g2.... my opinion, what about yours? - G2 and Desire Z General

so i got the g2 around 3 days ago, overall the phone is just amazing, i love the design and more, here's a list of what i love:
design
materials used are perfect!
when keypad closed it feels sturdy, heavy, i love that!
a "pure" version of droid, fast good looking, love it!
excellent battery life ( im a heavy texter, internet user and i can still get a full day with no recharging )
BLAZING FAST!, internet in hspa+ is ridiculously fast, and the entire experience of the phone is fast as well
what i hate:
hinge design.... the phone has a little play and when keyboard open, it feels flimsy.
a crap load of apps that can't be uninstalled
only 1.2 gb of usable memory instead of the 4 promised.
so what do you guys think? i would give this phone an 9 out of 10, to me is the best android device out there, and it will be that way for a good time, opinions?

You should probobly get this moved to the "Tmobile: Vision G2" forum.

juanshop said:
so i got the g2 around 3 days ago, overall the phone is just amazing, i love the design and more, here's a list of what i love:
design
materials used are perfect!
when keypad closed it feels sturdy, heavy, i love that!
a "pure" version of droid, fast good looking, love it!
excellent battery life ( im a heavy texter, internet user and i can still get a full day with no recharging )
BLAZING FAST!, internet in hspa+ is ridiculously fast, and the entire experience of the phone is fast as well
what i hate:
hinge design.... the phone has a little play and when keyboard open, it feels flimsy.
a crap load of apps that can't be uninstalled
only 1.2 gb of usable memory instead of the 4 promised.
so what do you guys think? i would give this phone an 9 out of 10, to me is the best android device out there, and it will be that way for a good time, opinions?
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9 out of 10 is about just right. or maybe 8.5 at the moment, just missing full root access, and a front face cam. if it did then perfect 10!

Bzerk1 said:
9 out of 10 is about just right. or maybe 8.5 at the moment, just missing full root access, and a front face cam. if it did then perfect 10!
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i couldn't agree more! in fact, i was waiting for the mytough 4g... but i tried it at the store and it was just.... i dont know it wasn't my favorite, it feels cheap, and just not good, plus the ui is awful... is perfect for a 14-15 year old
so anyone else want to comment?

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i couldn't agree more! in fact, i was waiting for the mytough 4g... but i tried it at the store and it was just.... i dont know it wasn't my favorite, it feels cheap, and just not good, plus the ui is awful... is perfect for a 14-15 year old
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Hey, that is mildly offensive. I was 15 until not too recently, yet I completely prefer the G2.

I'm sure he means the stereotypical 15 year old.
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I find the mytouch 4g pretty immature in the user interface as well. The g2 design is top class, I can not find a better phone with similar or better materials other than the nexus one. Kind of reminds me of the g1 and the mytouch 3g, I thought the mytouch 3g was so ugly compared to the g1, kinda like how the g2 and mytouch 4g is today. (I even took the g1 instead of the mytouch when the mytouch 3g was out 2 years ago despite better hardware) Might just be me though.

no intent to offend hahaha but yeah just the stereotypical 15 year old that really doesn't know his stuff with phones and thinks that the ui is so pretty and butt kicker and has facebook app and twitter and is just kewl... lol
g2 i think is the choice as now for android phones.... i just might say is the best one out there for now, talking hardware and software wise. in one word is just sexy as hell LOL

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Played with the Incredible at Best Buy today

I played around with the HTC Incredible for a few minutes today.
- I did not like the look and feel (ID) of the Incredible nearly as much as I thought I would. It looked and felt cheaper than the N1. The shape is boring and the all glass/shiny front does not look good. I am much more pleased with the look and feel of the N1.
- The software shortcut buttons (back/menu/home/search) work quite a bit better on the Incredible compared to the N1 with less chance of an unsuccessful press.
- I didn't notice a huge difference in the touchscreens like I had read about. I didn't try the multitouch test.
- Scrolling between home screens didn't seem as fast as my N1, but I am running a custom ROM and kernel on the N1.
- I like the trackball on the N1 a lot more than the optical sensor on the Incredible. It wasn't very smooth rubbing your finger over the optical sensor. The interface between the sensor and the phone casing was a little rough. The trackball is definitely smoother.
Overall I am happy having an N1 and, if it ever existed, I have lost all Incredible envy.
I'm in Canada so I'll most likely never see one of these guys.
How much were they selling for no contract at Best Buy?
I felt the exact same when I looked at it, in fact, I hated the optical track pad also, n1 scrolled wayyyyy faster with it, and pushint it in is hard on the incredible, but Still I welcome it to the family
I love the trackball. I don't know why so many don't like it. optical track pad just seems like it would be a pain.
I found a trick for the nexus track ball, if you just give it a super hard swipe, it will go clear across an entire sentence me text in one swoop. I see people complain its too slow but its not if you give it a really fast swipe.
I just played with the incredible this morning. first thought is the track pad is horrible compared to the track ball. no matter how fast I swipe my finger, it only moves the cursor a few letters. the nexus track ball will move an entire sentence, like 7 words, if you give it one fast swipe.
the incredible is very light weight, but it just feels plasticky compared to the nexus. the nexus feels like a high quality appliance to me, no contest imo.
the speed of the OS felt pretty much the same. I'm running stock ROM on my nexus, not yet rooted (but I will soon enough!).
overall I can't believe anyone would even feel remotely bad about having the incredible released with slightly better specs, the nexus seems like the better phone to me in every way. the one thing I would like is the dual led flash. I don't care about the 8 gb memory or 8 mp camera one bit. but the extra flash would be nice for those random times when you need that photo in a bar or something, cause the nexus single led isn't very good.
ill take the dual mics over the dual flash though
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overall I can't believe anyone would even feel remotely bad about having the incredible released with slightly better specs, the nexus seems like the better phone to me in every way. the one thing I would like is the dual led flash. I don't care about the 8 gb memory or 8 mp camera one bit. but the extra flash would be nice for those random times when you need that photo in a bar or something, cause the nexus single led isn't very good.
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The only people who feel bad about the Incredible being slightly better are the whiners.
IE the people who weren't happy with the Nexus One even without any other similar device having been announced yet.
NO PHONE is perfect.
Case in point: The Incredible, despite having slightly better hardware, feels cheap and is ugly / boring.
How about we wait until FroYo gets (leaked) and we have it first?
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The only people who feel bad about the Incredible being slightly better are the whiners.
IE the people who weren't happy with the Nexus One even without any other similar device having been announced yet.
NO PHONE is perfect.
Case in point: The Incredible, despite having slightly better hardware, feels cheap and is ugly / boring.
How about we wait until FroYo gets (leaked) and we have it first?
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Paul22000 said:
The only people who feel bad about the Incredible being slightly better are the whiners.
IE the people who weren't happy with the Nexus One even without any other similar device having been announced yet.
NO PHONE is perfect.
Case in point: The Incredible, despite having slightly better hardware, feels cheap and is ugly / boring.
How about we wait until FroYo gets (leaked) and we have it first?
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I really wanted to disagree with that post to not seem like an N1 fanboy, but I agree.. the Incredible is a giant plastic brick, we will get updates first, and the hardware is only slightly upgraded. It is Incredible, but if you have a Nexus.. its not worth switching over to.
If the Incredible does get developer support, and Froyo gets ported.. then.. um.. maybe we should be worried then. What if Froyo is released quickly for it? We won't have much to brag about but developer support, and.. sexiness? And then if it gets developer support, as much as we have, then it will really be a problem. They may have took root security measures like on the Desire and Legend though, so it may not even matter.
that's what I'm saying, the nexus is such a better built phone that I don't care if the incredible has a 5 gHz CPU, I'd always take the nexus every time.
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that's what I'm saying, the nexus is such a better built phone that I don't care if the incredible has a 5 gHz CPU, I'd always take the nexus every time.
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Did I smell a touch of sarcasm there? you honestly will dump a 5GHz CPU for the nexus?? There is too much love in here guys!
well I was being half sarcastic, but not totally to be honest. sit a nexus next to an incredible and tell me "pick on for free and It's yours, but only one" and I would take the nexus every time no question.
The Nexus One is the first phone I've ever owned that I have no envy of any future phones. It fulfills every single need I have and I can see myself using it beyond 2 years. It's THAT good.
Yup. I agree with above poster. I've never had the latest and greatest and nothing available better. And there won't be for a while, in Canada. I am by no means regretting my purchase and am absolutely in love with the Nexus One. I haven't put it down since I got it 2 and a half weeks ago.
If you have one, love it. If not, then sell it and get yourself an Incredible. Then regret switching.
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the only thing that really annoys me about the phone is battery life. but i guess this is something that no smartphone will do any better in the forseeable future.
I played with an Incredible at a verizon store yesterday. It does seem thinner and snappier.
Still prefer the stock UI.
Biggest sense plus is the exchange server support.
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the only thing that really annoys me about the phone is battery life. but i guess this is something that no smartphone will do any better in the forseeable future.
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have you tried that GSM Auto (PRL) setting in the other thread? it really seems to work. i have had HORRIBLE battery life for the last month. my battery would die in about 5 hours or maybe 6. so far with this new setting, i am at 4 hours and still at 85%. its made a huge difference so far. but i'm still testing to really know.
battery life is not _horrible_ for me, but it's not great either.
i do have the extended 2800 mAh battery from SEIDO, and i manage to get 3 days out of it. now if this were the performance with the stock battery, i would be a happy camper.

Thinking of getting the 3g slide...but coming from the nexus one.., will i be happy?

since the nexus one is a faster device. will i be happpy with the my touch 3g slide? i went to att and got the new iphone4, i am not too impressed and att service sucks where i live, i have 30 days to cancel, i have the hd2 but i am selling it, i cant take winmo any longer,
what do you all think as far as speed, and screen...will i be happy switching? or will i notice a big speed diffrence?
Thanks
I think the slide is fast as hell. Its feels like a snapdragon processer plus once you root and put froyo on it its crfazy fast. And the keyboard is one of the best ever! And the screen isn't as high res but still looks good and it doesn't eat as much battery.
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jriv said:
I think the slide is fast as hell. Its feels like a snapdragon processer plus once you root and put froyo on it its crfazy fast. And the keyboard is one of the best ever! And the screen isn't as high res but still looks good and it doesn't eat as much battery.
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Ditto. U shouldn't notice the speed difference. I love my slide but if ur coming from the nexus u might want to check into the vibrant too. Basically mirror of the specs. Just keep ur options open. Good Luck.
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dvigue said:
since the nexus one is a faster device. will i be happpy with the my touch 3g slide? i went to att and got the new iphone4, i am not too impressed and att service sucks where i live, i have 30 days to cancel, i have the hd2 but i am selling it, i cant take winmo any longer,
what do you all think as far as speed, and screen...will i be happy switching? or will i notice a big speed diffrence?
Thanks
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In one word.... NO. The Slide IMO is a entry level Android 2.1 (sometime to be 2.2) device.
The Nexus One has everything the slide does (except swype which can be DLed and a physical keybored that you will never use)
The Nexus one already has 2.2 (supported)
And the iPhone 4 is 100x better then both phones. The screen on the iPhone 4 is EXTREAMLY good. The app store for iPhone is twice as big. And the things the iPhone can do is still much higher then the Android platform.
How the f can you even say the iphone us better than these phones your sadly mistaken
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krolla03 said:
In one word.... NO. The Slide IMO is a entry level Android 2.1 (sometime to be 2.2) device.
The Nexus One has everything the slide does (except swype which can be DLed and a physical keybored that you will never use)
The Nexus one already has 2.2 (supported)
And the iPhone 4 is 100x better then both phones. The screen on the iPhone 4 is EXTREAMLY good. The app store for iPhone is twice as big. And the things the iPhone can do is still much higher then the Android platform.
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I think you're on crack. The physical keyboard is so much nicer than a on screen keyboard. Even with swype, the OSK sucks compared to a physical keyboard.
I really don't think the slide is entry level at either its at least as fast if not faster than the iphone.and yes I've used them both.
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krolla03 said:
In one word.... NO. The Slide IMO is a entry level Android 2.1 (sometime to be 2.2) device.
The Nexus One has everything the slide does (except swype which can be DLed and a physical keybored that you will never use)
The Nexus one already has 2.2 (supported)
And the iPhone 4 is 100x better then both phones. The screen on the iPhone 4 is EXTREAMLY good. The app store for iPhone is twice as big. And the things the iPhone can do is still much higher then the Android platform.
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Please leave this forum and never come back.
krolla03 said:
Words words words...
And the iPhone 4 is 100x better then both phones. The screen on the iPhone 4 is EXTREAMLY good. The app store for iPhone is twice as big. And the things the iPhone can do is still much higher then the Android platform.
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Oh, you misspelled your username! The K and the T are nowhere near each other!
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Oh, you misspelled your username! The K and the T are nowhere near each other!
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LoL... Took me a min to get that!
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Please leave this forum and never come back.
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Lol! You guys crack me up! The nerve of that guy! Why is he even here?! Does he have an HTC and has buyers remorse. Personally, I thought the first iPhone was great. It lead the way for many advancements from HTC, WM, and Android. So even though I hate Apple, I have to admit that but... the iphone4 is crap. Adding a front facing camera, is an old idea and has been used outside the US for many years. Most US carriers haven't been able to provide a network that handles the data capabilities that are needed to run video calling until the past couple years. I blame the US carriers for that blunder. But leave it up to Apple and at&t to steal old ideas... plus, wow a higher res screen that the human eye can't even differentiate that many pixels. Screw that... and a antenna that forces users to hold their phone a certain way to get proper reception so they don't drop a call that at&t is notorious of doing because of their crappy glued together 2G and 3G that are on 4 different frequencies. Lol! What a joke! The iPhone is garbage. The nexus is a fine, quality phone but the lack of a QWERTY keyboard is a real turn off. The MTS is just as good without the battery drain and just as fast because of the high RAM amount and superior GPU. Plus the vibrant is nice and has a large internal memory space for ROM and apps, but I have had bad experiences with Samsung in the past. But who knows... may be you'll have a good one but the point is ... the MTS is a better replacement for the nexus and vibrant is a good option too. Good luck!
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Lol! You guys crack me up! The nerve of that guy! Why is he even here?! Does he have an HTC and has buyers remorse. Personally, I thought the first iPhone was great. It lead the way for many advancements from HTC, WM, and Android. So even though I hate Apple, I have to admit that but... the iphone4 is crap. Adding a front facing camera, is an old idea and has been used outside the US for many years. Most US carriers haven't been able to provide a network that handles the data capabilities that are needed to run video calling until the past couple years. I blame the US carriers for that blunder. But leave it up to Apple and at&t to steal old ideas... plus, wow a higher res screen that the human eye can't even differentiate that many pixels. Screw that... and a antenna that forces users to hold their phone a certain way to get proper reception so they don't drop a call that at&t is notorious of doing because of their crappy glued together 2G and 3G that are on 4 different frequencies. Lol! What a joke! The iPhone is garbage. The nexus is a fine, quality phone but the lack of a QWERTY keyboard is a real turn off. The MTS is just as good without the battery drain and just as fast because of the high RAM amount and superior GPU. Plus the vibrant is nice and has a large internal memory space for ROM and apps, but I have had bad experiences with Samsung in the past. But who knows... may be you'll have a good one but the point is ... the MTS is a better replacement for the nexus and vibrant is a good option too. Good luck!
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thank you!!!

[Q] G2 or myTouch 4G?

Ok I am going to ask this question once, state all your opinions don't hold back and people please do not start a flame war. Be civilized and to each their own opinion, we are technically the same android family and also both use T-Mobile.
G2 or myTouch 4G?
Pros and Cons
Asking this in both forum sections... wish we could have the same thread in both sections.
{Edit- link to G2 forums thread same topic | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831505}
There are plenty of reviews/comparisons out on the web. It's really personal opinion.
Do you want a physical kb? That's one big difference been the 2. The myTouch is candybar style, thin & "sexy", while the G2 is bulky in comparison sure to the physical kb, and the hinge mechanism is strange and loose whether you'd hold it in a way to notice or not.
Also, if you put value on it - Quadrant score on mT4G was about 100 higher than G2
Do you really want stock Android, or would you be happy with Espresso or a replacement launcher?
Again, it's really personal choice. Both are top T-Mob offerings right now and people are very happy with both. Personally, I don't like physical kbs and the bulk they add, and think HTC made a poor choice with the G2 in using an odd hinge vs something similar to the mT3G Slide.
For sure, the 4G is a sweet phone, a beast under the hood, and feels both sleek and solid in your hand. Also got OTA to 2.2.1 within hours of walking out of store.
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Its going to be a close discussion. I would prefer the phsyical keyboard and vanilla Android of the G2, but that wonky hinge makes me edgy.
I'm leaning towards the MT4G myself, the Sense/Espresso UI can likely be removed once full root is achieved.
I went off contract last month and have been using a G1 for the past 2 years. When I was looking at phones I came close to purchasing the G2 but the hinge seemed awkward, so decided to do some research on the G2.
Read a lot, not just a few complaints about the hinge, random boots, lose of data, and dropped connections for the phone. The complaints about the G2 really turned me off from buying it. The complaints about the My Touch 4G seem to be mostly personal preference about the UI, with the phone itself being reliable.
So the My Touch 4G it was. I won't receive it until Monday, so I can't comment on how much I will like or dislike it.
I also had a G1, until yesterday. So far I have to say I am thrilled with the My Touch.
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myTouch 4G hands down. I have both and I'm almost tempted to sell my G2 now.
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I would go with the mytouch as well. Here are my thoughts from another thread.
I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led
Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
I bought the MT4G and LOVE the hardware, but Sense is pissing me off so much that I'm thinking of returning it for the G2.
Phateless said:
I bought the MT4G and LOVE the hardware, but Sense is pissing me off so much that I'm thinking of returning it for the G2.
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You could install LP or ADW maybe?
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You could install LP or ADW maybe?
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Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
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Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
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I'm debating between the two phones myself, would like to see some screens of what the MT4G looks like with LP/ADW with a stock look.
Regardless, I'm not going to buy either until they have full root. In one of the G2 threads, some one's posted about how newer G2s have a modified hinge design with a spring.
Patience, Patience. :-/
Functionality wise the MT4G has it all. Gps inside my house was within 4 meters almost instantly. The htc widgets are just pure win aswell. I thought about the G2 but the hinge on the model phone at tmobile was so loose if you turned the phone on its side the keyboard would fall open by itself so it was an easy decision for me right there to go with the MT4G.
Doh! I just noticed that I talked about the vibrant vs the mytouch instead of the g2. This is really a hard choice as both phones are great and geared towards different crowds. G2 is for the pure android enthusiast that loves or needs the physical keyboard. Mytouch is more for the casual crowd. I would personally go with the mytouch for its slimmer profile, FFC, toucscreen seems to respond and feel a little better, stock 1ghz processor vs 800mhz, and 768mb ram vs 512mb. The g2 has a better look IMO, physical keyboard if you prefer, stock android for faster updates, and the screen seems to be a little more saturated.
There is a new 3 part review on youtube of the mytouch vs g2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X6aaOXvEno&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
I actually bought the G2, and 24 hrs later I returned it and got the MT4G. I have absolutely 0 buyer's remorse.
I loved the G2, but the problem was the hinge. After just one day, it would open just by breathing on it. I couldn't stand it. While there are some things I wish the MT4G had from the G2, overall, because of the hinge, the MT4G is the winner.
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I actually bought the G2, and 24 hrs later I returned it and got the MT4G. I have absolutely 0 buyer's remorse.
I loved the G2, but the problem was the hinge. After just one day, it would open just by breathing on it. I couldn't stand it. While there are some things I wish the MT4G had from the G2, overall, because of the hinge, the MT4G is the winner.
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Funny you say that because I picked up the MT4G on Saturday and am thinking about returning it for the G2 because I don't like Sense. Part of the reason I chose the MT4G was the hinge issue you mentioned. I would never use the keyboard anyway so it seemed silly to buy a phone that had one.
MT4G
Totally feel your pain cause I was in the same boat. Had the Nexus for almost a year until I replaced it with the G2.
I really like how the G2 lies in your hand when you're browsing the web in landscape mode with the keyboard out although I'm not a huge fan of the keyboard mainly because it doesn't have dedicated number keys and the size of it makes typing slower and more strenuous than on the G1 (which I had before the Nexus).
I was also a bit annoyed by the way the keyboard backlighting kept turning itself on and off in medium light conditions without having the option to have it always on when the keyboard is used.
The hinge is a big question mark with some disaster potential. I guess only time will tell. Having said that I didn't mind the looseness too much. I also really like the slick business look to the G2 although it is definitely bulky when compared to my nexus or the MT4G. Overall it's an awesome device though and I definitely grew font of it during the 3 weeks I owned it.
When the MT4G came out I decided to give it a try cause I still had 10 days in my remorse period. The genius button and mysense took some getting used to. Definitely prefer vanilla android. LauncherPro, visionary, and Titanium Backup helped me remove a lot of crap and get a bit more vanilla flare back although there are also certain things I like better about the sense UI (copy/paste, eMail app, facebook app,)
I like the camera app better on the MT4G. Simply takes better pictures. FFC isnt a big deal for me but certainly doesn't hurt.
I definitely miss the soft buttons on the MT4G. The plastic hard buttons feel a little cheap and I would prefer not having to actually click them. I guess its cause I've been so used to the Nexus. I also agree with parts of the Engadget review about the lag of aesthetics. Overall the MT4G feels a lot thinner and smaller though which was what won me over.
Verdict:
I still have 4 days left in my remorse period but decided to keep the MT4G. Both are good devices so it totally depends on what you want. In the end it was the thinness that won me over to the MT4G and the black looks actually quite slick. Good luck deciding and just remember, you really can't go wrong with either one.
I'm not a sense fan either, I use launcher pro plus. I got this setup like my nexus, fast too. And I use widget lock screen app
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Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
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Wanna define what you mean by "all the sense stuff"? Not saying it applies to you but sometimes I get the feeling people say they dislike sense because they have read so many times that stock is better without really knowing what the difference is.
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Wanna define what you mean by "all the sense stuff"? Not saying it applies to you but sometimes I get the feeling people say they dislike sense because they have read so many times that stock is better without really knowing what the difference is.
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I'm not a fan of any UI overlays. None really seem to add much to the Android OS that isn't already there, but they do slow OS updates to a crawl. Even with their faults, HTC pushes more updates to their Sense phones than other manufacturers.
I spoke with a VZW rep this afternoon, sent them an email inquiring about cancellations and what the penalties would be. They offered me an early upgrade, but when I told them I was more interested in a stock Android device, the rep told me that I should wait until after Thanksgiving because they may be better able to help me then.
I didn't exactly plan on buying a MT4G/G2 next week, but this does have me curious.

Nexus S is awesome!

Kinda pointless post but was bored at work so thought I'd share my views for anyone else who's on the fence about getting it:
I was waiting for CES announcements to see what was coming out in the future but changed my mind and decided to jump in and get a Nexus S. I was coming from an old WinMo phone that I've had for ages (having been a poor student), which probably isn't the best base to be commenting on this but I'm used to android as I've been deving on my housemates HTC Desire HD.
I'm so glad I did, I won't lie and say the phone is perfect as no phone is. It is, however, a true pleasure to use and looks gorgeous (especially compared to WinMo).
I mostly just wanted to put a nice positive post on the forums because there's allot of people moaning about one thing or another to-do with the phone and as with anything people only tend to post when they have a problem or issue. Especially regarding the specs being current gen and not next gen; and therefore a lack of longevity. It's easy to forget that being a "Google" phone means that regardless of hardware it will be around for a while, and will still be enjoyable and exciting to use during that time thanks to the ongoing updates.
The device feels solid and premium, even the plastic backing, and I prefer it in the hand and visually to my house mates Desire HD (which is also a great phone). Battery life is better than most equivalent devices. Sound is crisp and clear. Reception on the same network has been better that the HD. Everything has worked perfectly. The screen is beautiful, especially if you like darker backgrounds.
My only disappointment is the lack of gorilla-glass, but that's not a biggy for me.
The phone wasn't meant to be bleeding edge. It was meant to work, and work well. It does, and to quote Mr. D's "I'm loving it".
Thumbs up Google and Samsung.
Even though people are going crazy over the dual-core phone announcements at CES, but none of those phones won't be available in months and they still will launch with Froyo.
The Nexus S still uses the most powerful harware available at the moment but the feature that it's really marketed for is the fact that it will be running vanilla Anroid and will get update priority.
I have this phone and I can easily say it's one of the best android phone the market. Here in the UK there is no 4G so all this no HSPA+ stuff doesnt really affect me.
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Hear hear! I totally agree. This is my first smartphone and I am loving the Nexus S. Pure Google experience all the way.
2.3 is why i went for our SNS
I agree its an awesome phone! My first android phone coming from the Iphone 2g and what a difference xD
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IMHO the NS is still a sexier device then the ones shown at CES. Just saying
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I understand and agree with wanting the Nexus S for the timely and clean updates, but I've always called people out when they play the "I don't need it" card when specs are compared. There are many things on phones we don't "need," but that doesn't abate people's disappointments. Granted, it goes both ways; people will find anything to complain about (like if it had 720p recording, some would say it should have 1080).
Everyone is different, everyone has opinions, and everyone can voice them at an open forum.
I love the clean black look of the Nexus S. No emblems, no harware, and no icons.
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I love the clean black look of the Nexus S. No emblems, no harware, and no icons.
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Amen. The SAMSUNG on my i9000 and the T-Mobile & Samsung on the Vibrant are just butt ugly compared next to the totally unmarked NS.
Still, that ugly Verizon logo on the new Samsung LTE phone won't keep me from buying it!
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Hear hear! I totally agree. This is my first smartphone and I am loving the Nexus S. Pure Google experience all the way.
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Agreed! My first 'real' smartphone too (my Nokia E63 could be classed as a smartphone, albeit not a very good one, suited me at the time though) and I absolutely love it! I have finally jumped on the Android wagon (lack of money prevented me before ) and I am not looking back!
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I have this phone and I can easily say it's one of the best android phone the market. Here in the UK there is no 4G so all this no HSPA+ stuff doesnt really affect me.
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Same with Australia. We have WiMAX but only in Perth and a couple of other places (not in my area though) but it doesn't support phones. So everything is perfect for me! Sure there are other features that would have been nice to have, but I would never had really used them, so overall it doesn't detract from the experience.
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I agree its an awesome phone! My first android phone coming from the Iphone 2g and what a difference xD
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You think that's a difference? Try coming from a Blackberry .
Seriously, I love this thing.
I think I'm one of the few when I say that I like the build. It looks very good, all black. Plastic makes it lighter, and it's firmer. Only con is that plastic is slippery, and of course fingerprints. The Contour Display, although subtile, makes it very appealing, as does the chin on the back.
Especially with Super AMOLED and it's deep blacks, the phone is awesome. I really like the notification bar fading into the phone itself, and that the buttons are not visible when the phone is turned off. We will get the Nexus S with Super Clear LCD here, which will be nice for lighter interfaces and for browsing the web, but I am a little bit jealous on the Americans and the Britons. With Super AMOLED a dark background looks much better, and in combination with the black finish of the phone, it's beautiful.
The Nexus S is my 4th android phone & I love it. I started with a T-Mobile Pulse (I really liked that phone, coming from a Nokia n97!), then the HTC Hero, HTC Desire & finally the Nexus S.
I thought the screen was good on my Desire (when I'm not outside lol), but the 4 inch NS screen is just amazing. I had to get used to a few things though...
1) No notification light (noled app is a good solution, but obviously uses a little bit of battery as the screen is on).
2) lack of trackball (this is just personal as I used the trackball a lot for moving the curser when typing).
3) the phone is really light & a bit slippery (i love the handsets design, but I'll get a case once I find one I like).
4) no sense ui (not for the Widgets, I jus prefer the dialler, gallery & SMS apps over the stock android ones).
Overall, the points I mentioned have not stopped me loving this phone. They are just things I became accustomed to from my previous android phones. I also miss the excellent Facebook integration from sense ui (birthdays in my calendar for example).
Having said all that, I still wouldn't swap my Nexus S for any other phone on the market today. I'm a big fan of complete customisation & I haven't even mentioned the ease of getting full root (anyone tried to get 'S-OFF' on a Desire lol) or the fact I have gingerbread out of the box! Finally, any phone with a screen bigger than 4 inches is just too uncomfortable for me.
There's my 2p worth
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I came to the Nexus S from the Evo, and I have to say that I like it more in almost every way. I do, however, have one legitimate complaint, and that is that the wifi connections are very weak.
I just switched over to the NS4G from the Epic 4G today and after playing with this for a solid 8hrs now.
NO REGRETS.. It's fast right out of the box.. I almost didn't even bother rooting it I was so impressed.. Then I did root, flashed mikeyinid's v.5 ROM and WOW. It just got faster...
Amazing phone.. I will never.. Ever.. Go back to a non-Google phone again.. Yeah, it's plastic on the back, but it feels solid.. Not wobbly and cheap like my Epic felt. Swore Tyco made that thing.
I love my Nexus S too, its my first Droid phone, although my girlfriend had the mytouch. I learned how awesome droids are from rooting and installing a custom ROM on. I had jailbroken iPhones and iPod for my self and friends in the past but the freedom of the Droid was what made me want one. I was going to get the mytouch 4g but after I saw the nexus s at best buy, I knew I had to get it, the screen is by far the best looking, and its just sexy. I have had for two months and I love it. James Bond Sabi Dee UV kernal is so smooth, running cm7.
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Its more aswsome if u flash a cm7 into it. Totally worth to downgrade back to 2.3.3 and flash a cm 7.0.3
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I may as well plugin my thoughts too. I just passed down my Nexus One to my girlfriend and got the Nexus S. I'm quite happy with it!
Things I like about it versus the N1...
- 4" is my new favorite size
- The haptic feedback feels better
- Light weight
- SCLCD makes texts easier on the eyes
- It feels faster overall... smooth scrolling in stock launcher!
- Camera mic picks up much better audio when recording
- Battery feels like it lasts longer after heavy use!
Things I don't like about it versus the N1...
- It's plastic and I'm very hesitant when putting it in my pocket - need to find a case soon
- Display colors don't seem as vibrant, but definitely clear and great color reproduction... just not excellent (again, I'm using the SCLCD version not AMOLED)
Summary: No regrets switching my N1 for NS! The size, speed and battery life made me one very happy owner!
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The Nexus S is my 4th android phone & I love it. I started with a... ...HTC Desire...
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How would you rate the battery on the Nexus S compared to the Desire?
Ahh while we are praising our NS's, I want to say something about how I felt when I first got my phone. Ordered it beginning of April from negri-electronics and was a bit skeptical at first, but after being brainwashed by the ads online and playing with the NS that was on display at Best Buy, I couldn't wait any further.
The day came and I had been creeping on the tracking status every 2 minutes to check the location of the package. I had gotten it expedited so I'd get it as fast as possible, yet the shipping day felt like the longest day ever when I was sitting and waiting outside my house with 3 cups of coffee, my laptop, and season 6 of The Office. After waiting for about 283828833 hours (in reality 3 hours) my package came! Felt like christmas when I opened that box, popped in my sim, and watched that sexy Nexus Bootscreen in awe much like my first time last year.
My cellphone journey was weird.
I started out with a small nokia phone that lasted me quite a long time. Then I 2 christmases ago I got a blackberry. My mother had picked up the N1 at that time and I loved it so much I traded her my blackberry (after countless times of persauding the blackberry was faster and such.. ) From then on my love for the Google Phone spread like wildfire.
And now I'm with SNS. Not Samsung Nexus S, my Sexy Nexus S.
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Atrix overated

Ive had the Atrix now for a few days and honestly its overrated. Its stutters alot when i have the live wallpaper on.
Even games ....they look better... like samurai and backbreaker but they still stutter like on other android phones.
Tegra 2 as of Now is nothing special. I thought the OS would be faster but its not. Blur stinks
The reviews said this was a FASSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT phone. Ummm compared to what? My friends iphone seems faster, smoother and honestly better..
I think im getting rid of it , at best ill hold onto it till iphone 5 comes out. nyone else diapointed or expected more?
just get the iphone...
yeah i think your right. i had the INSPIRE and that seemed faster. I gotta sweat it out i guess and hope it gets better or wait till iphone 5 now.
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Ive had the Atrix now for a few days and honestly its overrated. Its stutters alot when i have the live wallpaper on.
Even games ....they look better... like samurai and backbreaker but they still stutter like on other android phones.
Tegra 2 as of Now is nothing special. I thought the OS would be faster but its not. Blur stinks
The reviews said this was a FASSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTT phone. Ummm compared to what? My friends iphone seems faster, smoother and honestly better..
I think im getting rid of it , at best ill hold onto it till iphone 5 comes out. nyone else diapointed or expected more?
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You must be on drugs if you think the iphone 4 is faster than the Atrix. I have an Aria, iphone 3gs and I had a Craptivate for a while. My wife has an Evo that I use for side by side comparison along with the 3gs. The Atrix is faster than all of them even when the Evo is overclocked. It's not even close epecially rendering web pages and scrolling through photos is buttery smooth.The Atrix plays flash videos that look like a slideshow with the Evo and Craptivate. You can't even watch those videos with an iphone 4. The Atrix also has better battery life than the other phones I've mentioned. I went 42 hours after the first full charge.
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yeah i think your right. i had the INSPIRE and that seemed faster. I gotta sweat it out i guess and hope it gets better or wait till iphone 5 now.
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Inspire is NOT faster than the atrix! I had both and used them to compare many things. Inspired is fast but the atrix shines on somewhat more intense apps/games. As far as the iPhone 4, it is fast. But I'm bored with the OS! One hardware button is old and dumb. Iphone 5 will be nice but if they keep that small screen I will never go back.
The isnpire would have been a keeper if it wasn't for the low volume on EVERYTHING. That at the poor battery life it had to go back. I do miss it though!
i would think the atrix specs should really kick as5 but looks as tho its getting mixed reviews.
i wouldnt say the atrix is over rated, i think its expectations might of.
what do i know as i dont own one or have had the opportinity to try one but the atrix is one of top phones i was considering get if i decide to get a new phone..
The problem with the Atrix vs Inspire is that you're comparing a phone with GPU acceleration (thank you HTC) to a phone without it (no thanks to you Moto).
Atrix will be awesome around November 2011, when it finally gets Ice Cream.
Yeah I guess. I have 4 months to wait and see and HOPE it gets better.
i totally dont agree. I have had the Atrix, Inspire, Captivate, (HD2 etc)
this is by far the slickest, fastest and best devive I have ever had. No stutter, good screen, great video and camera, great battery life, fantastic sound quality. Totally a keeper for me (FINALLY!)
Inspire was a dissapointment for me. felt like my HD2 on steroids.
Oh and I still think WM6.5 with sense was the best UI. But thats just me.
I think people were expecting this phone to **** rainbows and if it doesn't then it's a piece of ****.
I just ordered mine.... you are telling me it doesn't **** rainbows? damn....
It does in fact **** rainbows
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I think people were expecting this phone to **** rainbows and if it doesn't then it's a piece of ****.
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YUP! It was supposed to **** RAOnbows.
I had an iPhone 4, and I liked it. However, I love the android experience. That being said when ATT decided to step up their android game, I was eager. I got the inspire on launch because I am impatient. For a little I thought I would keep it, because generally it was an all around great phone. What it came down to (in the short run) is the battery life. I wanted a high tech phone I could play with and enjoy. The Atrix is just that. I don't have any issues you retarts are complaining of. the display is nice, the battery is huge, the phone is fast, (motoblur does kind of stink, but ADW launcher is really nice/is the default for the cyanogen mods so thats cool)... overall, rules. NOW STOP MAKING STUPID THREADS LIKE THIS! THERE ARE 1000049045842398 REVIEW THREADS/OPINIONS...PLEASE MERGE YOUR THOUGHTS TO SOMEONE ELSES!!!!
Great phone! (coming from 3GS and captivate)
mine ****s cupcakes with rainbow sprinkles
TareX said:
The problem with the Atrix vs Inspire is that you're comparing a phone with GPU acceleration (thank you HTC) to a phone without it (no thanks to you Moto).
Atrix will be awesome around November 2011, when it finally gets Ice Cream.
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i totally dont agree. I have had the Atrix, Inspire, Captivate, (HD2 etc)
this is by far the slickest, fastest and best devive I have ever had. No stutter, good screen, great video and camera, great battery life, fantastic sound quality. Totally a keeper for me (FINALLY!)
Inspire was a dissapointment for me. felt like my HD2 on steroids.
Oh and I still think WM6.5 with sense was the best UI. But thats just me.
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I agree with everything you said, and more.
Inspire is just a gimped Evo And the Craptivate is the worst phone I've ever owned. Only an idiot would by those phones in 2011. There's alot of jealous Inspire and Craptivate owners raggin on the Atrix in an attempt to make themselves feel better and their reasoning is ridiculous.
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Inspire is just a gimped Evo And the Craptivate is the worst phone I've ever owned. Only an idiot would by those phones in 2011. There's alot of jealous Inspire and Craptivate owners raggin on the Atrix in an attempt to make themselves feel better and their reasoning is ridiculous.
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Captivate is great after installing certain roms which I have done. I had the inspire for a week and couldn't justify spending the full retail price for a larger screen and the ability to run aosp cm7. Yes the build quality far exceeds my captivate, but it didn't offer enough to warrant me keeping it. I have zero hate for the atrix its still just a phone after all. I actually am considering buying it and if I don't see enough reasons to keep it, then ill simply return it. There are some serious devices slated for this year and we will see some incredible tech and just like any other phone it too will be outdated very quickly.
I love the phone and I think the network is the issue here ...

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