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There is absolutely no way I can get a SIM card with data and I need to have my 300$ flashlight go past the Android activation screens.
What are my options? I'm growing desperate here!
(P.S: What the f*** Google?)
Anyone? I really need help
you should just be able to click skip.... been a while since i set up rogers firmware.... try the home key?
shael said:
you should just be able to click skip.... been a while since i set up rogers firmware.... try the home key?
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It's a T-Mobile myTouch 3G, not a Rogers HTC Magic.
I tried the four courners press, searching for a skip button, EVERYTHING! Nothing can be done and the "data day pass" from Rogers is a bundle of bugs that needs to be activated via a WAP browser, but not from my Treo, apparently.
What a clusterf***.
Sorry man,but if the four corners does not work,u can try rooting via the sdk cause i camt geta data sim.
achillies400 said:
Sorry man,but if the four corners does not work,u can try rooting via the sdk cause i camt geta data sim.
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Yeah. I've been looking at the documentation for hours, but it's so fragmented it's nearly impossible to get anything done in a night. Besides, I've got one of those "Perfect SPLs".
I will pay Rogers a visit tomorrow and from there I'll just borrow one of theirs. Hopefully I've got the right APN settings
For tonight, I've had enough of this ridiculous waste of time. I'm out.
Well My friend bought a My Touch and it had another email registered with it so he wanted if off, Before all of this I asked if he had data he said yea.. So I hard Reset and now The data (which it turns out to be not in his plan after all. HE assumed cause he had access you youtube (really)) So this is the Dilemma...
The Data Cost 30 plus Does Not want it.
On a flex plan.
I have WiFi.
I have ADB Shell but The Device is not found
I am trying to provision/activate (the Google activate screen is not connecting) Due to no Data.
IS there a way around this.. I found a possible way to do this over wifi but can't connect to adb.. any ideas.
So I got it done, I refused to have this post unanswered...lol
So here is the run down.
I didn't want to have to pay but It was the last resort.. Cant ADB or anything to reset and no keyboard to add commands.
Since its flex pay, you have to pay in advance so I called and payed by E-Check.
It cost me 60 Dollars 30x2 (Two Months are mandatory)
Did The activation... waited 3 hours...
Called and told them The Internet did not work and that I needed it for a special reason (GPS) and it did not work..
Then I asked for a refund. and boom in a few days I will get my money back..
only work round that works...lol
-Geremy.
or you could have just used a friend's sim (with data plan) activated it, pop in your google information, swap sim cards. thats what I did =|
Lol this is my friend with T-Mobile...lol we all have sprint..lol I (we) didn't have anyone else who could lend a sim and needed the phone ASAP
Let me get this straight...
if I get a mytouch for my son (no data on his line) and I use my sim card when it arrives (i do have a data plan)... I can setup the phone with his google info and then swap sim cards have he will have a fully functional phone (minus internet and GPS) right?
Also, do MMS messages still come in fine?
izzzy12k said:
Let me get this straight...
if I get a mytouch for my son (no data on his line) and I use my sim card when it arrives (i do have a data plan)... I can setup the phone with his google info and then swap sim cards have he will have a fully functional phone (minus internet and GPS) right?
Also, do MMS messages still come in fine?
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Yep, you can. I don't know how Tmo works or the US carriers there, but just in case, I would disable background data usage and even change the apn. For example, if it's internet.com , I would change it to internet.comm. That way, internet access is completely blocked off unless using wifi.
I think MMS messages should come in fine. Correct me if I'm wrong!
Anyone know if Tmo will sell you the phone without a data plan?
Tmo will not sell without data plan. But I don't understand, I have a G1 and did the adb workaround to activate via Wifi, this does not work for MT3G at all?
if I remember right, you can click on skip...
Then connect to your WiFi, and setup everything after that
Thats how I did mine
Markolise said:
if I remember right, you can click on skip...
Then connect to your WiFi, and setup everything after that
Thats how I did mine
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LOL for which rom? donut or cupcake?
and MMS messages DOES NOT work. along with text messages exceeding 160 characters. (you would have to send a longer message in parts) only way to fix this is if you get a custom rom (hero or cyanogen) and then configure it with the mms info (just like you would do a iphone or a unlocked phone) it does not work because the official android roms released from tmobile uses 3g to send mms + longer texts (this way its faster) and not the older temporary edge network.
and I use my mytouch with tmobile I do not have data plan(3g), but I changed the apn to data.voicestream.com or something like that. thats the url for the regular $9.99 data line (edge) I changed it to that because sometimes I get free weather+ free browsing for a week xD. and no tmo does not sell smartphones without a plan, get one from craigslist.
U can use your sim(data plan) for the initial activation and when the phone is fully set up, u can power down and switch sim cards then u will have to reenter the google password that u used to setup the phone, but that can be done over wifi......
T-Mobile DOES sell smartphones without a data plan attached. The catch is you have to pay the full handset price. Most of them run from $350 to $450 full price. The G1, Mytouch, and the cliq and cliqxt need data on the initial startup straight out of the box. The best workaround is borrow a sim with data, root, and pick a new rom.
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T-Mobile DOES sell smartphones without a data plan attached. The catch is you have to pay the full handset price. Most of them run from $350 to $450 full price. The G1, Mytouch, and the cliq and cliqxt need data on the initial startup straight out of the box. The best workaround is borrow a sim with data, root, and pick a new rom.
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Do you know this for certain? I went on T-mobile's website and tried to buy a HD2 off contract and it told me it required a data plan and would not let me purchase it without adding it to my cart.
You'll have to go to a direct dealer's location. Online runs defferently.
My wife fone does not subscribe to data plan. But sometimes, she got 3G/E signal display on the phone. Will Tmobile automatically add data plan to her phone? is she getting charged to browse the internet? Is there a way to disable this? Thanks.
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My wife fone does not subscribe to data plan. But sometimes, she got 3G/E signal display on the phone. Will Tmobile automatically add data plan to her phone? is she getting charged to browse the internet? Is there a way to disable this? Thanks.
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How did she get a plan without data? Its a requirement for the android devices.
I'm sure tmobile will automatically add it.
Yes they will charge. Either 30 bucks a month for per meg. I had someone that tried to do this with Verizon and he got a bill for 300 bucks.
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)
Those 3G/E are normal even if you dont have data plan
Disable with "APNdroid" from the market. After you disable 3G/Edge/Gprs data connection make sure you reboot so it actually disables it...you will no longer see 3G/E BTW Expect even better battery life after doing so.
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You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)
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I wouldn't touch sync its still very useful even if just using Wifi
Not sure what you will get charged but a data plan is NOT required on this phone. On other android devices it has been but for some reason this one can be used as a "dumb" phone. Store employees may tell you otherwise so they can get the commission.
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Not sure what you will get charged but a data plan is NOT required on this phone. On other android devices it has been but for some reason this one can be used as a "dumb" phone. Store employees may tell you otherwise so they can get the commission.
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I've seen people INSIST up and down that you can't run smartphones without a data plan or the carrier will add them. They told me the same thing about AT&T and guess what? My wife runs her iphone 2g without one (edge disabled) and nary a problem.
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I've seen people INSIST up and down that you can't run smartphones without a data plan or the carrier will add them. They told me the same thing about AT&T and guess what? My wife runs her iphone 2g without one (edge disabled) and nary a problem.
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I used my nexus and then my vibrant as prepaid with no problems...I went into the store and paid full price for vibrant and told them i had a tmobile prepaid sim card i was going to use...they dont care.
But now i have a $60 month plan so i can use my smart phone for what its intended for
yep, no problem with my even more + plan sans data. been using it that way since i got my g1, and they have not said anything.
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How did she get a plan without data? Its a requirement for the android devices.
I'm sure tmobile will automatically add it.
Yes they will charge. Either 30 bucks a month for per meg. I had someone that tried to do this with Verizon and he got a bill for 300 bucks.
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)
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thats not true. its not required to have a data plan with an android phone. I talked to a tmobile rep and he said if you buy the android from them by either upgrading or starting a service then you do. but if you bring a tmobile android to them to start up service you dont have to have a data plan. although its really pointless to have an android phone without a data plan.
thanks for the replies guys. I download APN Droid and that took care of the concern. Thanks.
nguyenmd said:
thanks for the replies guys. I download APN Droid and that took care of the concern. Thanks.
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you dont need to download any apps. just go to mobile network, select APN setting and change the epc.tmobile.com to some arbitrary characters like "24532lk34j23l45ju204213" and hit the "menu" button and save. then turn off background sync at all time (unless you turn on wifi for android market donwload apps and gmail or apps that requires internet) and then reboot the phone.
the phone will will still shows 3G/E but u wont be able to get on internet as the APN setting has changed. T-mobile wont charge you data plan for this even though they got the IMEI detected. Ciao!
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you dont need to download any apps. just go to mobile network, select APN setting and change the epc.tmobile.com to some arbitrary characters like "24532lk34j23l45ju204213" and hit the "menu" button and save. then turn off background sync at all time (unless you turn on wifi for android market donwload apps and gmail or apps that requires internet) and then reboot the phone.
the phone will will still shows 3G/E but u wont be able to get on internet as the APN setting has changed. T-mobile wont charge you data plan for this even though they got the IMEI detected. Ciao!
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Yea remove epc.tmobile.com and for some reason you want it back but you forgot what it was so you go searching online because your forgot to write it down...you get the point
You really think that's easier than just getting APNdroid click to disable, click to enable. And why would he want to and disable background sync im sure he will use wifi.
BTW when you use your "method" and still see 3G/E your phone might not be able to connect to tmobile but it is still searching for those signals ultimately wasting battery
I don't have a data plan and I haven't disabled the APN settings. Whenever I go onto the browser without WiFi it shows me a T-Mobile page that just says that I need a data plan use the internet. It has never charged me. But I do have an unlimited text message plan and I can send picture messages just fine. Just an FYI.
I have used several android phones with out a data plan. We have a family plan, and so all I needed to do was use the sim card for a line that did not have a plan. It actually works well, and were I not waiting for the ota for froyo, I would be tempted to drop my data plan and I use my phone extensively.
If I recall correctly, the only applications that I could not use when out and about were the browser based apps. Initially, the thought of not being able to user google maps would have been enough of a reason not to drop the data plan, but with my trip to canada, that was cured with a $20 download of Co pilot. I am generally using my phone where I have wifi access. Nonetheless, I still was able to get email updates with out a data plan.
In essence, with out a data plan you can still access email, messaging, and use many if not most of your downloaded applications. If you need constant access to FB, you tube, twitter and the likes, you will not easily be able to drop you data line.
Note that I was able to get my wife's phone upgraded to a my touch slide on t-mobile and was not required to add a data plan. I did, but it was weeks after I already had it up and running which was possible because it provided an option to configure wifi before having to have the google account configured (unlike the G1).
Just fyi those those interested.
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T-Mobile will NEVER add a data plan to your line, especially without your knowledge.
I've been using a smartphone with my plan without data for years now.
ok i have a simple question, has anyone been able to use their current phone sim card (Vibrant,G1) to work on the TAB to access 3G (i know it will not work for phone calls) or are you running the tab with a webconnect plan. some one advised to use the method below but i had no luck with tmobile, they kept insisting that i need a webconnect plan, currently i am running the tab via wifi. also a few people have gotten as far as the web.to.go site and no further using their existing phone sim.
There is a work around though... with voice enabled, you can call tmobile and ask for a tech support supervisor, open a trouble ticket and request an engineer to change your device ip range to that of a smartphone... then data and voice should work together. I had this problem on my aws version of the dell streak and it fixed it using unlimited voice and unlimited android data plans
or is this not yet possible? or can we only use the webconnect? i had asked the tmo rep if there was a way to add the webconnect to my current sim and they stated no, then after thinking about it, if it was possible would the webconnect even work on a standard phone (Vibrant,G1). this is really driving me up a wall.....
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at my local t-mobile store:
30-day return policy
Previous phone insurance carried over to tab
Even more plus unlimited plan was good to go on tab if you pay in full for the tab itself. That's what I did. Popped out my sim from my old G1 and popped it into the tab. No data. Only goes to the t-mobile site on 2g/3g. I'm heading back there tonight after work to find out what's going on with it.
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So I will find out tonight and report back.
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So I will find out tonight and report back.
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thank you...
what happened? could you make it work? could you use the card from your G1 in your Tab?
I know a lot of folks plan on tethering their Xooms, but I thought I would actually try activating it since I'm not on contract and can cancel/suspend at any time.
I go into Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile networks > Activate device, I touch 'activate', it works for a moment, then errors out saying "Unable to activate mobile data service. To try activation again, touch Try Again."
I've seen other folks complain about this, but I didn't see a solution. Is it something obvious I'm missing, or do I actually have to call in to VZW and do it over the phone? If the latter, that's really a letdown, considering I can activate a new phone in seconds without talking to a CS rep. Just thought I'd ask to see if I'm missing something before I call.
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Did you activate it with Verizon? ie, do you have a Verizon account and have activated it either with BestBuy, Costco, Verizon store, or over the phone? You have to register the device with the company first. Phones are the same way on Verizon. AT&T and T-Mobile use Sim cards instead, and they are already 'active'.
If not, press the SKIP button on the bottom right to activate over WiFi. It's not worth the $20/mo for 1GB and $35 activation fee.
Yup, I was one of people that was having a lot of trouble with this. The device wont activate by it self,this is what you have to do you have to go to the verizon website and go to their phone activation page and enter your Xooms MEID HEX number (found on the plastic wrap which was covering the back, when you first unboxed it, so make sure you didnt throw away the plastic wraping). From there, you just have to follow the on screen instructions. Also the website asks for your SSN and your Drivers license number for credit approval (this took a whole day) after that they will contact you saying you are ready and that now you can go into settings and network and click activate device.
Also if you by any chance threw away the plastic wrapping, you can find the MEID HEX number on the Xooms box itself. Also to get to the verizon activation site faster al you have to do is google "verizon activation" ----> then click on the second link "Activate Your Verizon Phone | Verizon Wireless" then just enter your Xooms MEID HEX number.
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Yup, I was one of people that was having a lot of trouble with this. The device wont activate by it self,this is what you have to do you have to go to the verizon website and go to their phone activation page and enter your Xooms MEID HEX number (found on the plastic wrap which was covering the back, when you first unboxed it, so make sure you didnt throw away the plastic wraping). From there, you just have to follow the on screen instructions. Also the website asks for your SSN and your Drivers license number for credit approval (this took a whole day) after that they will contact you saying you are ready and that now you can go into settings and network and click activate device.
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THANK YOU, this is what I was looking for! I had tried logging into my VZW account to activate a new device, and all it would allow was for a new phone, not a new device/data package on our account. I couldn't even enter an MEID.
Found the link in question, I can enter the MEID and establish new service.
For anyone else wondering:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/activate-phone.shtml
I still find it a bit strange that the entire activation process can't be handled through the Xoom itself - seems like you should be able to enter your VZW account into (if you have one already), pick a plan, click through, etc. Activating a phone on an existing line of service is trivially easy via *228, you don't even need to enter an MEID. Not to mention, I do believe you can activate service directly on the iPad, can you not?
I received my Xoom yesterday and after it found my network and I entered the pass key it connected and worked without issue all night. Just got home from work today and it says "no internet connection." It keeps trying to obtain an IP address but just times out and tries again. Its been doing this for a half hour. I tried rebooting it but still the same. Any ideas?
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I still find it a bit strange that the entire activation process can't be handled through the Xoom itself - seems like you should be able to enter your VZW account into (if you have one already), pick a plan, click through, etc. Activating a phone on an existing line of service is trivially easy via *228, you don't even need to enter an MEID. Not to mention, I do believe you can activate service directly on the iPad, can you not?
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That was exactly my question as well, i think what happened was that Verizon setup according to their original plan, which was to have people activate in store so people would pay for the activation fee and have a credit approval done so that they would have no problems in the future. But due to the recent uproar from the android community about the "required 1 month plan" they decided to drop the plan at the last minute. So hence the reason why you have to go through all this trouble to activate 3g, because it was never set to be an out of the box activation or at least that is what I would conclude through my experience. iPad on the other hand (was an owner of the iPad) AT&T set it up according to apples request, which was to have the device out of the box ready for activation. They made it simple by allowing people to just create an account and enter their credit card information, and pick their plan. Reasons to why these companies have such a different approach to this situation.....I have no idea. But there probably is a reason, but iam just not aware of it.
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I received my Xoom yesterday and after it found my network and I entered the pass key it connected and worked without issue all night. Just got home from work today and it says "no internet connection." It keeps trying to obtain an IP address but just times out and tries again. Its been doing this for a half hour. I tried rebooting it but still the same. Any ideas?
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1.) I'm in no way calling you stupid, but have you made sure that airplane mode isnt on?
2.) Since you said you tried a restart and that seemed to not work, try restarting your wireless router.
3.) If that doesnt work, just try and disconnect and reconnect to the network.
If none of these work then you might have to call motorola.
I did not realize I would have to pay the activation fee everytime I wanted to have a data plan. That's very frustrating considering it's the same cost as a months data for 3GB. I wanted to turn it off an on as I needed (on a month-to-month basis) but I will probably just leave it off now...kinda makes me want to sell my 3G model and get a wifi only...unless I'm understanding this wrong?
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I did not realize I would have to pay the activation fee everytime I wanted to have a data plan. That's very frustrating considering it's the same cost as a months data for 3GB. I wanted to turn it off an on as I needed (on a month-to-month basis) but I will probably just leave it off now...kinda makes me want to sell my 3G model and get a wifi only...unless I'm understanding this wrong?
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I read somewhere that you can suspend your account instead of cancelling which will avoid this but I am not sure if this works since I have never had Verizon.
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I read somewhere that you can suspend your account instead of cancelling which will avoid this but I am not sure if this works since I have never had Verizon.
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I looked into that, but it looks like you can only do it for a couple of months, and also only once a year.
Seriously, that sucks. Why charge an activation fee for something that can be done completely automated online? Not like there's some dude sitting there setting all these up manually...just a way to make quick and easy money on VZW's part.
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I looked into that, but it looks like you can only do it for a couple of months, and also only once a year.
Seriously, that sucks. Why charge an activation fee for something that can be done completely automated online? Not like there's some dude sitting there setting all these up manually...just a way to make quick and easy money on VZW's part.
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I wish they had rollover data like AT&T rollover minutes. That would make it more appealing to keep the month to month service. Verizon is just way expensive.
You can indeed suspend your account here : http://support.vzw.com/clc/plan/
I have not been able to activate my device by the previous link. It gives me a number to call. Anyone else seeing this?
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bmbriefs said:
You can indeed suspend your account here : http://support.vzw.com/clc/plan/
I have not been able to activate my device by the previous link. It gives me a number to call. Anyone else seeing this?
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Yes, I know you can, but I have read that you can only do it once per year...that's the issue.
3G overseas
I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to activate the 3G overseas. I bought my Xoom a week ago at BestBuy, but I live in Bolivia, so came back to my country and now I'm trying to find out if there is a way I can activate the 3G service here. Anyone? Thanks!
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I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to activate the 3G overseas. I bought my Xoom a week ago at BestBuy, but I live in Bolivia, so came back to my country and now I'm trying to find out if there is a way I can activate the 3G service here. Anyone? Thanks!
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You need to find a carrier that uses CDMA and ask them if they can activate it. There is no other option really. My first guess would be that there are no carriers like that.
-Bauxite
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sunnyd119 said:
Also if you by any chance threw away the plastic wrapping, you can find the MEID HEX number on the Xooms box itself. Also to get to the verizon activation site faster al you have to do is google "verizon activation" ----> then click on the second link "Activate Your Verizon Phone | Verizon Wireless" then just enter your Xooms MEID HEX number.
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You can find the MEID number by going to settings-->about tablet-->status. It will open a new scrollable window with all sorts of info.
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You need to find a carrier that uses CDMA and ask them if they can activate it. There is no other option really. My first guess would be that there are no carriers like that.
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I think that I have same issue. I bought my XOOM in bestbuy ( US ) and brought it to Europe. Here I have O2 SIM card with 3G Data program. I am trying to use it with XOOM but no success so far.
Bauxite - are you trying to say that 3G module inside of XOOM is different for US as is requred in EU? Are there some different standards of 3G? I am worried that I could save couple of hundreds $ if I bought only WIFI version
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I think that I have same issue. I bought my XOOM in bestbuy ( US ) and brought it to Europe. Here I have O2 SIM card with 3G Data program. I am trying to use it with XOOM but no success so far.
Bauxite - are you trying to say that 3G module inside of XOOM is different for US as is requred in EU? Are there some different standards of 3G? I am worried that I could save couple of hundreds $ if I bought only WIFI version
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Why didn't you research what you were buying before spending more than $800? The Xoom you bought is a CDMA device and will not work on GSM networks.