just wanted to let everyone know this, as there are still plenty of threads out there that suggest setcpu, and it's a waste of time
Thanks dan, where you been stranger?
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so what does it mean? it's doing what setcpu does? what about battery and temperature profiles? what if i want to force the cpu to use a lower clock speed to conserve battery?
I never understood SetCPU myself. The CPU is only used when required, so creating all these settings likely does nothing.
I'd consider it for overclocking, if that was possible.
I was also informed that our phones should do this anyway but I was suspicious of how well it does, being on 1.6 and butchered by SE after all.. it made a good deal of difference before the update.
Trying it without the update now and we'll see how it goes. Completely removed it and power cycled. Will bump in a few days with my results.
I found android got extremely laggy on 1.6 with setcpu. and I use a temp/cpu widget to keep tabs on stock behavior, my cpu sits at 245 most of the time, except when I'm using the phone
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I found android got extremely laggy on 1.6 with setcpu. and I use a temp/cpu widget to keep tabs on stock behavior, my cpu sits at 245 most of the time, except when I'm using the phone
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What widget do you use?
I took a quick look on the Market and AppBrain, and couldn't find anything to track/plot CPU clock to see what the phone's doing while in standby.
I do use SystemPanel, but it doesn't plot CPU clock over time, only usage.
Try advanced task manager it shows cpu speed...
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Try advanced task manager it shows cpu speed...
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I'm not looking for a way to see the speed. SystemPanel will do that. I'm looking for a plot that shows the cpu speed over time, so I can see how and when it changes.
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I'm not looking for a way to see the speed. SystemPanel will do that. I'm looking for a plot that shows the cpu speed over time, so I can see how and when it changes.
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Try Usage Timelines Free or seepu++ (not free and dev seems to have abandoned it)
Edit: sorry I see you want clock speed not usage. I have yet to find an app for that as well.
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so what is SetCPU doing then? draining the battery? or is it affecting the charging process?
and what about the app CoolS? its almost the same thing as SetCPU but the only thing you can do is slow the CPU down
You can use SetCPU to:
1. Overclock (but not on X10)
2. Underclock (you know you go somewhere for 2 days and forgot the charger at home)
3. Make profiles to lower CPU freq when temp is too high
For day by day use, i'm ok with android's ondemand scaling.
use android hackers apk. thereu can see theCPU over time...
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i use setcpu to underclock my X10 to 5xx mhz when the screen is off.
my batt usage is better, from 3-5% per hour to below 2%.
I've been using overclock widget to keep it to 998mhz to see if it would make a difference in quadrant. Recently i uninstalled it and i still get about the same benchmark score.
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Has anyone noticed that the cpu throttles based on its current stress level.
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That's deff interesting. I haven't done much playing with CPU apps because the one time I put setCPU on my Aria it caused all kinds of issues. But that was like three days after the Aria launched so setCPU may support Aria now.
According to Android System Info I get:
480mhz 23.08%
600mhz 76.92%
So it is throttling for sure.
Maybe SetCPU will work now? but I hope it can throttle lower than 480. is there a limit to how low it can go?
All phones throttle in order to save juice. Your phone wouldn't last long at 600mhz. So this won't help with setcpu since the kernel still needs to be hacked. The CPU should clock lower in full sleep mode
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but I hope it can throttle lower than 480. is there a limit to how low it can go?
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It can, my Aria shows it is at 245.76Mhz 95.61% of the time
Android system info shows lower clocks, like 200Mhz, but my Aria hasn't operated at that speed at all.
Shad0wguy said:
It can, my Aria shows it is at 245.76Mhz 95.61% of the time
Android system info shows lower clocks, like 200Mhz, but my Aria hasn't operated at that speed at all.
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That is when your phone is at full sleep. You won't see that speed when the screen is on.
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That is when your phone is at full sleep. You won't see that speed when the screen is on.
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Okay this makes sense then since it was a fresh install and I had yet to put it to bed
I just downloaded Jrummy's Overclocker and i was wondering what are some settings for a safe overclock. im shooting for 1.2
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I just downloaded Jrummy's Overclocker and i was wondering what are some settings for a safe overclock. im shooting for 1.2
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1.2 should be no problem although all phones are different. start with the low voltage at 1.1 make sure the phone is stable. a quick test is to open the browser and load a few pages. a GOOD test is to run quadrant. then just increase the speed until it locks up. pull the battery and set it down 1 or 2 speeds and thats your max stable overclock at that voltage. most people are able to run 1.2 or 1.3 with no issues. i can run at 1.3 with no issues. any higher and after a few days (or less respectively) my phone hangs. Also increasing voltage will yield higher clocks but will drain the battery faster. just play around if the phone locks up just pull the battery. also i would not play with the manual settings until you are familiar with the basic ones first.
I am most stable at 1.25ghz LV. Currently running GummyJAR2.5 with Blueberry Theme.
No issues. I would recomend installing AutoKiller. This is not same as Task Killer. It frees up memory. Same function as the one that comes with Jrummy Overclock but you can customize it more.
auto killer waste battery we have plenty of memory on our phones
so what do you recommend for a jrummy oc? i was thinkin 1.2 on lv
I can only get up to Low volt 1.15 otherwise. Once I click on anything higher i get a MAJOR hanging as soon as its done overclocking. pissed but guess thats just the point that all phones are different.
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I can only get up to Low volt 1.15 otherwise. Once I click on anything higher i get a MAJOR hanging as soon as its done overclocking. pissed but guess thats just the point that all phones are different.
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yup...some people can run 1.4 with no problems...try upping the voltage a little
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auto killer waste battery we have plenty of memory on our phones
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I wasn't a believer until I installed it. My ram use to run low and some times made my DX run slow. Since installing the autokiller, my DX runs smoother, zippier and consistant. I have mine pre-set at extream. As for the battery, I don't notice any difference and I am semi heavy user. I been running Autokiller for a while.
Hey guys, I recommend using QuickClock Advanced for some real battery savings. It calculates the lowest stable vsel your cpu can handle and then you can overclock from there.
my settings
300mhz 15vsel
600mhz 30vsel
900mhz 45vsel
1200mhz 61vsel
I could never get over 1.1 using jrummy untill I changed the gov, use anything but "on demand" and I can get 1.4 all day. The stock settings work well using the "performance" gov but battery life can suffer if you get crazy. Performance keeps it running at top speed all the time. Hope this helps.
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Hey guys, I recommend using QuickClock Advanced for some real battery savings. It calculates the lowest stable vsel your cpu can handle and then you can overclock from there.
my settings
300mhz 15vsel
600mhz 30vsel
900mhz 45vsel
1200mhz 61vsel
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Ive used similar settings and worked fine on my phone running Rubix.
So I have my phone running Ice Glacier 1.1.6 everything is fine but like I see a significant drop in battery from not much use. and it says display is taking most of the battery power. I have auto brightness on and not many widgets.. Any ideas ??
Do as I did change your blacklight settings and don't use auto bright. Then disable some service using 3rd party apps and trust me there is alot of them that you will never use or need so get rid of them from even starting and if it even restarts have it shutdown. I am also using IGv1.1.6 as I flashed it last night and normally comparing it with IGv1.1.5 its better. Also scale your mCPU with SetCPU and when idle underclock it normally its 800mhz on avg load. Don't waste your battery trying to OC it lol just so you can brag about benchmark. Do this 3 you will see improvement, most folks always talk about uptime but we talk about awake time as thats what really matters.
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Do as I did change your blacklight settings and don't use auto bright. Then disable some service using 3rd party apps and trust me there is alot of them that you will never use or need so get rid of them from even starting and if it even restarts have it shutdown. I am also using IGv1.1.6 as I flashed it last night and normally comparing it with IGv1.1.5 its better. Also scale your mCPU with SetCPU and when idle underclock it normally its 800mhz on avg load. Don't waste your battery trying to OC it lol just so you can brag about benchmark. Do this 3 you will see improvement, most folks always talk about uptime but we talk about awake time as thats what really matters.
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i dont understand the SetCPU stuff =/
^^^^BUMPP^^^^^
Set cpu is a program you can download that allows you to change the speed your cpu runs at. U can even make profiles so say when ur battery reaches a certain level it will under clock the cpu to run at a lower level to increase your battery life. It also allows you to overclock your phone to run faster but at a significant loss to your battery life.
Hope that helps.
Oh set cpu isn't free now but there are others on the market that do the same thing that are.
Kevin
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I have set CPU but I don't understand how to operate it
What most ppl do is set a profile to run at the minimum speed when the phone is turned off to increase batt life..also, use a reasonable on demand setting for all other usage..no need to do crazy overclocking if you dont need the power
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For those of you on CM7 (preferably RC2 or later nightlies), are you using SetCPU or the built in CMSettings CPU manager? Which is giving you better performance/battery life?
I can't help but think that the built in CM Settings CPU tuner is going to be conflicting with my SetCPU profiles.
Been using nightlies since #30 or so, and I currently run SetCPU with a normal profile, a screen off profile, and a profile for <10% battery and haven't touched CMSettings' CPU manager.
I'm contemplating just uninstalling SetCPU for a day or two and seeing what a 1017max / 245min Ondemand or Powersave governor via CMSettings ends up doing to my battery life considering there will be no screen off profile.
Any thoughts?
I dumped setCPU after a lot of testing (and even bought it on market)
I'm finding I'm much happier using inbuilt CPU settings. I think battery life is the same but performance is better due to the fact that SetCPU would sometimes get stuck in my screen-off profile when turned on causing the phone to be really slow.
I recomend uninstalling setCPU, set your ONDEMAND governor with ~1Ghz and run it... You'll find your battery about the same but much less hassle.
I have yet to try that, I somewhat feel obligated to use SetCPU since I purchased it lol. But it probably won't be the last time I waste money at the market.
Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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its the same thing :facepalm:
Try the inbuilt one... I think its way easier
I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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Definitely. This is the one thing I like about SetCPU is having the 10% and 5% profiles so that I can get the last few % to last forever if I need it. Although in normal day-to-day use I'm never pushing it below 20%.
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Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
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Yea I see this, as far as the governor changing etc.. This is why I'm wondering if it would be easier on my phone to just run only the CM Settings one.
I notice that every 5th or so time I unlock the phone, there is an obvious lag switching from the screen off profile, and my unlock sliders jitter around and it takes 4-5 tries to unlock the phone. I think this is probably partially due to both settings switching over trying to change.
I think I might try backing up and uninstalling SetCPU for tomorrow to see how it goes.
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I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I'm not sure about CM's kernel with the over-volting but I do know that Pershoots kernel can be overclocked to 979mhz without over-volting (Pershoot told me himself).
At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
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At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted
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Well obviously.... But why the hell would you ever need to be running at 1.8ghz? The fact that you are always using a temp-specific profile method should show you that consistent 1.8ghz isn't good for the phone...
Okay so I uninstalled SetCPU last night and I'm going to run just the CM Settings CPU manager all day to see how it goes. Running like this:
ONDEMAND governor
Min CPU: 245 mhz
Max CPU: 1017 mhz
On nightly #19 also.
Okay so its midnight almost, and I'm at 13hrs unplugged and 52% battery still. Pretty general/light use, phone is just as snappy and the lack of a screen off profile doesn't seem to effect battery at all. Liking it so far! very interesting to see the screen off profile not mattering much.
SetCPU for me. I like to have a temperature and charging profile, to prevent the phone from overheating. Even at 1ghz the possibility exists, nice to have a backup incase.
I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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With multiple tries... If you change the settings on one, it cancels the settings on the other... Maybe it's because you had set on boot enabled on both?
im going to run the CM tuner and uninstall Setcpu and see how it runs. i never thought about this but i do get that lag when i turn my screen on sometimes. im gonna miss having the profiles but ill see how it runs over the coarse of a couple days.
I'm running Bionix V 1.3.2 with the Immortality 2.1 kernel.
What I'm curious about is everyone's preferred overclocking app?
From what it looks like, it comes down to SetCPU, No-frills, Tegrak, or CPU tuner.
No frills advertises doing the overclocking without running in the background- which is appealing.
What are your thoughts?
Im not familiar with anything other then set cpu. I like it because I set up profiles for charging, screen off and temp. Ive used it for a while even when not overclocking, just for the screen off profile.
go with set CPU that's great the profiles really help save battery
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You can use Voltage Control to OC too...
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So it looks like there are a couple of categories the overclocking apps can be divided in to- those with profile management and without, and those for the SGS only.
Profile Management: SetCPU ($1.95), Tegrak ($1.95), CPU Tuner (Free)
Without: No Frills (Free), Voltage Control (Free/$3.84)
Both Tegrak and Voltage Control are specific to the SGS family- why would I want to buy a program that only works with specific phones when I can get a solution that will work with all my future phones?
I know SetCPU is the most commonly used solution, but I keep reading so many complaints in the forums. Does anyone have any experience with CPU tuner in comparison to the others? I'll at least tinker with it when I have time since I'll have more than 15 minutes to see if I like it.
Set cpu is horrible, atleast from my experience.
Constant screen of death, meaning after I lock phone,it won't turn on until reboot.
Instability. Lagged my phone even with oc only up to 1.2
Voltage control is what I prefer.
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Set cpu is horrible, atleast from my experience.
Constant screen of death, meaning after I lock phone,it won't turn on until reboot.
Instability. Lagged my phone even with oc only up to 1.2
Voltage control is what I prefer.
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Sounds like your kernel is not compatible with setcpu =]
Some are not and votage control is preferred.
I'm on MIUI revamped Xx-2 with glitch 11 anf haven't had a problem with setcpu.
Vibrant+MIUI
Setcpu because in the "About? " it has says "Its over 9000! " plus its simple to use.
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Well I'm using voltage control right now because its tailored to the hummingbird and I like the undervolt settings. Once you find the right voltages, your battery will be (more) amazing.
However, I've used setcpu since I've had my htc hero and it works wonders...at first when the galaxy s came out, there were conflicts and setcpu couldn't tune the hummingbird(atleast for the Epic 4g, the Galaxy S for Sprint), but that's since been worked on.
Setcpu is very straightforward. When you start it up, just tap autodetect speeds and it'll have a slider for min/max and yyou just slide it to the appropriate speeds. Then you use "governors" that dictate how the processor clocks...for example, on "conservative" the cpu scales up to the speed it needs to process what you're doing and slows down really fast when not in use. "Ondemand" is basically the same thing, but it scales high up and then lowers itself to the needed speed. "Performance" keeps your cpu clocked at its highest speed and keeps it there. Its good to run performance when you need to run benchmarks or do a lot of stuff on your phone at once, because it kills the battery faster (obviously)
Just try em out...setcpu is free on xda, just look for it in the apps section on android general I think or the g1 boards
Voltage control, be wary about, because if you mess with the ettings and don't know what you're doing, it'll corrupt your phone.
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I like voltage control too and pimp my CPU mainly because SetCpu hardly ever supports the kernels I use and when it does it gives me reboots
Thank you, I'll give Voltage Control a try. Do you have any 'safe' recommended voltage settings when using smartass, and then I'll see the limits of my phone from there?
No sorry idk about the vibrant, but it sould be able to handle the uv since we're both hummingbird
When you use VC, do it one clock speed at a time. The voltage slider moves in -25mV increments. Each processor is different. For example, my phone can handle 1.4ghz unervolted by -50mV but if I put it down one more notch, my phone freezes and its FC galore. So its good to have a backup.
If you're not turned away by the amount of time it takes to tune VC, then it'll be worth it. You just have to thoroughly test the phone each time you undervolt to make sure its stable before you set it as Boot. To test just scroll around and run acouple of benchmarks.
For example, when I started my UV, I started with 1.4ghz and worked my way down to 1.3, 1.2, 1.1, 1.0, .8 and .6 ghz. Slide it to 1400MHz and then slide the voltage bar one notch to the left to uv it by 25mV. Hit apply and then run smartbench, quadrant, neocore, linpack, w/e just to make sure your phone can handle it. If it can, move it one more notch and test it out. Rinse repeat for the rest
Setcpu is way more user friendly and does what its supposed to, but vc is for power users I guess
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If I do recall you could also change the voltages in setcpu. Ya know if your kernel supports it.
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