office's enterprise server was no longer supporting blackberrys (it was costing them more money). So he was forced into a Droid, where he got the Pro. He was having some issues with the enterprise server syncing with the phone, so I downloaded Road Sync for him and got that working perfectly. He has had no problems since.
From what I understand, in the last day or two he upgraded his phone from Fro-Yo to Gingerbread. I would see only advantages of that, right? Apparently, Road Sync is no longer syncing, he lost his calendar (which syncs from the enterprise server via road sync), and he has lost some contacts numbers (the field for the specific numbers isnt there anymore).
What the hell went wrong? Being a plane trip away makes it difficult for me to fix the problem myself, so I figure that some of you with the phone in front of you can help out.

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