Was wondering if this was possible on our hd2s?
I like all the htc skins parts in android (dialer, text, browser, general theme) but want launcher pro instead on the sense home screen.
I use taskiller but the sense stuff always comes back. I did a search and found this on the evo forum. Sounds good, would it mess the phone? Or not work at all?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769525
worst case scenario is that you have to start your android build again.
no danger of bricking the phone anyway......
id try it but id want sense back after 10 mins.....
what im wondering is why dont you just run a non sense android build?
was trying to get it working, but unsure how to run it? its a zip file which contains loads of other files that i cant run?
I use ADW launcher with MDJ Froyo 1.1 Matt with no problems as my default launcher and that is a sense build, it actualy runs a little smoother in my opinion.
I use Launcher Pro on top of Sense (see my build and pic below). It is fantastic. I recommend purchasing the full, as well as purchasing Beautiful Widgets (both from the market).
Fantastic custom screen and faster movement.
woks well, but with froyo I am always fighting for a bit of ram. If froyo is your type of build then launcher pro is recommended. You can still launch the radio via programs
Install your launcher of choice from the market/apk and when you click the home button you'll get a pop-up asking which one you'd like to use (sense/your other launcher). click the box saying "always use this choice" and select your launcher. Sense will close, your launcher will open and that's it, done.
You can change your option later if you regret it in your system settings.
So, what your saying is that it doesnt matter? Its just when using taskiller i see the services restarting all the time...
I'm not saying it won't stop the services from starting all the time (there's probably a way round that as well, although I've not bothered looking) but the services shouldn't use much ram anyway, and they're responsible for other background tasks, not just the graphical front end.
Yeah, I dont want to stop it all...just certain parts. Im unsure how to run the file which i posted up on the original post...any ideas? I would like to try it as it sounds ideal (you might like the sound of it yourself)
I don't think I would run that file with these builds. Go download a Nexus build if you really want no Sense. Otherwise, some files run, but take so little space it is incidental.
For example HTC Sense takes a several MB's when running as your home screen. Using Launcher Pro as default home causes that number to drop to 48kb...almost nothing.
And I would get Home Switcher from the market in case you change your mind later or need to access Sense.
So...just to confirm I cannot get rid of the sense launcher...but keep:
taskbar
dialer
skinned browser
general theme throughout
It it honestly just me that wants this haha!
fracmo2000 said:
So...just to confirm I cannot get rid of the sense launcher...but keep:
taskbar
dialer
skinned browser
general theme throughout
It it honestly just me that wants this haha!
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I would be nice to know how to flash that file uploaded in the evo forum..
Anyone knows how to dit it and ill give it a try
I tried, but dont know how...can any expert look at my original post and see?
Other parts of the xda forum ask for this...but here im told to use either sense or froyo...i want the best of both.
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Now that the phone's been rooted, how do I completely wipe every single trace of SenseUI? In other words, I want it to look like nearly every other Android phone out there. White status bar etc.
Removing Rosie.apk from /system/app did nothing...
Question I'd like answered as well. I'm guessing we'll have to wait for a full custom ROM. Though I can say that all Sprint stuff I've removed has all ready made the phone much snappier.
Well you dont really have to remove sensui, you can just set the phone to only show just the regular home. You can do that by going to settings > applications > Manage Applications find HTC Sense and click that and click clear defaults. When you do that press home and check the check box that says use as default or something like that and click Home icon on the screen.
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Well you dont really have to remove sensui, you can just set the phone to only show just the regular home. You can do that by going to settings > applications > Manage Applications find HTC Sense and click that and click clear defaults. When you do that press home and check the check box that says use as default or something like that and click Home icon on the screen.
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But that's the problem, it only shows regular home and nothing else from the vanilla Android.
goku14238 said:
Well you dont really have to remove sensui, you can just set the phone to only show just the regular home. You can do that by going to settings > applications > Manage Applications find HTC Sense and click that and click clear defaults. When you do that press home and check the check box that says use as default or something like that and click Home icon on the screen.
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Sense UI still runs in the background.
And you're not gonna get this phone to run completely without unless you flashing a custom rom. The Sense UI is more than just 7 screens and widgets. It's the taskbar, dialer, calendar, lock screen and a bunch of different apps and such.
ajones7279 said:
Sense UI still runs in the background.
And you're not gonna get this phone to run completely without unless you flashing a custom rom. The Sense UI is more than just 7 screens and widgets. It's the taskbar, dialer, calendar, lock screen and a bunch of different apps and such.
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Yeah.. Why would one want to remove sense? I have no problem with it, just wanted to know
goku14238 said:
Yeah.. Why would one want to remove sense? I have no problem with it, just wanted to know
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Some people like to be more "minimalist" and tweak for every ounce of performance (and further, it's just a personal preference thing...like some people like the looks of a Camaro over a Mustang and vice versa).
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Some people like to be more "minimalist" and tweak for every ounce of performance (and further, it's just a personal preference thing...like some people like the looks of a Camaro over a Mustang and vice versa).
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Oh ok, I see. I do know of some people that prefer the vanilla look, because it's what they are used to.
As mentioned above, there are still some HTC-specific apps on the phone even after removing Rosie.apk. Removing Rosie does prevent it from starting up a service on boot, but there's more to be removed/replaced to get a fully vanilla android experience.
One of the problems is getting the vanilla app that will replace the HTC one. Not all of the vanilla android apps are open source and available to just drop in as a replacement. You also have to be sure that the SDK version matches, or you'll get compatibility problems. For example, you can't drop in Calendar.apk from a CyanogenMod ROM (1.6) onto these phones because it won't work on 1.5. You'd need to get the 1.5 version of the app. And even then, HTC may have modified other core components (we know they hacked in CDMA support into 1.5, so there's no telling what else they modified in order to make vanilla 1.5 wholly incompatible with the modified platform -- if they did at all, of course).
You should feel free to experiment with removing/replacing apps on the phone, now that you have the ability to do so. Just keep in mind that you may very well break something if you remove the wrong app, etc. So, make sure you a) keep a backup of EVERY file that you replace/remove; in fact, I backed up the entire /system/app/ directory so that I have every app that I change; and b) have a root-capable recovery image (RA recovery 1.2.3) so that if your phone stops booting, you can go into recovery, mount /system, and restore whatever you last changed, to see if it fixes it.
I've already removed Rosie, all the (non-essential) Sprint apps, and all the HTC Widgets (com.htc.*Widget.*, Htc*Widget.*, Sprint_{N*,TV*}.apk, and several other HTC apps. No issues so far. One thing I noticed is that removing the apk from /system/app/ doesn't seem to remove all traces of the app... When I run fix_permissions from the recovery rom, it still looks for those apk files I removed, and gives a note that the file is gone and I should reinstall. Obviously, it's gone for a reason, but I haven't looked into why it's able to see that it should be there and isn't.
From a comment i made on the thread mentioned below, but seemed appropriate to start a new one considering lots of people have been looking to do this.
for any of those using launcher pro, and hate the default icons, ive attached the stock froyo ones for browser and phone. if you are an htc sense user and want a stock froyo experience without root/ custom roms then downloading launcher pro and using these icons is the easiest way to do it. if u want the stock android phone/contacts app, download dailer one and link it to the froyo phone icon (by long pressing) in launcher pro. bearing in mind the launcher2 phone icon is hardlinked to the stock android phone app, which is impossible to install on htc phones. this is the closest you can get, and it does a pretty good job!
i have also tweaked the nexus icon from another thread to fit.
it was coming up very small as the app drawer icon in launcher pro. screenshot and files for all icons attached.
ive also attached the froyo stock app drawer icon, the launcher pro one is close but a bit big and doesnt quite match the style
i know no-one has directly asked for all this info but ive been reading the forums and a lot of people want to do this so thought i had to share the knowledge somewhere! i can take credit for very little, all i have done is edit an icon and congregated stuff ive found into one place. from my own experience wanting to do this i found it very frustrating that those with sense but wanting stock had to resort to 'almost but not quite' solutions. ive also found that a lot of supposedly stable roms are far from it. this ensures a bug/ fc free experience. you get complete stock functionality but with the visual appeal and the added dock buttons from froyo.
please link this info on to any forum you might think could need it, also, if some kind soul could upload mirrors to the images for those who arent members (this thread is aimed primarily at them) and embedded photos of the screen grabs would also be appreciated, i dont have the permissions. thanks a lot, hope this stuff is useful!
Peter
Hi guys,
Sorry if this seems like a silly question, but the mail app, camera apps, and customised explorer are the ONLY parts of the official Sense builds I'd actually miss.
The answer may be around somewhere, but I haven't seen it yet; is it possible to get these apps by themselves for use on a NON-SENSE ROM. So for example if I was to go to Oxygen, I'd get all the benefits of an AOSP ROM and the additional speed, but retain the customised camera, internet and mail app.
Honestly everything else I use can be downloaded from the market, its just these apps I miss when I move away from HTC/Leedroid, infact Im quite happy with Zeam as a launcher.
this has been asked and answered a million times already...
you cant run sense apps on an aosp rom - they require the sense framework to be running, which doesnt exist on a rom that doesnt include sense.
you can run a launcher such as zeam on a sense rom though, and the htc apps should work (dont think the widgets will)
Hi all!
i'm getting galaxy tab this week, (yes i'll not wait for tab2) and i'm wondering if theres a way to get the normal look of android??
i mean, i've watch tons of videos an that, and i'd love to have the normal android feel not the original that comes with tab.
i now that on htc, we can deactivate "sense" on tab is also posible??
thank you!!!
(sorry my bad english)
I think you are referring to the samsung's android "skin" called TouchWiz. You can replace it with any launcher you want: launcher pro, ADWLauncher ex, or my personal favourite Go Launcher ex.
Hi!
thanks, thats it, i want to disable touchwiz but it seems that is not possible unless i install another rom.
with launchers, its possible to reduce ram use of touchwizz, to not overload the tab.?
thankx
You do not need another rom or to be rooted to install another launcher,
I have ADW EX on the tab (usually use touchwiz though, just got it to take a look). You can just simply download it (or any other) on the market, install and then click home to "set as default".
I don't know anything more complicated like the touchwiz ram issues though, someone more expert will have to partake for that
Have fun ^_^
Thanks!!
i'll try ADW EX, i've check some videos and it seems awsome !
I am eagerly awaiting my a500, which is being shipped right now.
In the mean time, I'd like to know what kind of optimizations you would suggest to get the best performance and utility from the tablet, so that when I do get it i'm all ready to go.
I have an android phone, and I know a big thing for it, was replacing the launcher with ADW, Launcher Pro, or Zeam. How is the default launcher on the a500? Is there a better alternative?
Secondly, do the available roms provide noticeably better performance? I'll probably be rooting for CIFS support if DLNA doesn't work out anyways, so it'd be nice to know if the roms are worth it.
Are there any settings I should change from default that would make the performance better? Or anything else you suggest?
Thanks for all your help
Some of the roms do offer performance improvements.. Thou usually break something.. unless they are the near stock rooted themed ones..
same with overclocking each kernel offers different features you will have to find what suits your needs..
the biggest issue with custom roms kernels is trade off there is always something you will be trading.. WITH Many of them its battery life and app compatibility.Th biggest two most important things for me . well 3 really.. all require you to root your tablet
1 ad-hoc network support (just a single file to replace to allow this)
2 GPS.. There is a gps fix that allows much better sat locks.
3 Backup... Titanium backup needs root not to mention full backup thru CWM RECOVERY.. aCER Recovery installer from market can do this for you .
So other than rooting the device, you don't do anything else for performance gains?
you can put a custom kernel, the one i use allows overclocking up to 1.64GHz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170319
That looks pretty awesome to me, bwassef.
I'd definitely use it just for the CIFS support, but its good to know OC is supported if I feel the need.
Are there any other things I could do, or that are necessary besides kernels & roms?
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That looks pretty awesome to me, bwassef.
I'd definitely use it just for the CIFS support, but its good to know OC is supported if I feel the need.
Are there any other things I could do, or that are necessary besides kernels & roms?
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DON'T CHANGE A THING , not for several weeks. erica_renee gave that advice before and it's the best you can follow. You need to see how it's suppose to work and get a baseline so you know how it should work. Get all your applications running and working first then see what you'd like to change that it doesn't allow you to do. Then look at other ROM's.
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DON'T CHANGE A THING , not for several weeks. erica_renee gave that advice before and it's the best you can follow. You need to see how it's suppose to work and get a baseline so you know how it should work. Get all your applications running and working first then see what you'd like to change that it doesn't allow you to do. Then look at other ROM's.
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The not changing a thing of course goes without saying. even thou yes i guess it does need to be spoken always.. If its not broken dont fix . Root and modify your device only if it does not suit your needs stock..
im Blonde i cant remember to type everything.. Giggles.
Of course, if I can get along just fine on 100% stock, I'll do that. However chances are I will need to route for CIFS support if the DLNA app doesn't work well enough.
I was actually hoping for more suggestions that don't require rooting. Like alternative launchers, or settings on the device.
mswirski said:
Of course, if I can get along just fine on 100% stock, I'll do that. However chances are I will need to route for CIFS support if the DLNA app doesn't work well enough.
I was actually hoping for more suggestions that don't require rooting. Like alternative launchers, or settings on the device.
List of my favorite apps.
1 .Thumbs keyboard
2.Titanium backup. (Need root)
3.autodesk sketchpad.
4.co-pilot. GPS app that does not need data service area.
5.Paltalk video program..(social video chat)
6.office program. I have Polaris .quicknoffice and a couple otherness.
7.splashtop HD. (To acess my desktop from anywhere)
8.root explorer. (Does not have to have root but recommended)
Also astro. And file manager he. Es file manager are nice.
9.Yahoo messenger and the video plugin.
10. Google voice. Awesome so I dont have to give out my real phone number.
11.beautiful Widgets. I love there clock and weather add ons.
I could go on but will stop here
One more I use alot is andcad. Awesome cad drawings app.
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I can tell you that in regards to a home launcher, ADW Launcher is great, and has awesome honeycomb integration. some (including me) notice a lag in the stock launcher and ADW takes care of that
NonRoot Performace Tweaks / Apps:
- Disable animations. (Settings/Screen/Animation).
- Set wifi to turn off when screen is off. (Settings/Wireless & Networks/Wifi Settings/Advanced)
- Turn off all unnecessary radios. (Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi)
- Set screen brightness to as low as you can or use auto broghtness.
- Use Opera Mobile instead of the stock browser. You may find one you like better, but this is the fastest one that I've found. Also, make sure to turn off Opera Turbo.
- Use File Manager HD as you as your file manager.
- MX Video player for video playback.
- Thumb Keyboard to replace the stock one.
- Stock launcher isn't bad, but I like to customize everything so I use ADW EX.
If I think of anymore I'll post em .
Thanks guys, these were the kind of tips I was hoping for.
Especially that there is value using ADW as an alternative launcher, and that there may be slight lag in using the stock launcher.
Has anyone tried the tablet loaded with widgets versus bare? Is it possible to run it with a lot of widgets without it slowing down a lot? I was also thinking of using some more minimal looking text widgets to displayed weather etc. instead of the fancy graphical ones. I'm assuming these will be lighter on resources?
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Thanks guys, these were the kind of tips I was hoping for.
Especially that there is value using ADW as an alternative launcher, and that there may be slight lag in using the stock launcher.
Has anyone tried the tablet loaded with widgets versus bare? Is it possible to run it with a lot of widgets without it slowing down a lot? I was also thinking of using some more minimal looking text widgets to displayed weather etc. instead of the fancy graphical ones. I'm assuming these will be lighter on resources?
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I've got about 10 widgets plus a LWP and im still able to play games etc. with out any lag. But I'm also rooted with many different mods and tweaks I've done, so I'm not sure how it would be on a stock OS.