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A good friend is planning to upgrade from the G1 to the Nexus One very soon and is asking me if it still seems like a good idea.
He and I bought G1s within a month of its introduction the year before last (he urged me to get one in fact) and I became obsessed with modding it while he has been content with the normal (unrooted) OS and user interface. I jumped to Verizon to get on a family plan with my wife when the Droid came out, convinced it was the best Android hardware available, but when the Nexus One specs started showing up I started urging him to give it a serious look.
We both became convinced it was going to be a good upgrade for him (he's still on T-Mo) but started having some second thoughts after all the irregular 3G access and other issues started surfacing.
So the question is: Is the Nexus One still a no-brainer for an Android fan wanting to upgrade? Do you regret getting one?
Thanks for any input or advice you can offer!
For Android fan, i would say yes. its been 2 weeks and Google and HTC still havent solved ANY issues with Nexus, but my guess is that eventually they will. Its a great phone with good hardware, but there are lots of bugs in Nexus that I have not had in MyTouch 3G.
The Nexus One is awesome. I get 4 bars of 3G anywhere in Boston, so I think it all depends on the quality of the T-mobile network in your area. Personally, I've never noticed the 3G problem with the Nexus, but expect that to the extent that it does exist, it will be cleaned up with a firmware update.
If your friend is used to an open Android experience I think he'll have a tough time working in a more restricted environment like an I-phone. Maybe I've just become a fanboy though!
I am surrounded by purple (tmobile 3g) I live in Miami.
I have tested the nexus one with 1.6 android and noticed I had no problems connecting I was getting awesome speeds.
I personally think the issue is software based.
Overall i THINK THE NEXUS ONE is a great device and highly recommended. your friend will fall in love with the screen and speed of the phone.
Some minor setbacks but overall the phone is amazing. I switched from teh droid to the N1 im satisfied.
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So the question is: Is the Nexus One still a no-brainer for an Android fan wanting to upgrade?
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It is not a no brainer, but it is a worthwhile upgrade. Does your friend rely heavily on the hardware keyboard? If so you might hold out for a few more months and see if the rumored N2 with keyboard comes out.
If keyboard does not matter can he hold out for another month or is he really hankering for muffin. If he can hold out then this would give these initial jitters time to settle down and be corrected.
Overall I am very pleased with the N1. It is fast and definitely improves upon many points over the G1. On the other hand my N1 is currently on its way to HTC (dust bunny) so I am back to using my G1 for now. The screen real estate is probably the biggest thing I miss. The performance is not as good, but not so bad as to make lose my will to live.
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Do you regret getting one?!
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No
GNOve said:
I am surrounded by purple (tmobile 3g) I live in Miami.
I have tested the nexus one with 1.6 android and noticed I had no problems connecting I was getting awesome speed
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You installed 1.6 on a nexus one? May I ask how/why?
thanks all for the replies so far
JanetPanic said:
It is not a no brainer, but it is a worthwhile upgrade. Does your friend rely heavily on the hardware keyboard? If so you might hold out for a few more months and see if the rumored N2 with keyboard comes out.
If keyboard does not matter can he hold out for another month or is he really hankering for muffin. If he can hold out then this would give these initial jitters time to settle down and be corrected.
Overall I am very pleased with the N1. It is fast and definitely improves upon many points over the G1. On the other hand my N1 is currently on its way to HTC (dust bunny) so I am back to using my G1 for now. The screen real estate is probably the biggest thing I miss. The performance is not as good, but not so bad as to make lose my will to live.
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The hardware keyboard was a big reason I went with the Droid, but I was very disappointed for the first month with it since I was so used to the (sweet) keyboard on the G1 and also quite spoiled with Cyanogen's ROMs. When the Droid got root my aggravation subsided a great deal but I'm still slightly underwhelmed (my latest complaint is that the metallic edge around the (sweet) display is starting to chip a little, grr).
When I started using Swype on the Droid, I told my buddy that I no longer consider a hard keyboard to be a must on an Android phone. I love the way Swype works and would definitely switch to the better processor, improved RAM, etc. of the N1 even without the hard keyboard. I've got my fingers crossed that the Moto Shadow goes CDMA with a blazing chip at some point, but I might "settle" for an N1 when it comes to Vz.
Thanks all for the great comments!
I just recommended the Nexus to a friend at work today, so my answer is yes. I havent had any issues with mine, I love it, I have another line and my G1's on it but I dont think Ive used it more than twice since I got my Nexus the day it came out.
It's really a simply decision man... if he's more like us, a die-hard phone junkie, then he'll probably buy it no matter what you suggest. If he is willing to wait, he probably should. Hopefully in a few weeks the 3G and dust issues will be resolved.
ei8htohms said:
A good friend is planning to upgrade from the G1 to the Nexus One very soon and is asking me if it still seems like a good idea.
He and I bought G1s within a month of its introduction the year before last (he urged me to get one in fact) and I became obsessed with modding it while he has been content with the normal (unrooted) OS and user interface. I jumped to Verizon to get on a family plan with my wife when the Droid came out, convinced it was the best Android hardware available, but when the Nexus One specs started showing up I started urging him to give it a serious look.
We both became convinced it was going to be a good upgrade for him (he's still on T-Mo) but started having some second thoughts after all the irregular 3G access and other issues started surfacing.
So the question is: Is the Nexus One still a no-brainer for an Android fan wanting to upgrade? Do you regret getting one?
Thanks for any input or advice you can offer!
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In spite of all the issues, the answer is still HELL YEAH!
The 3G problem is SOFTWARE, and will be fixed by a System Update.
i would definitely do the same and recommend the Nexus One
The Nexus One is awesome & high style! Fast, 4 bars of 3G anywhere in LV, no 3G issues with the Nexus. Go for it and never look back
thanks all for the various replies. i'm the "friend" in the original poster's post.
i do not intend to root my Nexus One.
my concern stems from the seemingly total lack of customer support should one get a defective unit. my G1 is working ok now so i don't see the need to get stomach acid if indeed the Nexus One has a larger than typical defective rate.
one poster/reply wrote that they think that the 3G connectivity and dust issues should be remedied shortly. may i respectfully disagree regarding the dust issue? i DO agree that the 3G issue may well be solved soon via a software update, but i do not agree that the dust issue will be resolved anytime soon. Production lines cannot turn on a dime so quickly and the inventory that is being sold this coming week (this coming week, week of 1/25th, is when i intend to order my Nexus One if the good folks here recommends going forward with it) were produced at least 1-2 months ago in Asia.
What do y'all think, may i ask?
thx in advance for helping me out!
My phone works great in NY. 4 bars pretty much anywhere I go.
Rooted and loving. No problems that couldn't be fixed with a little search or flash.
Coming from having the G1 for the past year, I would definately recommend the N1.
This is an HTC phone... so the dust issue will most likely always be there. Having said that, this phone is fantastic. It's got some small bugs but the hardware is brand new and this phone is all Google and HTC so any updates should come pretty swiftly once they get rolling.
I'd recommend this phone to anyone who's looking for a thin, powerful, fast device. Things are only going to get better with Android, and this phone probably won't have a hard time keeping up.
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When I started using Swype on the Droid, I told my buddy that I no longer consider a hard keyboard to be a must on an Android phone. I love the way Swype works and would definitely switch to the better processor, improved RAM, etc. of the N1 even without the hard keyboard. I've got my fingers crossed that the Moto Shadow goes CDMA with a blazing chip at some point, but I might "settle" for an N1 when it comes to Vz.
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What is Swype?
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What is Swype?
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It is an alternative keyboard. instead of typing the individual letters for a word you drag your finger from one letter to the next. It can be frustrating at times when the word you want does not appear but in general I think it is great. it is the keyboard I use as well on my N1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRUoWUhcRlE
though they have improved it some since this demo was done.
Ive had the Nexus for over a week now and its far more faster and stable than other manufacturers phones when they come out i.e. Samsung / Nokia / Blackberry.
This thing is fast and quite stable.
GO FOR IT !!!!
DualMonitors said:
thanks all for the various replies. i'm the "friend" in the original poster's post.
i do not intend to root my Nexus One.
my concern stems from the seemingly total lack of customer support should one get a defective unit. my G1 is working ok now so i don't see the need to get stomach acid if indeed the Nexus One has a larger than typical defective rate.
one poster/reply wrote that they think that the 3G connectivity and dust issues should be remedied shortly. may i respectfully disagree regarding the dust issue? i DO agree that the 3G issue may well be solved soon via a software update, but i do not agree that the dust issue will be resolved anytime soon. Production lines cannot turn on a dime so quickly and the inventory that is being sold this coming week (this coming week, week of 1/25th, is when i intend to order my Nexus One if the good folks here recommends going forward with it) were produced at least 1-2 months ago in Asia.
What do y'all think, may i ask?
thx in advance for helping me out!
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If you don't plan on rooting, the N1 is still a great phone. I know quite a few people who have one and they love it. Most of them just use it with out tinkering.
The majority of the people here root their phones. Also, keep in mind this place is somewhat of an unofficial 'support' group. People come here looking for the advice of others if/when they have trouble. While possible, I don't think it's very likely that you would would end up with defective hardware in the first place. If you're not rooting, I doubt you would have very much trouble out of HTC getting a replacement if you somehow do.
The N1 is a badass phone, I <3 mine for everything it is and am recommending it to anyone who asks me what phone they should get.
my 2 cents...
DualMonitors said:
thanks all for the various replies. i'm the "friend" in the original poster's post.
i do not intend to root my Nexus One.
my concern stems from the seemingly total lack of customer support should one get a defective unit. my G1 is working ok now so i don't see the need to get stomach acid if indeed the Nexus One has a larger than typical defective rate.
one poster/reply wrote that they think that the 3G connectivity and dust issues should be remedied shortly. may i respectfully disagree regarding the dust issue? i DO agree that the 3G issue may well be solved soon via a software update, but i do not agree that the dust issue will be resolved anytime soon. Production lines cannot turn on a dime so quickly and the inventory that is being sold this coming week (this coming week, week of 1/25th, is when i intend to order my Nexus One if the good folks here recommends going forward with it) were produced at least 1-2 months ago in Asia.
What do y'all think, may i ask?
thx in advance for helping me out!
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Its a great phone, I love my N1. Well-built, excellent form factor, and as others have said, its FAST! If you do a lot of web browsing you'll appreciate the phone, not only does it load and just move quicker than the G1, the larger screen makes reading so much more pleasurable. Also, since you're unrooted, you may or may not get 2.1 on your G1. I like 2.1 alot, its a vast improvement over 1.6.
I will say though that I do miss the physical keyboard. If you don't do a lot of typing it won't matter so much I don't think.
But seriously, its a solid phone, recommended.
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.
me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.
FLAC Vest said:
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning
I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)
FLAC Vest said:
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.
I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.
A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
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Hi all you Verizon Note 4 owners,
I noticed there wasn't an off topic thread for you guys & gals to talk about non-Note 4 related things, so I've created this place to do just that. This will be the only place off-topic discussions are allowed.
Of course, not anything goes, stick to the rules and keep it civil. Report any questionable post(s) & don't let things get out of hand or it'll be closed.
Thanks & Enjoy!
So anyone read theres speculation that Lollipop isnt coming to the Note 4 till may. Im not too worried about it myself cause my DE is perfect, however my wife is disappointed (she has retail version) as some of her friends got it on their phones (S5, and some other brands) and she cant understand what's taking so long, after I explained things to her shes not convinced and feels lile we are being screwed. Ahh the joys life.
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So anyone read theres speculation that Lollipop isnt coming to the Note 4 till may. Im not too worried about it myself cause my DE is perfect, however my wife is disappointed (she has retail version) as some of her friends got it on their phones (S5, and some other brands) and she cant understand what's taking so long, after I explained things to her shes not convinced and feels lile we are being screwed. Ahh the joys life.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I got the DE and wife got retail. She wants some lollipop. I told her she's out of luck and the only lollipop she'll be getting is from me lol
I love the android system but there is one game I miss the most from apple. Fantastic Contraption. If you never heard of it YouTube it. It is an amazing game. I am sure this is probably one of the dumbest question ever but can it be ported to android?
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I love the android system but there is one game I miss the most from apple. Fantastic Contraption. If you never heard of it YouTube it. It is an amazing game. I am sure this is probably one of the dumbest question ever but can it be ported to android?
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I miss one thing about apple, camera+ app. The best photo editing app in existence and the developer "tap tap tap" doesn't want to come to android. Just being an a$$.
Other than that apple is like a bad history for me. lol
I learned a shocking feature on iPhones the other day, if you go into the privacy settings there is a feature in there that tracks your address the time you spent there where you travel to everything you do in plain English and very easily accessible. Does android have a feature like that built in? I hope not lol not that I go any place bad it just seemed a little intrusive. I do know they have GPS and all that but that was really precise.
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I learned a shocking feature on iPhones the other day, if you go into the privacy settings there is a feature in there that tracks your address the time you spent there where you travel to everything you do in plain English and very easily accessible. Does android have a feature like that built in? I hope not lol not that I go any place bad it just seemed a little intrusive. I do know they have GPS and all that but that was really precise.
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I don't know, but we do have a file in the system called "mobile tracker" that is, I think, used to track your phone just in case you lose it. Not sure, but I usually freeze/delete it with titanium back up. Also, if you're rooted, you can always install xprivacy module that prevents anything you suspect.
What's the longest you guys ever went without rooting your devices? I would say a month, I've just gotten my first Android phone (ZTE Warp) and the bootloader wasn't unlocked yet, I checked the forums every day until I seen the almighty *HOW TO ROOT ZTE WARP* boy was I excited. Ever since then I've never owned a android if I couldn't root it but this might be my first time, I'm looking to purchase the note 4 this April or May I only have the option of getting the att&t or Verizon variant (just my luck, lol) most likely I'll chose which ever gets rooted first. I'm sure by either April or May it should be rooted.
MartyMar_XVII said:
What's the longest you guys ever went without rooting your devices? I would say a month, I've just gotten my first Android phone (ZTE Warp) and the bootloader wasn't unlocked yet, I checked the forums every day until I seen the almighty *HOW TO ROOT ZTE WARP* boy was I excited. Ever since then I've never owned a android if I couldn't root it but this might be my first time, I'm looking to purchase the note 4 this April or May I only have the option of getting the att&t or Verizon variant (just my luck, lol) most likely I'll chose which ever gets rooted first. I'm sure by either April or May it should be rooted.
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I had my Verizon HTC One M7 for a couple months before it was rooted, and even then you had to send your phone away and pay $25. I think a month or two after that beaups and someone else came up with a method that worked pretty well on linux and that was it. Then I had the M8 for a couple of months until there was a way but it also cost $25 and ran directly on the phone. I'm not so much concerned about root, really. I just want ****ing lollipop.
Hey everyone. Trafalger888. Used to be an RC but haven't been around for a couple years. Life happened. Just getting back into everything. Lits of catching up to do. Just wanted to make a quick introduction.
murderdock said:
I had my Verizon HTC One M7 for a couple months before it was rooted, and even then you had to send your phone away and pay $25. I think a month or two after that beaups and someone else came up with a method that worked pretty well on linux and that was it. Then I had the M8 for a couple of months until there was a way but it also cost $25 and ran directly on the phone. I'm not so much concerned about root, really. I just want ****ing lollipop.
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U gotta be [email protected]$!n me! You had to send your phone away? Lol
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You know I wasn't so bothered at first by the lack of lollipop, in my past I was changing roms several times a week or day to get things going however thats changed now since I got my DE. What bothers me now now about the delay and the S6 and other things do I want to stay with Samsung anymore after this breaks or I want a new phone. Is it really time to say that Samsung is just isnt what it could should be?
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You know I wasn't so bothered at first by the lack of lollipop, in my past I was changing roms several times a week or day to get things going however thats changed now since I got my DE. What bothers me now now about the delay and the S6 and other things do I want to stay with Samsung anymore after this breaks or I want a new phone. Is it really time to say that Samsung is just isnt what it could should be?
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I don't know. I have always enjoyed their product. But the delays can be frustrating. I agree. This is the one thing lacking for me. Yet I still continue to purchase their phones, because in the end they still do make the best phone. Just my opinion of course.
My wife has a retail note 4 and while she doesn't understand all the issues tied with lollipop right now she feels dumped. I dont see the big deal myself as im happy the way my phone is however for roms things have been VERY slow going... but then again im not really sure what other roms are going to bring that I cant do myself. Which I think most of us DE owners can do. I think if root was found and oprn bootloader things might be alot different but whats bothering me is Samsung's direction right now. If this is signs of the Note 5 and 6 etc. I just might go elsewhere. Some videos were released today showing the note 4 against the S6 and only slight speed differences in actual use and even camera loading. So over all for now Im happy to have a removable battery and SD card and a unlocked bootloader.
I can imagine how overloaded this section will be the minute root has been achieved, 404 errors and everything, lol. Anyway being that this is a off topic thread, I would like to say that the snow here in NY is annoying -__- .
How about the release of Sprints SM-N910P Lolipop.. Two questions who wants to see what they can do with it and see what works (of course it will lack advanced calling version X. Then comes the question will this influence Verizon to release it.
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My wife has a retail note 4 and while she doesn't understand all the issues tied with lollipop right now she feels dumped. I dont see the big deal myself as im happy the way my phone is however for roms things have been VERY slow going... but then again im not really sure what other roms are going to bring that I cant do myself. Which I think most of us DE owners can do. I think if root was found and oprn bootloader things might be alot different but whats bothering me is Samsung's direction right now. If this is signs of the Note 5 and 6 etc. I just might go elsewhere. Some videos were released today showing the note 4 against the S6 and only slight speed differences in actual use and even camera loading. So over all for now Im happy to have a removable battery and SD card and a unlocked bootloader.
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And yes root and an open bootloader would be nice. Look what happened with the S3 though. But I truly feel that the release and things like the locked bootloaders are not so much the manufacturer but the carrier. I may be wrong but I beleieve that pressure from the carrier is the main reason they do this.
What are the chances of me swapping a one month old Note 4 for a Nexus 6? Good or slim to none
Did you use a regular 2 year upgrade or edge to get the note 4?
Your best bet would be calling customer service. But even that is entirely dependent on how nice of a rep you get. If one says no politely hang up and call back. They make notes on your account when you call so don't call a bunch in 1 day. I work at an authorized retailer and most stores can't do anything after the 14 days.
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Samsung vs. HTC now that some key features are being taken away. Hmm.
Now that we have unlock, custom bootloader and root, when will we start seeing custom ROMs for the MPE?
Are we waiting for Google or Moto to release the factory ROM file? Any guesses on timing?
I am excited to see all the wonderful customization that can be done for this developer friendly phone!
My 64GB MPE is scheduled for delivery by October 1. Ordered on Sept 10. I doubt this schedule will be met since there seems to be shortage of 64GB phones.
By the time you get your phone we should have something. Devs got one booting. Bunch of bugs though. In do time.
Builds are being tested. It shouldn't be too much longer.
I've done one, pretty stock just deodexed etc and some minor mods. If I get a chance to work on it should be available in a day or 2
Phone is at my doorstep today. Tonight I will be unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP, backing-up the default image, rooting and installing Xposed.
I was hoping to have a custom ROM, but am fine with waiting a bit for the magic to happen.
I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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I really hope the openness of this phone draws development. I went with this over the N5X due to the memory card slot. Plus, my wife will kill me if I'm ordering a third phone in four months time.
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My wife will kill me if I'm ordering a third phone in four months time.
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Hahaha, I'm in the same boat brother.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this phone gets some love from the devs. To be honest though, I'm pretty satisfied with it with just xposed mods so even if it doesn't make huge waves, I think I'll keep it.
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Hahaha, I'm in the same boat brother.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this phone gets some love from the devs. To be honest though, I'm pretty satisfied with it with just xposed mods so even if it doesn't make huge waves, I think I'll keep it.
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Yeah, I don't know if I can live with just 32gb.
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Yeah, I don't know if I can live with just 32gb.
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Oh, that sucks.
Luckily, I'm fine 16 + 32gb card.
I'm just thinking out loud but I don't see the new Nexus being worth the money. No sdcard is a real killer for me. The camera probably won't be that great. Hopefully an update will fix some of our camera woes. I could care less about a fingerprint reader. I'm hoping some developers will not be crazy about the new Nexus and switch over to this phone. Hash is working on the CM but I have not heard anyone else say they planned on doing much with this device. Hopefully after the dust settles on the Nexus launch we might get more developers. This phone is a dream for many users and developers with the ability to be unlocked. Lenovo dropped the ball not giving this "Developer's Edition" status. I'm really pleased with it so far for the money.
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Oh, that sucks.
Luckily, I'm fine 16 + 32gb card.
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Yeah, I went with 32gb, and a 64gb card. If the new Nexus had a 64gb model, it would help sway me, but I'm going to have to think long and hard with 32gb being the largest.
I've been working hard on a custom rom for this but it's having trouble booting. And I'm not the only one with this problem.
Coming from Samsung devices where I have done many custom roms this device is a little trickier. I'll get there but at the moment its a pain.
I have no problem restoring a backup though so I may just create a nandroid (minus the data) that users can flash via restore for the time being
Keep at it, it will come eventually.
-Funk
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I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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It'll have more than a few ROMs. Being that it's the same phone across the board, it'll have more development than nearly every other phone (other than the Nexus devices, obviously). I have absolutely zero worry that lack of development will be an issue for the Pure. The complaints you see around here most likely won't scare devs off. They're smart enough to know you get that with almost every phone.
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I've been working hard on a custom rom for this but it's having trouble booting. And I'm not the only one with this problem.
Coming from Samsung devices where I have done many custom roms this device is a little trickier. I'll get there but at the moment its a pain.
I have no problem restoring a backup though so I may just create a nandroid (minus the data) that users can flash via restore for the time being
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Cheers bro lots of people counting on you
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When? Now, cm running here very well. Any doubters out there, devs hustled and already an excellent first pass!
I am with i-not comments
We have done a deodexed, some mods, but flashing a fresh rom leaves us bootign stopping on Animation,no matter what we have tried so far.
So i can tell you i-not and myslef have been workign on ROM's.
Never promise if, or when folks...
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I am with i-not comments
We have done a deodexed, some mods, but flashing a fresh rom leaves us bootign stopping on Animation,no matter what we have tried so far.
So i can tell you i-not and myslef have been workign on ROM's.
Never promise if, or when folks...
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Glad to see so many familiar names committing to this phone. I love your blue themes.
When its ready... I think.
Yeah~
Hey
So all the sudden my N6P (that was already with a fix to bootloop of death and had faulty battery in place) died. It doesn`t show any charging indication or power at all. I`m thinking is the end of the line for it, but need to ask, anyone have a suggestion to try bring it back to live?
Thanks
lu4414 said:
Hey
So all the sudden my N6P (that was already with a fix to bootloop of death and had faulty battery in place) died. It doesn`t show any charging indication or power at all. I`m thinking is the end of the line for it, but need to ask, anyone have a suggestion to try bring it back to live?
Thanks
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Nope, and at this point it probably isn't worth your time. While there still have been security updates, Google's commitment to provide any updates ended before Christmas, so I suspect we're pretty close to EOL on this. I just went back to my 6p after an unfortunate 8 months with an Xperia ZX Premium, so now I'm hoping I can suck a few months out of it while I ponder my next device.
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Nope, and at this point it probably isn't worth your time. While there still have been security updates, Google's commitment to provide any updates ended before Christmas, so I suspect we're pretty close to EOL on this. I just went back to my 6p after an unfortunate 8 months with an Xperia ZX Premium, so now I'm hoping I can suck a few months out of it while I ponder my next device.
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That really sucks. I never gonna go buy Google Hardware again, it's not the first time they let old users down (multiple new launchers and minor tweaks never came down to Nexus or older Pixel) even with the promised of latest software always. Then N6P was QC screwed everywhere.
Going to a OnePlus now and being very sad of having a $500 paper weight on the drawer
Thanks for the answer and best of luck with your new device
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That really sucks. I never gonna go buy Google Hardware again, it's not the first time they let old users down (multiple new launchers and minor tweaks never came down to Nexus or older Pixel) even with the promised of latest software always. Then N6P was QC screwed everywhere. Going to a OnePlus now and being very sad of having a $500 paper weight on the drawer
Thanks for the answer and best of luck with your new device
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Well, to be fair, the biggest issue with the 6p device was the battery failures and early on, Google was swapping devices, but the service sucked in getting Huawei to do anything after that. However, yes, the software lifecycle on older Nexus devices is weak. I suspect the main reason is that Google has moved to a 'more' closed ecosystem with the Pixel line. Nexus devices were always supposed to be more open, easy to hack and reasonably priced. The Pixel strategy is to more directly compete with the Apple iPhone model. Premium everything. Whether they'll support those longer? Who knows.
And, my new device is already toast but thanks. I'd buy a Pixel way before I'd buy another Sony Xperia. They allow unlocked bootloaders and claim to support development, but the minute you unlock the BL it renders the camera unusable. Devs did develop a patch, but there was virtually no development for the device. I've already had 6 hardware feature failures in 8 months of use and I bought it as an unlocked int'l version that would have to be shipped overseas. I doubt they'd do anything because it's been rooted and flashed, so I'm just leaving.
I'm back to the 6p for a while. So far they are still providing security updates, but since no Nexus devices are part of the Android P developer preview, you can bet there will be no Android 9 for it, so I suspect that's when the security updates will stop too.
Hi,
Do you have tried remove de back case and after that the battery?