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Hi all
Everyone wants to root his device, but why exactly are YOU rooting it? What is your motivation, from which feature do you gain something?
Please answer with specific apps which you are using and which do need root.
Thanks
Dominik
I had a Toshiba Folio 100 before (it was my first android device)... but because of very bad toshiba software I had to put a custom (rooted) rom on it two hours after I got the device at home...
In this case I used the root to tweak everything to make it work better and better, but also for Titanium backup...
When I got my second android device (the galaxy apollo), I rooted it, only for titanium backup, just to port some appdata from my folio to my apollo... I don't really need to tweak this device...
Now I have my transformer, I don't feel like rooting it... I have setup everything properly... The only reason why I would root it now is to install (again) titanium backup, and restore my Angry Birds data (Does any-one know a non-root way to do this )... I'm not gonna root this great device for that...
I rooted mine because I can, no kidding. Then I was able to take control of my tf. I deleted stuff from my system/data that was bloat using root explorer. Sometimes you need no reason to root but to be able to say...yea it's rooted..
Main reason I rooted my Android phone was to get rid of the stock HTC Sense, which IMO was quite bloated and slow. I put a custom ROM on and have a lot more free space, a HUGE improvement on battery life (I'm talking about a day extra) from the custom ROM and optimised kernel.
In the case of my Transformer, it is mainly rooted to take advantage of a custom kernel. With a custom, and appropriately optimised, kernel you can theoretically (and most importantly, in practice) improve the performance and/or battery life of your Android device through overclocking or underclocking respectively. I won't get into the nerdy details of the Linux kernel, but in a nutshell that's what is possible (among many other things) with an optimised kernel.
Apart from kernels I also rooted my device with the hope of Google eventually releasing the Honeycomb (Android 3.x) source code, so we can start to see some actual creativity from the more skilled members of the XDA community. I'm talking about custom ROMs that can totally change the way you experience your Android device. If you want an example, look up MIUI ROM and then compare it to stock Android ROM... of course this is with Android 2.x but this sort of variation and creativity is what we should look forward to (assuming Google eventually open up and stop being shy about their source).
Also not to mention the efforts of the people getting Ubuntu to work on the TF. This means you are able to run a full-blown desktop OS on your tablet alongside Android if you ever want to do more than what Android limits you to.
But really, you own the device so you choose what you want to do with it. If this type of stuff seems a bit over your head or you're pretty happy with a stock standard Honeycomb experience, then you never have to worry about rooting. But I say, get the most out of your device and root it
Any other questions, or if you don't understand some of the terms I used, ask me and I'll make sure to explain it better
The main reason for me is it lets you view and write to the /system and /data partitions. You can then install crap apps you don't like cluttering up your menus, and also transfer APKs you do like to other devices.
Also rooting and installing your own kernel is AFAIK the only way to allow ad-hoc wifi connections with your tablet. For some people with phones whose wifi tethering is based on ad-hoc, this is very important.
I just wanted to put patched host file to makse tf run faster
Its not bloated like sense
I had planned on rootin my TF first thing after taking it home.
It's almost a month now and haven't still rooted the thing. I have not needed doing it still... I tried and then unrooted and kept stock.
Regards.
life64x said:
I rooted mine because I can, no kidding. Then I was able to take control of my tf. I deleted stuff from my system/data that was bloat using root explorer. Sometimes you need no reason to root but to be able to say...yea it's rooted..
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I second this!!! Give me freedom on my computer!!! I buy android because I don't want somebody(steve jobs/bill gates) telling me what I can and can't do!!!
Titanium Backup for game saves.
The first thing I benefit of, and when it comes to rooting is adfree, and then of course titaniumbackup, rootexplorer.
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On phones, I root because I want to reove all the garbage that is installed there and to have Titanium backup and Cyanogen ROMS.
I have one TF that is rooted and running Prime and another that is stock and, so far, unrooted. For the TF, root is not as imperative as for the phones...
Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
wd4oay said:
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?
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deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.
deeselcyde said:
What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.
Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.
deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.
Hello all, new Galaxy user here.....I came from 3D HTC. ok my questions...
1. I am already rooted, what back up , ROM and other stuff do I need to use. There are so many links to so many choices.
2. Which are the easiest to use? I'm not good with complicated options.
kinextions said:
Hello all, new Galaxy user here.....I came from 3D HTC. ok my questions...
1. I am already rooted, what back up , ROM and other stuff do I need to use. There are so many links to so many choices.
2. Which are the easiest to use? I'm not good with complicated options.
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First off, you don't NEED to use anything but what you have right? If for some reason you are not happy with what your phone comes with than it is all personal preference. I use TWRP for custom recovery/backups and is very easy to install via GooManager app. No flashing required, all touch based, and designed very friendly I think. As for roms, kernels, etc. they all pretty much install the same and will give different results. If you don't want to complicate things just stick with rooted stock unless it does not do something you need.
kinextions said:
Hello all, new Galaxy user here.....I came from 3D HTC. ok my questions...
1. I am already rooted, what back up , ROM and other stuff do I need to use. There are so many links to so many choices.
2. Which are the easiest to use? I'm not good with complicated options.
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The question to start with is, "What do you want your phone to do"?
Look at the capabilities of your phone with the stock ROM:
Are you happy with the way it works? (or can you make it work the way you want by changing the available options)? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with some application? Can you download an app that fixes this? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the UI? Try out another launcher - if that works for you, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? Can you disable that bloatware? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? If you can't disable that bloatware? If so, you need to root - and then, you can freeze or remove the bloat app
Do you just want to backup everything? If so, you may not need root to use titanium backup - see if Helium backup (by CWM) does the trick for you
Do you want to change everything about your ROM, or flash a new kernel to get better battery life, or get some feature that is not available on the stock ROM (but is available on a custom ROM)? Then, root, install custom recovery (like twrp or CWM), take nandroid backup, and then flash new ROM
To summarize, what do you want your phone to do?
jj14 said:
The question to start with is, "What do you want your phone to do"?
Look at the capabilities of your phone with the stock ROM:
Are you happy with the way it works? (or can you make it work the way you want by changing the available options)? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with some application? Can you download an app that fixes this? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the UI? Try out another launcher - if that works for you, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? Can you disable that bloatware? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? If you can't disable that bloatware? If so, you need to root - and then, you can freeze or remove the bloat app
Do you just want to backup everything? If so, you may not need root to use titanium backup - see if Helium backup (by CWM) does the trick for you
Do you want to change everything about your ROM, or flash a new kernel to get better battery life, or get some feature that is not available on the stock ROM (but is available on a custom ROM)? Then, root, install custom recovery (like twrp or CWM), take nandroid backup, and then flash new ROM
To summarize, what do you want your phone to do?
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I want the most current updates and best performance from my battery and signal. I also want WiFi tether for free to work.......
kinextions said:
I want the most current updates and best performance from my battery and signal. I also want WiFi tether for free to work.......
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For the moment, the stock ROM has the most current updates. (but I'm pretty sure the carriers will delay the release of the next update, so at that time, flashing a custom ROM may be the way to go)
WiFi Tether - you don't necessarily have to flash a custom ROM just for that - you can get that just by updating the services.* files (see the hotspot mod thread in the Android development forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950)
Best signal - you will get that based on the radios that are being used, and I believe the custom ROMs use the radios from Sprint as well.
Best battery - for that, you will need to pick a good kernel, so a custom ROM will probably be your best bet.
Hope that helps!
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For the moment, the stock ROM has the most current updates. (but I'm pretty sure the carriers will delay the release of the next update, so at that time, flashing a custom ROM may be the way to go)
WiFi Tether - you don't necessarily have to flash a custom ROM just for that - you can get that just by updating the services.* files (see the hotspot mod thread in the Android development forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950)
Best signal - you will get that based on the radios that are being used, and I believe the custom ROMs use the radios from Sprint as well.
Best battery - for that, you will need to pick a good kernel, so a custom ROM will probably be your best bet.
Hope that helps!
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Thank you for everything.....got the Hotspot working. More info than I expected. Great stuff.
kinextions said:
Thank you for everything.....got the Hotspot working. More info than I expected. Great stuff.
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Glad this info was helpful
Just remember to do a Nandroid backup before you flash any custom ROMs or make any changes to the kernel or the root folders.
Personally, I use the latest touch based version of TWRP (installed using goomanager in the play store) - but CWM works fine too.
Being able to revert back to the nandroid backup has saved my rear end more than once
A friend saw my Samsung Note 3 performance & asked if I could do anything for her Razr M.
System - 98..7.XT905.Retail.en.au
Android version - 4.1.2
I haven't rooted a Moto before so I did some reading - seems very different to Samsung methods and also seems to have far more ways to do it and also, the thing which gives me pause, a wider variety of things to go wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not afraid of risking my phone - I have bricked my S3 and my Note 3 quite a few times in searching for performance and function.
But this is someone else's phone and she gave it to me for a day!!!
So, given all she really wants is better performance, I'd appreciate any advice on what I should tackle.
Some Q's... (as in point me to threads - I can read and work things out but some pointers on where to look can save me having to read all the threads in all the forums for a phone I will probably never touch again)
1. How do I protect against bricking? i.e. what is the standard way to reflash a stock ROM if things go wrong?
2. Is there a Moto repository for stock ROMs? Sammy has sammobile.com where all new releases (and old) are available for DL - does Motorola have similar or is it just Google and hope?
3. What level do I need to go to just to give better performance? (e.g. on my Note I did a lot of debloating to improve things, but that came after root, kernel and custom recovery so I could remove system apps etc.) Do I need to unlock BL or just root and install a custom ROM?
4. At first glance there doesn't seem to be many custom variations of the stock ROM, mostly CM and AOSP types. I am not sure how different that would make her phone to use, so I am assuming I'd be better sticking with a stock-customised ROM - is that a correct assumption?
Thanks for any assistance...
Journyman16 said:
A friend saw my Samsung Note 3 performance & asked if I could do anything for her Razr M.
System - 98..7.XT905.Retail.en.au
Android version - 4.1.2
I haven't rooted a Moto before so I did some reading - seems very different to Samsung methods and also seems to have far more ways to do it and also, the thing which gives me pause, a wider variety of things to go wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not afraid of risking my phone - I have bricked my S3 and my Note 3 quite a few times in searching for performance and function.
But this is someone else's phone and she gave it to me for a day!!!
So, given all she really wants is better performance, I'd appreciate any advice on what I should tackle.
Some Q's... (as in point me to threads - I can read and work things out but some pointers on where to look can save me having to read all the threads in all the forums for a phone I will probably never touch again)
1. How do I protect against bricking? i.e. what is the standard way to reflash a stock ROM if things go wrong?
2. Is there a Moto repository for stock ROMs? Sammy has sammobile.com where all new releases (and old) are available for DL - does Motorola have similar or is it just Google and hope?
3. What level do I need to go to just to give better performance? (e.g. on my Note I did a lot of debloating to improve things, but that came after root, kernel and custom recovery so I could remove system apps etc.) Do I need to unlock BL or just root and install a custom ROM?
4. At first glance there doesn't seem to be many custom variations of the stock ROM, mostly CM and AOSP types. I am not sure how different that would make her phone to use, so I am assuming I'd be better sticking with a stock-customised ROM - is that a correct assumption?
Thanks for any assistance...
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Stock ROM repository for XT905 -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=20
You should be able to use towelroot to root it.
Can't help much further since I have XT907
Edit: You could try freezing some unneeded bloatware (I know there's A LOT of that on the stock ROM for my phone) to free up some memory improve performance and conserve battery
rahimali said:
Stock ROM repository for XT905 -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=20
You should be able to use towelroot to root it.
Can't help much further since I have XT907
Edit: You could try freezing some unneeded bloatware (I know there's A LOT of that on the stock ROM for my phone) to free up some memory improve performance and conserve battery
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Thanks for the help. I'm learning... I gave her phone back with just a few tweaks and will get it back when I am confident I can unbrick anything that might go wrong.
In the Sammy world, freezing apps requires root - same in the Moto-world?
Journyman16 said:
Thanks for the help. I'm learning... I gave her phone back with just a few tweaks and will get it back when I am confident I can unbrick anything that might go wrong.
In the Sammy world, freezing apps requires root - same in the Moto-world?
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Root will be required for freezing system apps, not for users apps. Rooting should be fairly simple (hopefully). Install, supersu from the playstore, have data/wi-fi internet connectivity, install towelroot and use that to get root.
Don't let her update it the latest update breaks root. Hopefully she is on kitkat and that is why her phone is performing poorly. Root with towel root then run motoapkakypse.apk to unlock the boot loader. Now honestly there aren't any Roms I'd call a daily driver yet with the kitkat kernel so you'll have to downgrade to the jellybean kernel and install one of the top 3 or 4 Roms... I'm still on stock I found that location services and a few wake locks were the problems and fixed them with an app called app ops
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yo yo yo devs and phone maniacs,
i have s5-900f or something similiar to that and after 2 years i am out of patience. My phone is laggy ( snapchat and camera opening like 50 billion years maybe slightly more) and i need some quick reminder what to do. I used custom rom on my S3 back in the days, well i forgot like everything,but i remember some odin and these things so i am not complete begginer. So i need some quick tips and what to do like root your phone download this and this ( not exactly, but what is it called and what to look for) and i will google it i am not that retarded, i hope i just need quick heads up. I think main issue is the bloatware, but you probably know that more than i do.
First i have some questions
- Do i need to install custom rom to be without bloatware ?
- If so is cyanogenmod the most reliable here or there are some version which looks like the same as the stock rom ?
I dont care actually that much about look, i just need everything to work, like snapchats/camera and not to drain battery like its some milk from mother's nipple. This might be the stupidest thing in the world, but launcher thing like touchwiz and google launcher, i deal with that after the rom adjusting, am i right ? I might wrote complete bullsh*t, well i dont understand these things that much
I hope atleast someone will help me with the basics or transfer me to some thread where i can find more answers than questions
Thank you very much for reading and eventually helping
Puzvixx said:
yo yo yo devs and phone maniacs,
i have s5-900f or something similiar to that and after 2 years i am out of patience. My phone is laggy ( snapchat and camera opening like 50 billion years maybe slightly more) and i need some quick reminder what to do. I used custom rom on my S3 back in the days, well i forgot like everything,but i remember some odin and these things so i am not complete begginer. So i need some quick tips and what to do like root your phone download this and this ( not exactly, but what is it called and what to look for) and i will google it i am not that retarded, i hope i just need quick heads up. I think main issue is the bloatware, but you probably know that more than i do.
First i have some questions
- Do i need to install custom rom to be without bloatware ?
- If so is cyanogenmod the most reliable here or there are some version which looks like the same as the stock rom ?
I dont care actually that much about look, i just need everything to work, like snapchats/camera and not to drain battery like its some milk from mother's nipple. This might be the stupidest thing in the world, but launcher thing like touchwiz and google launcher, i deal with that after the rom adjusting, am i right ? I might wrote complete bullsh*t, well i dont understand these things that much
I hope atleast someone will help me with the basics or transfer me to some thread where i can find more answers than questions
Thank you very much for reading and eventually helping
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you have quite the way with words
we will need to know what exact model you have. Look under the battery. If your bootloader is locked, root methods differ from unlocked ones
and you dont need a custom rom, just root and titanium backup. make a backup of the full rom, then go into TiB and make a backup of the bloatware apps and then remove them, or if you go pro with TiB (titanium backup) you can freeze apps
youdoofus said:
you have quite the way with words
we will need to know what exact model you have. Look under the battery. If your bootloader is locked, root methods differ from unlocked ones
and you dont need a custom rom, just root and titanium backup. make a backup of the full rom, then go into TiB and make a backup of the bloatware apps and then remove them, or if you go pro with TiB (titanium backup) you can freeze apps
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Well thanks, my english i pretty bad, i try my best so few sentences might not make any sense so dont worry to correct me in any way
its SM-g900f and will custom rom improve my phone a lot ? i mean battery and speed side of my phone. I would like to avoid it if it brings more trouble than advantages.
I think i can root my phone without problems (well google will help, dont want to waste any of your time for my problems) , i just need help with custom roms.
Puzvixx said:
Well thanks, my english i pretty bad, i try my best so few sentences might not make any sense so dont worry to correct me in any way
its SM-g900f and will custom rom improve my phone a lot ? i mean battery and speed side of my phone. I would like to avoid it if it brings more trouble than advantages.
I think i can root my phone without problems (well google will help, dont want to waste any of your time for my problems) , i just need help with custom roms.
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Just grab twrp 3.0.2-1 and flash it via Odin. Once installed, boot to recovery and select reboot then power off. It'll ask you if you want to j stall SU, swipe to confirm yes. Power it back on and you should have SuperSU in your app drawer. From there you can use TiB to remove the crapware and it'll speed your phone up and decrease lag. Yes, a custom ROM will substantially improve performance and battery life. The euro version isn't my deepest field of expertise, as it has a Samsung xynos processor as opposed to the snapdragon in the us variants and some things G's can get murky because of that, but the answer to your battery and lag issue is either a complete wipe and start from scratch, TiB your troubles away or custom rom that thing!
youdoofus said:
Just grab twrp 3.0.2-1 and flash it via Odin. Once installed, boot to recovery and select reboot then power off. It'll ask you if you want to j stall SU, swipe to confirm yes. Power it back on and you should have SuperSU in your app drawer. From there you can use TiB to remove the crapware and it'll speed your phone up and decrease lag. Yes, a custom ROM will substantially improve performance and battery life. The euro version isn't my deepest field of expertise, as it has a Samsung xynos processor as opposed to the snapdragon in the us variants and some things G's can get murky because of that, but the answer to your battery and lag issue is either a complete wipe and start from scratch, TiB your troubles away or custom rom that thing!
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Nice thanks seems easy, i like it. Well now the custom rom. Do you know any other good custom roms except CMod, which are reliable ? I hope CMod is, i figure he is the one who rules, since he is the most famous and i think i have read it somewhere. I just have a feelin,when i try another rom, my phone will be some issue everyday, not sure why
Puzvixx said:
Nice thanks seems easy, i like it. Well now the custom rom. Do you know any other good custom roms except CMod, which are reliable ? I hope CMod is, i figure he is the one who rules, since he is the most famous and i think i have read it somewhere. I just have a feelin,when i try another rom, my phone will be some issue everyday, not sure why
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Well, i can tell you that no custom ROM is perfect, but the touchwiz ones are more trouble free than CM based ROMs. I run MOAR 7.0 and its very trouble free, but i use a G900P.
since the forum search functionality has been restored, a quick search for g900f yielded this for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302
theres tons of ROMs for this phone
youdoofus said:
Well, i can tell you that no custom ROM is perfect, but the touchwiz ones are more trouble free than CM based ROMs. I run MOAR 7.0 and its very trouble free, but i use a G900P.
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what are the differences between your USA S5 and mine ? if i should consider MOAR as a option or not
Puzvixx said:
what are the differences between your USA S5 and mine ? if i should consider MOAR as a option or not
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The euro one has a xynos processor and the us ones have snapdragons. The kernels for the xynos roms aren't compatible with the snapdragon ones