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Hi Everyone,
Longtime lurker here. Didn't want to ask questions until I exhausted all the Q&A threads. This is my first Android and by the way the Red MT is smokin!!!
I read all the threads relating to rooting and most of what I have gathered is about permanent rooting. I think the best bet for me is temp rooting and to remove the bloatware that came with my phone. However, there's not much info and instructions on temp rooting.
Can some kindly give me a step-by-step instructions on what I need to do to remove the bloatware (amazon thingy and the games) without permanent rooting?
Thanks in advance.
Easiest way is to disable apps, rather then removing them. This way you will avoid potential issues with future OTAs as well. You will not gain any space neither if you delete apps since most of them are in /system/app partition with is not user accesible.
1. Get Visionary from one of the threads here on on MoDaCo and temp root.
2. Get Titanium Back-up (get pro version, it's very nice and not too spendy)
3. In TB, go to Back-up/Restore tab, click any app and choose "Freeze" option.
This will put app in disabled state. Yes it's there, no it's not active, not in the app drawer and not taking up any resources. I would also detach those apps from market (again, in TB) to make sure you don't update them and put them back in "enabled" state.
Hope that helps. There's also a big thread about it in dev. section.
Good luck.
I did it another way - get visionary (its not on the market, google modaco and get the apk. You will need a file browser like astro, navigate to your downloads or whereever u saved it and instal it from there). Then get a terminal emulator from market. Open visionary, do root now or whatever that option is. It will take a minute to temproot, when done it wont say anything but it's rooted. Dont reboot.
open terminal emulator type
su (this gives u superuser access)
then type
pm list packages (this will list all packages)
then just look at the packages u want to disable (they're selfexplanatory mostly) and type
com disable EXACT PACKAGE NAME WITH CORRECT LETTERCASE (press enter)
and so on, it will tell you that such and such package is disabled
comprende?
ctakah27 said:
com disable EXACT PACKAGE NAME WITH CORRECT LETTERCASE (press enter)
and so on, it will tell you that such and such package is disabled
comprende?
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What you want to type is
Code:
pm disable EXACT PACKAGE NAME
Please double check your spelling when you give instructions to someone else.
Titanium does exactly that (pm disable) but with UI so it's a little easier for new users, that's why I recommended that instead of doing it manually.
is the "pm disable" command like "freeze" in titanium backup? or does it uninstall the app completely? if it freezes it, how would i unfreeze it?
also, if i remove or freeze apps with a temproot, will the apps still show up or reinstall after i reboot?
borodin1 said:
Easiest way is to disable apps, rather then removing them. This way you will avoid potential issues with future OTAs as well. You will not gain any space neither if you delete apps since most of them are in /system/app partition with is not user accesible.
1. Get Visionary from one of the threads here on on MoDaCo and temp root.
2. Get Titanium Back-up (get pro version, it's very nice and not too spendy)
3. In TB, go to Back-up/Restore tab, click any app and choose "Freeze" option.
This will put app in disabled state. Yes it's there, no it's not active, not in the app drawer and not taking up any resources. I would also detach those apps from market (again, in TB) to make sure you don't update them and put them back in "enabled" state.
Hope that helps. There's also a big thread about it in dev. section.
Good luck.
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This worked like a charm on my G2....other than you MUST have the PRO version to freeze....Rebooted, uninstalled visionary, superuser, and ti backup afterwards...Apps still disabled! Yay!
Remove from Terminal
Hello:
Instead of the PM Disable command, is there another command you can type to remove/delete the package permanently?
Thanks,
jameswenn said:
Hello:
Instead of the PM Disable command, is there another command you can type to remove/delete the package permanently?
Thanks,
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Being that the phone will do a security check there is no way to delete the applications from the phone's hard drive w/o permarooting.
the T/Backup sounds like your best option.
Although the root.sh scripts are extremely easy to execute will little chance of "bricking" the device. If you should want to permaroot the phone
You can batch-freeze
To save time and effort in removing bloatware on a re-boot with Visionary, create a file (Titanium Backup Pro calls it a "label") in Titanium Backup Pro containing the apps you want to freeze.
Then, after a reboot using Visionary for temp root, you can open TB, go to "Batch" operations in Menu, scroll to and select "freeze all user & system apps" and apply the filter you created when the next screen appears.
Apparently perfectly safe because all of this is undone at the next reboot.
ecdy said:
To save time and effort in removing bloatware on a re-boot with Visionary, create a file (Titanium Backup Pro calls it a "label") in Titanium Backup Pro containing the apps you want to freeze.
Then, after a reboot using Visionary for temp root, you can open TB, go to "Batch" operations in Menu, scroll to and select "freeze all user & system apps" and apply the filter you created when the next screen appears.
Apparently perfectly safe because all of this is undone at the next reboot.
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Freeze is permanent, you don't need to re-do it after reboot.
Is there a way to remove the Sense UI with this method?
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
Removing Sense
Don't know about removing Sense (I haven't used Titanium Backup to freeze specifically sense-identified programs) but you can freeze the programs the Tmo puts in the interface, like Faves, and install one of the froyo 2.2 launchers. I've done this and my 4g home screen looks just like my N1 home screen and the app drawer is as clean (almost) as the N1's also. So my 4g has the feel of my N1, with the benefit of 4g access. Wish I could get rid of the lame "genius" button though.
Would anyone know why none of the apk's would show up under backup/restore?
I'm perm. root with S=OFF and have the pro version of TB.
Thanks
smellmyfingers said:
Would anyone know why none of the apk's would show up under backup/restore?
I'm perm. root with S=OFF and have the pro version of TB.
Thanks
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When you open up TB, you need to go to press the "problems?" button below.
this will install busybox.
then you should see them under backup/restore.
Its Very Easy....
1) Use Greenify (We All know About it)
Second Method Is Below.
>Go To
A)Settings
B)Apps
C)Click Any Apps And Select Any Pre Installed App
(Ex.. Google Play Games or Any other app which you Use Rarely)
Now click Disable To Disable It...
Tadaaa its Done.. Now Disable what u want And Save More Battry And Ram.
You Can Also Enable It. :beer:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
Using App Quarantine myself to disable unwanted apps.
If you are rooted you can even freeze apps that usually can not be frozen.
After a restart the apps remain frozen.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ramdroid.appquarantine
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Itz For NoN Rooted User (Noob)
Sent from my XT1033
maurocds said:
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
bookworth said:
No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
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so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You can not disable critical system apps. Just try and you will see.
You can disable apps same way from Android too, it is feature.
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what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
iluvatrix said:
what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
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Then you kill play and bunch of other features, not a good idea.
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was just using GSF as a quick example
but back to my original question is it better to enable ALL apps before taking OTA to avoid possible failure?
or will disabled apps still be "seen" during OTA updating?
i have disabled most Motorola apps that can be disabled are they considered critical when updating thru Motorola OTA?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You don't delete anything. You just tell the system not to start or use those apps. And as a worst case scenario, if you screw up something so bad that you can't even use the phone (but by default you cannot disable really critical apps without root and 3rd party software), a factory reset will solve it.
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
Becareful with system applications!
I agree with the previous post...don't remove system applications unless you know it's not going to be linked to anything of use to you, and even then I would do a backup just in-case...having a broken installation of android simply due to having deleted some system app in an attempt to save a few MB of RAM would be...unfortunate.
juliatan said:
Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
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lol really? you better use an iphone
i remove system apps of all my cell phone, and guess what, they work perfect, never had issues
and if i did someday i don't care, why? because you are root, you can recover roms, flash, upgrade, etc
and yes, i give advice to people who bricked their phones and give guides and methods of doing it, because bricking phones and recovering them it part of learning
Since we now have sort of root I wanted to have a thread where you guys could list all root apps you use and what they do.
When I used to root and do custom roms the apps I would use was adaway,root checker,sometimes titanium backup,and xposed with some tweaks.
The reason I made this thread and I hope someone else didn't make one if they did (mod close this) was to know which root apps you guys use with temp root (until we get perma root) which at this point I think we will have soon.
When I have time I can add lists of apps you guys use or suggest here in OP.
Thanks!
** List Of Apps :
Root Checker - Checks to make sure root works
Titanium Backup - Easy way of remove bloat apps
I was able to use AdAway/AdFree successfully, however on reboot the host file was reverted back.
Hi,
I need help with uninstalling apps. I needed to free a lot of sapce internally to add more apps. I'm thinking of removing certain system apps but I do not know which are safe to remove and which are not.
Please help.
I have tried uninstalling them through multiple apps in the playstore and it always says failed. I am rooted and I want to use the stock rom for now until the data issues are patched. I have disabled the apps I just don't want the on my phone. The facebook apps you can't disable the update. I don't trust facebook and I don't want anything to do with it on my phone so if anyone know's how to remove them please let me know. Thank you.
bluemoonlight said:
I have tried uninstalling them through multiple apps in the playstore and it always says failed. I am rooted and I want to use the stock rom for now until the data issues are patched. I have disabled the apps I just don't want the one my phone. The facebook apps you can't disable the update. I don't trust facebook and I don't want anything to do with it on my phone so if anyone know's how to remove them please let me know. Thank you.
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BEFORE READING, MAKE A BACKUP PRIOR TO THIS ANSWER:
I'm sorry to say, but it would need to be done using the file manager via TWRP. It is a lil tricky because it lacks concise deletion. So it is best to use a rooted file explorer (es file explorer is beneficial for this) and look around these locations:
/system/app
/system/priv-app
/oem/app
/oem/priv-app
Each folder holding the apk must be deleted individually in TWRP's file manager, or you WILL face a possible soft-brick.
Good luck.
(The reason why is, because the oem section is more secure to avoid a break of the phone itself, so it will freeze everytime while the actual OS is in use. Doing it via TWRP ensures deletion and avoiding a freeze bc the recovery OS is different from stock OS)