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disable orange branding

hi, I'm Ed, and ive got a big problem with my htc touch 3g, and i think its time to sort it out. Okay, my touch 3g is on orange (contract) and obviously i wanted the original touchflo 2d on it (Black and Blue-ish kind of theme) but, instead it gave me two crap choices of ORANGE BRANDED themes, the really awfull orange(TM) homescreen theme, or just a wierd black-on-white version of touchflo 2d. I chose the wierd touchflo, but honestly, i dont want either. I just want atleast the ORIGINAL M2D THEME, or the choice for others. Ive been trying to resolve this problem by using numerous options, ive downloaded Manilla 2D customizer, downloaded soo many themes (atleast 7 now) and none of them work, there is alway some problem with it, Ive tried nearly every recomended option. All I want, is to be able to just have a normal htc touch 3g software on it with a normal touchflo on it. I REALLY want to get rid of this orange(TM) branded stuff on it, (including that stupid 'unique manager') on it. Please, is there anybody that understands my problem, and can give me a step-by-step guide on how to do it. Please reply (PLEASE)

Hi Ed,
Though i don't have an Orange brand Jade i understand your problem; there are several threads on this forum about it.
If you really wanna get rid of all the orange stuff, there's no other choice i guess then to unlock your phone (which is not sim unlock) using HardSPL s you can flash another ROM.
Put on your reading glasses and start over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
which is almost a step by step instruction.
hope it works out for ya

ed's htc touch 3g said:
... I chose the wierd touchflo, but honestly, i dont want either. I just want atleast the ORIGINAL M2D THEME, ....... All I want, is to be able to just have a normal htc touch 3g software on it with a normal touchflo on it.
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Out of curiosity, how different is Orange TF from the default TF (the blue background). Are the tabs different, what else is different. Any screen shot ? (Need to understand the situation before offering useful assistance)

There are two options for TF with orange customers. One is basicaly the normal Touch Flo with orange's background on the home page, and a few different tabs (an "Orange World" on and a few others missing, Google Maps at least iirc). The other is one similar to other, older Orange phones, with a shortcut menu on the home screen, which I hate and so didn't actualy use and cant tell you much about.
Ed, if you just want the normal touchflo I definatly saw an option to change it before i flashed mine, I think it was a program in the Start > Programs screen just called "Change Orange Screen" or something similar.

the main reason i unlocked the phone (HSPL) and flashed the WM6.5 overloaded ROM was to get away from the Orange crap too!
They have seriously messed with the network/internet side of things... i was horrified to see i could not connect to the interent with Wifi... i managed to get it to do it... but it took some messing about and its a case of forcing it.. and it not really liking it!
with this overloaded rom and the touch flow running (instead of windows default like i did have lol) i think its great! Its really built around Wifi and then using Hspda or what ever it is as a second option if wifi's not available! well worth re-flashing too!
i just want to know how i change the order of the icons at the bottom... messages, email, footprint etc
dont really see what foot print is tbh haha!

Do a hard reset then soft reset before the phone can customize. All the orange stuff is loaded after the main hard reset

ATT Rom - Best Replacement?

I have the ATT tilt 2, and it is great but i hate the stock ATT branded bloatware version. What is the best rom for it to date? I love the touch flo 3d and would like to keep it, but be able to remove all of the ATT logos in the background and everywhere else. Thanks for your help.
Will

There are plenty of ROMs, and it's really depending on your own personal style, trial and error. I'm trying out EnergyROM from here, but you may also want to look at others in this forum.

First let me say I found the stock AT&T ROM very satisfactory. It was responsive and worked well. First I deleted much of the bloat using the wiki as a guide. But the weather clock proved too tempting and I flashed a custom ROM. I went with this one and am very satisfied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568233
Only thing is that for me YouTube isn't working. Others report it works for them and a few like my self have issues. You might not have the issue. I recommended you do a hard reset after the install.
I hear good things about the Energy ROM too. I like the ROM I'm using because it was less app pre-installed, so I can install them myself onto the storage card keeping my device relatively clean and with ample storage available.

Do you guys recommend HTC Sense 2.1 or 2.5?

GermanGuy said:
Do you guys recommend HTC Sense 2.1 or 2.5?
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Just my 2 cents. 2.5 has a few nice things like Twitter tab, new email tab. But the Contacts tab is ugly and the lack of landscape is a deal breaker. If I didnt want landscape I would go back to my tilt lol lol ok 2 cent spent lol

zelendel said:
Just my 2 cents. 2.5 has a few nice things like Twitter tab, new email tab. But the Contacts tab is ugly and the lack of landscape is a deal breaker. If I didnt want landscape I would go back to my tilt lol lol ok 2 cent spent lol
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Is the clock/weather animation the same? I like the clouds passing across the screen.

GermanGuy said:
Is the clock/weather animation the same? I like the clouds passing across the screen.
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I believe they both have the weather animations. I like the contacts tab in 2.5 better but like the programs tab in 2.1.
Right now I'm using 2.5, but plan on giving 2.1 a try tonight.
Best thing is to try both and decide for yourself.

I have the energy rom, and it works great. But how do you change the background in all the tabs? I figured out the home screen, but i cant figure out how to change the background on all the other tabs in touchflow3d

I put the stock HTC euro 6.5 rom on my TILT2. works like a dream

willthomason said:
I have the energy rom, and it works great. But how do you change the background in all the tabs? I figured out the home screen, but i cant figure out how to change the background on all the other tabs in touchflow3d
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There is a cab that will change all background tabs. BE WARNED!! When you change the background you lose the weather animation. Weather Animation only works with default background. You can use HD WALL to change it and not lose the animation. here is a link for 2.1 1919

zelendel said:
Just my 2 cents. 2.5 has a few nice things like Twitter tab, new email tab. But the Contacts tab is ugly and the lack of landscape is a deal breaker. If I didnt want landscape I would go back to my tilt lol lol ok 2 cent spent lol
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not to start a flame war or anything but... do you REALLY need landscape in manila? really? it has landscape in photo and music AND just about every app (sms, email, web browser, etc.) but really? having landscape on the homescreen that important?
anyhow... you should try flashing the official clean europe WWE version first. then move up from there. im running 2.5 and its beautiful. i dont need landscape in manila. why would i? why would anyone? everything else has landscape...
btw: youtube works fine too. wifi/3g high/low quality. (and of course in landscape....)

AtomAng Fusion 6.0 Sense 2.1 ATT
The AT&T keyboard works without any additional cabs. Sense 2.1 supports screens in landscape mode.

xcesivemastub8ah said:
not to start a flame war or anything but... do you REALLY need landscape in manila? really? it has landscape in photo and music AND just about every app (sms, email, web browser, etc.) but really? having landscape on the homescreen that important?
anyhow... you should try flashing the official clean europe WWE version first. then move up from there. im running 2.5 and its beautiful. i dont need landscape in manila. why would i?? everything else has landscape...
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Do i realy need landscape well no but sense my phone is normally on my desk woth the screen tilted it does make it awhole lot easier. mainly when i am stuck at a desk for 12 plus hours a day 6 days aweek. so to answer your question do I need it then now but will i live with out it if it is available well that is also a no. lol ok back on topic

i would like to try out the At0mAng Fusion V6.0 but the download will take 4 days it appears. can anyone email/file transfer it to me that already has it?
[email protected]
xfire: optimatez
or we can use hamachi or ftp if you have access.

btw the background file you sent me to worked great, thanks! just need to try out the sense 2.5 now... if only i could find it.

zelendel said:
Do i realy need landscape well no but sense my phone is normally on my desk woth the screen tilted it does make it awhole lot easier. mainly when i am stuck at a desk for 12 plus hours a day 6 days aweek. so to answer your question do I need it then now but will i live with out it if it is available well that is also a no. lol ok back on topic
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lol ok. i wasnt trying to be rude. im guessing you're saying you wanna see the clock in landscape as that is pretty much the only thing that isnt landscape supported in 2.5. but for those that dont know, it can get confusing when people say "no landscape". 2.5 DOES have landscape. on everthing but the manila(home) screens. if you open the sms app, for example, and open the keyboard or tilt it sideways using the accelerometer it WILL go into landscape. same in web browser and every other app. not to bring up the "other" phone, but just to compare 2.5 is like the iphone os as in: homescreen stays upright no matter what but as soon as you open any app you can tilt it into landdscape. or, in the tp2, open the keyboard into landscape... so YES 2.5 has landscape. just not in home screens. (with the exception of you, how many times do most people have the keyboard out in the clock screen?)
as far as ROMS, and back on topic , if 2.1 is your cup of tea, then i say go with the official ones. pretty much as close to bug free as youre gonna get. instead of trading ATT's bloatware for someone elses. get an official one on there then install whatever app you DO use. i went from att's to the official europe WWE one from the htc website(you still have to hardspl, btw) and i gotta say: i dont even know if my tilt2 does "edge" anymore as it hasnt budge from HSPA since.. worst case is 1 or 2 bars of "H" inside buildings.. and everything works. i then went from that to 2.5 and its just beautiful. been on it since. bug free as far as i can tell... Rhodium_AF htc sense 2.5 by ark666.

IMO, the TPC ROM is the best ATT replacement. Since I got my Tilt2 I've been messing with all the ROMs and finally decided to stick with this one. It's clean, nice looking, and very stable. The only problem I see so far is that activesync shows up in the taskmanager, but that's not really a problem cause it's always running anyways.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576361

aruppenthal is just getting started with his At&t based rom. It's still very beta but in the weeks to come it will be the rom of choice for Tilt2 owners.
If you're not wanting to test a beta I'd look to one of At0mAng's At&t roms (Sense 2.1 or 2.5)
Read both of the threads and see what looks good to you.

GinjiVitis said:
I put the stock HTC euro 6.5 rom on my TILT2. works like a dream
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Sorry if this is a newbie type question but in flashing the euro rom, do you maintain US 3G?

i ended up using the energy rom, i liked it, especially the start menu at the bottom. but then i settled on the Rhodium_AF htc sense 2.5 by ark666.
i like this one the most, i will continue using it until i get the itch to change again. iused the HDwall to change the backgrounds and it looks great, it just wont do landscape when im in the htc sense 2.5, which isnt that big of a deal. Overall super happy with this phone, blows the old tilt out of the water (even though its not technically the next version of the tilt)
Thanks everyone!
Will

tattoo apps compatibility??? :(

hi, i am going to buy htc tattoo in 2 days time. before that i need to know whether i have plenty of apps alternative to windows mobile apps.
i also heard that its a qvga screen, so developers have to sign it to get it working on tattoo (240x320 qvga screen). is that true that we may expect good number of apps for this device??? by the grace of developers showing interest in developing apps & games for qvga screen(old mobile screen)... ????
will it be future proof ???? i am also not sure about the availability of upgrade to android 2.0 from 1.6. can anyone reply to these messages???
waiting for ur responses.... if i wanna install any application on htc tattoo, where do i get the apps & how do i install it???? like is it like just clicking on exe files as in windows???? or is there any special way how i should install apps & games????
i know it may sound like a noob talk. but what to do, i am totally new to this android thing..... no idea on how to get it started & know more about it, android & its different versions of OS..... kindly throw some light on where to get all information about it & its uses over windows mobile.... in simple & detailed manner.....
detailed information is highly appreciated...... thanks

I switched from a WM HTC Diamond to the cheaper HTC Tattoo and find it quicker, and with more apps!
But it might be useful for you to tell us what apps you want/use already, and we can say whether or not they are on Tattoo.
As for 2.0 who knows, talk is it should eventually get the upgrade but not exactly high priority,

Info
I have also switched from HTC Diamond to Tattoo. I know that Tattoo is cheaper but I like it more.
To install .apk you can use HTC Sync. After synchronization you can find on main screen HTC Sync :Application Installer and you can use it for install any application.

You can use ASTRO file manager to install .apk from Tattoo

There is no problem with APPS, I already have installed even AndNav2, and There is a lot of software in the market. Something that Diamond doesnt have
This phone beat the Diamond with performance, software,easy to use and price, but not with the display resolution.

how about upgrading android 1.6 to 2.1 on htc tattoo ??? any ROM available yet??? i wanna try that version of android OS on my htc tattoo.... any input about its guide would be appreciated.....

@kashish, where r u from buddy??? u just vanished after u asked me a question??? fine... i wanna know if 3G is launcehd in India, can i use it with my tattoo with firmware update??? ur reply is highly appreciated pls....

Hey guys, I need some assistance here. I bought a Tattoo and believe me I love it - even coming from higher-end Android phones, the problem is that mine is apparently a Malaysian variant and there is no ANDROID MARKET as such - only SLIDE ME. I am not sure of the difference in availability off apps between the two, but I have heard there are only 25% of the usual apps on SLIDE ME as compared to ANDROID MARKET. Anyway, my main issue here is that I cannot get any Instant Messenger apps like Agile Messenger or doc viewers like Adobe, Quickoffice or Documents To Go. Are these available (even in paid form) for the Tattoo? I love this little phone and it is super-fast - but I NEED these apps on the Tattoo. Anyone able to shed some light for me?

manuvaidya said:
@kashish, where r u from buddy??? u just vanished after u asked me a question??? fine... i wanna know if 3G is launcehd in India, can i use it with my tattoo with firmware update??? ur reply is highly appreciated pls....
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Right now, I think only BSNL or MTNL provides 3G service. I just activated Vodafone's EDGE service, known as Vodafone Mobile Connect, and it works just fine with my Tattoo. GPS, Twitter, Facebook updates... all work just fine. I do hope that when more operators start providing 3G service, HTC releases an update to enable 3G. I am pretty sure that it's a software limitation and not a hardware limitation.

foxuniform said:
Hey guys, I need some assistance here. I bought a Tattoo and believe me I love it - even coming from higher-end Android phones, the problem is that mine is apparently a Malaysian variant and there is no ANDROID MARKET as such - only SLIDE ME. I am not sure of the difference in availability off apps between the two, but I have heard there are only 25% of the usual apps on SLIDE ME as compared to ANDROID MARKET. Anyway, my main issue here is that I cannot get any Instant Messenger apps like Agile Messenger or doc viewers like Adobe, Quickoffice or Documents To Go. Are these available (even in paid form) for the Tattoo? I love this little phone and it is super-fast - but I NEED these apps on the Tattoo. Anyone able to shed some light for me?
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Documents To Go is available.

Oh really? I will check that out on SlideMe and hopefully that is the case!

i wanna know how i can convert cab files to apk file.... because i can see swype application for windows mobiles being available in 4shared, but no swype apk file anywhere on the net.....
i request here, is there anyone who knows how to convert cab to apk ???? i know it may sound silly.... but i am a noob here. i also understand that it needs to be coded and all stuff.... but as i said before, i wanna know how to do it step by step..... please......

OK -Documents To Go IS indeed available for the Tattoo users out there! Looking for a good IM app next!

Meebo's a pretty good IM app. Give it a try. Available on Market.

noob Android question about f/w and Home screen

hi all
am a new Android owner with a HTC Legend.
one thing thats confusing me is that..yes the system reports the firmware as 2.1
however, of all the Android 2.1 clips I've seen...mostly of the Nexus1, there are 5 home screen pages, saw a diagonal ribbon type thing on a Doid stock 2.1 video, a button to open the apps page instead of the drawer, with the apps page being a 3d wheel kinda thing....and so on.
Now, with the Legend, once HTC Sense is disabled, i get Andoid's original (i think) Home screen. this shows up as 'Home version 7' under Manage applications.
And it's NOTHING like what i've seen of 2.1. it looks basic, not so different from one of the earliest versions that ran on an emulator on windows.
the only thing i can make of this...is that f/w 2.1 and Home version 7 are different things. much like HTC Sense is different from f/w 2.1..in that they're both just skins and can be different versions independent of the f/w as long as its supported to run.
can someone clarify?
thank you.

doesnt anyone know?
I can't seem to find the answer to this anywhere...

HTC Legend doesn't have live wallpapers.

ahh so all that I described is part of the live wallpaper?
thanks for clearing that up

HTC Legend doesn't have a trackball.

MyrdhinM said:
HTC Legend doesn't have a trackball.
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yer im aware of that........
anyway it turns out I mightve been looking at some custom launcher and mistaking them for the default home screen after all..

HTC Legend doesn't have Voice Recognition.

yer and htc legend runs iphoneOS

MyrdhinM said:
HTC Legend doesn't have Voice Recognition.
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Rofl.. That just made my day

I'm under the impression that this forum is now filled with dickheads.
Sent from my HTC Legend using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

i dont like the home screen without HTC sense

Dear All,
kindly help me on my concern. I friend of mine just offered me a G2 but i dont like the homescreen of all. Would there be no way to get HTC sense on a later stage or will this option not be allowed on the device. Is there another option to enhance the home screen (i like black but looking for something fancy like the upcaoming SBP mobile shell 5.0...). Another issue understand that there is no radio too, so could i download a radio cab or will this not work or and at least could i download an HTC Desire z rom at a later stage....
How is the keyboard, can i write mail quickly...

you can download fancy widget if u want the weather clock from htc sense

psh whaaaaat!!! do u want my address so u can mail it to me? htc sense is bloat city but to each his own. you can always get the g2's sister: htc desire z or download panda home, they have a htc sense theme thats very theme-y to the touch and look. seriously send that g2 my way.

Timossss said:
Dear All,
kindly help me on my concern. I friend of mine just offered me a G2 but i dont like the homescreen of all. Would there be no way to get HTC sense on a later stage or will this option not be allowed on the device. Is there another option to enhance the home screen (i like black but looking for something fancy like the upcaoming SBP mobile shell 5.0...). Another issue understand that there is no radio too, so could i download a radio cab or will this not work or and at least could i download an HTC Desire z rom at a later stage....
How is the keyboard, can i write mail quickly...
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Yes,the answer is positive.
You can get a ROM with HTCSense.com once it's fully rooted anf THAT won't be far from now.(At least I think so)