[Q] 1 mbit/s or 6 mbit/s ?? - Desire HD General

Hi guys!
Really looking forward to play with my DHD when I get it.
Haven't decided if i should take the unlimited surf with "up to 1 mbit/s" or the "up to 6 mbit/s" with the deal from my operator.
I am going to see a lot of videos and stuff on the internet. like flash videos and such. and of course a lot of other surfing to. But I guess the flash videos (or just all kinds of videos) will need a lot of speed. I dont want to sit there and wait for it to "buffering" all day.
So what do you guys think ?? Is 1 mbit/s enough?? or do you think I need 6 mbit/s ?? I do have cover for up to 10 mbit/s where I live.
1 mbit/s is around US$ 15/month...
6 mbit/s is around US$ 30/month...
$15 is ok, I can pay that but 30 is to much I think. but still.. if I need that speed to do the things I want to do....I'll guess I just have to pay!!

jensaberglund said:
Hi guys!
Really looking forward to play with my DHD when I get it.
Haven't decided if i should take the unlimited surf with "up to 1 mbit/s" or the "up to 6 mbit/s" with the deal from my operator.
I am going to see a lot of videos and stuff on the internet. like flash videos and such. and of course a lot of other surfing to. But I guess the flash videos (or just all kinds of videos) will need a lot of speed. I dont want to sit there and wait for it to "buffering" all day.
So what do you guys think ?? Is 1 mbit/s enough?? or do you think I need 6 mbit/s ?? I do have cover for up to 10 mbit/s where I live.
1 mbit/s is around US$ 15/month...
6 mbit/s is around US$ 30/month...
$15 is ok, I can pay that but 30 is to much I think. but still.. if I need that speed to do the things I want to do....I'll guess I just have to pay!!
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well, you can try this before you buy - try to limit your internet access to 6 mb/s and see if that suits you. Then you may set yourself a 1 mbit/s limit and see how that works for you

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Internet through DUN speed question

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thank you to everyone that posts answers, help, and roms here. Using this site I was able to unlock and put a new rom on my 8125. I am still having some problems I was hoping an upgrade would have helped with. I have spent many hours reading on how to fix my problem and have not found it yet... so I ask here..
I don't have a data plan and will not get one..( I am cheap). I have t-mobile with my favs so I made my ISP's phone number on of my favs... so I can stay on line as long as I want at no charge...This workes great after I read here how to set it up.... My problem is speed... I tested it on a site and got only
6k for the test. I was hoping I could get at least 14.4 out of the modem. Is there some please to adjust the baud rate or something... The line I am calling can go 56k... any help??
Thanks
life sucks when you go cheap.
You have no way of increasing the speed i am afraid. You might get a better speed at 3am but that is about it. GPRS is slooow, that is why you need a 3g phone and the little old wizard isn't one thats why i have a hermes
How long have you been with t-mobile?
At my last upgrade (last year) they gave my a 25% line rental discount and threw in free web n walk access for free, which is gprs.
If your due an upgrade, get a phone with hdspa in the phone and get the web n walk for free, then what you can do is go into your account via t-mobile website then you can upgrade to web n walk plus for about an extra 5 a month (uk)
Thats the cheapest way i know of doing it.
veda_sticks said:
How long have you been with t-mobile?
At my last upgrade (last year) they gave my a 25% line rental discount and threw in free web n walk access for free, which is gprs.
If your due an upgrade, get a phone with hdspa in the phone and get the web n walk for free, then what you can do is go into your account via t-mobile website then you can upgrade to web n walk plus for about an extra 5 a month (uk)
Thats the cheapest way i know of doing it.
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I have been T-mobile for 4 years, I have 1000 shared minutes, with 5 lines including texting, plus my favs for each line for everything it's $99 a month. I talked to them 2 weeks ago and they told me I better hold on to this deal because anything else will cost me more per month... I am happy with everything, but I use the 8125 to check email, weather, and a few other things while away from home. I have my ISP's dial up account as a fav so I can use it all I want at no charge with no minutes taken up... I just wanted faster access.. but as the last post said... cheap you get slow...
Thanks for the info though...
1ibandit
Take what is given and steal the rest...
I forgot to say .have you tried upgrading the radio on the wizard. If you can find one that increases reception the internet connection speed will also increase.

UK Price reduction

T-Mo UK now has the G1 free on a £30/m 18m contract. You get an 8GB memory card and WnW Plus (which gives you access to Wifi hotspots as well as "unlimited" 3G).
Quite tempted, but read so many so-so reviews of the hardware.
I just got mine on an upgrade. But i only got a 2gb card. No biggy. IMO the phone is great.
Its got a 528mhz processor
192mb ram
256mb rom
3mp camera
Bluetooth
wifi
gps
compas
accelerometer
Comes with a wired headset (usb connection, u can get a usb to 3.5mm adapter if you want to use a better headphones)
Battery life is ok. If your a heavy user of internet its going to drain the battery quick. Ive been charging twice a day when i use it alot. You can get a higher capacity battery aswell. Though its possible theres still a few bugs thats causing battery loss.
Dont have everything on all the time.
Its permenantly connected to the internet. Browsing speed is respectable and the browser is nice.
The hardware is great. We just need software to go with it. At the moment it only supports bluetooth headset. But that will change with new updates.
No virtual keyboard, but again thats coming aswell.
Gmail is great on it.
Text messaging works, though mms doesnt support videos and i dont think you can save to SD yet.
Theres still alot of support to add yet. pdf word etc
If your willing to put up with some missing features then its a great phone.
When you get it, its probably be on rc7. Youll get a notification of a new update. If you want to keep root access dont install it. rc8 update fixes the root access and isnt reversible at the moment.
If you no what your doing with linux terminal commands, id install the modified rc8 update that keeps root access, its explained in the development thread.
patp said:
T-Mo UK now has the G1 free on a £30/m 18m contract. You get an 8GB memory card and WnW Plus (which gives you access to Wifi hotspots as well as "unlimited" 3G).
Quite tempted, but read so many so-so reviews of the hardware.
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Do you know what minutes and messages you get on that?
I'm on the £40 one which allows you to spend £250 a month but i'll probably never use that so going down a level might be good for me...
Audiofreq said:
Do you know what minutes and messages you get on that?
I'm on the £40 one which allows you to spend £250 a month but i'll probably never use that so going down a level might be good for me...
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from what I've been told, you can't go down the price plan till you come to upgrade so you're stuck on what you've got unfortunatly.
the £30/month is either ther combi 25 + web'n'walk plus(£25/month + £5 for the web'n'walk. 300mins, 600texts) or the flext 30 + free web'n'walk plus(£30/month, £140 to spend a month). I tempted to get the flext 30 but also got my eye on the touch hd so not fully decided yet.
Ive just picked up the £30 a month combi plan from carphone warehouse. Got a 2gb memory card with it, not fussed about that. Really pleased with the phone so far, shame I was so hasty about upgrading. No root access for now .
Reg Hotspot
patp said:
T-Mo UK now has the G1 free on a £30/m 18m contract. You get an 8GB memory card and WnW Plus (which gives you access to Wifi hotspots as well as "unlimited" 3G).
Quite tempted, but read so many so-so reviews of the hardware.
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Hi there mate, on the wnw plus for the G1 you dont get unlimited hotspot
access because it's a promotional feature. You do get it usually but not with this Only know this because I work for T-Mobile
that sucks. do you think they coukd be persuaded to give in on that?
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saffyreuk said:
that sucks. do you think they coukd be persuaded to give in on that?
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No mate because of the way it would have to be set up on the account the features arent compatible
Its only a tenner for unlimited hotspot access which you can use on BTOZ's too.
10 a month? or a one off payment? i doubt i would use it very often and i have 3g. cant say it would be worth 10 a month but it would be nice on occasion.
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saffyreuk said:
10 a month? or a one off payment? i doubt i would use it very often and i have 3g. cant say it would be worth 10 a month but it would be nice on occasion.
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Yeah 10 a month, would be good if you were in starbucks a lot
yeah exactly. with the speed of 3g now i guess the main benefit would be saving on usage allowence.
still shame its not included, kind of annoying as i had assumed it had (my fault obv).
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saffyreuk said:
yeah exactly. with the speed of 3g now i guess the main benefit would be saving on usage allowence.
still shame its not included, kind of annoying as i had assumed it had (my fault obv).
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Dont worry about your data becoz if your in the UK (which i assume u are) then you dont have a data allowance, you have whats called a Fair use policy (or FUP) basiclly this means that you will never be charged for data with the WnW Plus feature, the only thing that may happen is if you go over your 3Gig FUP for 3 months in a row you will get a letter sent to u asking to reduce your usage and if you still go over it your speeds will be reduced to 64kbps for 2-4 weeks.
If you then go over it once more (were now up to 6/7 months in a row!!) it will be permanently reduced to 64 kbps or you can upgrade to the max version (about 20 quid per month extra) which gives a 10Gig FUP.
All i'm really saying is dont worry about it !! Surf away. (Untill you recieve a letter )
It actually isn't £30pm. Its £35pm. that's because the WnW if £5pm extra and you NEED it as the phone is an internet phone. Mines on that deal for 700 mins and unlimited txts, unlimited browsing.
Rmg12gra said:
It actually isn't £30pm. Its £35pm. that's because the WnW if £5pm extra and you NEED it as the phone is an internet phone. Mines on that deal for 700 mins and unlimited txts, unlimited browsing.
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the £30/month plans are the combi 25(£25/month + 5 for the w'n'p plus, 300mins, 600text(300texts if bought in store)) & the flext 30(£30/month + free w'n'w plus, £140 allowance to spend on mins, texts etc).
chris are you sure you can't use the t-mobile hotspots for free? the guy at my local store told me that you could(using the wifi on the g1, obv not on a laptop, ipod touch or other wifi capable device).
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fowler002 said:
the £30/month plans are the combi 25(£25/month + 5 for the w'n'p plus, 300mins, 600text(300texts if bought in store)) & the flext 30(£30/month + free w'n'w plus, £140 allowance to spend on mins, texts etc).
chris are you sure you can't use the t-mobile hotspots for free? the guy at my local store told me that you could(using the wifi on the g1, obv not on a laptop, ipod touch or other wifi capable device).
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Yeah am sure, even if you did get it there is no way they can tell if your using a g1 or a pc while using the hotspot. Go back to ur shop and tell the guy to check his facts !
ChrisMcCann said:
Yeah am sure, even if you did get it there is no way they can tell if your using a g1 or a pc while using the hotspot. Go back to ur shop and tell the guy to check his facts !
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I don't have a g1 yet(not fully decided yet, also looking at the touch hd), but wanted to check if the t-mobiles hotspots are included with the g1 plan.
looking on the forums on t-mobile.com(usa site)link if you download this hotspot app you can connect to the hotspot(tho reading that thread it seemed hit & miss, i.e. some people were able to others not able to), just wondered if there was a similar thing for the uk. I don't really travel much so its not really a big deal for me(don't think I'll be using up the 3gb fup anyway) but would have been nice to have.
if I was to put the sim into another non-g1 phone(be it t-mobile or sim-free), what is the fup on the internet in that case(1gb or still 3gb)? also will there be any problems making calls, texting etc? I currently don't have a job but if I was to start I might be putting the sim into another phone as I wouldn't want to loose the g1(places like sainsburys, toys r us don't like you to keep your phone on you during work and want you to leave it in the staff room).
fowler002 said:
I don't have a g1 yet(not fully decided yet, also looking at the touch hd), but wanted to check if the t-mobiles hotspots are included with the g1 plan.
looking on the forums on t-mobile.com(usa site)link if you download this hotspot app you can connect to the hotspot(tho reading that thread it seemed hit & miss, i.e. some people were able to others not able to), just wondered if there was a similar thing for the uk. I don't really travel much so its not really a big deal for me(don't think I'll be using up the 3gb fup anyway) but would have been nice to have.
if I was to put the sim into another non-g1 phone(be it t-mobile or sim-free), what is the fup on the internet in that case(1gb or still 3gb)? also will there be any problems making calls, texting etc? I currently don't have a job but if I was to start I might be putting the sim into another phone as I wouldn't want to loose the g1(places like sainsburys, toys r us don't like you to keep your phone on you during work and want you to leave it in the staff room).
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No T-Mob UK doesnt have anything like that mate
But you can use the sim in another fone and use the web free of charge as its your sim that has the feature on it - not specific to the fone
Well they don't make it very easy to find out what the difference is between web'n'walk, web'n'walk Plus and web'n'walk MAX, but on the info about hotspots it says:
WiFi HotSpot included in Mobile Broadband Plans
New customers that sign up to web'n'walk Max, Plus, or Plus Daily* can now enjoy WiFi access in any of our HotSpots across the UK. So on top of 3G coverage across the country, unlimited WiFi Hotspots are included in the price - in places where you need WiFi the most, such as airports, hotels and Starbucks.​
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/mobile-internet/on-your-laptop/free-wifi/
This was what I'd always understood about the Plus option- that it sanctions tethering and let's you use hotspots.
My current contract ends next month, and since it doesn't look like the UK is getting the Vario IV, I might just go for one of these.
And the T-Mobile 3G coverage is tremendous where I live, on my Vario II whenever I connect for data I get a nice little H symbol and a fast download speed, strangely, the coverage in Newcastle (upon Tyne, the real Newcastle!) the connection can be a bit hit and miss
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patp said:
Well they don't make it very easy to find out what the difference is between web'n'walk, web'n'walk Plus and web'n'walk MAX, but on the info about hotspots it says:
WiFi HotSpot included in Mobile Broadband Plans
New customers that sign up to web'n'walk Max, Plus, or Plus Daily* can now enjoy WiFi access in any of our HotSpots across the UK. So on top of 3G coverage across the country, unlimited WiFi Hotspots are included in the price - in places where you need WiFi the most, such as airports, hotels and Starbucks.​
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/mobile-internet/on-your-laptop/free-wifi/
This was what I'd always understood about the Plus option- that it sanctions tethering and let's you use hotspots.
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The standard plus option doesn't but because your getting the g1 plus option for a fiver (or free on flext) it isn't included as it is a promo !

Questions from an Android Newbie

Hi Guys, I am looking to get an Android phone in the next month or 2, and I have kinda fallen for the Vodaphone Magic. But I have a couple of questions that you guys might be able to answer.
The Vodaphone UK contract come with "unlimited" Data - actually 500mb a month. I am looking to use the net almost all the time (web surfing, Last.fm, email, spotify (when it comes...) google maps etc. Is this a reasonable amount of data allowance for this type of use, or will I probably go over it...
Can you get BBC Iplayer on this phone over 3G?
Thanks Guys....
Nick
nickb23 said:
The Vodaphone UK contract come with "unlimited" Data - actually 500mb a month. I am looking to use the net almost all the time (web surfing, Last.fm, email, spotify (when it comes...) google maps etc. Is this a reasonable amount of data allowance for this type of use, or will I probably go over it...
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Just do the maths (I'm assuming bytes not bits) 500MB per month equals 0.7MB per hour which is more than a last.fm song but I'm guessing your not going to be using it ALL the time Last.fm and Spotify will be the main eaters of Bandwidth. Browsing, e-mail and Web won't use much Bandwidth at all.
nickb23 said:
Can you get BBC Iplayer on this phone over 3G?
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Yes, there is an app for it but obviously it is not a supported app by the BBC
You should be fine, just be careful with last.fm as constantly streaming music will get you close. I'm pretty sure there's an app out there on the market that can track data usage, you probably should download it when you get the phone.
Wi-fi
Also remember to make use of wi-fi areas. So if you're at work try and use an available router or sweet-talk an IT guy. At home remember to use your own wi-fi (if you have one).
Hi moremadness2001,
Slight problem,
I am the IT Guy!!!!!!! - I work in Primary Schools in the UK, were WiFi is still not used greatly, due to it being so unreliable...
I think 500mb per month is enough? I just want to never come to a point using it where I have to worry about if I have come to the end of my limit..
Also how big are apps usually?
from 20 kb to a few megs.. I've not seen any more than that (that i can think of).. I think the only really data heavy apps will be obvious things like streaming, and street view etc..
TBH you are more likely to brain your phone battery that use up your bandwitch I think
I believe Vodafone are quite nice about the 500MB limit, I remember reading of someone using 2GB in a month and they sent him a letter just saying watch your usage, nothing came of it, it's only a problem if you break it every month.
dogsbody said:
Just do the maths (I'm assuming bytes not bits) 500MB per month equals 0.7MB per hour which is more than a last.fm song but I'm guessing your not going to be using it ALL the time Last.fm and Spotify will be the main eaters of Bandwidth. Browsing, e-mail and Web won't use much Bandwidth at all.
Yes, there is an app for it but obviously it is not a supported app by the BBC
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Try beebplayer, available in the Market, works like iPlayer and has the capability to watch live BBC channels (don't forget 'you need a license').
I managed to watch the F1 last Sunday while out, the stream was obviously delayed a few minutes,but better than no alternative.
Wow I thought Canada was bad 500MB = "unlimited", here in Canada we get 6GB

[Q] Cheapest Decent No Contract, Voice/Text Plan

Looking for a no contract plan with decent amount of minutes (preferably at least 200/250 per month) and unlimited texting. Data doesn't really matter to me that much as I'm almost always near Wifi.
Any suggestions?
I'm currently eyeing the T-Mobile $30 no contract plan that includes 100 min., unlim. texting, and unlim. data (4G speeds up to 5 GB) but the minutes seem like they won't be enough and the next level of plans is the $50 unlimited everything.
Is there anything comparable to this from services like Straight Talk, Simple Mobile, and such that's easy on the wallet? (Broke college student)
I also need it to use swappable SIM cards (GSM) similar to the prepaid T-Mobile plan described above, unlike Metro PCS, Boost, and such because I like to fiddle with various phones (the XDA community knows a little about this addiction
I would appreciate any suggestions.
Note: I'm located in Southern California (LA area) if it matters.
Virgin Mobile for $35, you get 300 minutes and unlimited web, data messaging, and email.
EDIT: Oops NVM, you wanted swapable SIMS, in that case, there is Red Pocket Mobile. You can bring your own GSM phone and it's $30 for 250 minutes voice and unlimited text, 10 MMS, and 10 MB data (better make sure you use WiFi). I think they use AT&Ts network.
man did not even kno about red pocket mobile
adelmundo said:
Virgin Mobile for $35, you get 300 minutes and unlimited web, data messaging, and email.
EDIT: Oops NVM, you wanted swapable SIMS, in that case, there is Red Pocket Mobile. You can bring your own GSM phone and it's $30 for 250 minutes voice and unlimited text, 10 MMS, and 10 MB data (better make sure you use WiFi). I think they use AT&Ts network.
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Thanks adelmundo, Red Pocket sounds like a good option, but I think people get the most bang for the buck with the $30 T-Mobile one for smartphone users. I really don't talk on the phone that much but like I said, 3.33 minutes per day seems too little. But I think they have like a fixed rate per minute if you go over the 100 minutes (I'm not sure what exactly that rate is) but even if you go over, it still be less than $45/$50, beating a lot of the 2-year contract plans out there.
PS: Awesome avatar!
my T mobile plan is unlimited everything and it is 75 per month. For me it works pretty well I do around 100-200 texts average,,, 3500 min + phone average and around 5-7 gig of internet......... the thing to consider with some of the off brand or smaller sub companies is if you travel at all they totally suck on coverage and speed. So, for me Tmobile is a good choice. But... if you just stay in one location basically, then the smaller companies would be good enough. It all depends on what you need.
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Thanks adelmundo, Red Pocket sounds like a good option, but I think people get the most bang for the buck with the $30 T-Mobile one for smartphone users. I really don't talk on the phone that much but like I said, 3.33 minutes per day seems too little. But I think they have like a fixed rate per minute if you go over the 100 minutes (I'm not sure what exactly that rate is) but even if you go over, it still be less than $45/$50, beating a lot of the 2-year contract plans out there.
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It's $0.10 a minute if you go over.
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Free 3G (UK only)

Hello, Im not sure which section to put this under but I guess this fits.
I dont know if you have heard but this company offers free 3G internet access in exchange for watching adverts on their website. 2.5 mins of adverts gives you around 500mb and its cumulative so you can stack it up and use it whenever you want, It runs on the 3 network which is widely accepted as having the best 3G coverage of the UK.
May be of use to TF300G users or those with a dongle or a spare phone for tethering.
It has been featured in Gizmodo and BBC news so can pretty safely assume this is legit.
Hope this helps someone.
Samba Free 3G
Gizmodo Article
BBC Article
These companies will sell your name/address and email to anyone - Its not worth the spam
The firm says that in return for watching two-and-a-half minutes of video campaigns a day they can build enough credit to download 517 megabytes of data through Three's network each month.
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It's not 2.5 minutes = 500MB (200MB per Minute) it's 2.5 minutes*29[days] = 517 MB or 7.13MB per Minute of ads. You would be spending the same amount of time watching ads as being on the web.

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