Evo 4G off Contract... Am I in for a surprise? - EVO 4G General

I am a T-mobile user. Recently, I want to use sprint's 4G network because I know I can get it; My family is using it all day...
The thing is, I don't want to be tied down into sprint's 2 Year contract. Therefore, I want to buy a used Evo 4G off craigslist, and go in with someone into a sprint store and complete the transaction and complete set-up.
My question is:
1) What is the benefit from getting an evo 4G off contract besides not being tied to a 2 year agreement?
2) Will it be cheaper if the person is selling me the phone for $250.00 USD Mint condition?
3) Will sprint force me to have a data plan if I have this phone? Let's just say, I didnt want a data plan next month, will they let me do this?
Thanks for helping guys. Look forward to your replies.

While there are many educated people on here who can help you, I would suggest going to a Sprint store first and asking them straight up. Don't feel pressured to sign a contract, just tell them what you want and if they can't give it to you, then there are usually ways around it...

lemonspeakers said:
I am a T-mobile user. Recently, I want to use sprint's 4G network because I know I can get it; My family is using it all day...
The thing is, I don't want to be tied down into sprint's 2 Year contract. Therefore, I want to buy a used Evo 4G off craigslist, and go in with someone into a sprint store and complete the transaction and complete set-up.
My question is:
1) What is the benefit from getting an evo 4G off contract besides not being tied to a 2 year agreement?
2) Will it be cheaper if the person is selling me the phone for $250.00 USD Mint condition?
3) Will sprint force me to have a data plan if I have this phone? Let's just say, I didnt want a data plan next month, will they let me do this?
Thanks for helping guys. Look forward to your replies.
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1) Other than the subsidized price none... of course you could count in the ability to jump ship if you dont like the service.
2) Well some have found the EVO for $99 on amazon with a contract (and possibly new line)...
3) Yes. A data plan is required for all smartphones, on top of that they will add the $10 4G EVO fee. Since you are not getting a contract they might give you a hard time about this.

fenixjn said:
1)3) Yes. A data plan is required for all smartphones, on top of that they will add the $10 4G EVO fee. Since you are not getting a contract they might give you a hard time about this.
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HAHA that was worded beautifully. Another shameless label would be. The 10 dollar a month "cool phone" fee

Sprint requires a new contract for any new line of service whether you have taken promotional pricing on a phone or not.

pididente said:
Sprint requires a new contract for any new line of service whether you have taken promotional pricing on a phone or not.
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yeah exactly, not sure why the OP thinks that bringing an Evo he purchased 2nd hand is going to prevent him from being locked into a 2 year service agreement when opening a new account.

He's used to T-Mobile who has plans that don't require contracts.

Sprint does actually have a no contract, month to month plan, but I don't think the EVO can go on it.
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yeah exactly, not sure why the OP thinks that bringing an Evo he purchased 2nd hand is going to prevent him from being locked into a 2 year service agreement when opening a new account.
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I don't think the 2 year agreement is required. Though I could be wrong. But if he already got his phone, the only thing they could do is charge him the $10 cool fee. You got an evo so you have to be on a 2 year agreement? Gimmie a f-ing break. But any discounts you try to get will land you on a two year agreement.
Sent from my f-ing space ship.

If you put this on sprints network, you have to have the data plan.

If you are adding any new line with Sprint, you will be required to enter a 2 year contract regardless of getting any discounts on phones. Even if you are adding a line to an existing plan, you will be required to enter the contract.
What I would do if you really want to use the Evo is to sign up and take the best phone that they will give you for free. You can hold onto it for 30 days and sell it if you decide to stay with Sprint. Or just keep it as a backup phone. But look around, sometimes amazon or best buy will give out very nice deals on some good phones.
Or forget Sprint all together and try to activate the Evo on another carrier.

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Purchasing for T Mobile users: The Breakdown

Thinking about purchasing the nexus one? Here is a breakdown for all T Mobile customers of what's required.
Purchase Link
If you have a family plan, shared plan, flexpay plan or corporate account you will need to change before going to purchase the nexus one from the link above. Once all the above items are removed/changed then you are good to go and can enjoy the upgraded discount.
Quote from Nexus site "You can choose to purchase the Nexus One from the Google Phone Webstore without service for $529 USD, or with a qualifying T-Mobile US service plan at a discounted price:
Nexus One without service: $529
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for new customers: $179
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are adding data plans: $279
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are upgrading their data plans: $379"
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I only paid 179.99 but that's because i opened a new line of service and got a new number. Be aware that if you open a new line of service to get the 179.99 price you CANNOT cancel your other line of service early or you will have to pay a 200.00 fee for early termination. The only option you have is to switch it to a home phone plan. If you decide to go that route as I did then it is 10.00 a month. It uses your sim card and a router that you get from T Mobile for 40.00. You must have a high speed connection to use this option.
I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
Edit: Just saw your post in the other thread. I think what you're saying confirms what the T-mo rep told me earlier today. She said that if I switched from my old grandfathered plan to the Even More 500 plan, then I'd be eligible for the $179 price. Not that I'm going to do it... it's cheaper for me to stick to my current plan and buying the phone unlocked.
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I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
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Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
rantrav said:
Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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Sorry, people on here seem to like 'hard evidence' that is only text from another person. I am sure that this has been the plan since the beginning. Google, obviously having the upper hand and being in control, is calling the shots on how this works. T-Mobile, being an underdog, was probably given first dibs with this being part of the deal. But, I do agree with you. I bought it unlocked and would have rather saved the money and updated my phone with current plan. The guys post was something about he had a "grandfathered" in plan and was eligible through TMO for the update but with it being through Google he wasn't able to.... I guess all we can say is 'okay' and mush on.
I would have bought the unlocked version as well but I'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well I hope anyways lol.
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
For people interested in the tmo family plans, here is some math.
Getting 2 subsidized phones over a two-year period breaks down to an extra $15 a month ([$180 x2]/24). 2 unlocked phones is $44 a month ([$530 x2]/24).
Looking at text and web family plans with no annual contracts, its $109.99 for 750mins, $119.99 for 1500mins and $139.99 for unlimited. This gives you freedom of picking your plans or switching to another carrier that supports this phone.
Knowing that if you get the subsidized version, you will be paying $160 a month plus the breakdown of $15 a month (spreading out what you pay up front for the devices) it comes to $175 a month.
With the unlocked device price breakdown at $44 a month, you can see you will save money if you buy the unlocked phone and use either the 750min or 1500min family plans as they will cost you $154 and $164 respectively.
This is a two year savings of $504 and $264!
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Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I love the first post that clearly states "only new T-mobile customers are eligible to purchase Nexus One at the discounted price of $179." If thats true then why did I get one for 179.99, I've been with them for 7 years! lol
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Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I have a family plan with 4 lines so I had to break down and pay full price.... same when the G1 came out. Only reason is because i feel like this phone I will keep for some time. I hope. Google, I think, will be getting a lot of heat about this. I took a look at the link and there are A LOT of pissed off people on there. But GOOG does have the money to blow.
This is interesting guys
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=06a361e72a26b798&hl=en
ryanmo5 said:
i would have bought the unlocked version as well but i'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well i hope anyways lol.
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theyre all unlocked
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theyre all unlocked
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Oops lmao, I meant without service
I actually bought the unlocked phone for $530,-. I have another 6 months on my contract.
But this way, I'll be contract free, and am actually SAVING money now, because I had a G1 with Myfav600, which was $80,- a month.
And I never even come close to using my 600 minutes.
So the 500 plus plan is perfect for me. And I save $20,- a month.
And , when they get the Voip thing happening, I can use that as well, since I have a Google Voice number.
i'm a current T-mob customer with 9 mo left on my 2 yr contract i got with my G1, once i get some extra cash saved up i plan to pay the full price for the nexus one because for me at least i currently spend $53 a month on my service with t-mob and don't care or benefit to change it and if i could extend my contract and pay less for the phone by some amount it will still save me more in the long run by not having to pay for the dumb 80 dollar a month plan they force you to have by going that route
this is of course as long as they do not change their tune on how they are handling this before i'm ready to purchase the phone i.e. give me a discount of some amount to upgrade and keep my current plan or one very close to it
Im currently on the even more plus 500+unlimited text+Web
On flex pay. Iam so lucky i didnt sign a 2 year contract!
I just hope tmobile doesnt try to make me pay 80 if i buy the phone without a plan. Just going to pop in my sim from G1
I've posted this in a couple other threads but it should help here.
I'll tell everyone up front I worked for T-Mobile customer care for the last 4 years up until this past June and was a supervisor for the last year of my time there.
If you currently have a single line plan that is out of contract is qualifies through T-Mobile for the full discount but Google is giving you the price that is almost $400 here is what you can do it get around it. And change to the Even More plans prior WILL NOT fix this issue.
Alot of people are getting bad information from TMobile about what needs to be done because the reps were given almost no information about the ordering process. So most reps and just going with the flow to try and get people off the phone.
When you go to order the phone with Google select the option to add a new line to your account. It will give you the 179.99 price for adding the new line. Once the new phone comes in the mail call T-Mobile and cancel your old line and ask them to put a "request old number back" request to replace the new number with your old one. This takes about 24 hours to go through. During that 24 hours your old number will not work because you have to cancel it before you do this.
I know for a fact this will work but the rep you talk to may give you crap about doing this and not let you because they want to be a ****. If you're worried about that call and cancel you old line when you get the phone then call back and talk to another rep and tell them to put in the request for you.
Don't you have to pay the 200 dollar ETF if you cancel a line?
There's no ETF if the line has no contract. So if you add a new line to get the discount you can cancel the old one without a fee
Ah I missed that part. I am trying to get the 180 price and I only have a few months left on my contract and they won't upgrade it. They will let me add a new line of service though.

No contract EVO on family plan?

I looked through the threads and didn't see any topics about this, but if there are, my bad!
My question sort of has two parts:
Can I buy an EVO at full retail price so I'm not under contract? I just called Sprint customer service and they said they don't offer devices at full retail price, but could I buy it from Walmart or Best Buy, then have Sprint activate it on a new account? The customer service rep did say that in order to activate a new number, I would have to sign up for a 2 year contract, but I'm not sure if that's true if I bring my own device.
The other part of my question is, if I can get an EVO without a contract, could I then be on a family plan with my girlfriend if she gets an EVO for $200 on a two year contract? So it'd be a family plan split between two EVOs, one under a two year contract and one without a contract.
I'm hoping I can somehow make this work, I'm not a fan of contracts (I'm on T-Mo with no contract and I'm not sure what the status of my gf's dumb-phone on Verizon is).
Any help would be great! Thanks
That makes no sense you can buy it on Sprint's site at full price.
$450. Best Buy sells it for $500. You do have to have a plan that supports the phone though. Anyone who tells you differently is lieing because they don't make commissions when you don't extend your contract.
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Good luck finding a EVO off contract. At the Best buy and Sprint stores they were being real stingy with them, lying to people trying to get one without a contract and saying they were out of stock and they only have reserved phones.
Unless you already had the number that you wanted to purchase the off contract evo on already tied to sprint, you are out of luck. Once we activate a new line on a phone it will automatically create a new contract. It's the same concept as bringing in an old phone to activate it, you will still have a 2 yr contract but you will be eligible for your upgrade at any point in time. What you are trying to do is pointless because you still end up with a contract. Might as well just pay discounted price.
Unless you already had the number that you wanted to purchase the off contract evo on already tied to sprint, you are out of luck. Once we activate a new line on a phone it will automatically create a new contract. It's the same concept as bringing in an old phone to activate it, you will still have a 2 yr contract but you will be eligible for your upgrade at any point in time. What you are trying to do is pointless because you still end up with a contract. Might as well just pay discounted price.
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If he already has a plan that supports the Evo he won't need to extend the contract. The $10 data charge is treated like an add-on. Best Buy sold the guy next to me a full price Evo, that being said opening week is the hardest to buy a full price phone off of contract.
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If he already has a plan that supports the Evo he won't need to extend the contract. The $10 data charge is treated like an add-on. Best Buy sold the guy next to me a full price Evo, that being said opening week is the hardest to buy a full price phone off of contract.
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Correct. But he said that he was with T-mobile. So in going with that I'm making the assumption that he doesn't have a sprint line, and he is more than likely porting over the number. If he does port over the number to create a new line then all the afformentioned contract info still applies. And at that, even with the small amount, at my store we were selling phones flat out if the customer did not yet qualify. A sale is a sale is a sale.
Oops I missed the TMobile part. Yeah new contract is the only way to go.
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evo off contract

i asked this in a thread a while back, but it got passed up.
if you purchased and activated an evo off contract, what was there to gain? it seems like it wouldn't be worth it for the evo, since everyone was supposed to upgrade their plan a mandatory simply everything data plan + premium data. before with other phones, i could see the allure, but now, not so much, unless you found a way to keep your old plan.
i suppose if you weren't due for an upgrade, you had no other option but to buy it that way. Then Sprint can change your plan without extending your contract.
radar5 said:
i suppose if you weren't due for an upgrade, you had no other option but to buy it that way. Then Sprint can change your plan without extending your contract.
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that makes sense. it just seemed like alot of people got it in their heads that they would not be tied down to a contract no matter what, and it didn't seem to be worth it anymore.
radar5 said:
i suppose if you weren't due for an upgrade, you had no other option but to buy it that way. Then Sprint can change your plan without extending your contract.
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Lol i laugh when customers tell me they arent due for an Upgrade. Ive upgraded 4 times this year. But yea there is NO way yo keep your old plan. The Evo is only compatible with the Everything Data Plan and the Simply Everything Plan. No exceptions. Ive tryed everything to get around it. I had to leave me Sero Plan to get the evo
i'm on the everything data plus plan (long story) but that was about all i could do.
I got mine off contract, and the only thing that changed in my plan was adding the additonal $10 fee, which did not affect my contract expiration date (which is still October 1st).
I bought mine from best buy for the $200 dollar two year contract. My old contract expired earlier this year. Now, somehow my account shows that my contract expired 2 1/2 years ago. Not that I'm complaining, but anyone know how that could have happened? I double checked with the upgrade checker on best buys website, it shows the same thing.
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I got mine off contract, and the only thing that changed in my plan was adding the additonal $10 fee, which did not affect my contract expiration date (which is still October 1st).
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expiration dates don't change if you are not receiving anything (subsidized phone on the same line, 75/150 off your bill.)
i should have wrote "mandatory". it looks like you lucked out. what plan do you have?
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expiration dates don't change if you are not receiving anything (subsidized phone on the same line, 75/150 off your bill.)
i should have wrote "mandatory". it looks like you lucked out. what plan do you have?
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How did I luck out? I didn't renew my contract because I bought it off contract. Anyone else could do the same thing. No one forces you to use an upgrade.
with google voice account... seems like sprint could turn your phone off and you could still have a phone...lol
I buy all my phones outright. I would have bought my Evo if I didn't get one free from Google. Only phone I ever got on-contract was my 1st gen iPhone. At this point I go through 2 phones a year so off contract is way cheaper for me.
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How did I luck out? I didn't renew my contract because I bought it off contract. Anyone else could do the same thing. No one forces you to use an upgrade.
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i thought everyone had to change their plan to one of the new ones regardless if they activated an evo on their account. if my last statement is correct (barring rulebending/sweetalking/retentions/ etc. or the oct. 1st sero rumor), then you are lucky to have your same plan (+$10).
StevenCCCP said:
I buy all my phones outright. I would have bought my Evo if I didn't get one free from Google. Only phone I ever got on-contract was my 1st gen iPhone. At this point I go through 2 phones a year so off contract is way cheaper for me.
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i used to get mine off contract, but with having to get the new plan, i just didn't see a reason. once again, your situation is somewhat different than the norm since you got the i/o phone, and since you switch phones so often, it would make sense as your phones retain most of their resale value. i guess my question goes out more to the people who are eligible for a full upgrade.
thanks for the replies
The additional $10 fee doesn't change or extend your plan. It just adds $10/month, the same way insurance adds $7/month.
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The additional $10 fee doesn't change or extend your plan. It just adds $10/month, the same way insurance adds $7/month.
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True, with OTHER PHONES. If you (or anyone else) were able to get by without having to change plans, cool, they just didn't write the terms that way for THIS PHONE.
"If you’re already a Sprint customer but have a different plan, you’ll have to change plans when you activate your device. Also, once you change your plan, you will not be able to change back to your old plan if we no longer sell it, even if you go back to your old phone."
Nothing in their verbage says you have to extend your contract of enter one if you pay full price or get it from another party, but the terms for the evo state that if you use the phone on sprint, you have to change your plan. will people be able to get away without having to? of course, but I already mentioned that in my last post.
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I got mine off contract, and the only thing that changed in my plan was adding the additonal $10 fee, which did not affect my contract expiration date (which is still October 1st).
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I thought Sprint was not selling them off-contract?
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True, with OTHER PHONES. If you (or anyone else) were able to get by without having to change plans, cool, they just didn't write the terms that way for THIS PHONE.
"If you’re already a Sprint customer but have a different plan, you’ll have to change plans when you activate your device. Also, once you change your plan, you will not be able to change back to your old plan if we no longer sell it, even if you go back to your old phone."
Nothing in their verbage says you have to extend your contract of enter one if you pay full price or get it from another party, but the terms for the evo state that if you use the phone on sprint, you have to change your plan. will people be able to get away without having to? of course, but I already mentioned that in my last post.
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I'm pretty sure that is for people on those ancient SERO plans that give them unlimited data for like $40. I already had an unlimited everything plan, so I just needed the $10 fee.
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I thought Sprint was not selling them off-contract?
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I got mine from Google I/O, but my local stores were selling them for the $450 MSRP.
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with google voice account... seems like sprint could turn your phone off and you could still have a phone...lol
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I am pretty sure that would only work where you have a WiFi signal, and you may be limited to no MMS, since MMS can't be sent/received over WiFI.
NOW, If you were to let sprint turn you off, and start an account with CLEAR for their WiFi and used your Google Voice number, I THINK you would have phone and Data Anywhere there is a Clear signal....
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Lol i laugh when customers tell me they arent due for an Upgrade. Ive upgraded 4 times this year. But yea there is NO way yo keep your old plan. The Evo is only compatible with the Everything Data Plan and the Simply Everything Plan. No exceptions. Ive tryed everything to get around it. I had to leave me Sero Plan to get the evo
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I'm confused...how did you get 4 upgrades in a year? I would love 4 upgrades a year. I could get another evo or epic for someone else on my plan.
beandogg said:
I'm confused...how did you get 4 upgrades in a year? I would love 4 upgrades a year. I could get another evo or epic for someone else on my plan.
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He's apparently an employee. Just do what I do: Keep your phone in very good condition and sell it when you get another one. I sold my ancient Hero for $300 when the EVO came out, which is more than the rebates.
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I am pretty sure that would only work where you have a WiFi signal, and you may be limited to no MMS, since MMS can't be sent/received over WiFI.
NOW, If you were to let sprint turn you off, and start an account with CLEAR for their WiFi and used your Google Voice number, I THINK you would have phone and Data Anywhere there is a Clear signal....
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thanks captain obvious.... i didnt write that cuz its an understood, right? besides, wifi is just about everywhere. meh @ MMS when you have email accounts. Sometimes you gotta sacrifice and venture other avenues to do what you like

Pre-order from Radio Shack starts tomorrow $249 no rebate

My RadioShack guy just called me today and they'll be taking pre-orders for Epic 4G. You need to buy $50 gift card to reserve the phone and it could be used towards the Epic on 8/31 when you pick it up.
I hate dealing with rebates, I reserved two Epic's already.
katiedonut said:
My RadioShack guy just called me today and they'll be taking pre-orders for Epic 4G. You need to buy $50 gift card to reserve the phone and it could be used towards the Epic on 8/31 when you pick it up.
I hate dealing with rebates, I reserved two Epic's already.
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if im adding a line to an existing line (theyve been there for years), do i get the same 129.99 deal for two unlimited lines that id be getting from sprint? or do i have to buy the epic from a sprint store in order for me to get that deal
I hate rebates but i don't like $18 activation fees
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I hate rebates but i don't like $18 activation fees
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I had that issue with my first phone, it was free via 3rd party but I had to pay ~$45 for activation, still cheaper then phone. I called sprint because for some reason I was charged $.02 for roaming, and I wanted to make sure it was a mistake because I didn't think Sprint charged roaming.
Anyway, Sprint noticed I paid the activation fee and credited it to my account because "Sprint doesn't charge for activation, period."
This was 2 years ago though, still more then worth it with the $50 gift card.
I'll prefer to hear from BestBuy (Mobile) and rather get it from them. Too many horror stories about the Shack and inventory levels when it comes to replacements and such.
I need to handle and play with it first at the store before rushing in anyway...
I really want this but that $10 add on for the so called "premium data" will probably keep me away from it. Even though it's only $10 if I end up having 5 devices that would raise my bill $50. I use 5 times the data on my palm pre than my wifes EVO so I don't know where they get this premium data charge from.
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I really want this but that $10 add on for the so called "premium data" will probably keep me away from it. Even though it's only $10 if I end up having 5 devices that would raise my bill $50. I use 5 times the data on my palm pre than my wifes EVO so I don't know where they get this premium data charge from.
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Ughh I'm not 100% sure, but I think it get's added to your plan as a whole not per line.
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Ughh I'm not 100% sure, but I think it get's added to your plan as a whole not per line.
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Yes it does but I'm just looking down the road. Are they going to start this with every new smartphone by using the premium data excuse to get an extra 10 out of you? 4 out of my 5 lines are smartphones so when I want to upgrade I'm thinking they will require premium data plans for all new smartphones. It does suck because I really want the Epic but that would be $20 more a month if you count the EVO I already have.
So, I'm debating which route to go for the Epic. Sprint Store vs RadioShack vs Best Buy.
I know that the MSRP is $499.99, -$150 upgrade discount, -$100 MIR, making it $249.99.
I've already reserved one at the local Sprint store. What I'm wondering is which option would I benefit from an instant rebate vs having to deal with the mail in rebate, and also, which option would allow me to split the cost over several billing cycles as opposed to it all up front. I've done that with prior upgrades, but always by ordering over the phone from Sprint directly.
If I walk in to the Sprint store on 8/31, I'd think they'd be able to bill my account, but will I have to deal with the mail in rebate hassle?
If I pre-order from RadioShack or Best Buy, it's $249.99 out the door, but would they be able to do the just bill my account part?
Thanks in advance for any advice, thoughts, information, or personal experiences in similar upgrade situations.
GrandMstrBud said:
Yes it does but I'm just looking down the road. Are they going to start this with every new smartphone by using the premium data excuse to get an extra 10 out of you? 4 out of my 5 lines are smartphones so when I want to upgrade I'm thinking they will require premium data plans for all new smartphones. It does suck because I really want the Epic but that would be $20 more a month if you count the EVO I already have.
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No.
Like, flat no.
My friend's family all have EVOs on their family plan. That's four EVOs. They pay $10 extra, and that's it. Not $40.
DevinXtreme said:
No.
Like, flat no.
My friend's family all have EVOs on their family plan. That's four EVOs. They pay $10 extra, and that's it. Not $40.
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Are you 100% sure that it's $10 extra for the entire plan? If so I'll reserve my Epic tomorrow.
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Are you 100% sure that it's $10 extra for the entire plan? If so I'll reserve my Epic tomorrow.
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110%.
If you don't want to take my word for it, call the Sprint store you're reserving it from. They'll tell you the same.
DevinXtreme said:
110%.
If you don't want to take my word for it, call the Sprint store you're reserving it from. They'll tell you the same.
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Nope, just called sprint and they told me it's per line not per account.
I called my local Radio Shack and they put on this waiting list tonight (Thursday night). They just took my name and phone number and said I was #1 on the list. I don't trust not having to put down a deposit, so I'll stop by there tomorrow and put down the deposit if necessary. I want to make sure that I'm really on the preorder list.
How much will it be if your not due for an upgrade?
It's 10 dollars per line for every 4G phone, the 10 bucks goes towards the cost of the 4G build out so I really don't mind, I have (not my friend or my cousin, me) I have 2 4G phones on my account and 2 non 4G lines I pay 10 dollars extra per 4G phone the non-4G phones have no extra cost associated with them.
Radio Shack has a preorder available online
http://radioshackwireless.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=25578_61828632547a4733a93e527cc70a92ba
also, device details
DevinXtreme said:
110%.
If you don't want to take my word for it, call the Sprint store you're reserving it from. They'll tell you the same.
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Go to Sprint.com and start the order process for a 4G phone. When they give the price break down they add $10 for every line/phone that is 4G. Your friend misinformed you.
Pops_G said:
Go to Sprint.com and start the order process for a 4G phone. When they give the price break down they add $10 for every line/phone that is 4G. Your friend misinformed you.
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Is it possible he got a deal or something? We went over his bill because I was asking the same question... Weird.
Anyone know if there is an activation fee for upgrading at RS?
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Sprint increasing 3G data plan pricing by $10/mo

WTF is this all about ?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/18/sprint-increasing-new-3g-data-plan-contract-pricing-by-10-call/
The nation's third-largest carrier just announced that it's tacking on an extra monthly $10 "premium data" charge to its 3G Everything data plans.
Now only if my Evo could operate at 3g speeds that would be freaking awesome.
FYI: 70Kbps is not acceptable for 3g speeds, wtf.
Learn to read. It's only for new customers and new smartphone activations via upgrades. If you don't upgrade then you don't get the charge.
cosine83 said:
Learn to read. It's only for new customers and new smartphone activations via upgrades. If you don't upgrade then you don't get the charge.
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But won't I get whacked for this new $10 charge when I upgrade to the EVO 2 this June ? So will EVO 2 charge me $10 for 4G + 10$ for 3G too ?
cosine83 said:
Learn to read. It's only for new customers and new smartphone activations via upgrades. If you don't upgrade then you don't get the charge.
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Still a slap in the face. That means when your contract is up and you buy that new phone, you are also paying 10$ more (can anyone confirm if this is added onto the 10$ we pay for 4g?).
I'm pretty sure if you have a 4G phone that comes with a $10 charge anyway, you'll just keep paying the same additional $10. I think this extra $10 is only for people on 3G phones. So basically, everyone's paying that additional $10 now.
The "4g" fee now applies to all smartphones, that's all.
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js2393 said:
I'm pretty sure if you have a 4G phone that comes with a $10 charge anyway, you'll just keep paying the same additional $10. I think this extra $10 is only for people on 3G phones. So basically, everyone's paying that additional $10 now.
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it can't get much clearer then this people, so no if you have a 4g phone you won't be paying $20, you only be paying the $10 that we already are, this additional fee is just for regular 3g phones.
Yeah. The are starting to see $ signs and possibly getting greedy. I'm going to follow this thread so I can see the same people claim that it's all lies.
The funny thing is I was talking to a rep yesterday about the new upgrade policy and brought up the $10 premium data. I asked her how come an HTC Hero doesn't have the charge and it accesses the same internet and it considered close to the Evo aside from 4G. I even told her that I would expect Sprint to make that charge mandatory on all phones being that they are seeing they can get away with it with current Evo owners.
That's the price you pay for a smartphone nowadays.
Wouldn't a better marketing strategy be to just incrrease the cost of the Everyting data plan to $79.99 and $139.99? Even with the increase Sprint's plans are the best out there. Extra charges piss me off though.
Ddt928 said:
Wouldn't a better marketing strategy be to just incrrease the cost of the Everyting data plan to $79.99 and $139.99? Even with the increase Sprint's plans are the best out there. Extra charges piss me off though.
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that would make more since honestly, but then what about the 4g phones then, lol, since a single line for the evo is already 79.99, that would be like tacking on another $10 on that so they could say it's a whatever fee, then someone ends up paying 89.99, cause they didn't realize they are getting screwed more then normal, though i would hope and think sprint would say the evo would only be 79.99 as any other smartphone would be.
So I guess its clear now that the David Blaine thing on the 7th is for making more of your money disappear along with premium status.
brownhornet said:
So I guess its clear now that the David Blaine thing on the 7th is for making more of your money disappear along with premium status.
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Same thing I was thinking.
Well all you "4g premium fee" complainers. Not so unfair you have to pay an extra 10 bucks anymore? LOL. Part of me is wondering if this is their way to make the 4g phone lineup more appealing..."you're gonna pay a premium anyways, why not have the ability to use 4g just in case we decide to roll it out in your city...as long as we don't go broke before then."
Welcome to the (give us money) NOW network!
my guess is that their announcement has to do with adding new cool phones that are 3G.
iphone could be a possibility, but maybe they'll say they allow any CDMA phone on their network.
illwafer said:
my guess is that their announcement has to do with adding new cool phones that are 3G.
iphone could be a possibility, but maybe they'll say they allow any CDMA phone on their network.
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http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...-unlocking-phones/&category=mobile&postPage=1
Sprint already had a lawsuit over this. You "should" be able to put iPhone from Verizon on sprint. Quoting a Rep.
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aray92 said:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...-unlocking-phones/&category=mobile&postPage=1
Sprint already had a lawsuit over this. You "should" be able to put iPhone from Verizon on sprint. Quoting a Rep.
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Funny, when I was on the phone with a Sprint rep last month getting my unlocked EVO activated the lady said they can activate phone 'as long as its labeled with the Sprint logo'. I figured she was wrong or lying but I just wanted to get off the phone.
It's about to get worse. There are rumors that Sprint is going to drop the Premier Upgrade every 12 months program. That they will NOT give Sprint Premiere customers the rebates until their two year contract is up. IF this is the case I will be leaving Sprint as soon as they announce this. They just can't get out of their own way. One of the main reasons I stay with Sprint is because of their annual upgrades. It would not shock me to see Sprint file bankruptcy if they start to implement all these idiotic plans.
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216413
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/58531?start=0&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec
The thing that sucks about this and might be the reason why they just didn't add $10 to plans is that corporate or work discounts do not apply to these fees and only towards the base plan. I was mad when they took the discounts off the $19.99 additional lines.
I won't leave Sprint over this because they are still cheaper, especially with our work discount but I guess I have no reason not to get my wife a 4G phone. I was hoping to save some money since we get 4G at work but not at home and she wouldn't use 4G anyway.
However, if this happens in addition to the Sprint Premier changes, I am going to get really mad for getting screwed in two places.
As long as my data is still unlimited i'll be happy. I don't come anywhere near 2gb or 5gb but if they start screwing around i'll say screw it and buy a damn contract free phone. I like my mobile internet but what they're all doing now is getting a little silly.
They have to raise prices as needed but they should've just upped the whole plan without a $10 tack on. The whole point of Sprint's pricing scheme is to keep it simple for people. That was one of the biggest reasons I came to sprint this year. That and the EVO of course

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