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Had accident, smashed speaker, need new one

Hi all,
I had an accident and fell flat down to the ground with my TyTN in the belt pocket, exactly between my hip bone and the ground.
Now I have some more cosmetic plastic issues, but this would be acceptable. The bad thing is the Mail button is like a "sensor key" now, but works. The really bad thing is, the plastic speaker item inside (connected to the toppoly board, the speaker where the sound during calls comes out) is completely smashed and there's no more sound.
Since the rest is perfectly well, no screen damage (and no wrong alignments!!!) I would like to keep this phone but need a new speaker.
Could you guys help me to find such a speaker? The only part number on it is
501E6234A . It is a white plastic part, two gold connectors on the board side, a metal cover (now smashed) and a membrane on between the cover. You can see it on the attached pic, it's the white plastic rectangle in the middle.
Any help would be very much appreciated!
Thanks in advance and greetings from Munich,
Torben

Hi Torben...
Did you ever find a replacement speaker? I have the same problem as you and need one
Thanks

Hey Fallingonion,
I am sorry, but I don't have any good news... I was in contact with a German company that usually repairs all kind of mobile phones for sales companies. They told me since the device is still too new they haven't received any replacement parts yet. The only way to have it repaired would be sending it in to HTC.
I did that in December and am still waiting for it to come back - and what it will cost.
How did you break your phone?
Torben

I've seen a few parted out Hermes on ebay - you might try that.

Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben

kic said:
Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben
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I've done some digging around, and may have found a suitable alternative It looks like the Motorola L6 / L7 might use the same part...
I figured the speaker would not be unique to the TyTN - some other phone or PDA must use the same one - so I went looking for disassembly instructions for other phones in the hope that they might show the same speaker.
If you check Step 9 in this pdf you can see what looks like the same earpiece speaker (even though it looks like they may have unfortunately damaged it during removal - you can see the metal face plate is still attached to the front of the phone.) What do you think?
I've ordered one to see if it fits - I'll let you know what I find
I didn't actually break mine - I bought one from eBay, only to find that the earpiece distorted if you turned the volume up So I took it apart and found that the metal shield on the front of the speaker was dented slightly - I guess enough for the speaker membrane to hit it.
If the Motorola speaker works, maybe you can get your phone back from HTC before they charge you a fortune?

Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben

kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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I'll let you know as soon as I get it - hopefully it will be soon

kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike

mikechannon said:
Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike
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That's what I'm hoping, Mike
The speaker in your photos looks exactly like the one in the TyTN - are they of the TyTN earpiece or the Motorola one?
EDIT by Mike - The pictures above are of the TYTN fron speaker/earpiece. And we now know the Motorola L6/L7 does work as a replacement.

I know that it is a complete offtopic ... but this is the reason why I use the aluminium case for my Vario II it just saves lifes ..

Just as an update - the replacement Motorola speaker that I was sent works fine
It was not a perfect match for the old one - it was necessary to slightly bend the contacts outwards to make sure that they made proper contact with the pads on the circuit board - but other than that replacement was simple. Sound quality of the new speaker is fine, and seems a bit louder than the original, although I could be imagining that
In case anyone else has the same problem, the only place in the UK that I could find advertising the necessary part was Phatphones (see "Speaker/Earpiece for Motorola L6/L7" on this page.) The part was quite expensive compared to other replacement speakers, but as I said it was the only one available.
Cheers all -

When your speaker out of order, did you try to using the orignal headset? I have the same accident as you did. But ,There is no sound at all.I try to using the orignal headset, but still don't work. I am not sure , if it is the speaker problem or the sound IC problem. Now. I can only using the Bluetooth headset.

So, I transplanted the ear piece speaker from my Diamond2 and.......

Now I have louder and much less tinny sound!!!!
It fitted quite easily as the over all dimensions are similar and the solder pads are in the same spot. Any one with decent soldering skills could do it.
Only issue is it is a little bit thicker, so the case doesn't fit perfectly. I'm going to attack it with a dremel tonight to try and make it fit better.......
EDIT: I didn't end up using the dremel, but just reassembled it more carefully and put all the screws in. Now the case fits together almost perfectly. It bulges out fractions of a millimeter at the top but you would NEVER know unless you knew.... (if you know what I mean )

WHUUUT!! AWESOME! oh wait..
Pic or it didnt happend

dk2000zx said:
WHUUUT!! AWESOME! oh wait..
Pic or it didnt happend
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Yeh, pictures would be awesome.

dk2000zx said:
WHUUUT!! AWESOME! oh wait..
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truer words have never been spoken...
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I don't understand... why would he even bother making this up?? It's not like all the posts that you get around "We've delayed 2.1 until 2099" or "I've just updated to 2.1 and it's crap".. etc etc.. some people will think.. oh nice.. I'll try that.. others will think.. It aint worth chucking my warranty down the pan for..

HYPER-X10 said:
Now I have louder and much less tinny sound!!!!
It fitted quite easily as the over all dimensions are similar and the solder pads are in the same spot. Any one with decent soldering skills could do it.
Only issue is it is a little bit thicker, so the case doesn't fit perfectly. I'm going to attack it with a dremel tonight to try and make it fit better.......
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no pics yet...??!

OK, here it is.
If you look at this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668132
You can see the stock speaker is different (has 3 holes in it)
Thanks to McKebapp for the disassembly guide.
EDIT: I just thought I'd note that the reason I decided to do this is that my speaker wasn't working at all any more. It got full of tiny steel filings when I was making some benches for my workshop. Seings I bought it from the UK, I figured warranty would be too difficult to deal with. I was using speaker phone every time I made a call (don't you hate people who do that?) so I really had nothing to lose.
I'm really glad now though as it has a noticeably better sound. Not just louder but deeper sounding, and doesn't distort like it used to at full volume.
If any one is interested, the offending benches can be seen in this vid (black benches in front of machines):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vYgHekQzvk
Vid taken with X10 of course

HYPER-X10 said:
OK, here it is.
If you look at this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668132
You can see the stock speaker is different (has 3 holes in it)
Thanks to McKebapp for the disassembly guide.
EDIT: I just thought I'd note that the reason I decided to do this is that my speaker wasn't working at all any more. It got full of tiny steel filings when I was making some benches for my workshop. Seings I bought it from the UK, I figured warranty would be too difficult to deal with. I was using speaker phone every time I made a call (don't you hate people who do that?) so I really had nothing to lose.
I'm really glad now though as it has a noticeably better sound. Not just louder but deeper sounding, and doesn't distort like it used to at full volume.
If any one is interested, the offending benches can be seen in this vid (black benches in front of machines):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vYgHekQzvk
Vid taken with X10 of course
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Respect dude! If the silvia in the vid is yours.. dual turbo.. hoot!!
Edit: skyline**
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nice craftsmanship and awesome shop.
Thanks for sharing.

Thanks guys.
GTR isn't mine but the NSX is

HYPER-X10 said:
Now I have louder and much less tinny sound!!!!
It fitted quite easily as the over all dimensions are similar and the solder pads are in the same spot. Any one with decent soldering skills could do it.
Only issue is it is a little bit thicker, so the case doesn't fit perfectly. I'm going to attack it with a dremel tonight to try and make it fit better.......
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That's what she said
Also, good work *thumbs up*

HYPER-X10 said:
Thanks guys.
GTR isn't mine but the NSX is
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great job and great workshop.
I prefer NSX over skyline myself

HYPER-X10 said:
OK, here it is.
If you look at this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668132
You can see the stock speaker is different (has 3 holes in it)
Thanks to McKebapp for the disassembly guide.
EDIT: I just thought I'd note that the reason I decided to do this is that my speaker wasn't working at all any more. It got full of tiny steel filings when I was making some benches for my workshop. Seings I bought it from the UK, I figured warranty would be too difficult to deal with. I was using speaker phone every time I made a call (don't you hate people who do that?) so I really had nothing to lose.
I'm really glad now though as it has a noticeably better sound. Not just louder but deeper sounding, and doesn't distort like it used to at full volume.
If any one is interested, the offending benches can be seen in this vid (black benches in front of machines):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vYgHekQzvk
Vid taken with X10 of course
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wow thats a nice shop, that skyline has a serious setup. im an r34 fan though, cant wait for them to finally be legal in canada

Nice work dude, good to know there is a quality upgraded replacement in the event mine breaks.

You're an inspiration, mate. Unhappy with the speakerphone on my old Diamond - and now I'm thinking about trying some surgery myself.

wicked might do that myself and you're from vic *me waves*
Do you know if you can get a speaker off ebay ?

TP2/EVO speaker swap

I replaced the loud speaker on my evo with an oem i ordered online. It was a very easy fix and everything is good now. As I was putting in the new speaker I started to think of how good my TP2 sounded when I used the loud speaker. It just had a nice crisp sound that I havent been able to get out of my Evo. I searched and found a TP2 replacement and from what I can see, it looks just like it! I am about to order one to try it just wanted to get some feedback on this before i waste money. Why is the sound on tp2 better? Thanks.
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
via EVO.

Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.

mobius999 said:
Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.
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You are probably right. I gave mine away also and havent looked at one in a while. Thanks.
via EVO.

Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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Blackcircle said:
...http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
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It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?

bill875 said:
It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?
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I must have missed that. I was only using the site to show the photo. I will find it somewhere else.
via EVO.

cor4twenty said:
Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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If thats the case i guess that kills the idea then.
via EVO.

They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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iitreatedii said:
They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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So I guess mobius999 was right then. It is the back cover that makes all the difference.
via EVO.

Yuppers...different cases produce different soubds
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The sound doesn't look like it travels directly out of the speaker from what I saw when I took my 0003 apart, that plastic gasket makes me thing an attempt to "BOSE" it up...

Touch Pro 2 | TP2 | Rhodium | Speaker
cor4twenty said:
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I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.

From what I remember the TP2 had two speakers. Not for stereo but for different ranges...one was lows and the other was highs. You could cover up each speaker while music was playing and hear the difference as you moved your finger from speaker to speaker.

dafunk60 said:
I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.
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This is exactly what I gathered after reading some of peoples input including yours. Even if the speakers are the same, I don't think it will make a difference. The back cover and housing are the key I think. Im going to play around with it this weekend see what I can come up with.
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HTC already releasing sub par microphones

With the recent news about Nokia winning the injuction over the HDR microphones weeks ago I would like to tell you guys that HTC is now distributing it's latest HTC One with a sub par microphone.
A friend of mine got an htc one with a serial number HT354*** and just last week we video recorded a music festival. After the festival we checked our recorded videos as we plan to burn it on a CD and we we're shocked to how distorted his HTC One has recorded the video while mine was perfectly clear! We didn't actually found out the issue when we bought it since when we tested it, it recorded perfectly fine on low noise environment. So the issue about the HDR mic instantly came to my mind.
So any new users here already tested the functionality of their microphones? His HTC One was more perfect than mine though like his LCD screen was way brighter than mine, the white plastic on the sides were not that yellowish anymore and has better image results on the camera(Can't really tell as I'm using a custom kernel while he's using stock).
Although in contrast to that distorted noise he got his unit with the different microphone seems alot more sensitive than mine. He showed me a video recording in a park and I can hear birds chirping in the video unlike mine where I couldn't even barely hear my television set on normal volume when recording videos.

Or your friend might have defective mics

unlikely

Well if it is defective it wouldn't have been clear on low noise environments. Also called him just an hour ago and it's still pretty clear.
Well on a second thought... the back microphone could be defective so I'll probably wait for him to replace his unit. But still posted a thread here so I could at least get some additional info if others are encountering this also.
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Mine's a HT352 and I think I still have the good mics. Haven't been in a particularly noisy place as of yet to try, but there aren't any concerts happening anytime soon ):

I actually have noticed different plastic material for 35 units, whiter but less fancy feel also some of the recent units have different volume button coating (less glossy)
as for the mics, it's hard for you to tell without more tests, keep in mind both the bottom and back microphone holes should be fully uncovered during recording in order to get the full HDR quality (i did tests covering either one of them and the quality significantly reduced)
I doubt the camera is different, as for the screen as long as both are C2_2 yours that's within normal variance

I don't think you are right. Not yet.

i have serial FA35A.... , why yours is HT, can anyone explain the origin of the serial and how to identify if its from a new or old batch? video recording sound seems find, but i havent recorded it in loud condition yet, i have a concert in a few days, will test it soon

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i have serial FA35A.... , why yours is HT, can anyone explain the origin of the serial and how to identify if its from a new or old batch? video recording sound seems find, but i havent recorded it in loud condition yet, i have a concert in a few days, will test it soon
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manufactured date: 10 - May - 2013

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manufactured date: 10 - May - 2013
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Thanks!
[Edit] acutally i misread your post......

I sent them a ticket about a week ago regarding the STMicroelectronics microphones stock and they told me that HTC does not consider the STM microphones stock to be a problem and there is no confirmation if the stock will finish or when and I'd better stay tuned for news on htc.com

dkreventon said:
I sent them a ticket about a week ago regarding the STMicroelectronics microphones stock and they told me that HTC does not consider the STM microphones stock to be a problem and there is no confirmation if the stock will finish or when and I'd better stay tuned for news on htc.com
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Thanks! Then he's better returning the handset for warranty then as we are aware and sure that when we were recording it we aren't covering any mic holes.

I follow a lot of smartphone news websites and I am sure that once HTC transitions to another microphone design there will be a report somewhere.
The HDR microphone is a huge selling point for me so I am doing a lot of research about it and the stock.
I currently have the Nexus 4 which btw has a terrible microphone in video recording. It's a software issue waiting to be fixed.
I want to see what will android 4.3 bring to the table next month and then sell my phone and buy the htc one.

mrhahn98 said:
i have serial FA35A.... , why yours is HT, can anyone explain the origin of the serial and how to identify if its from a new or old batch? video recording sound seems find, but i havent recorded it in loud condition yet, i have a concert in a few days, will test it soon
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Hi, i bought the phone yesterday with the same serial number FA35.... do you have any build issues? like, not major, hairline gap on top and bottom between the speaker grills and the plastic line? I observe the gaps, I hoped for a HT series phones, but got FA....... it kind of eats my brain.

FA35 is an entire month, it probably represents nearly a million phones.

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FA35 is an entire month, it probably represents nearly a million phones.
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Yeah i exactly dont remember the alphabet that follows, i guess its in the last week of the 5th month, so maybe S or T or W

dkreventon said:
I follow a lot of smartphone news websites and I am sure that once HTC transitions to another microphone design there will be a report somewhere.
The HDR microphone is a huge selling point for me so I am doing a lot of research about it and the stock.
I currently have the Nexus 4 which btw has a terrible microphone in video recording. It's a software issue waiting to be fixed.
I want to see what will android 4.3 bring to the table next month and then sell my phone and buy the htc one.
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do you know if the transition hasn't been done yet?

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do you know if the transition hasn't been done yet?
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I bought mine on 22 may with the serial number HT358W so it is basically made in mid may and it still has the awesome microphone.
I am sure that there will be a report when they will change the micrphone.
BTW, using the 1600 iso setting will solve the low fps of the low light video recording.

LOL, the injunction wasn't even in the states... that was in the Netherlands. From what I heard they are allowed to use up existing stock.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-i...ct-current-one-phones-new-mic-design-progress

designgears said:
LOL, the injunction wasn't even in the states... that was in the Netherlands. From what I heard they are allowed to use up existing stock.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-i...ct-current-one-phones-new-mic-design-progress
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Point is we don't know when that stock finishes

Why does the N20U only have 2 Microphones?

All flagships have 3 microphones .... top, bottom and camera bump.
The microphone on the camera bump is missing on the Note 20 Ultra? Why? .. only have 2 microhones.
Even the Note 20 has 3 microphones.

Ultra has three as well..

hmm .. thanks .. that's weird .. on the side of the bump? ... I looked in the shop and didn't see the pin-hole on the side .. let me look again for photos.

can you see it?
https://cdn57.androidauthority.net/...axy-Note-20-Ultra-camera-profile-1340x754.jpg

linux2525 said:
can you see it?
https://cdn57.androidauthority.net/...axy-Note-20-Ultra-camera-profile-1340x754.jpg
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Sure can. See that little gap at the bottom right side? That's your mic.

hmm .. yea ... maybe .. I dont feel quite convinced as it is not easy to see in other photos ... but trying to get a better video/image

https://www.soyacincau.com/wp-conte...-galaxy-note-20-ultra-first-impression-10.jpg

Yes ... it is there .. 8.01 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFOt562g1s8

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Like the other members have pointed out, the Note20 ultra does indeed have 3 microphones. Here are a couple of pics as a proof!

Nice Thanks

I don't think the engineers at Samsung thought this through. The placement of the mic will get covered by cases. So makes the mic useless.

xfaega said:
I don't think the engineers at Samsung thought this through. The placement of the mic will get covered by cases. So makes the mic useless.
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Oh yes .. that's a really good point!

xfaega said:
I don't think the engineers at Samsung thought this through. The placement of the mic will get covered by cases. So makes the mic useless.
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I think they anticipate users using the superior live bud mics. There's a huge sound difference using them.

Gareee said:
I think they anticipate users using the superior live bud mics. There's a huge sound difference using them.
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how does the mic on the buds+ vs buds live compare?

linux2525 said:
how does the mic on the buds+ vs buds live compare?
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I can't speak of the buds+, but yt reviews using the buds live are all glowingly positive.
We just got ours today, so we are still learning how to use them properly.
I've never owned noise canceling buds before these. But both my wife and I are delighted about them.

Here you can see it bettery on my Mystic White N20U

Oh wow that's neat! I didn't notice that on my N20U. Although yeah thats concerning to use with a case. I usually don't use cases but might on this phone at least when I take it out of the house.

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I've never owned noise canceling buds before these. But both my wife and I are delighted about them.
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but how is the call quality? both for receiving calls and the mic for transmitting to the other person?

linux2525 said:
but how is the call quality? both for receiving calls and the mic for transmitting to the other person?
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Haven't taken or called yet with them in. But since the phones camera uses the live buds for superior sound pickup, I would think sound from them writings be the optimum option.
I'll comment again once I use them for a call or two.