Has anyone figured out how to get USB tethering working under OSX's Network Settings?
The driver included on the phone, for USB tethering, is a Windows Executable.
I thought I had an idea of how to setup the USB modem (looks right to me), but the connection simply times out and returns a generic error.
Any ideas?
Put the phone on charge only then use hotspot that way it will charge while tethering lol
:/
Anyone else?
hi,
i don't know whether or not this can be seen as a efficient way. but in my opinion it is a clean way to make those two work together. i am not sure of the other main ways of accomplishing this, but as i recall the wifi-hotspot will heat up your device and i'd think that'll damage your battery at some point. and i'm not really comfortable with installing a 3rd party app on the phone and osx to accomplish this. to get to the point:
i use virtualbox to let a VM (which is running a system which can make use of the ndis-device of course..) build a bridge so that osx can make use of the gateway which is provided by the standard-android tethering implementation. so both VM and osx have a full-blown internet connection.
i use this method for quite some time. i know it is a bloody simple concept, but it is a alternative to the wifi-hotspot..
I don't know what would be the reason to bump 1/2 year old thread, but I'll chime in with new data for future searches:
1) WiFi tethering doesn't heat up the phone to a point that wouldn't be reached by just playing a game, for example.
2) Pure Sense 2.1 and Sense 3.0 ROMs have a switch for USB tethering, allowing to choose Windows tether (RNDIS) or Mac OS X tether (something that I didn't test).
i was wondering if there's a more efficient way in the meantime, because unfortunately virtualbox seems to be plagued by a great deal of regression regarding the USB2.0 and network interface support in between their releases.
so you are saying that there actually is a OSX compatible implementation in the new releases? i have pounded google a great deal on this matter but did not discover anything satisfying.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. All Sense 2.1 / 3.0 ROMs seem to have that option.
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I know this has been discussed multiple times and we ended the discussion by suggesting to use Mobile AP (WiFi Tether).
However, I defer from the above workaround which works great for me as well due to:
1. Using WiFi Tether unnecessarily increases the phone and battery temperature and can reduce the phone's life
2. I still end up connecting the phone through USB to keep it charging while consuming a lot of energy while doing WiFi Tether. If that is so, I would rather switch off Mobile AP and WiFi on my Laptop and use USB tether instead. Consumes much less power and reduces the network latency and could be faster than Mobile AP
3. Froyo builds usually allow upto 5 WiFi clients to be connected to the phone sharing the 3G connection (which is much better in my location than any other broadband format including ADSL!). Using USB tether on one workstation (like my desktop) I could share it on upto 7 devices (including phone and my desktop)
4. As an ambitious campaigner, I may want to use WiFi on my phone for one purpose, probably for using DLNA and 3G to tether internet connection on a PC! This may not be possible if I use Mobile AP as it will use the WiFi radio.
If this feature is "OFFICIALLY" provided by Samsung on their "released" builds, why is it so unstable??? I would rather like to get this working rather than we looking for a workaround like using Mobile AP which is best used when really needed.
I would like to use this phone sometimes 24x7 downloading huge stuffs and it will waste the phone if I only rely on Mobile AP keeping the phone HOT all the time.
I have observed the following while doing USB Tether:
a) Problem exist on all test and released 2.x firmwares including the latest Froyo JPK.
b) Indications are same when using "PC Internet" option which creates a "hidden" network connection with the PC when USB connected with the phone and "USB Tethering" box under "Tethering" option in "Settings" Page.
c) While the phone shows that it is tethering normally, somehow the PC "FREEZES" the "TCP/IP" Stack as pinging its own IP FREEZES the ping command. All the network monitoring applications also freeze during this time. This is a very strange behavior I observed during the initial days of Windows 9x when you had to restart the TCP/IP stack.
Infact this issue looks very unique as even in Windows 9x, I never saw the Network apps freezing like this. Resetting the connection fixes the problem and it cycles the same way after that.
I have tested this behavior on 3 workstations:
A] My Official Laptop running Windows XP SP3 with all recent updates and Norton Internet Security Corporate Edition (firewall gives access to the network)
B] My Home Laptop running Windows 7 Professional with latest updates and Kaspersky Internet Security 201x (recently updated 2010 to 2011 - firewall gives access to the network)
C] My Home Desktop dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate AND XP SP3 with latest updates and Kaspersky Internet Security 201x (recently updated 2010 to 2011 - firewall gives access to the network)
All the above workstations have the same issue pointing the issue to be on the phone hardware or software or USB cable (tried 3 MicroUSB cables including the official provided by Samsung).
I have been troubleshooting this issue in the last 3 months, could not identify other issue than seeing the workstation freezing the network activities quite strangely as suggested above. Any help by my fellow SGS users, developers, moderators will be highly appreciated.
Thanks for your participation, lets team up and contact Samsung to resolve this issue if it bothers many people like me.
EDIT: I would try to keep this post updated with usable comments/suggestions/workaround as we discuss
Bump.. Appreciate your help.
Seems noone's using this feature which is VERY important to me. Can anyone help or should I contact Samsung to get this BUG fixed which exists on every firmware I have tried till date.
No tethering problems here. Maybe your device is just faulty?
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Hi,
i've searched all the internet for resolution for that and nothing.
Weird thing is that connection was working good on 2.1 and also on 2.2 and then stopped working just like that (1-10 minutes of connection and then dc for like 5-30 seconds)
Tried almost all apps on market which didn't help me. Now i am trying PDAnet which is working well for about 40 minutes now. I had some troubles installing it but finally did it with USB drivers delivered with PC program of PDAnet. Wifi 5mb/s download speed and just slight ping increase but i am far away from AP so that's the problem i think.
However if someone know if it's system problem (running win7 prof. sp1) or any 3rd party software it will be nice to get working again on standard tethering provided on i9000 as it doesnt require any 3rd party software on PC to get it working.
If dc's again come i'll post info.
kstepyra said:
Hi,
i've searched all the internet for resolution for that and nothing.
Weird thing is that connection was working good on 2.1 and also on 2.2 and then stopped working just like that (1-10 minutes of connection and then dc for like 5-30 seconds)
Tried almost all apps on market which didn't help me. Now i am trying PDAnet which is working well for about 40 minutes now. I had some troubles installing it but finally did it with USB drivers delivered with PC program of PDAnet. Wifi 5mb/s download speed and just slight ping increase but i am far away from AP so that's the problem i think.
However if someone know if it's system problem (running win7 prof. sp1) or any 3rd party software it will be nice to get working again on standard tethering provided on i9000 as it doesnt require any 3rd party software on PC to get it working.
If dc's again come i'll post info.
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I'm assuming that all your PC drivers are uptodate? According to me, it's a PC issue more than a phone one (check your PC logs & Firewall logs)
I have turned everything off (firewall, antiviruses etc.) and no changes. PDAnet is working well and as i saw it's .800 version of the usb driver, but new KIES installs .2000 one. Had problems with .2000 as PDAnet says i don't have usb drivers installed Uninstalled KIES one and installed .800, then PDAnet installed well. However - this program was only one solution to work. I have to try normal tethering on XP and clean win7 on laptop soon as i get it on hands.
Bump for a still existant issue
Getting constant cutouts with USB tethering on Samung Galaxy S i9000T running Froyo 2.2.1 Darkys Rom 9.5
Wondering if maybe getting a Dock will fix it?
Problem here too.
I am having the very same problem too. USB tethering works fine (faster than Wireless tethering) in the first few minutes, then drops the connection, and usually I have to restart my phone.
The reason I would use USB is that for online gaming Wireless tethering is too laggy in some cases. I would really appreciate a solution here.
I am using JPU modem on Froyo 2.2.1 btw.
Nothing has been solved about this sissue?
My Phone warranty is going to expire in about a month now. I am not going to keep this phone unless Samsung resolves this issue! Seems most of us are unaware of this issue and suggest they don't have the problem
I have been using smartphones since the first one, and never faced such issue. Using USB tether reduces latency significantly and also do not need to use Wifi on both phone and my laptop.
Some of us feel its a PC issue. How come connecting it to 4 of my PCs at home have exactly the same issue? They also have different OS and Firewall/AV.
On top of that, all the GB based ROMs have strange battery discharging issue after full charge and is killing my battery unnecessarily:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134741
I have escalated these issues to Samsung yesterday. They are affecting me most as these are the primary use of this phone.
I don't have this problems, just give CM7 a try.
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Try any 2.3.4 Custom ROM, it works just fine.
Worked with it yesterday all day.
It still gets hot when using the 3G/Wifi connection, but with usb tether it rocks !
Brotuck said:
Try any 2.3.4 Custom ROM, it works just fine.
Worked with it yesterday all day.
It still gets hot when using the 3G/Wifi connection, but with usb tether it rocks !
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I haven't tested 2.3.4 images for USB tethering much, however what troubles me most is ANY GB ROM start draining battery after full charge which is currently bothering me most as its killing my battery and phone unnecessarily while randomly making my phone go dead anytime even when USB/charger connected all the time (after going dead, restarts in battery charging mode as USB connection gets refreshed)
On my (and i guess others) Rom i get a least 24 / 48 hours. But it really depends on what you do with it during the day. I have not experienced any batterydrain on my custom rom. Ever.....
send from another galaxy !
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On my (and i guess others) Rom i get a least 24 / 48 hours. But it really depends on what you do with it during the day. I have not experienced any batterydrain on my custom rom. Ever.....
send from another galaxy !
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I ALSO get the same usage time AFTER DISCONNECTING the charger and using the phone normally.
However, my phone is used primarily for WIFI Tether of 3G connection and hence has to be plugged through the day most of the time when doing tethering. After full charge, my battery drains heavily as the charger is disconnected on GB (instead of disconnecting the battery after full charge) and hence killing the life of my battery through such abuse.
still experiencing this
just an unstable connection
works then every 5/10 minutes it'll stop working and pages will take a while to load then it just starts working again
it's like bursts of connectivity
currently on 2.3.3
can anyone confirm 2.3.4 fixes it after being on 2.3.3?
I'm using a JVR ROM (2.3.4) and have the same problems with USB tethering.
It's rather annoying; i've searched around and it seems to be widespread, I'm not sure if it happens to everybody though.
This is what I've noticed:
- The USB tethering stops working usually at the same time that my Win 7 laptop says that the device could be using USB 2.0 instead for faster speed. At that point, the phone disables USB tethering
- Re-enabling USB tethering on the phone settings makes it work for a minute or so, until the same thing happens
- It does not matter if the phone is on USB debug on/off (i've tried both), or whether it is set to use Kies, Mass storage, or media player under the USB connection menu
I'm trying to find a different USB driver, just to try if it solves anything. But have not been able to find a proper one.
It would help if someone on a 2.3.4 Rom could confirm that USB tethering works for them. At least we could then know whether it is solvable (via configuration, settings, etc.) or not at all until Samsung releases a fix.
I'm having this issue with the Samsung Captivate I897 running Froyo 2.2 through At&T, rooted. I realize that its not the same device this thread's meant for but possibly a related issue? I've been trying to find a solution to this for a few months now... I randomly get disconnected from the internet while using the USB Tethering. I'm forced to re-connect through the phone every 20 minutes or so... I've tried using alternate applications to tether and to use the Mobile AP... With all the apps I run into the same unstable connection as well as with the Mobile AP. This is rather frustating and the last time I spoke with Samsung, I was informed that they no longer "support" usb tethering. I'm at a loss as to what to do, if anyone has any insight this would be greatly appreciated...hopeully even though this is a different device, there's a relation somehow??
Same issue here
I am on DLev's 4.2 Rom. KG3 Modem. I9000 Reoriented Kernel vG_2.1
I just flashed to this ROM and modem version after experiencing the same issues with Darky's XXJVR R3.2.(All stock as provided by the Dev.)
It seems intermittent at this point. I verified that the Mobile AP works great (as of last night). The USB tethering disconnects after a few minutes or seconds and the USB tethering option becomes "unchecked" on the phone itself. Windows 7 Complains about the speed of the USB port and I have swapped to a few different ones, but the same thing happens. Although I am typing this and it has been connected for 20 minutes or so with no issues.
I have also disabled any firewalls or Antivirus to make sure that wasn't the cause. Same issue. I am on Windows 7 x64 (SP1). I am starting to wonder if this a Windows Update that could have caused the issue.
Anyway, just to give more info to the subject.
Ok.. here is something I stumbled across that may have solved this. Appears to be a Windows 7 setting. I have a Captivate but I am running an i9000 Rom, so this might work and might not.
Open Control Panel-->System And Security-->Power Options-->Edit Plan Settings-->"Change Advanced Power Settings". Then navigate to the "USB Settings" and expand "USB selective suspend settings". If the value here is set to "Enabled", click on it and select "Disabled". Click "apply" and then Click "ok".
I pieced this together due to other people having issues with NIC drivers and Windows 7. They were able to get past it with settings on the card drivers under device manager and telling the driver not to do any power management on the card. The drivers for my device has no settings for this, so it is a possible workaround. I am waiting to see what happens. Can someone else give it a try as well?
Hi,
I'm not sure whether it's good thing to open one thread related to two problems but I haven't got better idea how to put it.
Main problem:
Since I have acquired my GT540 I'm still searching for the solution for reverse tethering. My operator doesn't have decent data plan, quite often I'm out of any wifi range and currently I'm completely out of wireless.
So I'm left with workable USB connection and Bluetooth. Which leads us to...
Secondary problem:
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835912 and solution proposed there is quite feasible to me as usbnet still seems to be song of the future and I'm using Linux on the host PC anyway. But when I tried to implement it, I learned that PPP is not enabled in my kernel, which understandably derailed my plan. I use CM7 by Mur4ik.
The question then is, can I somehow painlessly enable this PPP support?
Or could someone politely nudge Mur4ik to enable it in the next release of SwiftDroid? (I don't have sufficient rights to post in devel forum myself)
Or, is there another, working way of getting net access for my phone?
Cheers.
So, you don't have Wireless Adapter or WiFi to put on your desktop and share the internet?
I have tested to share the PC internet connection via USB to GT540 and i never did it...
I bought a WiFi AP and now I use the GT540 with Wireless on my entire house, i think its better than USB.
As I mentioned, sometimes I have wireless access but recently I'm stuck without. Besides, in this most recent cm7-m6 adhoc networking doesn't work either.
Yes, I think too that having wifi coverage in home is nice but the problem I stated is what to do WHEN you don't have it.
So i've been with android since its beggings since about 2.0 on my HTC Hero GSM and switched over various OS's and never had an issue with file transfers.
Here comes the new Galaxy S3 and all the new 4.0 + devices that now use MTP which works perfectly well on windows, but we all know its a pain in the behind for both Linux distro, and Macintosh 10.5- and 10.7+
After trying Various apps that enable UMS i came around Easy UMS which was a possible fix, exept it didnt work on my wonderful AOSP roms nor the custom ones i flashed either, there we go frustrated again.
Tried AOSP ums mounters, tried mounting over a terminal emulator and neither of them worked quite well. so i decided to go ahead and turn on a VMware windows 7 virtual machine which then allowed me to connect my SIII and gave me access to both external and internal 16GB cards, with a wonderfull speed where i was able to transfer the last leaked software which was around 700mb in less than 20 seconds.
Now this is not a fix, its an alternative. i found funny how easy it was in windows compared to either mac or linux and if you dont have access to a windows computer. VM is the easiest way out and is not something everyone thinks about everyday. it might not be a fix for the guys who dont exploit their computers to what they are capable off but those of us who are a bit geeky can get access to this speed without installing Bootcamp.
If any of you mac users would like to know how to install a VM on your mac to get access to this useful feature as well as some other benefits dont mind leaving me a PM or just ask for help and i will assist you
Dont forget to click on the thanks button if this thread was of eny help to you.
Best regards.
Hello,
I've done quite a bit of searching and not found an answer to anything. I'm tech savvy, but don't know much when it comes to Linux.
I have an N7 Grouper, currently running a version of Timur's USB Rom on 4.2.2, but I don't know if I'm sticking with it or not (I'm open to changing, if there's a better option for a carputer setup--Autodroid, maybe?).
I have an iPhone that my company is paying for tethering on. I have successfully connected to my iPhone's wifi, but I have to go in and open the tethering screen, then turn on and connect my wifi from my N7 to it. Its really annoying to have to do that, and turn it on/off every time. I found that there is a way to tether an iPhone to Linux, and I'm under the impression that anything that can be done on a Linux machine can be adapted to Android.
So the real question is, will the Linux instructions (www dot howtogeek dot com/68999/how-to-tether-your-iphone-to-your-linux-pc/) work? If so, how is it adapted, and can someone walk me through it?
Thanks!
Eric
Is there a way to use android for the wifi capabilities such as a dongle? Basically my laptop only sees 2.4GHz and I could buy a dual band dongle or upgrade the network card, but my note 5 is rooted, has 2.4/5/AC capability and a usb even lol so Id think itd be possible to plug phone into pc and have pc recognize it as a wifi adapter which would allow me to analyze the network with all the capability of the phone. I can nly find results of tethering which the pc recognizes as a ethernet connection which wont enable being able to see the wifi ssids that the phone can.
droseofc said:
Is there a way to use android for the wifi capabilities such as a dongle? Basically my laptop only sees 2.4GHz and I could buy a dual band dongle or upgrade the network card, but my note 5 is rooted, has 2.4/5/AC capability and a usb even lol so Id think itd be possible to plug phone into pc and have pc recognize it as a wifi adapter which would allow me to analyze the network with all the capability of the phone. I can nly find results of tethering which the pc recognizes as a ethernet connection which wont enable being able to see the wifi ssids that the phone can.
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Theoretically, yes.
You would need an application on your phone and one on the laptop.
The application would take over your laptop's wifi control and hand it over to the app on the phone.
Afaik, this pair oft apps does not exist.
And I think it's not worth writing them.
USB Wifi Dongles with 5Ghz cost like 20 €/£/$.
So
Effectively, no.
I figured but really, everybody has a phone if this was an option even for 5-10$ it would be a better one then having to go out or get on amazon, read reviews and purchase a dongle that may or may not satisfy. If it was able to be done on a phone more then likely there is one with anybody that gets on a pc/laptop and if it was as easy as plugging it in to use it as a wifi dongle, not tether but an actual wifi adapter itd be like the next great thing, not like that bluetooth tethering they tried but like the end to usb wifi dongles I think anyways. Besides with all the ridiculous apps that do cost money on the play store i think somethin like this would be in the top most purchased. plus idk how the licensing works but with it actually being a internet connecting app it would be hard to crack the apk as it would be required to have full contact with whatever servers authenticate the purchase. I would think anybody that worked with networking would have it as a must have for work as its one less thing to carry and should be somewhat simple plug and go plus the countless people who are someday buying a dongle there would be no need to. Cha to the ching
Kaffeetrinker said:
Theoretically, yes.
You would need an application on your phone and one on the laptop.
The application would take over your laptop's wifi control and hand it over to the app on the phone.
Afaik, this pair oft apps does not exist.
And I think it's not worth writing them.
USB Wifi Dongles with 5Ghz cost like 20 €/£/$.
So
Effectively, no.
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droseofc said:
I figured but really, everybody has a phone if this was an option even for 5-10$ it would be a better one then having to go out or get on amazon, read reviews and purchase a dongle that may or may not satisfy. If it was able to be done on a phone more then likely there is one with anybody that gets on a pc/laptop and if it was as easy as plugging it in to use it as a wifi dongle, not tether but an actual wifi adapter itd be like the next great thing, not like that bluetooth tethering they tried but like the end to usb wifi dongles I think anyways. Besides with all the ridiculous apps that do cost money on the play store i think somethin like this would be in the top most purchased. plus idk how the licensing works but with it actually being a internet connecting app it would be hard to crack the apk as it would be required to have full contact with whatever servers authenticate the purchase. I would think anybody that worked with networking would have it as a must have for work as its one less thing to carry and should be somewhat simple plug and go plus the countless people who are someday buying a dongle there would be no need to. Cha to the ching
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Nah, there'd be like 0 to 4 people on the planet who'd actually pay for that feature.
Cause from pro to noob, 99.99999% are fine with regular USB tethering or BT Tethering! If they have to change the wifo network, they don't need to change the Wifi network using the mouse. They just grab their phone. It can't be far, it's connected to the laptop, just follow the cable
Anyway, most people don't even know they can do something else with their phone besides Whatsapp, Facebook, Snapchat, taking pictures and dropping it cracking the screen
Already heard of a thing called routing tables? Just because something is connected to the internet doesn't mean it will reach a certain server. How do you think your Adblock works? Exactly like that
People who work with networking use ethernet cables. They have Ethernet plugs all over their workspace. They often don't usw wifi at all at work.
If you still think it's ka and ching, then go ahead, learning to program is always a good idea!
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Lol will I know for a fact itd be like, whoever made that app now has some change in their pocket and it goes jang a lang a lang. I unfortunately do not know the programming knowhows, though think I could learn it if I put myself to it, by looking at how some of them are written it looks pretty straight forward once you got the jist of it down, I just dont got that and it kind of overwhelms me trying to figure it out without any knowledge of it. But, you are right, at least without maybe google play promoting it or some type of advertising that would show it as being in place of a usb dongle it would probably get buried by the countless apps made each day which btw all are not great (some are ridiculous) yet they are there. I am sure root would be needed for an app like that, which would detract from the audience as well. but the need for usb dongles is nowhere near a thing of the past, in fact I'd say it will only become more of a thing to have especially for the ones that would rather get it instead of buying a entire new system. With technology today and the transition from wired to wireless it would be the last option for anybody that doesnt have wireless before they have to update a whole system so more then likely they will opt for the 20$ dongle. I do consider myself one of a kind and like harry potter special (joking) but if I really am the only person to have tried doing a wifi heatmap on a laptop that only had 2.4 ghz capabilities then either i am broker then everybody else or I am just not from this earth.With all of the things you are able to do with a phone, use it as a bootable usb to boot a system (drivedroid), foxfi tether, wbnr wifi hack) youd think with a few changes of the programming or combination of the 3 this would be something easily done. I take it your familiar with programming? It seems you are and thats in a compliment kind of way, none of this is in a disrespect or disagreement with you at all, i just am uninformed in the category, but how long approximately does it take to say program an app that would be like a screen mirror app or even simple notepad app? These days if given the choice of buying a 20$ vs anything above and both have the same end result the 20$ is going to fly off the shelf. Of course these arent hot cakes but in any given situation when paying for less is an option and getting the same thing is the result i mean it is hard to think it wouldnt become popular. Drivedroid lets you use phone as bootable usb, i have countless usbs but it is just so much more convenient using my phone as its usally in my pocket already and convenience is what takes the cake.
Kaffeetrinker said:
Nah, there'd be like 0 to 4 people on the planet who'd actually pay for that feature.
Cause from pro to noob, 99.99999% are fine with regular USB tethering or BT Tethering! If they have to change the wifo network, they don't need to change the Wifi network using the mouse. They just grab their phone. It can't be far, it's connected to the laptop, just follow the cable
Anyway, most people don't even know they can do something else with their phone besides Whatsapp, Facebook, Snapchat, taking pictures and dropping it cracking the screen
Already heard of a thing called routing tables? Just because something is connected to the internet doesn't mean it will reach a certain server. How do you think your Adblock works? Exactly like that
People who work with networking use ethernet cables. They have Ethernet plugs all over their workspace. They often don't usw wifi at all at work.
If you still think it's ka and ching, then go ahead, learning to program is always a good idea!
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droseofc said:
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Lol will I know for a fact itd be like, whoever made that app now has some change in their pocket and it goes jang a lang a lang. I unfortunately do not know the programming knowhows, though think I could learn it if I put myself to it, by looking at how some of them are written it looks pretty straight forward once you got the jist of it down, I just dont got that and it kind of overwhelms me trying to figure it out without any knowledge of it. But, you are right, at least without maybe google play promoting it or some type of advertising that would show it as being in place of a usb dongle it would probably get buried by the countless apps made each day which btw all are not great (some are ridiculous) yet they are there.
I am sure root would be needed for an app like that, which would detract from the audience as well. but the need for usb dongles is nowhere near a thing of the past, in fact I'd say it will only become more of a thing to have especially for the ones that would rather get it instead of buying a entire new system. With technology today and the transition from wired to wireless it would be the last option for anybody that doesnt have wireless before they have to update a whole system so more then likely they will opt for the 20$ dongle. I do consider myself one of a kind and like harry potter special (joking) but if I really am the only person to have tried doing a wifi heatmap on a laptop that only had 2.4 ghz capabilities then either i am broker then everybody else or I am just not from this earth.
With all of the things you are able to do with a phone, use it as a bootable usb to boot a system (drivedroid), foxfi tether, wbnr wifi hack) youd think with a few changes of the programming or combination of the 3 this would be something easily done. I take it your familiar with programming? It seems you are and thats in a compliment kind of way, none of this is in a disrespect or disagreement with you at all, i just am uninformed in the category, but how long approximately does it take to say program an app that would be like a screen mirror app or even simple notepad app? These days if given the choice of buying a 20$ vs anything above and both have the same end result the 20$ is going to fly off the shelf. Of course these arent hot cakes but in any given situation when paying for less is an option and getting the same thing is the result i mean it is hard to think it wouldnt become popular. Drivedroid lets you use phone as bootable usb, i have countless usbs but it is just so much more convenient using my phone as its usally in my pocket already and convenience is what takes the cake.
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Whoaaaa.... Sorry but too long to read...
Maybe THIS will convince you:
1. Almost any phone uses USB 2.0
2. Phone's USB Speed is limited due to the USB speed not being the manufacturer's priority (Ever been annoyed about the slow transfer speed of files to your PC?)
3. 2.4 GHz Wifi already gives you 54 to 160Bit/s.
That's a speed, you'll NEVER get through your USB connection.
Be really happy if you get 40 MBit/s...
4. There are... like no wifi routers which support 5GHz only.
5. There are no Laptops without any wifi except in a museum or in the big spare parts box in my garage.
Who'll buy it?
1. People who don't have wifi in their notebook?
No, they sit in a museum or they just use regular USB tethering.
2. People who want faster network connection?
No, cause it won't get faster.
3. People who are in an area with 5GHz wifi only?
No, 5Ghz only makes no sense due to its bad signal through walls. This just doesn't exist.
4. People with old hardware who have a broken wifi chip in their notebook and who can't afford a dongle?
They would use regular USB tethering. If they can't afford a dongle, they can't afford your app.
5. People with very few space in their pockets, to few to carry a thumb sized wifi dongle?
No, they use Bluetooth Tethering. They probably also have a wireless charging phone cause they also don't like to carry a cable.
6. People who are allergic to Wifi dongles or who are forbidden to buy them by their religion because the dongles aren't approved by their guru whereas mobile phones are?
Nooo, they just use regular USB Tethering. They live in the guru's house, they may not leave it, so no point in having an easier way to change the wifi network. Besides, the only laptop in the guru's home is his own, cause his followers may use the internet only once a week, so one notebook is enough for the whole lot. And Guru is rich enough to have a new notebook with integrated 5 GHz Wifi.
AND FINALLY: HOW OFTEN A DAY DO YOU CHANGE YOUR WIFI NETWORK?
ONCE OR TWICE
Use regular USB tethering and pick your fnjörpliging phone up to change the network, there's absolutely no need to have an app for that!
So, I had very much fun trolling you with facts! I even got to make a joke about a funny made-up religion.
I'm outta here
Well after that post it all kind of makes sense to me now. You either are not that informed about 2.4/5ghz radios, you live somewhere that it is not popular... yet. Not sure if you understand what heat mapper is referring to, its only the signal that matters not the speed but if speed was an issue you kept up on any tech news lately or hear of somethin called usb c? 10Gbps. 2.0 gets 480Mbps or 60MBps which would be plenty and would undoubtedly be better then usb tethering as it would have direct and complete use of the wifi connection.
So almost any phone USED to use usb 2.0, like almost any computer USED to dial up to connect, wondering if you might still be, (jk). Just like it always has and will tech changes and soon they will MOSTLY have usb-c or 3.1 and speed is out the window. And finally, r u familiar with play store and its contents? They have some quirky things that become instant hits (flappy) or this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque that you connect the phone to the cars diagnostic connection obd and has 1 million users at 4.95$ each. With your thinking all if those people would never have got that app and would use the normal regular mechanic tool to read odb errors.
And last but not least your comment was just as long as mine. And i read it, out of respect. If u want i could send you a little like 5 step process on what its all about and a song to go with it that even spells it out. all in fun and respectfully debating of course. I go to school for this stuff, not that u dont or havent but definitely was skipping the day they spoke of 2.4 and 5 and the heat mapping of each.
Which is ok, i was wondering cuz yes i am too cheap/college student to get a pc just for that 5ghz. I needed it to completely do my heatmap as the router is 2.4/5 simultaneously (prepare for that, most of them are these days wont even mention ac) but only seen 2.4. Anyways from the sounds of it you dont like to read long things which explains some things. If u do please know i say all of this in a friendly sarcastic way, with honesty behind it just definitely no disrespect more friendly joking.
Kaffeetrinker said:
Whoaaaa.... Sorry but too long to read...
Maybe THIS will convince you:
1. Almost any phone uses USB 2.0
2. Phone's USB Speed is limited due to the USB speed not being the manufacturer's priority (Ever been annoyed about the slow transfer speed of files to your PC?)
3. 2.4 GHz Wifi already gives you 54 to 160Bit/s.
That's a speed, you'll NEVER get through your USB connection.
Be really happy if you get 40 MBit/s...
4. There are... like no wifi routers which support 5GHz only.
5. There are no Laptops without any wifi except in a museum or in the big spare parts box in my garage.
Who'll buy it?
1. People who don't have wifi in their notebook?
No, they sit in a museum or they just use regular USB tethering.
2. People who want faster network connection?
No, cause it won't get faster.
3. People who are in an area with 5GHz wifi only?
No, 5Ghz only makes no sense due to its bad signal through walls. This just doesn't exist.
4. People with old hardware who have a broken wifi chip in their notebook and who can't afford a dongle?
They would use regular USB tethering. If they can't afford a dongle, they can't afford your app.
5. People with very few space in their pockets, to few to carry a thumb sized wifi dongle?
No, they use Bluetooth Tethering. They probably also have a wireless charging phone cause they also don't like to carry a cable.
6. People who are allergic to Wifi dongles or who are forbidden to buy them by their religion because the dongles aren't approved by their guru whereas mobile phones are?
Nooo, they just use regular USB Tethering. They live in the guru's house, they may not leave it, so no point in having an easier way to change the wifi network. Besides, the only laptop in the guru's home is his own, cause his followers may use the internet only once a week, so one notebook is enough for the whole lot. And Guru is rich enough to have a new notebook with integrated 5 GHz Wifi.
AND FINALLY: HOW OFTEN A DAY DO YOU CHANGE YOUR WIFI NETWORK?
ONCE OR TWICE
Use regular USB tethering and pick your fnjörpliging phone up to change the network, there's absolutely no need to have an app for that!
So, I had very much fun trolling you with facts! I even got to make a joke about a funny made-up religion.
I'm outta here
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Also the internet provider gives you the speed not the 2.4 or the 5. And more importantly the ability to see the 2.4/5 channels is what i was needing which in a setup if you have alot of people connected to wifi by splitting it with some on 2.4 and some on 5 you would have better connectivity vs everyone on the same one. If somebody wants speed and speed alone a dongle, wifi or bluetooth wont even be on their mind , they will be hooking it directly with ethernet as thats the fastest and best option there is.
Also look in this network forum like 4 down it says usb reverse tethering and has like 600,000 views. Read that description and see if you still think this would be useless. With your logic ud have to wonder y they even have a phone in the first place. But its obviously popular. Mind/openit