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I dropped my Universal yesterday. My fault. True.
And now it thinks there is always the headset in, so it's stuck and I can't answer the calls using the phone microphone, just bluetooth. And I can't hear the sms alert.
Again, my fault.
BUT it was already faulty, I had to put something in-out the heasdset hole because the sensor didn't work very well (it's a well known problem).
I should change the mother board, now, and I don't want to spend so much money. :evil:
Also because it happened to me to put the Universal in my pocket and... surprise, the screen was broken (substitution: round 150 Euro). Then I bought also a leather case to avoid this problem in the future.
I used to have a Sony UX50 (unfortunately NOT the Vaio UX50, same name, but it was Palm, not Windows XP) and I kept it with no prob in my pockets, and it fell down several times, surviving!
I'm not saying it should be unbreakable, of course, but my opinion is that a mobile device should be more robust. :?
Mate its all a matter of luck really. Im sure theres users on here like me who keep it in there pocket, who have knocked it around, and who have had some spills with it and theres still works fine. Well mine does. You people though who put them in your pocket and break the scrrens, id love to know what you are doing to have such an impact come down on your leg you break the screen.
Either that or your extraordinarily uncoordinated and walking into poles all day....in any case yours should be more durable, but you got unlucky unfortuntely.
This reminded of two anecdotes.
1) You're right, the sensor doens't work well. On my way to work the headphone jack slipped a quarter of a millimetre while I was listening to hardcore gangsta rap. You should have seen my face rushing for my pocket, desperatly trying to figure out what was happening. Even more shocked where the train passenger, having to listen to the Universal full blast :-D
2) I wouldn't call the the Universal flimsy, but it definitely doens't seem like the kind of device that could handle shocks well. I had 6 nokias and 3 motorolas before, and all 3 motos died (I'm rough with my devices ). The nokias where dropped off buildings and slammed against walls (don't ask) yet kept on soldiering. I would dare to subject the universal to the same treatment.
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I decided to send my babe to Germany, where it came from, trying to resolve the problem.
In the meanwhile, I ordered the Nokia E61, by far an interesting smartphone (and, as you mentioned, Nokia phones are robust!).
My first Nokia, really amazing: wifi, bluetooth, 3g, latest symbian operating system.
If the Universal returns home, maybe I'll keep the Nokia as really "mobile" solution (that is in my pocket) and the Universal for business (taking notes, extensively browsing the web...)
Nokias, robust?
You obviously never had an 8210 lol
My wife and I really liked these phones when they came out so we had one each. We got through on average one a month. As I may have mentioned elsewhere in this forum, my wife doesn't do technology very well, walking into poles, dropping phones in toilets, coffee, beer, and other assorted disasters. I'm very careful with mine yet these 8210s seemed to be made of rice paper.
I'm now on my second HTC unit and the construction seems adequate, but not great. The hinge will be the first thing to go on my Uni, but that won't be because I'm rough with it, it just seems to be a weak point.
JasJar Universal screen broke for no apparent reason.
My JasJar was on a hotel bed. On moment I was playing with it. Put it down. Picked it up in a few minutes and the screen was broken and leaking liquid internally.
In this same hotel My little girl previously pissed on a imate PDA2.
Bad luck places aside. I had nokias 9X00 series the calm shell pda type. Those are much stronger than most HTC stuff.
I mean I paid lots and I mean lots of money for the JasJar, really as far as I know it is THE MOST EXPENSIVE MOBILE WITHOUT REAL DIAMONDS IN IT. And we get a flimsy case. The cover of the LCD is very weak. Very.
Take care of your HTCs.
Really HTC the next JasJar should be stronger and have more ram. Hello, we are buying the most geeky phone, a little more ram will really help. Wimps may be able to live on less ram but someone who buys jasjar would not.
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Nokias, robust?
You obviously never had an 8210 lol
My wife and I really liked these phones when they came out so we had one each. We got through on average one a month. As I may have mentioned elsewhere in this forum, my wife doesn't do technology very well, walking into poles, dropping phones in toilets, coffee, beer, and other assorted disasters. I'm very careful with mine yet these 8210s seemed to be made of rice paper.
I'm now on my second HTC unit and the construction seems adequate, but not great. The hinge will be the first thing to go on my Uni, but that won't be because I'm rough with it, it just seems to be a weak point.
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Just shows how different people can have different experiences. I still have an 8210 and it's by far the toughest phone I've ever had. (admittedly I've got it in a G-shock type cover I found online, but that's been soaked, thrown about, crashed on a motorcycle etc etc and still works fine. (Admittedly it's the 2nd one I had - the screen became faulty on the first).
the good ol 8210s I had mine for so long, actually I had mine for about 1.5 years but then my mum had it for over 3 years. So 4.5yrs out of the one phone and during that time it had been pounded and dropped a hundred dozen times.
Such tiny phones, simple phones. The old days hey.
memories....
Most solid ever would have been my nokia 3310. That thing was shaped like a brick but was also solid as a brick. I dropped it hundreds of time, one time it even went completly under a car! I also threw it away as hard as I could against a wall (I get mad sometimes :evil: ). Well, short of a few cracks in the cover, that phone still works today.
It doesn't resist water though, a friend of mine swam with his ( :lol: ) and the poor thing worked for like a few hours then stopped.
I had a huge fit of anger today and threw my X1 down on the floor. It bounced off the carperted floor, and hit the steel wall of my cubicle. The battery cover flew open and the battery flew out.
The slider is now loose. I went to the SE service center and they said that they've to import a part from Sony to fix my phone.
Luckily no more issues. everything else works fine, no cracks and paint peeling off.
Can I ask the reason you throw your X1 is because of the phone or work? I have a sudden urge to throw my X1 too as it kept hanging on me...
Ouchies!
Hopefully everything works out with parts replacement,
..and whatever you where angry for
Haha... Your story amused me. I'm glad it survived I once threw my cell-phone in rage with full force into a brick wall, drunk, late at the night of my graduation... Hehe. It smashed into pieces. That was ten years ago though, and it was no big loss since it was a big old clumpsy Nokia that hit the dust
Get anger management courses.
wht else, girl problems, can't live with them, can't live without them
Everrything else works fine though, and it'll take 6-7 days for the new part to be shipped. Have to wait till that.
But 1 point i'd like to make, after the most of man handled, not even scratch or a crack... and mine is 08W44.... can anything be deduced from tat?
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and mine is 08W44.... can anything be deduced from tat?
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That it's two weeks older than mine?
Glad to hear it survived mate, I threw an old nokia 6210 at a stone wall back in the day when they were new (same reason as you. women, eh?), and it somehow survived... I doubt my beloved x1 would survive such a collision but I also doubt that I'll let myself get that heavy handed with this phone
I've broken an NEC in half using just my hands.
It all depends on who you're dating I suppose.
Oh, and I've slammed the receiver of a normal cord telephone onto a desk so hard it broke off the whole earpiece. Same girl. Looong time ago.
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It all depends on who you're dating I suppose.
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How true!!! Very true!
next time throw it at the girl [evil face], and see what will break
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joking
(ironic mode: ON)
girls = phones
-at first you love them
-you decide its worth investing
-you achieve expected sattisfaction- or not
-with time they disappoint you somehow
-then *you shoud make up your mind and decide whether to keep or change* because:
there's a lot of phones out there to choose from
there's always a better one coming
(ironic mode: OFF)
- - how can u said like that.
Newer phones are getting better -> fact
Newer girls are getting better -> you did not learn
I seriously started this thread to tell you guys how sturdy the Xperia is, and look at what it's turned into
lmao how very amusing
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I seriously started this thread to tell you guys how sturdy the Xperia is, and look at what it's turned into
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It is because girl issue is more interesting(and exciting) than our sexy X1
if your willing to thow a phone over a girl its time to get a different chick.
now i agree the x1 is very sturdy my phone has taken acouple falls. all of them battery cover and battery came out of the phone it self. the pices were acouple feet apart. minor scratches in the plastic ring around the 3.5mm jack and my batt cover is scratched. my slider is still nice and stiff and i have no peeling plastic, no cracks. have had the phone for almost 2 months and goes through more usage then phone reviewers review phones.
My phone about 2 phones ago hit the wall with max force I remember.
During a night shift, for some reason I had a moment of blind rage
What sucked was that all my contacts was stored on the cell and it was totally destroyed =(
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I seriously started this thread to tell you guys how sturdy the Xperia is, and look at what it's turned into
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Pro tip: Don't throw $800 phones, least of all because of girl problems. In fact, show off the $800 phone to attract more girls (and more girl problems ^^).
As for me, I never throw my phones but it's good to know that it's durable; I always carry my phone in my left pocket, and when I'm skateboarding my left leg is almost always forward (in other words, when I fall I tend to land on it or it will eject from the pocket if I'm going very fast). My SE K550i survived plenty of falls, let's hope that X1's quality construction does the same.
Hello there.
At first, I'm german and this is my school english and i wasn't realy good at school, so i'll try my very best and hope it will be readable.
I have my HD2 now for 5 month so it near to the half year.
As you know it'S not the cheapest thing in the world i had a few moments with it when i thought to myself: "God how stupid was that?".
The first moment i was thinking that was in the first week of using my HD2.
It was in the morning. standing in front of the mirror in the bath i had my hd2 under the mirror runing some music for a better start in the day. It stood upright beacause of the rubber end that i was thinking it will give enough grip to hold it right there. i was brushing my teeth and at the and i turned on the water spit out the crap and then it happend. i thing there was condensate unter my HD2 and the grip was suddenly gone. know you have to imagine slowmotion. my hand goes to the water-tap as i wanted to turn of the water. right in that moment the HD2 slipped off from the frame above the washbowl.it arived in the moment when the water stoped an the last drop was gone. there was my HD2 in the washbowl dry as the desert and looked into my face as it wants to say " you know that was lucky you stupid ashole". And that was exact that what i was thinking right in that moment.
no scratch and not a tiny drop of water on it. that was nearly a miracle.
the second time was very evil. i had to add the fact that i have a cat.
so i thougt, make it save to carge my HD2 and searc the highest point in the house. so i put it on top of my closet. i thought that the cat would never get up there and know the suprising thing in this story. the cat didn't got up there ever. to be true the cat didn't have anything to do with that .
i was in another room and then i heard that sound i never heard before. i never heard it because i didn't know the sound of vibrating HD2 on my hardwood closet. then there was another sound. i think it was the sound of a faling HD2 and the alu cover flewing around the room.
as i got aware of that i went into the room my HD2 was charging and it was on the floor screaming for help. so what happend was i didn't expect that the vibration of a incoming call was that hard, that my HD2 could fall of the closet. so it falls 2 meters down throws the back cover away and that was all. No scatches no broken display nothing. just the back cover falls of. the phone was still ringing and the first thing i said to my mother who was calling : "you nearly broked my HD2". I will never put it on top of anything. from that day on i'll charge on the floor.
so i've had a few moments like this and till today there is nothing broken or scratched. when i clean the disply it looks like fresh out of the box. so i think im the stupidest HD2 user on earth and i'm happy that this thing is the strongest phone i ever had. the first time i think that the mony was good invested.
so what about your storys?
ps.: hope my english wasn't that bad.
Guten tag lokiderelb!
Your English is certainly better than my school German!
I personally have a story from less than a few minutes ago.
I popped the HD2 on my work desk (which is quite smooth and slippery) next to my keyboard, and near the edge of the desk.
I did think to myself it was a bit near to the edge, but the keyboard is in the way, so I can't knock it, right?
What did I do? I knocked it, *with the keyboard* and it bounced off the desk, onto the handle of my chair, onto the foot of the chair, then onto a solid floor.
About a metre off of the floor, with several obstacles along the way
It ended up screen-down on the floor, a wash of fear went through me as a million pictures of smashed HD2s and iPhones* flashed before my eyes, like my life would in a near death experience...
I picked it up, making sure I didn't run it over with my chair (that would be my luck!) and slowly turned it around. Now, you know you get that fear wash through you, and a much better wash of relief? Well I got the latter.
My HD2 is now firmly on my desk, right in the middle!
* (my mate has broken several iPhones like that)
I can hear my heartbeat while reading your story
I wonder where is the limit to get this phone broke.
I saw pictures of broken displays and everyone knows the "knife vs HD2" movie on youtube. (i never will be able to give that a try).
ps.:thanks for the compliment.
I bought one.
hd2
sad stories btw why dont you buy a nice case for your mobile?
I bought one.
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Mhh. I respekt your expirience with HD2 and also could exept your point of view for the HD2 also i can't confirm that opinion , but i realy think this isn't the right thread for this.
do you know what spam is?
sad stories btw why dont you buy a nice case for your mobile?
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there comes a nice thin leader cover with it and most of the time i don't use the hd2 its in there, but to get the hole expirience of this device you can't keep it inside of any case, even it won't be very comfortable.
but my long time expirience with HD2 makes me wonder if i could ever broke it.
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from that day on i'll charge on the floor.
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until the cat knocks the wardrobe over...
lokiderelb said:
Mhh. I respekt your expirience with HD2 and also could exept your point of view for the HD2 also i can't confirm that opinion , but i realy think this isn't the right thread for this.
do you know what spam is?
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With all due respect, just because you dont agree with my opinion, it doesnt make it invalid and it doesnt make it spam.
It was just meant to be a bit of humour about my regret of having purchased this phone.
So than it was ment ironic or some other kind of humor. But it would have been easier to understand with some of these --->
I got over excited on the day got it and nearly bricked it by flashing, funny thing is been flaahing my T/diamond 1 & 2 for ages lol, luckily this website saved my ass
Okay. Here's my story.
I like to listen to music a lot with my HD2. it was after 2 weeks of owning the device, (TMOUS), and I JUST took off the silicone case it came with because it made it hard for me to slip HD2 in and out of my jacket pocket.
Anyways, I was listening to music with the pair of earbuds connected to the device, and I saw this stray cat right in front of me. The cat was friendly for some reason, and started to rub on my legs.
So i bent over to pet the cat.
As I bent over with my arm extended, the earbuds pulled my phone from my pocket, and since I was leaned forward, the phone slipped out!
I haven't experienced that kind of slow motion yet, but it happened. I immediately moved my handto follow the device, but my hands were too slow or far away to save the phone from hitting the asphalt road.
At the last second my foot somehow moved on its own, and broke the fall.
I have a slight scratch on the corner of the phone, but it's pretty concealed with the case.
I'm NEVER taking off the case again.
Put my digital camera back on the desk without really looking... oops, actually on the HD2 that was exactly at the same place. Got 2 scratches on the screen from the screws on the camera bottom, after 3 weeks...
LOL Funny stories. Well, my story is short and it doesn't have a happy ending. I went for a walk and used my 4 day old HD2 as an "MP3 Player". I pulled it out of my pocket and dropped it face down on the sidewalk. CRACK. The glass shattered. The end. The moral of the story is, a touchscreen phone is not a "walkman". One fumble and it's going for expensive repairs.
Funny/sad stories This is for the HD1, so apologies for cheating, but it was still in the last year (October)
I cancelled my phone insurance two months into owning my HD. That very day I left it on an outdoor table with friends for one minute while I popped to the loo. This was the very first time I'd decided not to treat it like a real-life baby, and I paid for it, because I returned to a phone dripping in beer and my friend with a very guilty expression.
It survived almost working for three months, but then I got annoyed and got the HD2
Anyway, anyone want to buy an HD1? It's in excellent condition
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Funny/sad stories This is for the HD1, so apologies for cheating, but it was still in the last year (October)
I cancelled my phone insurance two months into owning my HD. That very day I left it on an outdoor table with friends for one minute while I popped to the loo. This was the very first time I'd decided not to treat it like a real-life baby, and I paid for it, because I returned to a phone dripping in beer and my friend with a very guilty expression.
It survived almost working for three months, but then I got annoyed and got the HD2
Anyway, anyone want to buy an HD1? It's in excellent condition
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lmao!
mine's not too funny it's more of a mystery.. (crazy ninja face)
one day i put the phone in my pocket, nothing special, walking around etc, i took it out of my pocket and the camera glass was smashed to bits
to this very day im still clueless
i guess i need bigger pockets
*eh...
For some reason I double posted on an accident.
Sorry.
Haha that was an awesome story! but cmon, you cant blame your mum for it hehe
I was just thinkin before i read the post that someone will say "i bought one" and lo behold some one did. if you dont like the phone, RETURN IT or give it to me! i wont mind having two hd2s!
i was browsing on the web..
while i waiting the youtube buffer( the internet here so slow....)
i hand on my hd2 and start a movie clip..
i was also charging my itouch with that d*mn broken cable
because of something i want to put back my hd2 on the desk
and i touched that d*mn cable and i get electrocuted
and my hd2 fell to the floor so hard...
since then, i charged my itouch far away from my hd2
sorry for bad english
Bent
I crushed it in the car door. Now the LCD is cracked and the chassis(?) is bent so the battery cover won't fit. Does anyone know if its worth selling it for spare parts (e.g. camera module/buttons/batteries)?
Well, I bought a Case-mate Barely There for HD2 and put it on. And for the 1st time put it off it nearly scratched my HD2 corner. I returned it right away. That's my only sad story
I have a very low to the ground car with low-profile tires.
I had my phone in my lap, and forgot it was there, got up and it just barely flopped to the ground. Flipped it over, the entire screen was shattered. It dropped maybe 12 inches from my pants to the ground.
Just a quick heads up for those who wear their phone in their crotch while they drive.
It will break from one time forgetting to take it out of your lap and into your pocket before you get out of the car. Take it from me.... FML..
Damn, that sucks bro! =[
I must be a lucky guy because I left my phone on my lap while I was driving my dad's truck (2002 Toyota Tundra), and then I forgot it was on my lap when I exited the vehicle. It landed face down, and not a scratch.
Another instance is when I was working out at the gym....again, I left my phone on my lap, and after completing my sets, I quickly stood up, and my phone hit the metal part of the equipment, and the battery door came off, and the battery flew out. Again, no scratch.
WOW!!!
I didn't know a glass screen could shatter!!!
Good info to know.
http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/h...cases-u.s./htc-hd2-defender-series-case-u.s./
had the same problem, dropped from a low height, screen cracked, my problem is I have a Telsta model, you have to replace screen and display (soldered together can't buy individualy) sad
eddyhsline said:
had the same problem, dropped from a low height, screen cracked, my problem is I have a Telsta model, you have to replace screen and display (soldered together can't buy individualy) sad
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most people break the screen when trying to replace it anyways. Probably better to replace both parts together.
It's all relative.
I've dropped my HD2 several times from various heights and so far the phone doesn't have a scratch on it. Once it skid down a couple of concrete stairs but miraculously survived without any damage. I guess I'm just lucky?
i use otterbox defender. in a moving car about 40km/h with window open and holding it outside when suddenly i lost grip and it felt on the asphalt.
the first thing in my mind is about the screen.
no scratch.
Was the phone on vibrate?
Just joking. Thanks for the heads up
Hey thanks guys on that otterbox thing. I might have to try that if they do have such an easy propensity to breaking.
Crazy how mine shattered so easy, and some not so easy.
If its any consolation this happened to a friend of mine - i guess its just bad luck.
people who mess with their phone whilst in charge of a vehicle deserve to crash and suffer terrible injury and / or a slow painful death, so im glad you broke your phone, just a shame you didnt cripple yourself into teh bargain. Whether making a call, or just holding it, you aren't in control of the vehicle, and deserve bad things to happen to you.
Just the opinion of someone who lost a relative to a driver who was 'just checking the time on my phone, officer'.
Glass screen can shatter? WHO WOULDA THUNK IT!?
In other related news, fish do live in the ocean and the sky is definitely blue.
I went through many of those drops with my Diamond. I put it on my crotch while talking on the headset, then got out of the car, unbeknownst that the phone is still on my crotch and BAMM! ate cement... Good thing the Diamond's screen was resistive heh. I take care of the HD2 like a baby now and always have it either on the passenger seat when i drive or put it in the phone holder.
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i use otterbox defender. in a moving car about 40km/h with window open and holding it outside when suddenly i lost grip and it felt on the asphalt.
the first thing in my mind is about the screen.
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WHY???
+1 on what sam said too.......
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people who mess with their phone whilst in charge of a vehicle deserve to crash and suffer terrible injury and / or a slow painful death, so im glad you broke your phone, just a shame you didnt cripple yourself into teh bargain. Whether making a call, or just holding it, you aren't in control of the vehicle, and deserve bad things to happen to you.
Just the opinion of someone who lost a relative to a driver who was 'just checking the time on my phone, officer'.
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For your opinionated and assumptive information, I wasn't driving and talking on the phone, nor was I texting either. I pulled a pack of GUM out of my pocket and the phone had to come out in the process, so before you go wishing I DIAF, maybe you shouldn't assume things that never happen when I drive. Sorry you lost a relative, but I'm not retarded.
yep, hand off the wheel rooting in a pocket, that would count as driving without due care and attention too, except of course it's unenforecable, cos drivers have a whole set of laws all to themselves. I swing an iron bar around and accidentally hit someone and kill them, its manslaughter, a driver picks his nose and slams a half ton of metal into someone and its an unfortunate accident.
Im sorry i unloaded on you specifically, it was aimed at all car drivers (especially the pillock with his phone in hand hanging out of the car, christ, moron).
Even the (comparitively speaking) safe drivers look around, eat food (and gum!), pick their nose, fiddle with the radio, , none of these activities are safe.
How long to take your phone out of your pocket, take the gum out, unwrap it, put it in your mouth? 30 seconds? 30 seconds where you aren't in control of your car, it takes what, 3 seconds to mount the pavement, your car judders, your beloved phone leaps out of your lap, you automatically jump to grab it (studies have already shown people automatically try to grab their phones to protect them during incidents), bang, small child being scraped along the concrete leaving skin and blood in a trail behind your car. What happens? A year or so jail at the most, probably suspended.
So, again, im sorry i leaped down your throat, but for me, ANY story where something bad happens to a driver is good news.
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yep, hand off the wheel rooting in a pocket, that would count as driving without due care and attention too, except of course it's unenforecable, cos drivers have a whole set of laws all to themselves. I swing an iron bar around and accidentally hit someone and kill them, its manslaughter, a driver picks his nose and slams a half ton of metal into someone and its an unfortunate accident.
Im sorry i unloaded on you specifically, it was aimed at all car drivers (especially the pillock with his phone in hand hanging out of the car, christ, moron).
Even the (comparitively speaking) safe drivers look around, eat food (and gum!), pick their nose, fiddle with the radio, , none of these activities are safe.
How long to take your phone out of your pocket, take the gum out, unwrap it, put it in your mouth? 30 seconds? 30 seconds where you aren't in control of your car, it takes what, 3 seconds to mount the pavement, your car judders, your beloved phone leaps out of your lap, you automatically jump to grab it (studies have already shown people automatically try to grab their phones to protect them during incidents), bang, small child being scraped along the concrete leaving skin and blood in a trail behind your car. What happens? A year or so jail at the most, probably suspended.
So, again, im sorry i leaped down your throat, but for me, ANY story where something bad happens to a driver is good news.
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I've been an insured driver for a decade. Never had an accident. NOR even a speeding ticket to speak of. Without taking my eyes off the road, its easy to drive with one hand and take a piece of gum out of your pocket. I don't LOOK off of the ROAD when doing this. Unfortunately some drivers do, and while one deems "safe driving" one thing, obviously another can deem it unsafe by their standards. Simply put, there are a LOT of bad drivers out there. You see them every day talking on their cell phone and using MAYBE 20% of their attention on actually PAYING ATTENTION to driving, so I get your point... but I'm sorry, taking ONE hand off the wheel while still watching the road is not unsafe, and if you cannot change the station in your car, or do simple things without getting into an accident then your license should be revoked. People take it to the extreme. I used to live in Phoenix and in the morning rush hour traffic you'd see women putting on their makeup and curling their FRIGGIN hair in the car. It boggles your mind how someone could deem THAT safe driving, because you should be BANNED from driving if you were to get pulled over or KILL someone for some stupid time-saving choice. If you've gotta do that in the car you might wanna hire someone to drive you to work every day.
So like I said I see what you're getting at and obviously, its a sensitive subject for you but I mean, 10 and 2 not 100% of the time in the car isn't gonna be unsafe if you're still prioritizing your attention & what you can, and cannot take a hand off the wheel for. ONE huge stupid is definitely TEXT/CALLING people. And the aforementioned.
So people, while this isn't a debate thread about texting and driving, moral of the story is.. don't be stupid and use your phone while you drive. I'm just the unlucky bastid that happened to have his in his lap when it shattered to the cement.
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yep, hand off the wheel rooting in a pocket, that would count as driving without due care and attention too, except of course it's unenforecable, cos drivers have a whole set of laws all to themselves. I swing an iron bar around and accidentally hit someone and kill them, its manslaughter, a driver picks his nose and slams a half ton of metal into someone and its an unfortunate accident.
Im sorry i unloaded on you specifically, it was aimed at all car drivers (especially the pillock with his phone in hand hanging out of the car, christ, moron).
Even the (comparitively speaking) safe drivers look around, eat food (and gum!), pick their nose, fiddle with the radio, , none of these activities are safe.
How long to take your phone out of your pocket, take the gum out, unwrap it, put it in your mouth? 30 seconds? 30 seconds where you aren't in control of your car, it takes what, 3 seconds to mount the pavement, your car judders, your beloved phone leaps out of your lap, you automatically jump to grab it (studies have already shown people automatically try to grab their phones to protect them during incidents), bang, small child being scraped along the concrete leaving skin and blood in a trail behind your car. What happens? A year or so jail at the most, probably suspended.
So, again, im sorry i leaped down your throat, but for me, ANY story where something bad happens to a driver is good news.
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Texas has a new "distracted driver" laws in effect. Basically, they can cite you for doing anything that isn't driving. I'm going to have to look it up.
guess it wasn't as far reaching as I thought:
http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=18043
nrfitchett4 said:
Texas has a new "distracted driver" laws in effect. Basically, they can cite you for doing anything that isn't driving. I'm going to have to look it up.
guess it wasn't as far reaching as I thought:
http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=18043
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Yeah, I live in Michigan, and we just started to pass laws. Lots of states have. We just got a "no texting" law. If an Officer sees you on your cell while driving you will absolutely get a ticket every time. I actually think this is a GREAT idea. Maybe we'll save some lives and when a person thinks to get on their phone while driving they'll think twice.
Hi, fella forumers! I'm just wondering: how many of your Defy have lost (or still retain) its waterproofness up to now?
Mine has lost this quality about half a year ago. At first I noticed that there were vapours gathering inside the screen, which would go away if I opened the back lid for a while. But once the micro-USB port totally stoppoed functioning that I wasn't able to charge the battery, so I have to got it repaired. I was told that circuit board has water stains which caused the malfunctioning...
It's actually my seconf Defy, which was bought in Oct. 2011, after I've forgotten my first Defy in taxi... I was pretty satified with Defy at that moment and really value its waterproofness, so I didn't hesitate to buy a second one while there were already a lot of more advanced (but not waterproofing) smart phones on the market. Therefore, its waterproofness just lasted for roughly two years, which is much shorter than I had expected. I thought for at least five years it would be as new as just rolling out of the assembling line every time I washed it under tap water - but it turned out to be not the truth, sadly.
Well, I have to admit that I did wash my Defy regularly - in fact almost everyday, because - well, 'scientists' say that computer keyboards and mobile phones (previously it was traditional telephone) collect more germs, etc. that toilets. So eveytime I was back home, I just put it under the tap water, briefly let the currents to go through it. It shouldn't hurt, right?
Right now my Defy is completely 'hydrophobic'. I no longer dip it in water. I guess I will continue to use it for a year or two. Still, the fact is not up to my high expectation.
So, I would like to see if this is my own unfortune or a normal phenomenon. It's quite critial to know the result because if I do change my mobile phone, I would definitely choose a waterproofing one still. But now my confidence for such phones has been significantly weakened. If new phones repeat this fate after just a couple of years, I don't think it's really meaningful to pay more money for this not-long-lasting porperty.
Maybe the manufacturing technoligy has already advanced - phones nowadays are tougher than their predecessors?
Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?
My defy is waterproof to a great extent, but steam does enter, and sometimes condenses on the inside of the screen, and the camera lens. But under running water/rain no water enters. I once kept it in a bucket of water for some time, and a few drops made it to the edge, or maybe they came from the cover itself. So, it's good enough for me
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Mine lost 6 months back. the rubber round usb port got deteriorated and then came off. Now i cant cover usb port with the lid. cant find it selling anywhere either.
coldfusionhybrid said:
Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?
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Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.
ymyzhifeng said:
Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.
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The Sony may be ip55/57 but its good enough from what I've read. As for Samsung, I didn't suggest it because I don't like how they design things. Its appalling and I feel as if its insulting the consumer with their designs and material finish. Unfortunately, Samsung is one of the very few manufacturers that constantly deliver on 2 other important things (to me); removable battery and expandable storage. Still won't buy from them. But hey, thats just me. As for Lenovo, I have not tried it yet. Personally, I'm looking at the Xperia ZR at the moment if i choose to change (will still keep my Defy+ as secondary if i change ). A review in case you're interested too
Yeah, nano-coating isn't really water-proofing. I find it more like a water resistant protection. Sometimes there are phone models that become popular to the point that accessory makers produce cases that offer some sort of protection against water/dust. Thats something you can look at as well (with caution of course)
Defy is not water proof, it is water resistant. I did never wash it or put it into water and it is still in good condition (bought 06/2011), now with Android 4.4.
I'm replacing it with an XCover2 (IP67 certified) and also there the manual warns to immerse it in water although it has an underwater camera.