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Better than the mytouch 4g?

Just wondering besides the screen and gingerbread what makes this phone better than the mytouch. Just curious as to why so many people want this phone when the mytouch is better in almost evey way. Please no flaming this is a real question as to why people would want this phone instead of a ohone that's already out that's equal if not better.
Sent from my icey cold glacier 4g freezing every phone in its path.

Pure Google.
I want my updates in a timely manner, not when tmo/htc/samsung/moto/bob from down the street want to give them out.

sold my i9000 to buy this phone because of pure android! in my opinion hardware doesn't mean anything when your software is bad like it was on my i9000. google will always aim for a good running android on their phones!

jriv said:
Just wondering besides the screen and gingerbread what makes this phone better than the mytouch. Just curious as to why so many people want this phone when the mytouch is better in almost evey way. Please no flaming this is a real question as to why people would want this phone instead of a ohone that's already out that's equal if not better.
Sent from my icey cold glacier 4g freezing every phone in its path.
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- Pure Google (stock android)
- All soft keys ( I hate the mytouch keys)
- Google's actual developer phone
- Nexus sounds better than MyTouch

Direct updates and fast updates.
No need to root it to remove unnecessary softwares since it comes with none.
More UMTS bands supported, almost it will work on 3G in the globe, forget about ATT but it supports 2100 and 900. This is a personal reason since I won't use it in the US.
MT4g keys collected so much dust in just few days of using, I think soft keys are more durable when you take this into account.

As others said, it comes down to vanilla Android - my nexus one was one of my favorite phones because it was pure android. When I got the evo and vibrant I kinda twitched when I wasn't on vanilla android (it really is a very different experience).
Not to mention, the vibrant still being on 2.1 is a JOKE (altho I've flashed froyo) - so with the nexus S, having the latest updates and essentially being Google's "test device" is excellent.

Because the MyTouch 4g has a worse processor, a worse GPU, a worse display, a worse touch screen, and well, is ugly. Oh and the Nexus S is AOSP.
Note: "ugly" = personal preference no offense intended

It's rather difficult for me to say.
I have MT4 and the screen is good, plus wifi calling is very handy when I need it.
But NS should have larger and better screen.

Anderdroid said:
Because the MyTouch 4g has a worse processor, a worse GPU, a worse display, a worse touch screen, and well, is ugly. Oh and the Nexus S is AOSP.
Note: "ugly" = personal preference no offense intended
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I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.

dhiral.v said:
I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.
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Chill out guys... It's phones, phones, phones, phones. No need to get all heated.

Echoing what others have said, but its true. A lot comes down to getting timely updates direct from Google.
I had a Hero before my Nexus One and although the phone was solid, the lack of updates made it a very disappointing experience. Won't do ' non-vanilla' again until manufacturers/carriers prove they will update their phones.

I have a MT4G and a Vibrant and hopefully will pick up a Nexus S tomorrow morning. The MT4g is a very nice solid phone. Having said that I must say I do prefer the Vibrant. I really cannot put my finger on why I like the Vibrant so much better.. I fooled around with the MT4G and let the remorse period end and now I have the phone. I am going to sell the MT4G. Once again though it is a very very good phone. One of the best all around phones I have ever had. Just cannot forge a connection with it.

myTouch 4G is THE phone!! if u have 4G in ur area. Brilliant specs. But I agree its ugliest looking phone ever. But as long u cover it its fine and excellent phone. I wouldnt go for Nexus S if I already had myTouch 4G. Dual Cores are round the corner. But I m fine with the specs of the Nexus S. No 4g here anyways.
PS: Nexus S is gonna be my first native android phone. Woohoo
But I have toyed around most of the android phones of either friends and family

tenbeau said:
I have a MT4G and a Vibrant and hopefully will pick up a Nexus S tomorrow morning. The MT4g is a very nice solid phone. Having said that I must say I do prefer the Vibrant. I really cannot put my finger on why I like the Vibrant so much better.. I fooled around with the MT4G and let the remorse period end and now I have the phone. I am going to sell the MT4G. Once again though it is a very very good phone. One of the best all around phones I have ever had. Just cannot forge a connection with it.
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dude, I had the same exact experience.

Ok, still tossing between the two devices. Biggest reason is the $300 price difference. Both have nice features.
Nexus S:
Love that it will get updates in a timely manner
slimmer, sexier
better screen
No 3g so with this and better screen hopefully better battery life
Larger screen
MT4G:
4G
More hardware buttons
Micro SD card slot, (options)
T-Mobile insurance to cover any time of damage
I've only used the Nexus S for a day so I'm still going to compare and see if its worth paying more for it. Any other key reasons I'm missing? Just trying to get as much information/feedback before making a decision.

If you want the best and latest, nexus S is the one...but to me also It doesn't give out anything significant over MT4G..Yes faster updates is definitely one plus of Nexus...but if you're on XDA, you most probably be into custom ROMs, and mostly within a week new updates come to popular phones..so that's not such a big thing...same goes for pure google exp...if you don't want custom UI...there are ROMs available to do that..
On the other hand MT4G gives you 4G, WiFi calling and looks are subjective..to me MT4G don't look bad though not as sexy as nexus S though...but as above poster said its $300 more...its not definately worth that IMO

Mafioso said:
If you want the best and latest, nexus S is the one...but to me also It doesn't give out anything significant over MT4G..Yes faster updates is definitely one plus of Nexus...but if you're on XDA, you most probably be into custom ROMs, and mostly within a week new updates come to popular phones..so that's not such a big thing...same goes for pure google exp...if you don't want custom UI...there are ROMs available to do that..
On the other hand MT4G gives you 4G, WiFi calling and looks are subjective..to me MT4G don't look bad though not as sexy as nexus S though...but as above poster said its $300 more...its not definately worth that IMO
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How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.

raeef said:
How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.
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He probably meant off CL or something... Im seeing some in my area for about 275-325

dhiral.v said:
I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.
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Arrogant Samsung fanboy? Everything I said in my reply was true the only thing the MyTouch 4g has on this is removeable storage and HSPA+. Which are 'necessities' at best. If you absolutely need removeable storage or more than 16gb than the Nexus S isn't for you. Other than that, I get the feeling that HTC fanboys down talk Samsung wrongly and uneducatedly so I like to shove it in their faces .
I guess I am an arrogant Samsung fanboy. Or at least, Galaxy S> fanboy. Anything prior to Galaxy S I won't say anything about. The Galaxy S line is 2nd best only to the Nexus S

raeef said:
How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.
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Yes even on eBay you get the slightly used ones for ~ $300-350 in bidding..

I almost wish I looked at a N1 before picking up a NS

So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.

I'm sure you can understand why so many of us chose not to upgrade, eh? The Nexus S is a nice handset if you didn't already have a Nexus One...it just isn't a big enough step up for us though.
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biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered

Nexus s is great. You get a better touch sensor and a faster gpu.

I played with one in store. I have my N1 running the latest CM7 gingerbread. So I setup my desktop matching the NS.
The screen is a Tad nicer but overall I didn't see much to warrant my dough.
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deenn said:
biggest suck up thread ever
though, I personally, am very flattered
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haha no sucking up here, just gotta pay respect when its due; I mean lets be honest, the Nexus S IS better than the Nexus One, even if the specs are slightly better, with its slightly better screen, higher quality screen, front facing camera, etc. etc. the only thing I feel the S falls short on is the build quality, its nothing bad but its like with the iPhone, I liked the build quality better on the first gen iphone then the 3G or 3GS.
Unless Palm announces something crazy (Palm fanboy here) I'll probably just stick with the Nexus S, I also have a Droid Pro so I think I should be set for a while.

MO3iusONE said:
So I bought a Nexus S yesterday, earlier today I noticed a co worker of mine had a Nexus 1, I know of them, I mean I've seen them but I never actually held one; I was blown away by the build quality and the trackball is awesome as well. After playing with his phone I started hitting up craigslist to see if I could find one and was seriously considering returning my Nexus S.
I think I'm gonna keep the Nexus S after all but god damn, I'm just shocked that the Nexus S is the Nexus S, I mean, you would think that after the Nexus 1, the phone replacing it would at least have that same style of build quality. oh well, I still like the NS non the less.
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Now you see why many of us love the nexus one so much! CPU and specs aside, the nexus one hardware, build quality, color track ball for any notification you want, materials, size and package, its unmatched even by any current phone out there today! This phone is literally a work of art.
Throw in the car dock and desk dock, it can't be beat. Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.

RogerPodacter said:
Damn I wish Google went with HTC for the next nexus phone.
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I know it just blows my mind that th folks at Google carried around an HTC N1 for almost a year and then decided that the Nexus S made by Samsung was the way to go...it really does blow my mind every time I think about it. Who in their right mind would make that choice?? I'm still bitter about it...feel as if I was robbed out of an upgrade. Forced to make a choice of crappy build quality with better internals or stick with older internals with better build quality. I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.

Old MuckenMire said:
I'd still like to know what asshole at Google made us face that choice.
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Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?

ap3604 said:
Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!

What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
ap3604 said:
Oh cmon MM... tell us how you REALLY feel
It make sense to me at least for Google to keep its various manufacturers happy by spreading the Nexus love. I guess we will have to see who the next Nexus is made by: Motorola? LG?
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I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.

Yeah, hands up for Nexus One
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Old MuckenMire said:
I hadn't thought about it in awhile and it kinda hit me again there reading this thread.
I can understand wanting to spread the manufacturer love but Google should have told Samsung that if they wanted the Nexus "2", then they could have it, PROVIDED they built it nicer than their usual crap. Google should have kept a higher standard for the Nexus line and they let Samsung kinda cheapen it in my book.
It's one thing to spread the love and it's another to tell Samsung here are the internals we want and oh you can wrap those internals in whatever you want. I almost think us users are prouder of the N1 than Google, who seemed to give up on it like a step child when it didn't sell as well as they would have liked. Hell we users BEGGED Google to advertise the damn thing....but no, they run a search ad during the Super Bowl LESS THAN A MONTH after the Nexus launched...what kind of sense did that make?? Like Google needed a search ad during the Super Bowl...everyone already uses Google search for god's sake!!!
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True that everyone already what the hell business google is about. I was too disappointed the way they advertised the n1
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I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.

This is the exact reason I'm still using my N1 - normally I upgrade as soon as the next best phone is out, but the Nexus is just perfect. The build quality is amazing compared to any samsung phones.
And seriously, I'd miss the trackball too much.
With that said, I have a Galaxy Tab - and think thats great, but I don't carry that with me every day so the cheap plastic doesnt annoy me as much

Guitago said:
I think that samsung phones build quality is in general cheap, but lets be honest, they can make phones with nice specs, and then there's those qualcomm chipsets that HTC put in the their phones, they're just awful, which kinda makes you consider buying samsung phones.
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The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.

RogerPodacter said:
The snapdragon, even first gen, is not too shabby at all, and it beats the hummingbird in a lot of CPU tests. The advantage of hummingbird is the graphics. In fact, I think the nexus one was better at scrolling smoothly over the nexus s in most cases because graphics was not yet enabled on the S. CPU vs CPU the snapdragon seemed to out perform it imo.
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Well, to be honest I never used a the nexus s, here in Brasil is too expensive to get new devices, I used only the galaxy s, which I think is basically the same device, only in a different housing, and it was pretty fast. I used a Nexus One too, but obviously the roms were different (even though both were using cooked froyo roms) and I know experience may vary, but the galaxy s seemed much faster.

canadariot2312 said:
What is up with Samsung and plastic? I know that they have one phone made of metal, but plastic gets so fingerprint prone.
I hope it is by Motorola, providing that they don't have a locked bootloader. They actually put dual noise canceling mics on their phone (Droid X), which is probably one of the most important thing on a smartphone.
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!

+1 for dual mics
The call sound quality on the N1 and the Droid X are what attracted me to those two phones. In my opinion, it's a MUST HAVE feature and the single biggest reason I haven't bought a Nexus S.

k_myk said:
I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you about that MotoNexus crap. Only US of A can be happy with Motorola customer service and update policy... Ever heared of the Milestone? Yeah, Droid with GSM... Today it can only run stock 2.1 krenel because of MotoPLCY and locked bootloader. Rest of the world is so fcuking tired of hearing their craptalk that they would never buy a Moto device again! Well, Nexus phones are not ONLY American phones.
Also I actually don't like the idea of releasing Nexus devices by different manufacturer each year.. It just doesn't make sense for me. Google is a company not different from others, they count each dollar when it comes to spending money. N1 was a good compromise between cheap and technically good, htc made it that way as they did with desire. So... What's the point? Even if Mofofaila would bulid another Nexus (NX? They seem to like that letter) what would be nest? LG? ok, and then?
P.S. If anything what i wrote is unclear, tell me. It can happen, because english is not my native langueage
EDIT: BUT I agree about those dual mics. They do make a difference for me too!
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but remember, if Moto is making the next nexus, google will be the one controlling the software, not moto. moto shouldn't be able to lock the bootloader in the next nexus without google saying yes.

Just got my G2

Moved over from Big Red to Tmo to save some moola.
Loving my G2 thus far. Allready perm rooted and on CM6. Also dropped in my seidio 1750 from my Inc. I will enjoy this phone till I pick up a Nexus One.
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Why go to a Nexus One if you already have a G2?

martonikaj said:
Why go to a Nexus One if you already have a G2?
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Dunno. Just always wanted one. I may get one a stick with the G2. Who knows.

Are you trolling us?
G2 beats Nexus one............
its like going back to a Ford after driving a BMW

TrueYears said:
Are you trolling us?
G2 beats Nexus one............
its like downgrading from a POS to a Ford
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I fixed it for you

paperecho said:
Dunno. Just always wanted one. I may get one a stick with the G2. Who knows.
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Just saying that I wouldn't really strive to have a Nexus One if I already had a G2. The G2 hardware is pretty amazing and the Nexus One is sadly getting old at this point...

Yeah, that's the dumbest thing i ever heard. Have fun with that out of date nexus. Lol
G2 with ExtraHotSauce v0.2!!

Nexus has great build quality, is a great weight, slim, has a coloured trackball and a really good screen. It's great if you don't like hardware keyboards, would love to own a monumental piece of Android/HTC history.

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Nexus has great build quality, is a great weight, slim, has a coloured trackball and a really good screen. It's great if you don't like hardware keyboards, would love to own a monumental piece of Android/HTC history.
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Absolutely all very true points. But it isnt nearly worth your money as a daily primary device.

...thats a pretty expensive hobby of collecting phones lol

No no. I'm not trolling. I love this g2 thus far. Its a great device. But I do want to pick up a N1 for a trial or two. If anything ill make it a dedicated gps.
All the N1 hate makes me sad. And I DO NOT like the Nexus S at all.
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paperecho said:
No no. I'm not trolling. I love this g2 thus far. Its a great device. But I do want to pick up a N1 for a trial or two. If anything ill make it a dedicated gps.
All the N1 hate makes me sad. And I DO NOT like the Nexus S at all.
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I don't think anyone hates the N1, it's just not "new" anymore and therefore not as cool as the "newer" G2... you know the drill with us techies.
I don't think you'd be unhappy going from the G2 to the N1. I personally can't understand how you'd be able to like the N1 and not like the NS though... they're basically the exact same device minus the manufacturer's name. (putting my flame retardant suit on)

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I don't think anyone hates the N1, it's just not "new" anymore and therefore not as cool as the "newer" G2... you know the drill with us techies.
I don't think you'd be unhappy going from the G2 to the N1. I personally can't understand how you'd be able to like the N1 and not like the NS though... they're basically the exact same device minus the manufacturer's name. (putting my flame retardant suit on)
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No flame here. I completely agree. I love the N1 too, but it is a year old now, the specs just aren't good considering what you can get now.
I agree on the Nexus S point as well. NS is the next iteration past the N1, and it really is a solid device.

My issue with the NS is more of an anti samsung thing. With them dropping the ball on the galaxy froyo updates I just can't back em. Plus I the N1 was sexier. Imo.
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I also think about picking up an N1 to fiddle with. Love my G2, but I'm afraid I've become addicted to seeing what our brilliant devs can cook up. So, the idea of having both a daily driver and a toy is attractive.
Regarding the NS: I'm wary of Samsung. I'm sure it's a solid device and, having been tapped my Google to be the next Nexus, will continue to reflect the bleeding edge of Android for at least another year. However, Samsung's record of slow updates and less than solid build quality puts me firmly in the HTC fanboy house.
Not going to lie. The new 10.1 tablet is tempting even with Samsung written on it.
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New Nexus? What do you make of this?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...r-google-nexus-4g-may-win-carriers-hearts.ars
Not sure what to think about this. Seems quick?

no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS

Nexus One was released in January 2010, Nexus S was released in December 2010, so this seems in line with Nexus release dates, Holiday Season every year.

Says no front "buttons". I wonder how the software buttons is going to work.

Whose making it??
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Whose making it??
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Read a rumor that LG might make it, because they have experience with that form factor. I guess any company could adopt to it easily though.

zephiK said:
no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.

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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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+1 they produce the best screens. I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung.
Who else is there?
LG: lol, we give stock and dont provide gingerbread updates (been almost a whole month). "stock" on carriers aren't really stock. 3rd choice.
Motorola: motoblur + bloat + locked bootloader
HTC: this is my second choice next to Samsung. even though they have said they're commited to not lock the bootloader anymore. i find it shady that they would even plan on locking the bootloader in the first place.
SE: not really producing any highend phones
Samsung: doesn't lock bootloader, easy to root etc. great hardware
my only complaint with Samsung are the plastic back covers, but I can deal with it after putting a case on.
people probably hate it because of TouchWiz. but if you don't use TouchWiz launcher (which many of us dont since we use ADW / LP) it's a great skin. it offers many features that are pretty nice.

The plastic battery cover angers me. It always creaks can't they make 2 version's. They can do it look at captivate now my screen creaks if I press the top part of screen it moves fml if they wanna compete with iPhone they need to step this up I really don't like HTC IMO there phones are garbage but damn least they put metal
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Hopefully HTC. Great build, software and hardware. Never had issues with them, now Samsung on the other hand.... The enjoy good thing about them is the screens .
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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fraspas said:
Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Because Google simply provides the software. Not the hardware. If they go towards the direction of making the phone.. well, that doesn't fit their profile. They would be purchasing things from Samsung Electronics anyway and the profit stream would be way less.
And it doesn't matter if the company has already done the Nexus phone. Everything isn't built off the idea that it's fair.
Oh hey guys, Samsung & HTC already did the Nexus phones. Let's give Huawei a chance to make the next nexus phone!

zephiK said:
I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung. Who else is there? LG: lol
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FWIW, my ranking would be:
HTC: decent hardware that works. I can't abide Sense nor their tendency to lock down stuff, but on a Nexus that wouldn't matter. The safe choice.
LG: their Android phones are actually really nice, even if the product lineup is a bit strange. Specced by Google, built by LG? Oh yes, please.
Huawei (or some other less well-known brand): A Nexus could give the brand a boost, thus boosting competition in the long run.
Samsung: They always manage to have great spec sheets, but also there's always something that doesn't work right or at all. See GPS on the SGS1, sound on the SGS2, GPS on the Nexus S and compass/accelerometer on basically any Samsung-built Android phone. Also they have obvious quality control issues.
S-E: Well, why not? I don't think they'd even be interested, though, control freaks that they are.
Motorola: No, thank you.

No not LG. I have owned a couple of LG phones and never ever have i been satisfied. I just dont associate LG with anything good.

I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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mylexon20s said:
I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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zephiK said:
Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.

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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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No, not HTC again. My Nexus One already suffered from the dust issues and dead power button that I decided to just sell it after getting a replacement. HTC may make solid feeling builds but their phones almost always have build quality issues (the Sensation already has a dust issue).

If Samsung doesn't make it I will really miss the samoled screen. Unless LG decides to throw a retina busting display on it. makes you wonder what they mean by monster display, could just mean a 4.5 inch screen or a resolution that is unmatched. After all they are the ones that make the retina display.
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tmcquake said:
If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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I'm not worried about "signed bootloaders." HTC has already commited themselves to unlocking the bootloaders on future phones and current phones that feature them. I've been on Android since the G1, so I'm aware of all this.
Again.. skins, I'm aware of this. I was speaking in general because there has been forum threads around the NS forum where people are headed towards "normal" phones such as Galaxy S2 & Sensation.
The build quality of Samsung phones are just as fine. The only complaint is the plastic backing. Other than that, its build is extraordinary. I personally just want Samsung to make it because the displays they offer are exclusive to their company and its just breathtaking. It would also feature Super AMOLED Plus or even their upcoming display thats even better than SAMOLED+. But I doubt it'd be in the Nexus 3 unless it can be ready by then,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/11/samsung-to-finally-roll-out-flexible-amoled-displays-for-public/

Nexus S T-Mobile

Does anyone know if there is still any place that sells brand new GT-I9020T Nexus S phones?

Best buy
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and will that work on T-Mobile 3G? I see that it is listed as an AT&T phone

You have to pick the Tmobile one. They sell all 3.
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are you sure? I don't see the T-Mobile Nexus S listed on their site...

Try a Store!

traded an htc sensation for mine. no regrets

having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...

the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps

wait seriously? how do you know?

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having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
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4.65" is including the part for "buttons" since they will be on the screen as there aren't any physical keys. so technically it isn't 4.65"
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/devices/doing-the-math-how-the-next-nexus-measures-up/

but is it really not coming out anytime soon?

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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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Depends on your definition of "soon".
As of right now it looks like it will be released around November.

If you want a cynic's opinion, here it is: The Nexus S was old-hat before it was even released. The only benefit was the ease of unlocking and getting updates first, which sounds awesome until you realize that the initial versions of GB were massively buggy. I'd expect the same for ICS. Add to that the fact that HTC is making it so you can easily unlock all of their phones and the list of reasons why I would want one gets much, much shorter. Non-existent, in fact. I'm actively looking for a way to get my hands on a device with hardware that wasn't dated before the first model rolled off the line or wasn't succeeded months later by a phone with a key feature the original was lacking for a more than sub-par carrier. I've said it before, but to save you the trouble of reading it somewhere else, I should have learned my lesson about buying Samsung phones after the Epic 4g debacle but I didn't. I have now and I'll advise anyone against buying their POS devices.

what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?

AllGamer said:
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
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I'd say before the end of the year is "soon"

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what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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I think he was confused (as was I) by the fact that your conclusion didn't really follow from your argument. You complained about the phone being outdated and you complained about gingerbread being buggy and then you ended by concluding that you shouldn't have bought a Samsung phone. But everything you complained of was Google's doing.
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I just picked up an i9020t Nexus S knowing full well that the Nexus Prime is coming. You know why?
Refined Galaxy S hardware
Comfortable rounded edges (looking at you, captivate)
Great ROM support, with ICS on the horizon
Respectable battery life
Pretty freaking fast
So yeah, the phone's hardware is dated. However, the Nexus S is my favorite size and shape, and OC'ed to 1.2ghz with some speed hacks from different places, I can't even imagine wanting for more speed. Now, this is all my opinion, but you can land a Nexus S now for a reasonable price. So get one and have several happy months of hacking!

eBay
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