Notification LED - Desire HD General

I'm noticing that the LED flashes only some of the time for things like Twitter and SMS. The notification bar has the update on it but the LED seems to not want to play ball.
Has anyone else experienced this or similar? I know the LED works because it shows when charging and when the battery was low it flashed. Specifically I use Touiteur and had the LED set to blue but even on the standard green it's hit and miss.
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Mine doesn't flash when I get email, but seems to work for SMS or missed calls.

I was hoping someone would make a thread about this, I never got around to making one!
Mine flashes for everything which is annoying!!! I get a lot of emails so is constantly flashing! I've tried going into Settings -> Display -> Notifications and deselecting everything except Missed Calls and SMS/MMS but made no difference!

i'm so used to Magic 8 colors... shame DHD has only orange and green
also it somehow tends to turn it off after a while being on.

I've sent an email to HTC to ask about it since it's a big issue to me. Notification sounds feel similarly hit and miss so I'm suspecting some trigger is being missed, possibly due to the new Sense UI. I'll post any reply I get.
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I've got two led's. One for the battery on the right of the speaker and one on the left behind the speaker. The left one is for notifications only n I must say I'm disappointed as its located being the speakers its not as visible as I would like it to be. Is there anyway to get the battery led to function as a notification led as its not covered so much more visible?

I've got a reply but nothing helpful. So far it seems they're willing to blame app compatibility. I've asked for information regarding any changes that have been made to the LED notification system on the Desire HD and now I wait for another reply.
I told them I had no such issues on two other Android phones and they seem to be implying that the apps are coded for specific phones when we all know apps are coded for an SDK version. To quote the part of the reply...
"All the functions/programs you mean are made for Nexus and G1/Dream most of the times, Desire and some other are similar enough for it to work. Cannot help you with third party software."
Pretty clear the guy doesn't have a clue about this so I'm hoping if I nag long enough he'll pass me on to someone with more knowledge.
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lefty83 said:
I've got two led's. One for the battery on the right of the speaker and one on the left behind the speaker. The left one is for notifications only n I must say I'm disappointed as its located being the speakers its not as visible as I would like it to be. Is there anyway to get the battery led to function as a notification led as its not covered so much more visible?
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I see two LEDs up top but charging uses the same LED as the notification system. The left one behind the grill. I haven't seen the second one light so it's probably the proximity sensor.
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i only see one led too (with two colors).
Dyonas tel HTC that even GMail (2.2 app) acts like that... and gmail.apk 2.2 aint made for g1!

Another really pointless reply from them.. in the initial contact I mentioned the camera being misaligned so that's what the first part is referring to. Here's the latest reply and below it is how I have just responded.
Dear <me>,
Since receiving your e-mail i have looked for any more known cases and was unsuccessful if you are concerned that this may cause issues i recommend that you take the device back to the retailer.
Regarding the LED,
We do not give developer support so i cannot help you with this.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number <not important>.
Sincerely,
Adrian
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Response to it from me..
Hi,
With regards to the LED notifications, I'm not asking for developer support or any support in fact. I'm simply trying to find out if HTC have changed the method for using them with the Desire HD. You said that programs are coded for specific phones and I'm sorry but that's not true. They are made for SDK versions, most going as far back as Android 1.6 for widest compatibility, so any changes in the programs affecting the LED notifications would show in ALL versions, not just the version shipping with the Desire HD.
This again points to either HTC changing something with the Desire HD or a programming bug with the Sense UI in some way. I realise this isn't an easy issue to look into but it is a very important one and while I appreciate you're trying your best, I will not let this issue drop until I get a more satisfactory answer.
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To me this is a very big deal because if you leave the phone for a few minutes and aren't close enough to hear an audio notification the LED is what I rely on. Missing notifications like this I might expect from a custom ROM but I haven't touched the phone in any way like that. I didn't see your reply in time to mention the GMail issue and I only have my experience to go on which is Twitter updates not always firing. You should raise a ticked too, the more we get raising the issue the better the chance they'll look into it.

i stop sending tickets to HTC last year... they never fix anything.
I rather find a perm root and put CM onto it!

Their latest and seemingly final reply seems to have something that may point to an answer. Unfortunately I lack the knowledge to check if it is of any use. The guy suggested any changes would be in the Kernel and linked me to the source code area. Is anyone able to look into the source code and see if there are changes to the notification LED system for the DHD? It's pointless not useful to ask app developers to look into it until we have something concrete to point at as a cause.

Dyonas said:
Their latest and seemingly final reply seems to have something that may point to an answer. Unfortunately I lack the knowledge to check if it is of any use. The guy suggested any changes would be in the Kernel and linked me to the source code area. Is anyone able to look into the source code and see if there are changes to the notification LED system for the DHD? It's pointless not useful to ask app developers to look into it until we have something concrete to point at as a cause.
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can you leave the code sample, please?
thanks

The source code? It's available on http://developer.htc.com to download.
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I asked Cyanogen about this and he thinks the lights driver he wrote for the G2 may work.
Being a basic user I have no idea how to try that out without instructions so... I've done the fact finding, who's going to help with this part?

My email LED notification has not been working properly, sometimes yes but mostly no.
Got email mid morning today, sound and LED worked. Left it in this state for several hours still okay. Just got another sound notification for the same previous email, how does that work
Think this is yet another bug....

I've now had this happen with the GMAIL app so I'm bugging them some more.
Would there be any point in posting in the development section to ask for help using the G2 lights driver from Cyanogen?
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I've also had GMail fail on LED notification and SMS! It seems to be random now. Coming from a WM6.5 defector I quietly smile to myself

I think I figured it out and if im right it's really stupid. I had two notifications earlier, one for Twitter and the other for e-mail (not gmail). The LED wasn't flashing for either. I opened Touiteur to view the updates thete which cleared that notification and straight away the LED began flashing for the e-mail alert.
Why one notification would disable the LED if it's already on I have no idea but the above has happened more than once now. There's an LED test on the phone which HTC had me test. It has other tests too for anyone curious.
Key this into the dialer.
*#*#DIAG#*#*
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Where can i find the test for the LED? Mine doesnt seem to flash for any alerts.

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[Application] FlashApp : use your LED Camera as a flashlight

Hi HTC Desire users.
I develop a little and basic application that allows you to use your HTC Desire as a flashlight, using your LED Camera. This application is call "FlashApp" and is available on the Android Market (http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-damunix-android-flashapp-CDiD.aspx)
There is 2 mode :
- "flash": for a short time, but full power light.
- "on" : for a longer timer, but less power light.
It only works on the HTC Desire for the moment. I made some tests on the Nexus One, and My application will note work without rooting it.
If you have any questions, suggestions, idea, post it on this thread.
Note : this is the official thread of the app, the old one was : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667474
hey, thanks for the app! great use for it! It made it to the center of homescreens.
Can you make a on/off flash mode? So that it will last while on and will stop on closing/or pressing of?
Thanks
Great work, thanks. can you create a nice icon for it?
blackfox888 said:
Great work, thanks. can you create a nice icon for it?
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A new icon will be put in the next update
@ Damunix
Great app - I was following the other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6374683#post6374683 and did a write up which should be on the front page later today... fyi it links to the original thread.
Thanks , but please add icon .
Great job Damunix!
At least someone gets it. Saves people having to read every thread which asked for such an app unsuccessfully as well as some rather vapid, churlish and irascible troll posts.
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Good work fella. Thanks
Great work mate, I'm glad you got it up as an official app. I don't actually have a Desire yet but it should be arriving on Wednesday and this was the only missing feature that I felt a bit let down about. Now it's there and I can't wait to receive my Desire and download it. Thanks for your work.
Very useful app for getting my gas & electric meter readings! TYVM
Awesome! thanks
I cooked your app posted in the previous thread into my rom and changed the icon. Maybe you like it, looks good on a Amoled screen, its attached
Did you change something with your app when you started this thread?
Regards!
Excellent app! It's only a little thing, but makes life so much easier when trying to find the right key!
Just a little update,
new : Application icon, thanks to Pr0sper
this is because a lot of people ask for an icon as soon as possible
wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! works on my Desire ( Orange UK ) fab!!.. Infact I'm still seeing the light every time I close my eyes!!!!!!!!!.... Note: don't look direct at the light .. well done!"
I don't understand why, but in the last version it seems that there is a sign problem of the application.
Sorry about it, you need to uninstall and re-install it
works great! thnx!
I installed on my T Mob Desire - app works almost.
Light stays on - flash only flashes briefly. Can't get full brightness permanently on.
Is this the idea?
Yup, you can only have the full brightness (flash) on for a short time. There are some worries that leaving it on full brightness permanently could damage the LED.
I think the normal, lower brightness setting to be adequate in most situations.
@subharmonic
This thread might also help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667474

A Great Idea!!!

Im pretty sure we all agree that the EVO has sub-par notifications. It doesn't have alternative colors for the LED and when plugged in you get absolutely no notification, unless you use that app that I forgot the name of...
But anyways I was wondering if it would be possible to use the capacitive buttons as a Notification source.
Maybe we could have the home button blink for sms
the menu for calls, return for emails, etc. I don't know much about software development and all that crud, but I was just reading this idea on another phones forum and I figured it would be something extremely worthwhile for evo users, and in all honesty, its a pretty dam brilliant idea if we could just get it to work.
don't bash me if its not even possible. I was just simply trying to help my fellow EVO users by sharing a creative thought.
in the theme and app section there is apk that does this already well it flashes all of them for notifications
jrdejavux said:
in the theme and app section there is apk that does this already well it flashes all of them for notifications
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i tried looking for it and i dont see one. there is however a thread requesting a port of the moment for one...maybe im blind??? i could very well be...
i also just went through 6 pages..
anyone got the name/link?
thanks..
i coulda pulled the whole... WFFF deal.. but..
i want this too? hah
Thanks people
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jr - awesome thanks. in my defense, i didnt do a search.. i just felt id take a stroll through that section and didnt find it, cheers
found it in 2 seconds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697430&highlight=notification+light
look at post number 8 for the apk
That app was for the Samsung Moment, it doesnt work on the EVO.....
You know this idea isn't half bad and it may be possible through a combination of the kernel and an application. For reference there is a hack someone made for the G1 that allows you to use the leds under the buttons for notification of the sd card. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685947
That said, maybe we could use this idea to help us with this hack.
i would be more than happy to donate if someone could get this working. missing this feature from my pre
danon.brown said:
i would be more than happy to donate if someone could get this working. missing this feature from my pre
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Would be awesome.
How are blinking buttons better than a blinking LED?
I think more convenient than flashing the capacitive buttons (which would probably use more battery too) is just flashing the LED for more than 5 minutes (indefinitely), and also flashing the LED even during charging, as I mentioned in this thread forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712803.
r546 said:
I think more convenient than flashing the capacitive buttons (which would probably use more battery too) is just flashing the LED for more than 5 minutes (indefinitely), and also flashing the LED even during charging, as I mentioned in this thread forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712803.
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the buttons wouldn't have to flash continuously. It could be just for a few seconds and we can set up reminders like every 5 or 10 mins, that way hardly any battery life is consumed..

[THINK TANK]POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOUND ~ fix froyo messaging to the wrong person???

From this thread and my experience it seems as if the Vibrant based roms (Cog 2.4) do not have this issue. This lead me to cruise around the vibrant section and I found a couple useful files.
Applying sombionix's modified TW MMS file on clockwork has seemed to have fixed the issue for me. I do need to use/test it for a little longer to be sure. I triedseveral times to reproduce the bug and it is texting the right people If it didn't have that stupid gloss look it would be perfect
I am going to give this a tryCyanogenMod 6 MMS Modified for puzzle lock by untermensch . Since it is part of CM this should 100% not have the issue, and it is nicely modified to make use of the puzzle lock screen.
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From what I understand this is an issue with all froyo roms, I have experienced this with most cognition builds since 2.2b3-2.3b3. When switching between a message conversation and new messages in the stock messaging app, messages are often sent to the wrong person.
I am going to try my best to describe what I believe leads to the problem, these steps may not replicate the issue exactly:
1. I must have just recieved and replied to a message conversation with "individual A"
2. I receive a message from "individual B"
3. Without leaving A's conversation I pull down the notification bar, and access "B's" new message and conversation.
4. while viewing "individual B's" conversation i try to send a reply to B, but it switches me back to "individual A's" conversation and sends them the reply (instead of B).
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This has been very frustrating, embarrassing, and incriminating -- especially when I have accidentally sent messages to my boss, mother, and certain coworkers that don't understand some of the "things" me and my friends txt about.
I have created this thread to hopefully get everyone thinking about a way to fix this. In my opinion this is one of the biggest bugs with the Froyo roms.
If you have something constructive to add please join in the discussion. Suggestions like, do not use the notification bar, or install handcent are not helpful.
Thanks!
I use chompsms and have never had that problem, even with the quick reply feature.
I use the default sms, and have no such problem.
Get rid of the ( and ) in your contact numbers.
I don't know what to tell you man, I just tried this on Cog 2.3b3 and couldn't replicate your problem.
Perhaps you haven't found all required pieces to replicate the issue.
And shouldn't this be in the general Q&A forum?
I too have had this problem. Has gotten me in a lot of trouble also I just don't use the notification bar anymore. Your not the only one
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I have had the issue with some of the ROMs. With 2.4, everything seems ok.
wow! I have not had this problem yet, but thanks for the heads up. this could really get me in trouble with the wifey.
This *almost* got my ass on fire. Thankfully it was vague and didnt cause any alarms. We gotta figure it out, and also. When i open up the messaging app from the icon on the home screen, instead of going to the person i was talking to last, it goes to someone in the middle of the convo list.
Now i made it a habit of looking at who im texting before clicking on the send button.
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I started using handcent when I first got my phone and haven't looked back.
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cog 2.4 doesn't have this issue
I have the same problem!
It is extremely frustrating and embarrassing sometimes! (especially if you are talking about a girl and you mistexted.... to the girl!)
Im running cog 2.2 and gonna upgrade to 2.4 to see if that fixes the problem.
I just switched to cog 2.3b4 from 2.4.1 and the issue is back. I am gonna try using the Mms.apk from the vibrant build to sweet if that fixes the problem.
It is annoying that my first couple hours on 2.3.b4 I already noticed the bug. I didn't have any issues with 2.4.1 in the few days I used it.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is are those having these issues (I have never had this issue) restoring old texts after flashing? Use handcent myself
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zelendel said:
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is are those having these issues (I have never had this issue) restoring old texts after flashing? Use handcent myself
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I don't restore texts and I get this issue a lot. It seems to happen most when I'm already in one persons text, I get a notification for a new text from another person, so I go to the text using notification pulldown. Once i type and hit reply, it moves the text to the person who's text I was in before I recieved the new one.
I hope that wording makes sense lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841011 I just flashed that in cwm and I wasn't able to reproduce the issue.
I will see if it fixes the problem completely. It is really easy to apply if anyone else wants to try it.
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned is are those having these issues (I have never had this issue) restoring old texts after flashing? Use handcent myself
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Because you use hand cent is exactly why you don't get it.
I just about got into this very trouble the other day. I am running cog 2.4.1, and if I reply to a message from the drop down menu from the top, it sends it to the last person I was talking to in the messaging folder. Regardless of who it says you are texting! This really needs to be fixed. The person I'm talking about isn't always the last one I talked to!
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I just about got into this very trouble the other day. I am running cog 2.4.1, and if I reply to a message from the drop down menu from the top, it sends it to the last person I was talking to in the messaging folder. Regardless of who it says you are texting! This really needs to be fixed. The person I'm talking about isn't always the last one I talked to!
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Whoa, you got the issue on 2.4? I usually have the bug effect me once every couple days, but while on 2.4 I haven't noticed. I have been trying to make it happen with the vibrant mms.apk, but I haven't been effected yet.
I really hope designgears notices this problem and helps fix outif it exists in the vibrant based roms too.
Yep. And I do not restore messages either. When I wipe one, I wipe it!
I think it can be reproduced by going to the messages folder and texting some one. (Person a) then after you have replayed to person a, have person b text u. Answer with the pull down menu from the top. It worls the first time, not after that, and although it says its going to person b, it is really going to person a. Some times it takes several seconds for the names to change. I actually sent 3 txt back to back to the wrong person! Had to hit the back button to get back to the root of the message folder to see they all went to the wrong person. It clearly said it was going to person b!

developing for the atrix LED notification light

Since the LED is not on every android phone, i guess the adroid sdk doesn't have anything to support it. however, there are some apps on the market that support it, and i want to know how hard would it be to code something...
i currently use a blackberry and indeed the light is extremely useful. I bought a program that will let me assign a different color (even multiple colors) to almost all events , even particular contacts!
if some dev has some insight i would love to read about it
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Since the LED is not on every android phone, i guess the adroid sdk doesn't have anything to support it. however, there are some apps on the market that support it, and i want to know how hard would it be to code something...
i currently use a blackberry and indeed the light is extremely useful. I bought a program that will let me assign a different color (even multiple colors) to almost all events , even particular contacts!
if some dev has some insight i would love to read about it
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i am very interested in this as well as i see it has multi color support as i have seen red, blue, purple green etc already... first step will be to get logs of the led getting lit for all colors and compare .... i am working on a variety of projects so if you would start with obtaining that i will look at logs and see where to go from there
Check out general forum. Sounds like the app called blink is what you want. There's a whole post about led for notifications.
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i know there are apps for it, but the ones i have seen aren't open source therefore i can't learn from them unless the devs are friendly enough (haven't asked)
and for what i have read, most if not all aren't fully compatible with the atrix yet (mixed report on the blink one)
franciscojavierleon said:
Since the LED is not on every android phone, i guess the adroid sdk doesn't have anything to support it. however, there are some apps on the market that support it, and i want to know how hard would it be to code something...
i currently use a blackberry and indeed the light is extremely useful. I bought a program that will let me assign a different color (even multiple colors) to almost all events , even particular contacts!
if some dev has some insight i would love to read about it
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The android SDK certainly supports the notification LED, if the hardware doesn't support it then it just ignores what the program tries to tell it about the led.
See this: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Notification.html#ledARGB
Light flow works with the Atrix and allows you to assign different colors to specific apps:
https://market.android.com/developer?pub=Rage+Consulting+Limited
andy2na said:
Light flow works with the Atrix and allows you to assign different colors to specific apps:
https://market.android.com/developer?pub=Rage+Consulting+Limited
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I would agree with that! I'm the author.
Yes the android sdk does support the notification color as s3gfault points out.
Motorola phones are one of the very few that actually implement the standard android notification method. It's all the other manufactureres that make general support difficult.
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I would agree with that! I'm the author.
Yes the android sdk does support the notification color as s3gfault points out.
Motorola phones are one of the very few that actually implement the standard android notification method. It's all the other manufactureres that make general support difficult.
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Very good app. Thank you!
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Very good app. Thank you!
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I agree.
I bought the full version and I am really happy with it.
No problems at all.
i think you all should try LEDme know.
it what we use on our HD2's
LED me know
sorry, jsut stopped by as im more than certainly getting a Atrix. so im reading up before i asked stupid questions lol
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i think you all should try LEDme know.
it what we use on our HD2's
LED me know
sorry, jsut stopped by as im more than certainly getting a Atrix. so im reading up before i asked stupid questions lol
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last time i tried that it didnt actually work, only worked when you hit test.
regarding LED flow, is there a way to keep stock colour on apps and only change gmail?
reason is whatsapp has a nice light blue but colour option is led flow is different and there are loads of apps i dont have installed that are supported but would want allow system colour and not blue. ...if any of that made sense
This app does NOT work correctly on ATRIX it has problems with the LED, also, it cannot show a charging LED for the battery, it just fails. I have tried all I can find and guess what? none do what I want. If the battery is charging, it should be solid red, if its charged solid green, turn off when screen is ON unless its still plugged in. Also, low battery warning notification with sound you choose, when I did this the notification went off when the battery was fully charged and there was NO LED lit. I don't understand.

Blinking Hardware Buttons

Hey together,
i know that many people asked similary questions about that topic, but it is not exactly my question. I don't like the small notification LED in my DHD so I wonder if it would be possible to let the hardware buttons blink when I receive a message oder mail for example. Not just lighten up - blinking. The generell answer is that a kernel is needed which supports BTN blinking. Long time ago i got Android Revolution HD from mike on my DHD, but don't remember the version. With the app "L.E.D. me know" it was possible to let them blink, but on current ROM's like IceColdSandwhich or newer versions of Android Revolution HD it isn't. Some one know how to get them to blink again and if it is really necessary to change the kernel, which one do I need?
Greetings
If I understood correctly, look for BLN in icecold. It should be somewhere in settings or rom control.
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Hey nemo there is an app called lightflow that does what you are looking for
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@Teichopsia:
Not specifically in icecold.The feature in IceCold only allows to let the hardware buttons lighten up and not let them blink. That's not what im looking for
@ Roundtableprez:
Thanks for the hint, but doesn't work for me.
1) Buttons don't blink, just lighten up and keep solid.
2) Cant turn on display again -> have to reboot phone by removing battery.
Any other ideas?

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