I was given an EVO(Guy wanted an iPhone instead). I am on Cellular South, its a small network but is CDMA. I saw a post about moving the EVO to MetroPCS and was wondering if anyone could answer the question if its possible to mimic my current phone (HTC HERO) settings to move the EVO over?
My carrier will not accept phones from outside their network, but was thinking that if everything was mimicked it might be possible.
Thanks for the input.
Not possible unless your boinking somebody at that company. Sorry. Doesn't hurt to try though.
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LOL...Well that isn't happening.
Still trying to gather enough info on the process used in the MetroPCS to see if changing all the specs would work. I have no idea where Dev's gain the knowledge to undertake these projects. I am still trying to sort out how each setting interacts with what ever carrier your on and what those settings are. What fun, my brain hurts.
You can do it by changing the esn to a phone that it allowed on Cellular Souths network.... but talk about doing that is frowned upon since it is illegal.
Def possible though.
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Not sure where else to ask but I was wondering if I could get a good answer on this. To the best of my knowledge, all CDMA hardware in the US is the same. Verizon and Sprint phones to date cannot be used outside of their native carrier. I was told that the software is the limitation. Since Android is now the common denominator, it is feasible to think that we will be able to activate verizon phones on sprint and vice versa. Im moving from ATT to Sprint but see some nice Verizon phones on the near horizon. Thanks.
you can switch from sprint to verizon just like you can from att to tmobile..
you'll get the voice network no problem, it's just that sometimes with the 3g/evdo they run on difference frequencies so you generally don't get their high speed internet
you also have to get the msl info to switch it over
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you can switch from sprint to verizon just like you can from att to tmobile..
you'll get the voice network no problem, it's just that sometimes with the 3g/evdo they run on difference frequencies so you generally don't get their high speed internet
you also have to get the msl info to switch it over
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thanks for the response. in saying that, is the hardware different? all my googling shows what they are the same hardware (frequency wise) but the software is different. so would it be possible for a dev to make the neccessary changes to use a phone on either verizon/sprint?
Its possible to do but the issue is getting everything and registered to work on the other carrier. Usually voice is not an issue its other things like data, mms or sms that can have issues.
The bottom line on this is you are going against the grain of what everyone else does so you can't expect to get much help from the carrier (the big 3).
If Verizon lets you. You would have to ask them to add your phone to their service. Any reason why you would though? If you're joining Verizon just get the Eris, or wait another month for the Dragon/Passion.
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I just did the Alltel to Verizon shuffle with my PPC6800. They reprogrammed the carrier over the air. This messed up my various MSL settings and was generally a PITA. I got into Tech Support and whines (being a girl helps) and they tried getting me different numbers until it all worked fine. I also needed to add a phone line while Alltel since I am waiting for a new phone. I bought one at Mal*Wart for Alltel. They tried again to program it OTA when the switch was made. Rinse repeat but again customer tech support (NOT the billing people) found more magic super double secret numbers and got both instruments working. If the hardware is the same they can fix it ALL through Tech Support over the air- just beg.
I work for Verizon and YES you can use another CDMA's carrier on Verizon. As far as using a VZW phone on Sprint, unless you know someone that can reprogram it, it's not gonna happen. I USE to work for Sprint and they have this "if it doesn't say Sprint, we won't allow it" policy.
Verizon has a request sheet if you want to use your CDMA phone on verizon. You have to fill it out and send it in with your phone. They say it takes a few weeks to get it back all programmed for VZW. I've never tried it but I know people have done it. They usually program phones that they already carry, like Sprint Touch Pro to Verizon Touch Pro.. all they did was flash the rom for Verizon and etc. I uploaded the form on here somewhere.
Hope this helps
yes; i switched to cricket
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580795
Im just curious if i were to buy this phone off contract if i could have it activated with boost? i know 4G would be out of the question but would it get 3G if possible?
You'd have to wait for people to find a way to get it to recognize Boost's connection settings. My Touch Pro, for example, required at least a dozen changes in the registry and connection setup in order to work with Metro PCS.
Unless Android explicitly prohibits this, and I kind of doubt that, there could be a way to get this phone to work with Boost if somebody were to try.
you can get the hero on boost I talked to a guy that did it, evdo never worked from what I remembered, had to get into the programming but it wasn't the hardest thing ever. It will take a lot of patience and lot of work to get all that sorted out.
If you are wanting a quick port, look elsewhere, the hero has been done, might go that route, but the method should be very much similar with the evo.
I'll do my normal speel once I get my evo in how to get into the programming menus, what works, what doesn't ..how to get your msl and the lot, I can try and help with the programming it's self, but I'm sure there are lots of others that can take it from there.
Technically any Sprint CDMA phone can work on Boost CDMA, it's just that Sprint chooses what phones go on what network. SO the cool phones go on the contract network (Sprint) while the prepaid network (Boost) gets the "crappy" phones. This is why i'm considering switching to a GSM carrier so i can get a phone of choice and just pop in a SIM.
I used to know some folks **cough** cough** who could do all this switcheroo on certain phones to Boost CDMA but the Evo is a new beast which would be hard. The phones are getting more complex and locked down more and more.
Really all it takes is for Sprint not to lock down the Evo ESN's to specific plans/features/codes in their system...but that's NEVER going to happen, mate.
I am in Canada, so my EVO 4G does not work (no Sprint) - how can I "flash" my EVO 4G to Bell, a Canadian CDMA carrier with the same bands as Sprint?
Good luck.
You should be able to roam if yours is the IO phone with the free service.
If you want to use it on another CDMA carrier you need them to have a PRL which has to be on your phone and the ESN needs to be in their DMD (device management database). Am I forgetting anything? I swear I am forgetting something.
So, good luck.
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You should be able to roam if yours is the IO phone with the free service.
If you want to use it on another CDMA carrier you need them to have a PRL which has to be on your phone and the ESN needs to be in their DMD (device management database). Am I forgetting anything? I swear I am forgetting something.
So, good luck.
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I actually am currently roaming. This is obviously not a long-term solution, because if I was paying for it, the bill would be a few hundred dollars!
I do not know of a way to do this but I do believe that Sprint's Roaming on the Everything pans are free.
DOMESTIC roaming is free. International can be quite expensive.
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it can be flashed here in the us to cricket and metropcs, so im sure it can be done for bell as well
Would love to see this flashed to verizon?havin the hd2 on gsm. And the evo on cdma.untouchable.
I doubt it would ever be flashed to Verizon. Verizon would have to allow the ESN into their database, and they just recently locked it down to no longer allow ESN's from other carriers (started with the Touch Pro, I believe) into their database. I'm not sure about Telus' policy on that, but I'm pretty sure if they did allow the ESN onto their database, all you would need to do is load their PRL and you may also have to manually program it, if it can't auto-provision itself...
there are ways to swap your esn. i am not sure about the legality in canada, but i've been led to believe it's illegal in the us. if you had a valid esn in your network, you may be able to swap the esn on your evo to the esn of the other device.
if it's legal in your country.
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it can be flashed here in the us to cricket and metropcs, so im sure it can be done for bell as well
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How can it be flashed to cricket?? I've asked everywhere but no one's pointed me in the right direction yet..
first things first
First you have to see if "EPST" works on android. I know how to do it on winmo, but i don't have an android. if you can get into your EPST you need to know your "MSL" your 6 digit Master Security Lock code. Then you have to change your radio settings. To get to into epst on Winmo you have to dial ##3424# or something like that. Good luck.
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Hello, you can find your answer on my "What is the equivalent of WInMo EPST on Android?" thread.
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How can it be flashed to cricket?? I've asked everywhere but no one's pointed me in the right direction yet..
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Actually it can be flashed to both metro and cricket. there's someone selling a solution at mobilefiles
Go to Development thread...there's a download to enable moving to Verizon . Need to get your MSL code from Sprint....tricky one.
Sprint had crap signal in Iowa...switched to full bar Verizon all weekend.
to flash to cricket, load a cricket prl on to the phone, then get them to activate the esn... theres plenty of info on this, google is your best friend for this
I'm a Cellular South user who's reallllly lusting after the Epic 4G -- sadly it looks like it's going to be the only Galaxy S slider released. Once the phone is released and rooted, would it be possible for the phone to work on non-Sprint carriers? I've currently got a HTC Hero, and I know for the longest time our ROMs were based off of the Sprint RUU.
Just curious if this is plausible, very likely, or not a chance in hell.
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Sure it will be possible just like the Hero was. 4G won't be possible, but the phone will be able to at least make calls until you figure out any of the other stuff needed for data and market.
How compatible do you think this phone would be with MetroPCS? Also, I heard that LTE could be added with a firmware update on this phone, or at least phones like it. Is that true? If so, do you think it might work on other future 4G networks, like that of Verizon or Metro? Sorry for all the potentially silly questions, I've never shopped for a CDMA phone before.
LTE uses a SIM card I believe so without the hardware built into the pone, you couldn't use it on that kind of network.
I read a blog with an interview of a Sprint higher up saying that they could potentially change the technology of 4g quickly and cheaply in places that currently have 4g. However, I don't know if that means another set of GSM 3G vs CDMA 3G like we have now. Maybe it would be a CDMA LTE that doesn't use a SIM?
Hopefully they just leave well enough alone. I know the technology will be different at Verizon (LTE) and T-MO(HSPA+), but differences usually foster growth for the best to keep up. I guess that would also eliminate a roaming data possiblity.
Who knows...lots of questions.
LTE isn't CDMZA based, it is its own beast.
This is where I read about the SIM card http://gizmodo.com/5590530/leaked-documents-and-lte-sim-show-verizon-4g-launch-is-imminent
Wikipedia is more info if you search LTE about the technology.
I apologize if this has been covered, I didn't find anything in a quick search. A buddy was asking about flashing his Evo to Verizon. I saw a few youtube videos showing results but haven't found a process.
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Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.
I dont think so.
You can have your evo run off of verizon's towers with a prl hack
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
There's no legal way to do it.
You would have to fake your esn number and such.
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Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.
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Both vzw and sprint use CDMA... no simcards involved.
To OP: No, verizon requires the ESN to be already present on their database (same way as sprint) before activating the device.
The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.
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The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.
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Boost is owned by Sprint so it makes some sense that you could cross those phones.
Not sure about cricket but it's my guess that they don't lock down their esns.
The only way I've ever heard of using a Sprint/Verizon phone on either network is with esn spoofing and it's not legal, at all.
Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.
You said it bro! Spoof was the word I was looking for. Will require a donor phone though on the network you want to use it on.
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Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.
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It's not illegal to change your ESN as long as you are paying for the fees. The legality comes in when you try to clone ESN in order to avoid fees.
But even if OP were to clone the ESN, the frequency's don't really match and would have problems working
And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.
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And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.
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Your a Joke
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Your a Joke
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You're the one with an iPad 2 and always talking about it!
And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:
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And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:
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Its kinda the culture of XDA.
And to be completely honest its encouraged by the rules, or lack there of.