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T-Mobile G2 with Google, first T-mobile HSPA+ phone

T-Mobile G2 with Google, first HSPA+ phone from T-Mobile.
http://g2.t-mobile.com/
Specs?

Can't wait for the g2. Gonna be hard to give up my NEXUS.

I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/

I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.

jcohenlv said:
I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.
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This phone will not have anything past 1ghz snapdragons we all know as of right now. The new line isn't coming until the end of the year.

I think I might give up my nexi, I've been dying for a keyboard phone comparable to the nexus one. This may be it.

Not me. I rooted mine when the 1-click root app came out and it gave me more reasons to keep mine. I love it even more! I can't believe i thought of replacing it.
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so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor I'm hoping it'll be good. they need to release official specs soon

mcp2009 said:
so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor
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A) Link?
B) How would he know?

Paul22000 said:
A) Link?
B) How would he know?
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If you check his twitter account, he posted the details of the processor a couple of days ago. But yeah I think it said between 800mhz-1ghz

sstang2006 said:
I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/
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This is one of those cases where MHz won't matter one bit. The chip has a whole bunch of new features not found on the N1, including many hardware multimedia accelerators. Plus, you really won't notice much of a different with just a 200MHz drop.
With a faster radio, more memory and better hardware acceleration, the CPU speed becomes less important.
I'll upgrade if it offers speedy HD video, HDMI out and more memory as those are the things I'm missing on my N1.

The phone will have the scorpion chip set which equivalent too the snapdragon, but with a better cpu and wvga screen
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It's going to be hard for me to give my Nexus up as well. I'm still trying to weigh my options on whether I should just go ahead and get the G2 or keep my N1. If the screen size is not 4.3" I will be keeping my Nexus until a 4.3" T-Mobile Android deice come out.
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Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows

mcp2009 said:
Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Information from the leaked g2rom

mcp2009 said:
Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Thanks.
I'm still waiting for a 1.3-1.5 GHz phone before replacing my Nexus.

Honestly, im waitng for the next Dev phone, personally the mod community on the Nexus One is far superior to anything it could be on any other phone. So i'll wait, im not a slide out keyboard guy anyway. Google tends to release a new "dev" phone for each major release:
G1 - 1.0 &1.5
MT3G - 1.6 (i think)
Droid -2.0
Nexus One -2.1 & 2.2

Droid was never a development phone

JCopernicus said:
Droid was never a development phone
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no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone

JCopernicus said:
Droid was never a development phone
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Blueman101 said:
no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone
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Not to mention Google was giving it away along with Nexus One's to developers.

[DISCUSSION] Desire Z development..who will be in??

I think i'm not the only one that hates senseUI so my following questions are:
1. what developers would put the effort to max this phone to it's best?
2. Will we have cyanogen?
3. will we have screen calibration?(i really god used with true color rather than "blue pushed" colors).
Please if any developer would love to put a bit of comfort to our hearts please post here that you would do the best for this phone
So looking forward for it!
Edit: posible to swich roms from G2 to z and other way? that would be nice,theoretically it's very posible same hardware!

looks like the G2 will have stock froyo(not sure) but i really hope we can cyanogen mod on this thing! still don't think desire z is going to replace n1 on the priority list.

mtl171 said:
looks like the G2 will have stock froyo(not sure) but i really hope we can cyanogen mod on this thing! still don't think desire z is going to replace n1 on the priority list.
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You are quite right,but alao g2 might take the place of n1,and g2=desire z,it'q all a matter of rooting i think.
Damn i will really miss the led flash from n1) really really usefull for me.

LED flash? G2 also has a flash with its camera, if thats what you mean..
Also, to your 3rd point, if you're talking about the blue tinge issues and such, these screens won't have those issues as they're not AMOLED's, but SLCD's.

Aaaa sry i mean trackball led flash.
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norocel said:
g2 might take the place of n1,and g2=desire z,it'q all a matter of rooting i think.
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but no led track ball though still wonder if it'll steal the crown from the n1. afterall desire z isn't a "google experience" phone.
Superfrag said:
these screens won't have those issues as they're not AMOLED's, but SLCD's.
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dang. i was hoping for super amoled display. well atleast with slcd we won't be getting anymore burnin. hopefully.

Unfortunately for now, Only Samsung has the rights to use S-AMOLED. Its their tech anyways. But I believe from next year fall onwards they will start selling S-AMOLED screens to other manufacturer's.

For me S-amoled is not that interesting anymore,really curios about this S-lcd and it's multitouch capabiliti really hope is better than n1 or desire.
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Cyanogen tweeted earlier this month saying that he's getting a G2, so I think it's safe to say that the G2/Desire Z will have lots of developer/hacker support. Honestly, that's part of the reason I'm so excited about the G2. I'll likely be keeping it for the full 2 year contract, so having a phone that's so supported by XDA is a huge advantage.

ryaninc said:
Cyanogen tweeted earlier this month saying that he's getting a G2, so I think it's safe to say that the G2/Desire Z will have lots of developer/hacker support. Honestly, that's part of the reason I'm so excited about the G2. I'll likely be keeping it for the full 2 year contract, so having a phone that's so supported by XDA is a huge advantage.
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You are perfectly right,xda really makes the touch on android,without it would be boring.I live in europe still not decided if i should take the Z or just buy the g2,really don't know if there would be a diffrence within them.Hope we can get them soon:x
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I will help if you want if i get this phone that is

I might be available for some playing, already ordered my Z

norocel said:
You are perfectly right,xda really makes the touch on android,without it would be boring.I live in europe still not decided if i should take the Z or just buy the g2,really don't know if there would be a diffrence within them.Hope we can get them soon:x
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Where are you in Europe? I know our European phones don't work over in the states on their 3G networks and pretty sure their phones don't work on ours....except for the Nexus one.

Id love to dev for it, just need a device. Just bought 2 new phones so I'm kinda broke
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norocel said:
You are perfectly right,xda really makes the touch on android,without it would be boring.I live in europe still not decided if i should take the Z or just buy the g2,really don't know if there would be a diffrence within them.Hope we can get them soon:x
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Totally agreed, I stuck with the G1 till now which definetly would not have been possible without everyone at XDA. You think that maybe Cyanogen might make a Non-Sense version and a Sense version of the ROM?

AndroidHAX said:
You think that maybe Cyanogen might make a Non-Sense version and a Sense version of the ROM?
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CM does not produce Sense ROMs.

daewond3r said:
CM does not produce Sense ROMs.
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dam, i was hoping for a miracle, oh well... thx

I've been done something useful on Motorola Milestone and I've ever been in HTC WiMo devices modding etc.
Selling Milestone, HTC Desire Z already ordered and waiting for its arrival. I'm in.
First of all, we have to see if it's unlocked, then we can play with the system: putting Sense on CyanogenMod maybe is possible, we'll see. I'll do better than I can.
-kholk.

I'm a little curious which one would work on at&t 3g. I prefer no sense and think cyanogen will support that before sense.
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@jakeneal22:
From what I know, Cyanogen doesn't make Sense ROMs, they're only modded AOSPs..
Anyway, this waiting is killin' me....

so....

if it took about 7 months for the hero to become a "outdated" phone i take it the evo will be considered old by x-mas?

I dun think so. Eco is more high end and hero was very low end compared to other phones when it came out. N1 is still popular and even g1 is pretty popular
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Crossrocker said:
I dun think so. Eco is more high end and hero was very low end compared to other phones when it came out. N1 is still popular and even g1 is pretty popular
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depends on what sprint releases next. i got to play with a epic and that lcd blows the evo out of the water. if it weren't for that touchwiz crap and lack of devs id buy one.

I have the epic its really nice but I might switch to the evo
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Evo will be fine... The hero though was behind right from release .. Sprint and htc are supporting this phone alot!!!
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Naw, it will be more like 9 months.

oh god no not Fixxer

Sporkman said:
oh god no not Fixxer
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don't worry if i get an evo i won't bug you too much.
anyways im up for upgrade but i might wait and see what comes out next. why the hell hasn't sprint announced their fall/winter lineup yet?

garyfunk said:
Naw, it will be more like 9 months.
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i say by january 1st.

fixxxer2008 said:
don't worry if i get an evo i won't bug you too much.
anyways im up for upgrade but i might wait and see what comes out next. why the hell hasn't sprint announced their fall/winter lineup yet?
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wont bug me i found ( finally ) the ignore button lol

Upgrade in March. Hope HTC has something out around then.
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Sporkman said:
wont bug me i found ( finally ) the ignore button lol
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LOL for some reason I thought the same thing

dglowe343 said:
Upgrade in March. Hope HTC has something out around then.
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be nice to know what sprint has coming.

dglowe343 said:
Upgrade in March. Hope HTC has something out around then.
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i expect something new by the end of the year

nicholaaaas said:
i expect something new by the end of the year
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maybe not from sprint, but better devices are just around the corner, i mean look at the desire HD, the Evo just came out, and the second gen snapdragon core with a 3x better GPU is already here...not to mention the Galaxy phones, with their hummingbird cores and super amoleds...

Id say the EVO goes EOL by q2/q3 2011 but there will still be plenty of development going on here for at least few years. I been seeing more EVOs around town lately Im wondering if there's a Walmart selling them cheap.
My upgrade is in March also I hope something phenomenal is out by then.

Honestly the Evo might be outdated sooner. Look at the N1 hardware vs. Evo hardware. I mean the processor + ram, not the 'camera'. It will only be a few months until dual core processors and parallel processed apps come through and make the Evo seem slow. For now, its a beast of a king though.

this may be the hero replacement

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/09/30/sprint-sanyo-zio-aka-kyocera-m6000-official-technical-specs/
no 4g, coming to sprint next week, stock android. slightly faster cpu as well. this may be the hero replacement. i may have to look into this one once it's rooted.

fixxxer2008 said:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/09/30/sprint-sanyo-zio-aka-kyocera-m6000-official-technical-specs/
no 4g, coming to sprint next week, stock android. slightly faster cpu as well. this may be the hero replacement. i may have to look into this one once it's rooted.
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Maybe...Sprint has this one coming out too..The Transform...I can just see all the Transformer roms for that one
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Transform-phone-pa_4937.html
I am kind of liking it may have a Super AMOLED,faster processor and way more memory..
Mac

That Transform is very nice. I would be happy if Sprint snagged the Desire.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!

being a old diehard sanyo fan from the past.. i wonder if this sanyo will be anything build wise like the my trusty mm-5600 and mm-9000.. both tanks..
one can wish..

fixxxer2008 said:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/09/30/sprint-sanyo-zio-aka-kyocera-m6000-official-technical-specs/
no 4g, coming to sprint next week, stock android. slightly faster cpu as well. this may be the hero replacement. i may have to look into this one once it's rooted.
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Chipset:
MSM7627 / Android 1.6 (Donut)

spiritcrusher33 said:
being a old diehard sanyo fan from the past.. i wonder if this sanyo will be anything build wise like the my trusty mm-5600 and mm-9000.. both tanks..
one can wish..
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Funny Story here is that the phone is not Sanyo is a Kyocera

rockypr said:
Chipset:
MSM7627 / Android 1.6 (Donut)
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if you read, it will ship with 2.1 from sprint and the cpu is 600mhz which is faster than the hero.

spiritcrusher33 said:
being a old diehard sanyo fan from the past.. i wonder if this sanyo will be anything build wise like the my trusty mm-5600 and mm-9000.. both tanks..
one can wish..
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same here, they made solid phones. i may buy this thing next week.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795697
i requested the mods make a new section on xda for this phone. if you feel the same please reply in that thread. ill buy the phone once it's rooted. then ill start creating roms for it.

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/...tm_campaign=Feed:+androidguyscom+(AndroidGuys)
Check out comment 3 from Allison h sounds pretty tough. But I don't know where she got her info from.
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fixxxer2008 said:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/09/30/sprint-sanyo-zio-aka-kyocera-m6000-official-technical-specs/
no 4g, coming to sprint next week, stock android. slightly faster cpu as well. this may be the hero replacement. i may have to look into this one once it's rooted.
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it a temporary hero replacement till the hero 2 comes out in november but it will sell well and dont forget about the transform. Its a sexy beast

ajac said:
it a temporary hero replacement till the hero 2 comes out in november but it will sell well and dont forget about the transform. Its a sexy beast
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what hero2? that was just a rumor.

ajac said:
it a temporary hero replacement till the hero 2 comes out in november but it will sell well and dont forget about the transform. Its a sexy beast
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http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Hero2-phone-p_4477.html
It's suppose to be a unibody like desire/legend thing for sprint...

chococrazy said:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Hero2-phone-p_4477.html
It's suppose to be a unibody like desire/legend thing for sprint...
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that's from febuary..that's not coming at all.

G2x

Have any of you thought about maybe getting the g2x? any good reasons why not?

I'm going to buy it. Has my Mytouch 4G beat in every aspect I care about minus Cyanogen support. Hopefully that will come later.

Akulamenuri said:
I'm going to buy it. Has my Mytouch 4G beat in every aspect I care about minus Cyanogen support. Hopefully that will come later.
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No it doesn't. The G2x only has 512MB of RAM versus the MT4G's 768.

im getting the g2x. ill be in vegas when it comes out. i heard the 15th and than i heard the 20th. ill arrive in vegas on the 16th so hopefully it does launch and i can find the nearest tmobile store. im putting my iphone and mytouch online to trade for one if i go for broke in vegas lol.

how can such a "high end" phone have so little ram?

hydrogenman said:
how can such a "high end" phone have so little ram?
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Good question. I was surprised to read that myself. 512MB is like going back to early 2010 when the Nexus One came out. I would expect most new high end devices coming out today to have 768MB or 1GB.

Just wait for the pyramid or the HTC sensation. Same phone.
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xl DIGITAL lx said:
Just wait for the pyramid or the HTC sensation. Same phone.
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Honestly, the myTouch 4G is plenty enough power for me. There is no app alive that can bog this phone down. **** ton of RAM and nice second gen cpu. Dual core is nice but not needed. I'll wait till my contract ends and there's probably gonna be like quad cores out by then lol.

mackster248 said:
Honestly, the myTouch 4G is plenty enough power for me. There is no app alive that can bog this phone down. **** ton of RAM and nice second gen cpu. Dual core is nice but not needed. I'll wait till my contract ends and there's probably gonna be like quad cores out by then lol.
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I feel the exact same way. My contract just expired, but there aren't any phones out yet that I'd rather have. The other issue is not knowing what will happen with the network and phone compatibility. I probably won't get a new phone until the TMO/ATT merger is final.

I'll be sitting at Tmobile the second they open getting the G2X. It's too much of a beast not to.

WorldWide60 said:
I'll be sitting at Tmobile the second they open getting the G2X. It's too much of a beast not to.
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TeeJay3800 said:
I feel the exact same way. My contract just expired, but there aren't any phones out yet that I'd rather have. The other issue is not knowing what will happen with the network and phone compatibility. I probably won't get a new phone until the TMO/ATT merger is final.
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I talked to a buddy of mine that works for tmobile, and he said that it's going to be at least a year before the merger is finalized, and even then changes aren't going to be right then.

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I talked to a buddy of mine that works for tmobile, and he said that it's going to be at least a year before the merger is finalized, and even then changes aren't going to be right then.
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True. So possible a year and a half before u see any changes. Im getting the g2x and getting rid of whichever I think isnt better. I want a dual core though.
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Probably Brick, but always there is a way
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512 mb of ram is large enough, it's just a phone not a real PC. there are no apps available or in development that will require you to have big amounts of ram.
cyanogen just said on his twitter account that this will be his next phone.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen
so this is a great Plus.

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No it doesn't. The G2x only has 512MB of RAM versus the MT4G's 768.
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I repeat, every aspect I care about. 512MB is plenty. Something else that is pretty sick is that it supports At&t 3G bands so I will be buying this phone unlocked to help futureproof my device.

peacekeeper05 said:
512 mb of ram is large enough, it's just a phone not a real PC. there are no apps available or in development that will require you to have big amounts of ram.
cyanogen just said on his twitter account that this will be his next phone.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen
so this is a great Plus.
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Just gave me a reason to get it cyanogen was the reason I got a g2 as well before I bought the mytouch.
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I think I will have to get the G2x. From what everyone is saying, the stock 2.2 sounds like it is so smooth that it will make it easy to wait for Cyan development. I would also imagine that it would be that much easier for LG to release 2.3 OTA. Anybody know what LG's history is on OTA support?

peacekeeper05 said:
512 mb of ram is large enough, it's just a phone not a real PC. there are no apps available or in development that will require you to have big amounts of ram.
cyanogen just said on his twitter account that this will be his next phone.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen
so this is a great Plus.
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You know what this means.... FULL Cyanogenmod access! By Cyanogen himself, not his team. That will be great! LOL
I thought about pre-ordering on the 15th, but it probably won't get to me until the 20th anyway (since the 15th is a friday, sometimes T-Mobile surprises us before the release date), so I might just wait to go to the store in the morning.
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I think I will have to get the G2x. From what everyone is saying, the stock 2.2 sounds like it is so smooth that it will make it easy to wait for Cyan development. I would also imagine that it would be that much easier for LG to release 2.3 OTA. Anybody know what LG's history is on OTA support?
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The reason T-Mobile took the UI from Optimus 2x off the phone is so it will be easy to update to 2.3, since that's what it was suppose to originally ship with. Google will be the one releasing 2.3 OTA, not LG so don't worry.

nspusmc said:
I think I will have to get the G2x. From what everyone is saying, the stock 2.2 sounds like it is so smooth that it will make it easy to wait for Cyan development. I would also imagine that it would be that much easier for LG to release 2.3 OTA. Anybody know what LG's history is on OTA support?
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LG just got in to the high tech game of mobile phones so we will have to wait and see about otas.
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Akulamenuri said:
I repeat, every aspect I care about. 512MB is plenty. Something else that is pretty sick is that it supports At&t 3G bands so I will be buying this phone unlocked to help futureproof my device.
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Just because no single app uses that much, doesn't mean that a device's performance doesn't increase when more RAM is present. RAM is something you can never have too much of, and in today's world, 512MB for a smartphone is paltry.