UMA ? - G2 and Desire Z General

I have seen a bunch of UMA/Tethering threads that seem to taper off into tethering which more people seem to be into.
However, I barely get any signal in my house and really need UMA or I am going to have to return my sweet new G2 which I don't really want to do. How close are we to getting a UMA hack or the real thing in the form of update.
Thank you in advance.

I agree. I am in the same position. The Wifi calling thread deteriorated into a Tethering thread and what I really need is exactly the same thing. I have to use my BB Bold 9700 with UMA once I get home to my house. I purchased the G2 with the hopes of Wifi Calling coming to it.
I am still believing that it WILL before year end, but obviously the sooner the better as I am getting sick of switching my sim card back and forth constantly.

Is there anyone in the know?

Well, I returned my G2 (within the 14 day initial purchase). Maybe I will buy it again. I just can't deal with the intermittent no service in my house. Even my ATT iPhone had 1 bar in my house which assured the phone would ring and I could text.
If UMA comes to the G2 then I will be a very happy owner of it. Till then, pitty me for my use of a 3G iphone.

hopefully when the mytouchhd..or 4g? comes out the g2 gets the uma as well.. i get some ok signal at home but i want my UMA already.. ive had it for the last couple of years with my BB's

Just to clarify here. The Wifi calling on Android will not hand off to the cell network like it does on the Blackberry phones that support it.
Found a source to confirm!
hxxp://blog.wirelessground.com/t-mobile-wi-fi-calling/
(Note: that was just the first result that came up for a google search of the topic)

For me, the not handing off isn't a problem. I rarely walk out the door with the phone against my ear. I just want to get phone calls in my house.

I have a Blackberry, and so does several of my friends. I've never seen a Blackberry hand off a UMA call to the network or vice versa. It always drops the call when it transitions between UMA and the cell network. So it sounds like it'll work just like a Blackberry.

If you have Gmail open on your computer and your phone does not have a signal it will ring on your computer. Not sure how I did it or if its auto but it will get me by til UMA/WiFi callings comes.

TheMercuryMan said:
If you have Gmail open on your computer and your phone does not have a signal it will ring on your computer. Not sure how I did it or if its auto but it will get me by til UMA/WiFi callings comes.
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That's a feature of Google Voice. If you have setup Google Voice in your phone's voicemail settings, enabled GChat as a phone in your Google Voice settings, and set the Google Voice forwarding options for your mobile phone to ring your other phones before going to voicemail, then calls to your mobile number will ring in GChat.

swags said:
That's a feature of Google Voice. If you have setup Google Voice in your phone's voicemail settings, enabled GChat as a phone in your Google Voice settings, and set the Google Voice forwarding options for your mobile phone to ring your other phones before going to voicemail, then calls to your mobile number will ring in GChat.
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Cool thanks I had no idea i was in the other room watching TV and my computer started ringing. Wouldnt be too good if my wife was on the computer and my GF called ( if i had one lol). Any way to get rid of the 14 txt messages, email, and a google voice notification every time i get a voicemail?

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data connect = incoming calls straight to VM

so i just noticed this today (i have the leaked ROM installed) that when i am using the web or checking my email if someone calls they go straight to my voice mail -- i haven't had the phone long enough to know if this is how it is supposed to be or not. Is there a way to get to cancel the data connection and show me someone is calling?
ikemiller2662 said:
so i just noticed this today (i have the leaked ROM installed) that when i am using the web or checking my email if someone calls they go straight to my voice mail -- i haven't had the phone long enough to know if this is how it is supposed to be or not. Is there a way to get to cancel the data connection and show me someone is calling?
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Wow -- what a kewl feature!
What phone/provider and rom do you have?
quantumforce1 said:
Wow -- what a kewl feature!
What phone/provider and rom do you have?
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no, not really, at least not for those of us who use push email, since it maintains a constant data connection to the exchange server
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351797&highlight=EVDO
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351797&highlight=EVDO
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well i read through that and tried what they mentioned but i couldn't get it to drop the data when a call came in.
btw, i'm on Sprint, and no EVDO where i am at so only 1x.
but as i mention in the thread
"i believe that all issues with cellphone internet blocking or being disabled when one recieve a call is purely an issue
with old and poor quality equipment of the cellphone operator in the area"
many old gsm and aparently american cellphone networks too
suffer from not being able to handle both network and calls at the same time
it's an issue in the operator end not the phones
yeah after three emails with sprint (i think most of their CS people are brain dead) they finally told me that it is how it works, no way around it.
one told me that calls go to voice mail when you don't have enough signal -- totally irrelevent to this issue
one told me it was a technical problem with my phone and said i should bring it to a sprint store to get a tech to look at it
and finally after *****ed at them sayint that people (that i assume) don't work for sprint know more about this (thanks Rudegar for your responces) then they do, they finally just came out and said that, yeah this is how it is and there isn't anyway around it.
it seems that this is a better place to get answers then emailing sprint --- although i should have realized that from the beginning, i won't make that mistake again.
well i guess your question has been answered, but figure id add my 2 cents...
it works like this only in EV-DO areas not on 1x....
my ring through works perfectly fine when a call or text comes in, it discconects allows me to do what i want, then it automatically reconnects back to data..

Setting Voice priority over Data

So I am using my N1 on att so therefor it only works on EDGE. The problem is that whenever I have an active data session open, my phone does not ring and calls just go to vmail. Is there any way to set the phone to take the call and suspend the data connection?
No one has an answer? Not even through rooting the phone can I get it to accept calls over data...
i haven't used my N1 on the ATT network, but i've never head of data overriding voice. on any network. Voice should kick your data connection. I wonder if you have an issue with an APN setting.
I'm looking for the same,
IM in the Netherlands on vodafone. 3g works fine, but can't call and use internet on the same time.
Dont you need to be on at least 3g to have voice and data at the same time?
this has always been my experience on quite a few phones I have had when in an EDGE only area and tethering on O2 in the UK, phone does not ring.
On 3G it does, in fact last night while on a conference call on speakerphone I decided to run the speed test app to see how much a voice connection impacted data and I got 300-400kbps and I normally get 1-2Mbps, only ran it once and forgot to run it again after the call has ended, so it could just be local conditions....
You are correct that you cannot have voice and data working at the same time unless you have 3g (HSDPA). If you only have and EDGE connection, you can use data or voice, not at the same time though.
So I called HTC directly and asked what the heck was going on and if there is a way to change this and they told me there was NOT. The device is set up to accept data over voice. So basically the sell it as an "unlocked" device but the functionality is is majorly flawed if it cant run on 3g. I am a little angry at this point, yes I should have researched a little more, but who the hell sells a cell PHONE where data overides voice
roush611 said:
So I called HTC directly and asked what the heck was going on and if there is a way to change this and they told me there was NOT. The device is set up to accept data over voice. So basically the sell it as an "unlocked" device but the functionality is is majorly flawed if it cant run on 3g. I am a little angry at this point, yes I should have researched a little more, but who the hell sells a cell PHONE where data overides voice
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Apparently HTC does, probably based on usage stats. I use several gigabytes of data and 1500 text msgs per month on my plan b/w myself and my wife and we only use 200 - 400 minutes. I am pretty sure that we are not the exception either...
Diceman4 said:
Apparently HTC does, probably based on usage stats. I use several gigabytes of data and 1500 text msgs per month on my plan b/w myself and my wife and we only use 200 - 400 minutes. I am pretty sure that we are not the exception either...
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I understand what you are saying and I am the same way. But being such a heavy user I do often get calls when I am on the web. So it is crap that this device is really not a fully functioning phone on EDGE.
Asking your phone to put voice over data as priority on edge is like asking your phone company to put your mom's phone number over others and having her call kick someone else's call off while you are talking.
This is not an issue with the Nexus One, all phones, when on EDGE, behave this way. This is just the way EDGE works, this is why they push 3G devices and network services and not EDGE. It's old and not as functional.
If you are not happy with the Nexus One because of this, I would suggest selling it and waiting for AT&T to get their device that will compete with this.
Talderon said:
This is not an issue with the Nexus One, all phones, when on EDGE, behave this way. This is just the way EDGE works, this is why they push 3G devices and network services and not EDGE. It's old and not as functional.
If you are not happy with the Nexus One because of this, I would suggest selling it and waiting for AT&T to get their device that will compete with this.
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That is not true. Blackberry curve for instance runs on edge, if a call comes it it will interupt the data connect to take the call. You cant do voice and data at the same time, i agree with that. I have had other devices like the G1 when it first came out and when it ran on edge and I was getting a call while on the internet it would suspend my data and take the call...
And I like the N1 that is why I still have it. It just sucks that on a PHONE, data is prioritized over voice. I was looking for a solution for this situation by either rooting or figuring something out within the phone, but I guess there is not a way to fix this.
roush611 said:
That is not true. Blackberry curve for instance runs on edge, if a call comes it it will interupt the data connect to take the call. You cant do voice and data at the same time, i agree with that. I have had other devices like the G1 when it first came out and when it ran on edge and I was getting a call while on the internet it would suspend my data and take the call...
And I like the N1 that is why I still have it. It just sucks that on a PHONE, data is prioritized over voice. I was looking for a solution for this situation by either rooting or figuring something out within the phone, but I guess there is not a way to fix this.
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You are mistaken. I've had at least 10 phones that ran edge for data and none of them could interrupt data for voice. You are probably using more data intensive Apps or webpages compared to the blackberry, so its more likely you are missing calls.
Go use the blackberry to download a 7 MB file and see if you can call it.
where i live i'm just outside the 3G areas
my past phones have been HTC and i just end up with a voicemail notification when someone calls and my phones were ALWAYS on data, people used to get pissed thinking i was avoiding them.
google voice fixes this, i can just switch to my notification, listen to voicemail or if i'm lucky read the transcription (usually doesnt match though ) without having to effect what i was doing.
On my winmo phones, if i tried to do this, i would sometimes go back to my browser to find it decided to close while i was on the call to listen to my voicemail and then i would lose what i was doing and have to start all over anyways. so this is just another reason i love the nexus one and google voice, you say useless data>voice, i say a fix to my problem. i love you n1! lol
I can not speak to blackberry phones but this behavior has been the norm for all of my smartphones, to include the G1. If I make heavy use of Edge in a non 3g area then phone calls would not get through. It is annoying but not a problem specific to the N1.

UMA calling coming to android?

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/motorola-charm-to-include-uma/
This story is of particular interest to me as I think UMA is a kickass feature. Does anybody know anything about how this is going to work on the charm? Does anyone have a system dump of the charm rom yet? I'd love to poke around and see what's in there.
If I could get UMA working on my nexus I'd never need another phone. I can't even count how many times my wife has been able to use her blackberry via wifi to make calls and then makes fun of my 'superphone'. ...sigh...
It's called Google Voice.
GldRush98 said:
It's called Google Voice.
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Not really; it's not a replacement for UMA. You can't be in a dead zone and be making/receiving calls and texts over WiFi only.
pakraider said:
Not really; it's not a replacement for UMA. You can't be in a dead zone and be making/receiving calls and texts over WiFi only.
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I do that with Google Voice and Sipdroid currently
ram130 said:
I do that with Google Voice and Sipdroid currently
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I guess you can hack a solution if you give everyone your Google Voice number (or forward all calls to it), and have it forwarded to a DID or other number, having that number expose SIP credentials (or use in conjunction with Gizmo/PBXes/Sip Sorcery), and finally use Sipdroid to register and receive calls and dial out. Whew.
Not that I haven't done it before , but that is hardly what UMA can do for you; a seamless connection to the provider without the need of any of that mumbo jumbo (not to mention reliance on everything in your VoIP chain working smoothly all the time)
just out of curiosity though; do you have your setup such that all of your calls/texts are sent/received through the same number so that it's all transparent to everyone else?
pakraider said:
I guess you can hack a solution if you give everyone your Google Voice number (or forward all calls to it), and have it forwarded to a DID or other number, having that number expose SIP credentials (or use in conjunction with Gizmo/PBXes/Sip Sorcery), and finally use Sipdroid to register and receive calls and dial out. Whew.
Not that I haven't done it before , but that is hardly what UMA can do for you; a seamless connection to the provider without the need of any of that mumbo jumbo (not to mention reliance on everything in your VoIP chain working smoothly all the time)
just out of curiosity though; do you have your setup such that all of your calls/texts are sent/received through the same number so that it's all transparent to everyone else?
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I would have to admit, it was a bit of pain(time) to setup. It does fine as an UMA replacement until T-Mobile decide that their coverage is not perfect enough yet and work with google to implement.
As for my setup. Well once I go underground, anyone with my regular mobile number can call and reach me as if I was on T-Mobile same way. As for texts, nope, not yet at least, they would have to text my google number. The only bad side about this setup is that sipdroid does not keep the call going over wifi with the screen off. So your phone gets rather hot after 30mins. Go figure.
Also thanks to this setup, I also take calls on my laptop with both linux and Windows..
One last thing to note since the Charm has UMALite. A user commented on that TmoNews link and said this:
Only calls can be made via UMA. Text/VM notification/MMS will not go work. So like on a TMO Blackberry, UMA gives you full functionality via UMA. UMALite does not. Oh and one more thing,if you originate a call via UMALite, it will not hand it over to gsm or vice versa.
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+ 1 on this.i have heard the vibrant has this feature but i cannot verify.i have sent the developer of the vibrant for cm several messages regarding this issue and cannot get a response.ive even offered a reward to someone that can successfully port it to my nexus.i had a bberry with this feature and its awesome when you are in a building most of the day and have no signal.all of these other features mentioned in this thread,while excellent in their own way,are no comparison to UMA.
InGeNeTiCs said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/motorola-charm-to-include-uma/
This story is of particular interest to me as I think UMA is a kickass feature. Does anybody know anything about how this is going to work on the charm? Does anyone have a system dump of the charm rom yet? I'd love to poke around and see what's in there.
If I could get UMA working on my nexus I'd never need another phone. I can't even count how many times my wife has been able to use her blackberry via wifi to make calls and then makes fun of my 'superphone'. ...sigh...
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Google voice

Anyone had any issues with google voice? I have had phone calls not come through every so often, and contacts not blocked end up in the spam folder. Only fix I found was to deactivate my Sprint number and re-activate it 15 mins later on Google Voice. Friend has a Nexus S 4G and can not contact her unless I have google voice activated and even then it will go back and some contacts. If anyone has issue like this let me know.
i never really had an issue with google voice, but whenever i did have some sort of issue the first thing sprint reps would ask is "are integrated with google voice?" seems like they want to blame that first for any tech problems.
i got a new ns4g yesterday and decided ditch googlevoice, the novelty has worn of for me
Canadians' reply to American question
G'day,
You asked about Gvoice problems.
Not sure if your situation can be considered contextually similar to mine as I am doing a bit of trickery to be able to use the voicemail section from Canada.
The relevant problem for me is similar to your spam thing. Very rarely, and randomly to boot, voicemail left for me will vanish ... I only know it was left for me because the leavers informed me. No hint whatsoever that it ever happened.
Aside from that its been good to have a voicemail that can SMS me, transcribe to text and just overall be what I thought my OVERPRICED carriers voicemail should be. Already pay far too much for cellular anything in my opinion.
floydlloyd said:
G'day,
You asked about Gvoice problems.
Not sure if your situation can be considered contextually similar to mine as I am doing a bit of trickery to be able to use the voicemail section from Canada.
The relevant problem for me is similar to your spam thing. Very rarely, and randomly to boot, voicemail left for me will vanish ... I only know it was left for me because the leavers informed me. No hint whatsoever that it ever happened.
Aside from that its been good to have a voicemail that can SMS me, transcribe to text and just overall be what I thought my OVERPRICED carriers voicemail should be. Already pay far too much for cellular anything in my opinion.
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Please let us know how you managed to get it working in canada
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
I'm not sure how he does it but I have my Nexus on Boost and supposedly you can't use Google Voice mail on a prepaid service but mine works. All I did was go through the setup on the google voice app and set it to be my voice mail...I didn't set up anything through the online settings from my computer. But the funny thing is if I reject a call myself it will send it to my Boost voicemail....if I let it just ring out, it will go to Google Voice mail. Don't know if that helps in your case but it works for me.
Story of the guy who thought in circles !!!
asb123 said:
Please let us know how you managed to get it working in canada
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Well ... Joke was on me !!
At first I thought I had discovered the Holy Grail ... (fool ... I am I am) I erroneously thought that I could beat the system by forwarding unanswered / phone off type calls to Google Voice, then use "Google Voice Callback FREE" app to "intercept" the "outgoing" forwarded call.
Damn ... worked really well in my coupla tests with friends etc but I quickly realized, once my online call log was posted (roughly 3 hour wait plus or minus) I was essentially just calling Google Voice using INTERNATIONAL LONG DISTANCE ... not good, I was prepared to eat the coupla minutes there, so not ready to fall on sword or anything just yet LOL
( Must have been on some heavy drugs 'cause I never stopped to realize that the forwarding is out of my hands and done at the carriers end FIDO.ca in my case)
Unless there is a way to do forwarding LOCAL to the phone or maybe have it answer THEN redirect the call using tasker or some other programmatic method I think I'm stumped ... of course I'm stumped just like the rest of us Canucks. LOL
I have a long distance plan that gives me free minutes to the US that I never use ... tried setting my voicemail # in Android to dial it ... then pause (tried comma and semicolon) then dial my Gvoice number ... No go there ...
Aaaaaargh ... lotta wasted time really without thinking it thru b4 hand AND here I was thinking that I had figured it out, so I posted that yesterday.
So out of all this blah blah blah Coupla questions
1. Is the forwarding TRULY out of my hands and done at the carriers end?
2. is there SOME way I can redirect incoming unanswered calls locally on my phone so that "Google Voice Callback FREE" app can intercept it?
Sorry to get any hopes up with my "genius" non-discovery
Floydlloyd
budphone.ca cheesy interface with ads BUT voicemail & Canadian Long Distance free
Me again,
For those too cheap ...like myself, to pay even more for voicemail. I got this in a tweet a while back and ignored it thinking I could get the Gvoice thing going "somehow".
budphone(dot)ca
Labatts breweries wants our "consumerist" attention so thru freephoneline.ca they are offering this ... get a phone number and long distance calling to many cities in Canada + voicemail + forwarding to normal phones + coupla other things ... go see if you're interested. I dont work for BUD or Labatts BTW. I just like the free voicemail ...1 day only so far.
I signed up and it is OK for me for now. I really only wanted the voice mail. It does give me an alternate phone number too ... without affecting my current FIDO cell plan.
I already have long distance at $.25 per call in North America no matter how long the call is ... (dial a number ... pause ... dial target number. Works on cellphone homephone etc.
I haven't left it off the hook for days or anything to see if the "no matter how long the call is" thing is true, but hours on end is no problem.
This was called talk 25 with win-tel who now seems to primus.ca and it seems they've abolished that SUPER deal except for grandfathering AFAIK You can look there too to see if they offer any killer deals.
Whew ... lotta babbling there ... but might spark some Ideas perhaps?
Floydlloyd
Google Voice is available in Canada at the 403 (Calgary, AB) area code. Google will let you set it up if you sign up over a vpn. Buy yourself a cheap DID.

Frustrated... what to do??

I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
cseeley said:
I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
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This is a issue a growing number people are encountering now a days. I would suggest that you take look into T-Mobile network Test Drive offer an see if they are for you.I know that in my area T-Mobile is terrible so I'm with Verizon till I get kicked off Unlimited then it looks like it's Sprint time. The porting of the number won't be too much of a issue as most company's do that now. I don't know what happened when they flipped the 4G switch but their towers weren't ready.
cseeley said:
I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
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Go get a new number from some other carrier then forward your Verizon number to it till you get it figured out then port or not
cseeley said:
I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
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This one's easy. Port your phone number to Google Voice. Then get a new number from Verizon for your existing phone. Install the Google Voice app on your phone and all of the incoming and outgoing calls will be via Google Voice using the number your ported there.
I've had Google Voice as my primary number for years and I'm completely independent of any carrier or single phone. In fact, when someone calls my phone number it rings on my cell phone, my home phone, my office phone, my tablet and my PC. My wife giggles every time I get a call because it sounds like I'm in a clock store with all the alarms going off at once.
If you get a new phone from another carrier just install Google Voice on it and both your old cell phone and new phone will ring at once. You will be completely independent of a carrier. I am so independent of the carrier that I have no idea what phone number is on my current cell phone. I'd have to look in the settings to see what it is.
Two caveats:
1) You will need to use Google Voice for text messaging. If you use any other text messaging app it will show that the message came from the cell phone's number and not Google Voice's number.
2) Google Voice messaging doesn't handle MMS texts. You can't send/receive photos or videos.
One huge advantage:
You can send/receive texts on your PC by going to Voice.Google.com and logging in. In fact, your entire text messaging history is stored in the cloud. Get a text and it shows up on your phone, on your tablet and in your browser. Immediately. When I'm on my computer and I hear my phone chime that a text has arrived, I never take my phone out, I just look at the text in my browser. It's so much more convenient than any other messaging app that I would never change.
Yeah... I already use google voice quite a bit with a different number.
Here is the problem, if I port my number out of Verizon, their system automatically closes the line when the port is complete. It is no problem getting it turned back on, but then I lose the unlimited data.
That is where my problem lies.
Chris
TabGuy said:
This one's easy. Port your phone number to Google Voice. Then get a new number from Verizon for your existing phone. Install the Google Voice app on your phone and all of the incoming and outgoing calls will be via Google Voice using the number your ported there.
I've had Google Voice as my primary number for years and I'm completely independent of any carrier or single phone. In fact, when someone calls my phone number it rings on my cell phone, my home phone, my office phone, my tablet and my PC. My wife giggles every time I get a call because it sounds like I'm in a clock store with all the alarms going off at once.
If you get a new phone from another carrier just install Google Voice on it and both your old cell phone and new phone will ring at once. You will be completely independent of a carrier. I am so independent of the carrier that I have no idea what phone number is on my current cell phone. I'd have to look in the settings to see what it is.
Two caveats:
1) You will need to use Google Voice for text messaging. If you use any other text messaging app it will show that the message came from the cell phone's number and not Google Voice's number.
2) Google Voice messaging doesn't handle MMS texts. You can't send/receive photos or videos.
One huge advantage:
You can send/receive texts on your PC by going to Voice.Google.com and logging in. In fact, your entire text messaging history is stored in the cloud. Get a text and it shows up on your phone, on your tablet and in your browser. Immediately. When I'm on my computer and I hear my phone chime that a text has arrived, I never take my phone out, I just look at the text in my browser. It's so much more convenient than any other messaging app that I would never change.
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