[Q] Battery Issue - Flipout and Charm General

Hello everybody,
I just bought my Flipout thought the design was kind of funny !
I am quite happy about it except the screen resolution (but I knew it before the purchase)
I need your help :
after a full charge I run out of battery after two hours of use (not standby), could you eventually help identify what is wrong ? is it because of the apps running in background or because the battery capacity is bad ? (or both )
The apps I am running: nimbuz, gtalk, several mail accounts, that is more or less it.
Another point, I have noticed that on heavy loads the Flipout becomes an oven, have you experienced the same ?
Many thanks for your help,
Bao

baolen said:
Hello everybody,
I just bought my Flipout thought the design was kind of funny !
I am quite happy about it except the screen resolution (but I knew it before the purchase)
I need your help :
after a full charge I run out of battery after two hours of use (not standby), could you eventually help identify what is wrong ? is it because of the apps running in background or because the battery capacity is bad ? (or both )
The apps I am running: nimbuz, gtalk, several mail accounts, that is more or less it.
Another point, I have noticed that on heavy loads the Flipout becomes an oven, have you experienced the same ?
Many thanks for your help,
Bao
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Nimbuz eats battery like there's no two hours from now.

baolen said:
Hello everybody,
I just bought my Flipout thought the design was kind of funny !
I am quite happy about it except the screen resolution (but I knew it before the purchase)
I need your help :
after a full charge I run out of battery after two hours of use (not standby), could you eventually help identify what is wrong ? is it because of the apps running in background or because the battery capacity is bad ? (or both )
The apps I am running: nimbuz, gtalk, several mail accounts, that is more or less it.
Another point, I have noticed that on heavy loads the Flipout becomes an oven, have you experienced the same ?
Many thanks for your help,
Bao
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The other half uses this phone
had the same problem
after a few hours the battery died completely.
I turned off the happenings rubbish and the facebook stuff and everything seems fine now
sadly i cant install any battery monitoring software to work out what was really causing the issue
(as i've actually turned off most stuff on the phone now apart from background syncing)
battery seems fine now
Personally i believe the problem was the whappenings widgets on the home screen and the battery conditioning

Hello
right ! I suspect the data exchanges could be the reason
we could also diminish the frequency of 'mail checking'

I was actually thinking of getting a second battery or making a usb charger with AA batteries for this, something like that, so I could use it how I want and extend battery life

nixonpjoshua said:
I was actually thinking of getting a second battery or making a usb charger with AA batteries for this, something like that, so I could use it how I want and extend battery life
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O bought a couple of those to try out, search dealextreme.com for emergency changers.[/url]

yes i have the same problems. if it is payg u can only xchange 4 same phone and no refund either been into orange and enquired. cooked a lovely bacon and eggs on it though.

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freemanquna said:
do any one know which radio is stable and consume less energy?
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I'll leave it to others to give advice on which radio to use. It might be worth installing danielherrero's (one of our own developers) bandswitch application http://www.commmgrpro.com/ You could use this to limit phone to certain bands only with an easy interface. Would allow you to check out exactly what is causing the drain on battery.
Mike
thanks for helps
Sorry, got me stumped. So with no radios on the consumption is double that when wifi is on!!
Let's see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Mike
infinite loop perhaps??
What ROM/Radio versions are you running? EDIT:: seen the ROMs, perhaps try updating to a newer dopod ROM??
Also what 3rd party apps have you got installed??
(RESCO was a ***** for doing this to my TyTN)
the exact same thing happens to me. i've charged it completely, it obviously got really hot. usually at this point, i would take out the battery and let it cool off before turning the phone on, otherwise it would get even hotter and eat 300+ mA and drain the battery fast. this time i opened the wi-fi connection and immediately the battery status dropped from 332 mA to 130, and stayed down there. the phone even cooled down a bit. after i've turned off the wi-fi, it started draining and heating again. what can i do? is it a software or hardware problem? i'm using schaps 4.31, 1.47.30.10, have google maps, palringo, opera, tcpmp installed
I have the same behavior, too.
But not yesterday evening. After restarted it for the xxx time it staid at 28mA. This was so until I left the train in the morning. It went up to 347mA and I am not able to get it back to 28.
I am using the default HTC ROM "HTC_TyTN_GER_3.54.257.2_103_6275_1.47.00.10_108".
I also tried several other ROMS (Schaps, Pays ...) and different radio versions as "HERM_Radinly_1.16.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.10_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.30.10_CustomRUU" and "HERM_Radinly_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU"
but none of them helped me out.
I also done the Exchange Server trick, deactivated 3G and even deactivated all GPRS or EDGE possibilities from provider side.
demichef
Phone gets hot
Hi,
I am not an expert but I had the same problem with my phone, I solved the problem by moving some software I had on my storage card to the internal memory, (in my case it was the encryption and additional language support software I had)
Another way is to look for the Power management tweak in this forum which helps to manage your storage cards power draining,
Sound strange but it worked for me.
Good luck
Hi,
the new battery has arrived.
There is no change in battery draining
What I recognized is, that if the battery is "cold" the power consumtion is around 28mA. But after a call it is getting warm and uses 10 time so much of power.
Please don't laugh now:
I put the battery inside my freezer for 5 minutes. Put it back inside the mobile ...
... 28mA.
If I keep it cold it stays fine for 3 days.
There must be any solution on that.
demichef

x01ht hot Problem

Hi all,
I got a problem about my x01ht. After I used my phone(talking more than 10mins), it is very hot and the battery is dumped very fast.
Please help and what can I do now!!!!!
Thank you very much!
my rom information:
OS ROM: 1.23.708.4
ROM ROM:1.40.30.00
Thanks again.
asachan said:
Hi all,
I got a problem about my x01ht. After I used my phone(talking more than 10mins), it is very hot and the battery is dumped very fast.
Please help and what can I do now!!!!!
Thank you very much!
my rom information:
OS ROM: 1.23.708.4
ROM ROM:1.40.30.00
Thanks again.
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It just depends how quickly the battery is draining. It will get hot on a call over 10 mins but your battery should last at least 10 hours. So is it draining faster than that?
Mike
mikechannon said:
It just depends how quickly the battery is draining. It will get hot on a call over 10 mins but your battery should last at least 10 hours. So is it draining faster than that?
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for replying me. In my case, the battery is draining within 30mins from 100% to 0%. Would you have any idea about the problem?
Thanks!!
asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for replying me. In my case, the battery is draining within 30mins from 100% to 0%. Would you have any idea about the problem?
Thanks!!
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Hi asachan
Well that is decidedly not normal. I have seen a few reports here on this problem. A search might show some results I have not tried so far. However, I would do the standard things initially:
1 Remove and reinsert the battery
2 Hard Reset.
If the problem persists and you have a warranty then use it.
If you have no warranty then a detailed search here on rapid battery drain or words to that effect might reveal something.
You may find some people suggesting flashing a new ROM, but check the basics first. In particular, it may be a battery problem so worth checking that.
Mike
the battery should not be drained so quick......
after 2~ hour HSDPA web browsing
then I 've made a few calls (about 15 mins in total)
Then I have a call for 1hr 05mins
I still have 30% remain
takaki said:
the battery should not be drained so quick......
after 2~ hour HSDPA web browsing
then I 've made a few calls (about 15 mins in total)
Then I have a call for 1hr 05mins
I still have 30% remain
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
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Hi
If you do a hard reset and the problem is still there then I would use your warranty to get a replacement. If you have no warranty it is more complicated and expensive. It might be the battery or it could be a circuit problem - one relatively cheap the other expensive. You could try flashing another ROM but that might have no effect.
Mike
mikechannon said:
.....You could try flashing another ROM but that might have no effect.
Mike
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A thing ive noticed is some radio versions can also cause a fair battery drain.. (aswell as 3rd party apps...but a HR would eleviate that problem).. Id try a radio upgrade before resorting to the warranty route??
mrvanx said:
A thing ive noticed is some radio versions can also cause a fair battery drain.. (aswell as 3rd party apps...but a HR would eleviate that problem).. Id try a radio upgrade before resorting to the warranty route??
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Hi mrvanx,
I would like to ask which radio rom is better.
Thanks.
Hi Mike,
Thank you very much your reply! The problem is I have no warranty. Also, I tried to exchange the battery with my friend's one. But I still got the problem.
So, I think it could be a circuit problem more than the battery problem. Now I wish WM6.0 can improve my problem. I am waiting the chinese version of WM6.0 now.
Thank you very much! ^_^
All The Best
First off try following my Radio Upgrade Guide, then see what effect that has on the battery life?
asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
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Hi asachan,
I have exactly the same problem.... I can pull out battery, then insert it let's say after some hours, then I measure battery current to normal 40ma with radio on, full brightness. And it can be like this for a long time, but usually not long at all, maybe 1-10 minutes, or maybe if I get a call, and suddenly the TyTN starts wasting the battery with currents 300-400ma. I use ACB Power Meter for this. If phone is in my pocket and it starts getting hot, I immediately have to save my battery by powering it off, either by pulling out battery of pressing pwr switch for 5 sec. I am using WM6, have tried most latest versions, and have tried many radios, problem not resolved yet. My phone has been like this from I got it like 2 weeks ago, and I went to the store and requested a new battery but that was not the problem. My first battery went to 0%, big problem to recharge, had to kickstart it with some AAA batteries in serial, huh. Now I have to watch battery all the time, it's a hopeless situation. Will try latest radio 1.43 to check if there's any improvements. If I get a good WM5 I may try that as well, but I do not want that since I like WM6.. if I can only get this device to work normally. Btw, I've also experimented with Bandswitch application to see if that helped, but did not get any further on that neither... next thing is maybe to switch off radio unit, and by the help of an antenna and spectrum analyzer measure if this thing is really readiating something anyway.. I'll do this at work one day I am not so busy maybe. All in all I was very exited to get this TyTN finally, but so far it's been a huge disappointment, it may be a HW error, so if I can't solve it I may have to find some WM put into it and give it back.
@fas73
I see on another post of yours that you have flashed several radio ROMs and with no success.
My gut feeling about this is that the power consumption is so extreme (and this continues even after a hard reset) that it is not something that flashing a ROM (radio or otherwise) will fix. I do appreciate that different ROMs have benefits in terms of power consumption, but this seems so extreme that I am not convinced it's going to be solved by this method, as there seems a strong possibility of a harware problem.
However for those stuck with no warranty, I would follow MrVanx advice and guides.
Mike
Yes, I may have to put this problem into the category "HW error", but the funny thing is that my phone behaves normally when I do this: leave it on and fully charge it, then remove battery for some hours, then start it. Doing this it will always have a normal 30-40ma power consumption, but once battery gets lower or warm during some calls, the phone can get into the high-power-consume state.. I am using Radio 1.43 now and my feelings are it's working better when fully charged, but problem is still present.. I'll see what I'll do..
Just an update to the problem with my HTC TyTN. I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
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Just an update to the problem with my HTC TyTN. I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
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Pleased you now have one that behaves itself
And yes, you're right none of us should jump to conclusions about the source of the problem. An example of this is the "fading to white screen" problem. I have seen several examples where folks have purchased a new screen but the problem remains.
My very simple rule is that if after a hard reset or two, the problem remains, it's likely to be a hardware problem. (there are always exceptions though, and that', amongst other things, is what this community is for.
Mike

Do HD2 Batteries fail quickly when they go?

I've always read the thread about battery life problems on here thinking "Thank **** mine doesn't have that problem" - luckily since I bought mine in December the battery has been quite impressive really.
But a few days ago it suddenly started losing power VERY fast. I'm talking about 10%/hour even on standby, so I undid changes I'd made recently and it made no difference.
Then I read through loads of other threads on here from people who had poor battery life on their phones to look for clues/solutions.
It seems that the responses are (understandably) fairly consistent, eg:
check for stuff running in task manager
remove changes recently made to the phone/uninstall recently added apps
make sure your data/wireless etc isn't doing stuff it shouldn't be
turn off automatic updates
turn down the screen brightness
check activesync
do a hard reset
upgrade your radio rom
etc
All of these of course make sense and are useful suggestions, but it seems there are a good few cases where doing these things don't help, ie you check out the different potential causes and none appear to be responsible. And in the case of sudden poor battery performance you can't point the finger at the rom/screen brighness/auto updates if they are only doing the same as they have been for ages without issue.
So is there a genuine case for the batteries just suddenly 'going weak'?
I've resorted to a hard reset on mine last night after assuming something had got corrupted hence why I could not find the cause of the sudden battery weakness.
But it hasn't helped - it's still dropping approx 10% each hour while on standby, even on a basic install, without even all the apps I normally have.
To me therefore it logically has to mean a failing battery if a hard reset does not help - or can anyone argue why that might not be true? The only exception I can think of realistically is a hardware fault with the phone.
Have ordered a new standard one anyway, and a hicap 'bulge' battery, so I'll post up if the new one cures it. Quite a few battery threads seem to have no conclusion, so ultimately they're not all that helpful in those cases.
How many other people have had issues like this where the battery life has rapidly gone downhill and a new battery has solved the issue?
Also, has anyone done any tests on their 'dodgy' batteries to see if they are indeed going bad or if it's the phone at fault? For instance (really basic I know) if I were to hook up a light bulb to the battery and measure how long it lasts before it goes dim, then compare it to the results from a new battery, would that be worth trying?
If that's the case it's p1ss poor that a state of the art phone can't even go 6-7months before the battery is junk!
I understand and appreciate that li-ion cells only have a certain number of charge cycles (like most rechargeables) but this takes the cake!
My old XDA orbit is years old, still has its original battery, and that has not deteriorated by any noticeable amount, so these shouldn't either.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688496
and let me know if the new battery fixes the problem. I think the batteries might be crap and prone to failing early.
Thanks for the link - sounds exactly the same as my issue.
Hopefully the new battery packs will sort it but that's shocking quality control or product design/testing if these are failing so quickly.
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
Enchanter said:
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
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Yeah right. But that has not solved the problems with the 6 month old phone.
What i have not read in the post of Cret is that you took the memory card out and see if that improves battery life. a corrupt file on the memory card causes a huge drain.
try because that also happenns suddenly e.g. after been connected to a computer and not disconnecting properly.
That's a damn good point actually - thanks. I had seen that mentioned in other battery threads yet somehow completely forgot to try it.
I will try and see whether it makes any difference - cheers.
If that should turn out to be the cause of the problem how do you resolve it?
To elaborate - I don't imagine you can easily identify which file would be the culprit, without formatting the card and adding the files back one by one and testing for the fault to re-appear. That's totally impractical, almost impossible with the number of files you can fit on a 16gb card, and the time it would take to carry out that process, so what do you do?
Or is it possible that simply copying them off the card, formatting it, and pasting them back would somehow resolve the issue.
Enchanter said:
change , Toshiba Tg01 , its better , im using 2 of thems , hd2 and Tg01
made by Japan is better than Taiwanese ,
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How pointless.
wilcovh said:
Yeah right. But that has not solved the problems with the 6 month old phone.
What i have not read in the post of Cret is that you took the memory card out and see if that improves battery life. a corrupt file on the memory card causes a huge drain.
try because that also happenns suddenly e.g. after been connected to a computer and not disconnecting properly.
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Doesn't this usually result in filesys.exe spiking up to 100% (or just high) CPU usage, though? It isn't doing this on mine, although I'll give it a shot without the SD card. I would expect better battery life without an SD card in anyway, but nothing dramatic.
Cret, let me know if your new battery sorts the problem so I know to buy one myself!
the battery do this only a the begining but after 6 monthes of use it becomes better day after day
hoss_n2 said:
the battery do this only a the begining but after 6 monthes of use it becomes better day after day
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What are you talking about? Again, you enlighten a thread with useless information. You can clearly see the OP has had the phone for 6 months (as have I) and the battery is failing (as is mine).
Plus, your battery must defy the laws of physics if it gets better day after day. Interesting.
Cret said:
If that should turn out to be the cause of the problem how do you resolve it?
almost impossible with the number of files you can fit on a 16gb card
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What you can try is put the memory card in a card reader and run checkdisk on the card. see if that identify's any problems on the file system
beside of that it seems that the HD2 has problems with 16GB cards, at least quite a few of them. read through the posts.
Id suggest to collect more data about the problem.
The program BattClock lets you check the battery drain in mA. A normal drain for the HD2, with no processes keeping the CPU awake, is 4mA in standby, with only the radio being powered to receive calls.
So, since the battery current value isn't update instantly, right after you wake up form stanby battclock should be showing 4mA (max6-7mA or something lik that) fora few seconds. If that's not the case, and if the drain is way higher than that, then it may be the case that the phone for some strange reasons is draining more current than it should, and it's not a real battery fault.
I had a similar issue, solved it by disabling auto backlight. Set it at 30% and all good since then.
Well, I thought there had been a slight improvement over the weekend with this battery issue but this morning on standby the phone dropped 3% in a matter of 5 or 10 minutes on standby.
So I removed the mcirosd card and in nearly 3 hours since then it has dropped another 4%. That's a big improvement and does hint that the card is the fault, but it's too early to be sure about that. I've put the card back in to see if it begins to drop fast again. If so I'll take it out for longer and monitor it again.
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What you can try is put the memory card in a card reader and run checkdisk on the card. see if that identify's any problems on the file system
beside of that it seems that the HD2 has problems with 16GB cards, at least quite a few of them. read through the posts.
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Good idea. I wasn't aware that the phones had problems with cards this size. What about with 32gb ones (not that I can afford one!)?
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So, since the battery current value isn't update instantly, right after you wake up form stanby battclock should be showing 4mA (max6-7mA or something lik that)
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I did use battlog briefly, but just to keep an eye on the current current amount in use and it was fluctuating a lot just with the phone awake but running no apps. Sometimes it after waking it the phone would show a low figure like you quote but other times not.
I haven't checked batlog out fully in terms of what it's capable of, but what would be great would be an app that can log the current use like that does, but at the same time also log a list of which processes/services/applications are running, then that could REALLY give some useful info.
Eg the log shows normal current use, then spikes upwards when a specific process begins to run.
Cret said:
I haven't checked batlog out fully in terms of what it's capable of, but what would be great would be an app that can log the current use like that does, but at the same time also log a list of which processes/services/applications are running, then that could REALLY give some useful info.
Eg the log shows normal current use, then spikes upwards when a specific process begins to run.
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make a request for this feature in battclock's thread
The author seems to be quite open to useful suggestions (I, among others, suggested the log-to-txt feature )
Would be a good idea - I like BattClock I must admit. Nice to have the taskbar info like it does.
Ok, later on in the day, it's worked out that it's used 35% battery in approx 3.5 hours of standby - pretty horrendous. Equates to about 10.5 hours (very roughly) battery life on standby. I've checked periodically during this 3.5 hour period and the drop has been steady.
With the card removed, it went 3 hours and only lost 4%, meaning approx 77 hours of standby time at that rate.
Quite a difference between the two.
So at this point it very much looks like there is a fault relating to the memory card.
I'll try some testing tonight. Mainly that will mean I'll first do a filesystem test as suggested. Then delete all the media files, cut the remainder of files and paste them elsewhere, format the card then paste them back, and see how it then behaves.
So it seems now that buying new batteries (and almost slagging off the HTC one) was slightly hasty, but they'll still be really useful, so I'm not at all bothered about that.
Try putting the blank card in, with nothing on it. Would be interesting to see how much juice it draws just having a card in there without reading anything from it.
I have the same issue.
My HD2 worked like a charm, only around 12% battery drain in 24 hours (I could carry it around on standby for one week before recharging).
Now - it sucks around 3% per hour. After one day, I'm at around 25% charge
At first I thougth this was related to Co0kie's Home Tab, but even after hard-reseting, it still drained battery as hell.
At the moment I'm running it without memory card (4GB Kingston) to see if this might be the issue...
I've run a CHKDSK on my memory card just in case, but the filesystem's fine. Any update, Cret?
Well, I'm sure mine was caused by the card, or at least a fault that related to it (ie possibly a file rather than the card itself).
Since I removed the card the battery life returned to normal, so I formatted it, and then copied some of the content back onto it again. It has been back in the phone for a little while now and has been behaving quite well. Basically for instance it's at 77% now at 10.30pm after being removed from the charger around 8am. I haven't used the phone much except to check emails a few times, read a few texts, and go online a couple of times/read RSS feeds a little.
So I'm fairly happy with that.
BUT - not having had the chance to use the phone much (ie mess about) since I formatted the card, I just found that the phone thinks there is no card inside it at the moment for some reason!
I removed it and the PC can read the card and its contents no problem but the phone cannot see it. The only reason I can think of for this is that I formatted the card as NTFS instead of Fat since it's meant to give faster performance, but is it possible that the phone itself does not support this format?
Since it's not working at the moment I'll have to try wiping it and changing it back to fat again.
Yes I have tried rebooting it also.
Next thing is th double size replacement battery I bought arrived the other day. The battery fits ok but the replacement cover that came with it does not fit properly at all.
The cover clips in ok on the side of the volume buttons, but no matter what I do it just hangs loose on the opposite side so I can't actually use the bloody thing since the battery will just fall out like this. Really not happy at all about this.
This is the one I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Extended-2400...eBatteries&hash=item5d2925ce91#ht_1862wt_1137
I think I will be trying to return this for a full refund since there appears to be a design flaw. Normally I would attempt to make something like this fit properly myself but if I failed then I'd have a piece of junk that I could neither use nor return so I think better just to return it without messing about.
It's a shame as the cover actually looks like it should fit perfectly, and seems to fit very well, it's just that it fails completely to latch in place on one side, as if the clip bit is not long enough perhaps.
What concerns me slightly at the moment
Just reformatted the card as Fat instead of NTFS and loaded my files back on and it works now.
So I'll update in due course once I've been using it loaded up again.

[Q] Basic phone (long battery life)

Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
dalapigi said:
Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
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Hello,
That is actually quite interesting, but the first time I have heard of such a query in the 9 months this phone has been released.
Just out of interest, have you tried running the phone with just the standard WM interface to see how long the battery lasts?
Alternative solutions:
1 - You could always try wind-up, or solar charger.
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
fred_up said:
Alternative solutions:
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
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could u really do that? </3
@fred_up
Those are nice ideas ! (Infact I've lost my cheap phone recently)
Morpheus, what you mean is WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
dalapigi said:
WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
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you can turn Sense off in Settings/More/Today,
and according to BattClock power consumption on my Leo (YMMV) is:
Sense: 100-300 mA
Windows Default: 42 mA
Turning off sense would give you a noticable amount of battery life......
The sense interface is a hungry hungry beast........
The linux idea is nice but the problem is that it would be running on top of windows and therefore not save any battery.........
Luckily I still have my trusty (4 days without a charge) N95........
The old girl still comes in handy...
D4rkSoRRoW said:
could u really do that? </3
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Whenever I break my good phone I just use a T-mobile PAYG phone until I can order a new phone. Or if I'm going camping or biking or something.
nice i will try to disable sense ! thanks for this tip
about linux, i believe i read that wm is completzly shut down when launching android (it only serves as a trigger ?)
Running SPB Mobile Shell, I lose 1% of battery life every 3 hours on standy. That's with data and wifi turned off and just the phone running. That would give me about 300 hours of standby time. In theory that should last you a week with a few short calls.
Problem with Android/Ubuntu on this phone right now is you have to run it off the sd card, which draws a lot more power. Whenever the screen is on it draws a lot of power anyway. The best I've done so far is 6% drain over 8 hours with just the phone running in standby.
The most obvious/best solution for you is to just bring an old dumb phone instead or as backup. Then you can just slip the sim card out and use that to make/receive calls.

[Q] Need help figuring out how to improve battery life of my HD2!

Hey guys. sorry if theres a thread like this already. im new to this forum and searched for nearly 3 hours but didnt find much of what i was looking for.
i have a t-mobile 1024 Hd2 with a custom windows mobile ROM LEO_firestorm_v7.4.23135-FX
and a android ROM (installed to SD)
mattcfroyo 1.5
and i also have setcpu installed. the phone(and both rom's) work great. the only issue is the battery life. my phone even when i would barely use it would maybe make it about 12 hours on a charge(doing very little web browsing, turning wifi/ bluetooth off when not in use, brightness around 30%). what have you guys done to get better battery life? should i install different ROMS? is there a WM rom that is basically barebones so it takes less resources and improves battery life? i dont care what the WM side looks like as i only want to use android anyways. i want to use Android as my main OS and how should i setup setcpu? really sorry if this thread is a repeat. if there is another asking exactly what i am please give me a link. im very new to this, so guides are very appreciated aswell.
i did find the thread "HOW TO: Wipe Battery stats to improve battery life" and ill be trying that. what i mainly want to know is how to guys have your roms and setcpu setup.
links to better roms/guides etc. are very appreciated. thanks allot guys.
any rom needs to be compatible with the 1024 hd2 though.
Hi and welcome to XDA,
I've my phone set up as shown in my signature. I don't use bluetooth, basically have no calls, some texts and fairly heavy browsing (web, tapatalk pro, newsrob pro) when I'm on the train. I have a 3mA-5mA drainage in standby. My phone will last 10-12 hours on a charge, after which I have to plug it in. I'm kinda used to it now, but last week I thought I'd give UltimateJuice a try. My phone lasted a little over 17hrs, though I probably used it a bit less intensive that day. The days after I got about 14-15 hours a day with regular use.
I have JuiceDefender installed, which also manages cpu speed. Basically it allows the cpu up to 614 Mhz when the phone is sleeping and 1190 Mhz when awake. Screen brightness is set to 15% currently. When I'm at home, JuiceDefender switches WiFi on automatically, when I'm outside it connects to 3G every 15 minute during 1 minute (adjustable).
Drainage is still somewhat heavier compared to WM, but I can live with it.
Sincerely,
Mac
looks like i found a solution today. last night i underclocked my cpu to 700mhz and i have not seen any performance difference and the battery is lasting allot longer. i have been using it moderately and the battery has gone down 8% in 3 hours of use which is already allot better than before.
i checked my battery power and after it was fully charged it showed 4.2mah so i knew that wasnt the problem. does anybody have the problem that their contacts(in android) are removed if they soft reset their phone? and if so does saving contacts to sim work to fix it? thanks
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does anybody have the problem that their contacts(in android) are removed if they soft reset their phone? and if so does saving contacts to sim work to fix it? thanks
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No, that doesn't sound familiar. Are you syncing your contacts with your Google account?
Sincerely,
Mac
Sent from my reborn HD2 using Tapatalk Pro
no i just manually put in a few to my phone. does saving contacts to sim work in android on the hd2?
adrenalinechild said:
no i just manually put in a few to my phone. does saving contacts to sim work in android on the hd2?
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yes it does, but why don't you have all your contacts sync with google?
roloracer said:
yes it does, but why don't you have all your contacts sync with google?
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backup everything before you do this though. it's known to cause crash at startup and you won't be able to use your android again.
im having a problem with my hd2. i made a call today. and all the incoming voice sounded like a decepticon. kinda cool but definately not useful to actually talking to a person. what should i do to fix this? is it the rom i am using?
adrenalinechild said:
im having a problem with my hd2. i made a call today. and all the incoming voice sounded like a decepticon. kinda cool but definately not useful to actually talking to a person. what should i do to fix this? is it the rom i am using?
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it's a known issue. read the faq.

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