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Hi there, I kinda need some help here My phone memory just gets filled up more and more with no real reason every day. I have installed only 5-6 very important programs on the internal memory, but it still is almost filled up, although I have no pictures, music or videos in the phone.
Is there any way I can find which files are taking the most space and remove them, if possible? Or which programs are installed on the internal memory and how much space do they take?
Unfortunately, I can't do this while the phone is connected with my pc - it has some strange problem with analyzing size of a folder with folders inside it. For example, the Windows folder is calculated 0 bytes, but if I open it, every folder inside of it would have some size (except if it has another list of folders inside itself) :|
I really hope you can help me
You are not the first to post on this. Have you tried searching the forums on here to find an answer to your problem?
In no particular order the reasons for your problem are:
-Open applications not being closed.
- Caches running in device memory rather than on the SD card
- Music, video, pictures taking up space if not installed to external memory card.
- All applications being installed to internal memory.
Use this tool...http://www.google.com/advanced_sear...xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=allsearch to search for solutions.
Start by looking for the hints and tips thread right here!!
WB
1st, thanks for posting But:
I close all my apps all the time with the Task Manager.
As I said, I have no songs, pictures or any other type of multimedia saved on the internal memory.
I've got only 6-7 most important apps installed on the internal memory (and after installing them the memory wasn't even half full).
And please explain to me how can I use the camera tool for searching for solutions
triteata said:
1st, thanks for posting But:
I close all my apps all the time with the Task Manager.
As I said, I have no songs, pictures or any other type of multimedia saved on the internal memory.
I've got only 6-7 most important apps installed on the internal memory (and after installing them the memory wasn't even half full).
And please explain to me how can I use the camera tool for searching for solutions
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What that important software is? Maybe one of them is storing it's temp files and cache files in phone memory and does not delete them when you close the app it self?
Triteata,
My apologies, wrong link. Never answer a post when you are tired . This is what I wanted to post: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Do take a look in the hints and tips thread which will tell you how to move your album and web browser caches to your SD card and help to shed some solutions on your problem.
WB
PS: Name the apps which are open please. These may be enough to kill your memory. The fact that they are "important" to you is irrelevant to how much memory they may be using up in cache use, etc.
Well:
Core Player
Duttys Task Manager
SPB Backup
Skype
Pocket RAR
Finger Keyboard
BsB Tweaks
Meon Game (downloaded via Marketplace :| )
Shazam
RegEditor
Total Commander
Although they're plenty, I doubt that any of them makes a serious Cache folder (except for Skype may be ).
Anyway, after deleting all the cache from albums, google maps and opera and moving it to the Card, I now have 60 mb of free space
Thanks for helping!
Actually, there is NO reason to install any of these programs in internal memory. It may help to uninstall and put them all on the SD Card.
Hi i have my HTC HD2, relativly new one, i have installed stuff ofcourse to it, and always picked memory card cause i know the internal memory aint so greate, anyway when i go into remove programs there are lots of stuff but are they the ones that are installed to internal and not external? i removed little that oly gave me like 600k more but that affect the internal.
And i know that you wondering whats the problem beside my memory is full,
the problem is i always like i said before pick to install to external cause of memory, how can then my internal be full?
like 3 of 30 stuff i could pick myself where to install.
So someone plz help me? i know i neeed to like reinstall the device and install everything again.
I have like skype, tomtom, hd2 tweak, games hdwall bu i iunistall case it didt work. etc.
sorry for my english
I think your main problem is HTCAlbum cache
go to application data-->htc-->htc album and check how much space occupies the cache folder
In some cases it's larger than 10 mb
So, if it is the problem, you can cancel the cache and then try this tip
Another possible problem could be the cache (or temp files) of other programs, such as opera, internet explorer, google maps and so on
One advice for saving more space in the internal memory:
if you don't use copilot and navipanel, you can remove the copilot folder from the folder "program files": it occupies almost 14 mb
regards
Ok i will try but it seems as the internal memry goes full everytim i insall stuff even i i pick memory card, i will soon reset it and do it over again and check + do the things you advice me to.
just questions about it
if i cancel the cache does it make album slower?
ty in advance
if i cancel the cache does it make album slower?
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maybe a little bit...but I don't notice this problem with the mod I adviced you.
...and for your problem...
Before you think to Hard-reset your device, You have to know that when you install a program, even if you install to the microsd, a piece of the install information goes on the internal memory anyway (and occupies some memory space, obviously)
regards
ok, here is what to do;
1. install total commander to phone memory (not sd card)
2. eject sd card
3. on total commander file>find files then find files greater than the default 64k or or 1mb if you want the search to be quicker
4. click on 'size' to sort files into descending order
5. delete or copy any unwanted files
in my case i had some videos that were already on my pc, so i deleted them.
Ok i will try i have movies and pic but are they by default placed on sd card? anyway i think mine are but they arenot taking upp space on the intern? like installed programs.
forgat to quote but i answerd you xboxdevil
qllkevuoi said:
maybe a little bit...but I don't notice this problem with the mod I adviced you.
...and for your problem...
Before you think to Hard-reset your device, You have to know that when you install a program, even if you install to the microsd, a piece of the install information goes on the internal memory anyway (and occupies some memory space, obviously)
regards
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Ok same as on computers, but that means they are limited stuff you can have on your phones and i mean i dont have so much, standard win 6.5 sense and changed icons, installs tweaks and some games like 10 :S thats bad, i want the at&t version wtf thanks anyway for the answers
toxicstone said:
Hi i have my HTC HD2, relativly new one, i have installed stuff ofcourse to it, and always picked memory card cause i know the internal memory aint so greate, anyway when i go into remove programs there are lots of stuff but are they the ones that are installed to internal and not external? i removed little that oly gave me like 600k more but that affect the internal.
And i know that you wondering whats the problem beside my memory is full,
the problem is i always like i said before pick to install to external cause of memory, how can then my internal be full?
like 3 of 30 stuff i could pick myself where to install.
So someone plz help me? i know i neeed to like reinstall the device and install everything again.
I have like skype, tomtom, hd2 tweak, games hdwall bu i iunistall case it
didt work. etc.
sorry for my english
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I have never been able to understand why people won't use internal storage!
I have 27 apps installed and this leaves me with 127Mb free which would allow a further minimum of 20 more that I could install assuming an average size.
Why would I want to install to mem card?
It's slower, causes difficulties of all sorts and the internal mem was designed to be used for your apps in the first place.
Although I understand what you are saying pa49 I personally install on my sd card so that
A) I can move from one to another phone if needed or
B) If I have to hard reset then I dont have to load the apps up again when I restore a backup
C) makes backing up and restoring the phone faster and smaller
D) I make a backup of my sd card so that if somthing goes wrong its all there.
I think its a personal preference. I dont fine that my phone is slower or faster one way or the other.
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Although I understand what you are saying pa49 I personally install on my sd card so that
A) I can move from one to another phone if needed or
B) If I have to hard reset then I dont have to load the apps up again when I restore a backup
C) makes backing up and restoring the phone faster and smaller
D) I make a backup of my sd card so that if somthing goes wrong its all there.
I think its a personal preference. I dont fine that my phone is slower or faster one way or the other.
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Yes, I know all these arguments.
But we don't (as a rule) use our PCs this way.
It would not be good practise to install all your PC apps on an external hard drive.
If you applied your four points you'd end up with a mess and I don't see our phones as any different.
We expect our phones to function robustly and then we go out of our way to destabalise the whole thing.
I just don't get it.
This thread
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google Mobile/thread?tid=1163588d699c01d4&hl=en
is just one example of what can happen and the problems were solved by installing on the phone mem!
"Sounds like for at least some folks, installing on phone memory successfully works around this. If you'd prefer to not use phone memory, I'd also try borrowing or buying another memory card as it is potentially due to a portion of your old memory card being corrupted." Quote from Google employee.
What should be most allarming, to those who install to mem card, is the statement, "it is potentially due to a portion of your old memory card being corrupted".
This is the very reason why I always install to phone mem, reinstall all apps after a ROM flash or hard reset and limit my mem cards to only storage of data.
It's not a personal preference.
It just makes sense.
I've had my HD2 for about a week now. I've installed maybe 3 or 4 apps directly to the device (not to SD Card). I'm now in the situation of not being able to d/l any videos etc. due to having insufficient memory! I can't believe it!!!
Device total storage stands at 200.40MB
Used storage= 189.02MB
Free storage= 11.38MB
However below this info my phone is showing ''Free program storage'' as being 178.38MB. While my SD card is showing Free Memory being at 1453.95MB.
Would the solution be to transfer everything to SD card and only install to the SD card in future?
Yep I would, saves the phones internal memory
I install any non-system apps to the card, anything that needs access to the system files goes on my phone
Found this article on a blog:
Just go on google and search "windows mobile marketplace:choose where to install"
Click the 3rd one down-DarkBlog
(Apologies for not placing a direct link, I'm a new member, so It won't allow me to put outside links right now, sorry for the inconvenience)
It might help you a little?
Gonna have a look at that, looks good
LINK:
http://blog.idlezone.org/post/2010/01/11/Windows-Mobile-MarketPlace-:-choose-where-to-install
GadgetTechPlus said:
Found this article on a blog:
Just go on google and search "windows mobile marketplace:choose where to install"
Click the 3rd one down-DarkBlog
(Apologies for not placing a direct link, I'm a new member, so It won't allow me to put outside links right now, sorry for the inconvenience)
It might help you a little?
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Thank you. That's really helpful.
These reports of low memory are really starting to bug me.
It would appear that there is something going on that is not fully understand because there is no way that you should run out of phone storage memory with only 4 apps installed!
A serious in depth investigation is needed to unearth the cause.
I have 27 apps installed and I have 152Mb of storage memory left.
Could you tell us what ROM you are running?
Did you go to the task manager and see what is running and try ending the tasks? If you don't kill programs in there they will eat up your system memory... Specially if you are downloading a bunch of porn... Opera is probably using up a bunch.
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Did you go to the task manager and see what is running and try ending the tasks? If you don't kill programs in there they will eat up your system memory... Specially if you are downloading a bunch of porn... Opera is probably using up a bunch.
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Thats not the memory the OP was talking about. Unless I've got it all wrong! Or you have!
I think you are referring to Program memory. The OP was talking about Storage memory and how something was using it up.
This is all very strange.
Things you should definitely look at
1. Where are your camera pictures and camcorder videos stored? ---> if you select device and not storage on the camera app or camcorder app settings, then u are my friend putting pictures and videos you've taken to the sdcard...
solutions: go to ur camera app settings and look at where u are storing the pictures...
or go to ur file explorer, go to ur device's memory and check if they are there...
if they are there, then copy and paste them to ur sd card...
2. set ur outlook, yahoo e-mail and stuff to be stored in sd card, not device's memory...
3. idk what else you have in there to have that very little memory left...
Oh I missed that... My phone has 686.12 Total Storage, 190.64 used, 495.48 free. I have installed all of the apps on the Storage card though. If his says that the total storage is 200 or whatever, that sounds like the problem... Should be like a gb of total device memory between storage and programs...
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phones 'device memory', but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638 for tips on freeing some space. The HTC Album cache is my biggest storage hog. Even then, like you, I have just a few programs installed to my internal store and hardly any memory left. The UK version has less storage than the USA HD2 which makes matters worse.
maybe for the euro hd2, cleartemp could help. It can help find those caches and delete them regularly.
I have the tmous version and flash all the time so I don't have that problem.
Also look for the youtube cache. I've heard it can get pretty big if you look at a lot of youtube vids.
edit: go find cleartemp. There are loads of stuff it can clear for you.
I found 10mb under thumbs.db alone.
Not to mention a few mb for google maps and for opera cache each.
you can also add custom folders to be cleaned as well. I haven't looked too much into it, but maybe I should.
Just remember that caches help your phone run faster, so don't erase them unless you need the memory.
This thread has good suggestions. But most are usual recommendations that will help but perhaps not resolve the issue completely (well a couple of posts do mention temp issues). I had a similar experience recently.
A couple of facts:
1. I install all my apps into the main memory. Never had issues. Opera, IE cache, temps all there by default.
2. I download and save on SD. Music, films, pictures, documents, Android are all there.
3. Still I have plenty of room for storage.
And then I suddenly had that warning!
The cause was temp made by the default ZIP utility that used up almost all my storage space. That utility works fine until I wanted to uncompress 160 mb zip from SD into another SD folder. It started uncompressing, used all storage temp space, gave me error, and closed. It didn't clean the temp though!
I cleaned a bit manually and then installed SK tools that cleaned my device properly and everything is fine now. It is very simple issue and similar to running out of disk space on a PC.
Bottom line: it is unlikely that usual apps use so much storage. I bet on downloads and big user files left in storage and finally huge temp files as leftovers of unsuccessful uncompressing for example.
Hello everyone,
Have anyone heard about some sort of filesystem extension to the Storage Card? I once read somewhere, that it could fool WiMo, extending the windows folder (maybe other folders too) into the storage card. I tried to google it, but couldn't find anything. Does anyone knows what this is? Or any other technique to extend the internal storage other than the well known tips and installing/moving the apps to storage card?
Thanks much,
Fernando
Work through Sticky threads 1 and 2 (Tipps and Tricks, Boost performance) here and You´ll find everything ...................
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Work through Sticky threads 1 and 2 (Tipps and Tricks, Boost performance) here and You´ll find everything ...................
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Hello Angelo, thanks for the quick reply!
Before someone yells at me that every noob should read the stickies and search before posting, let me explain that I'm actually looking for some light on this "filesystem extension" or something similar... I guess I should have written (already edited) and named the thread more carefully, since I'm not really running out of space, just looking for options on extending the internal storage...
As for the stickies, I already have them applied - tip 67 (Save Some Space in Phone Storage Memory), 97 (Save Camera Photos Direct to Storage Card) or latter on the thread (moving the bluetooth inbox, ringtones and opera cache to the SD card), I'm aware of them and already have them applied, but yet if we keep installing every nice piece of software we find interesting, eventually we are going to run out of internal storage, even with several GBs free on storage card, but I know that installing a bunch of stuff it's not the expected or usual behavior.
Thanks again for the prompt and polite reply.
You won't run out of internal storage, delete My Device/Application Data/HTC/HTC ALBUM contents and the files inside 'Cache' as well, you can hold up to 20 meg or more in there.
Another idea is to delete My Device/Windows/Rings and just use your custom ring tone, message tones, if you use a decent file manager i.e. Resco you can uncover the hidden tones and delete them also, saving you around 8 meg or so.
My Device/My Wallpapers will save you another ~4 or so.
After flashing an updated Energy ROM I usually have exactly 38 meg of used storage, and after a few days of cache it usually settles to around 50-55 meg, I clear the HTC Album cache from time to time and it always keeps it well under 60 mbs.
I prefer to keep things on the internal storage (I mean system files, caching etc.) as it just seems faster than keeping it on the SD card, and it will also save you a wee bit of battery life as it won't need to keep accessing the card.
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Hello Angelo, thanks for the quick reply!
Before someone yells at me that every noob should read the stickies and search before posting, let me explain that I'm actually looking for some light on this "filesystem extension" or something similar... I guess I should have written (already edited) and named the thread more carefully, since I'm not really running out of space, just looking for options on extending the internal storage...
As for the stickies, I already have them applied - tip 67 (Save Some Space in Phone Storage Memory), 97 (Save Camera Photos Direct to Storage Card) or latter on the thread (moving the bluetooth inbox, ringtones and opera cache to the SD card), I'm aware of them and already have them applied, but yet if we keep installing every nice piece of software we find interesting, eventually we are going to run out of internal storage, even with several GBs free on storage card, but I know that installing a bunch of stuff it's not the expected or usual behavior.
Thanks again for the prompt and polite reply.
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Well then, since You already tweaked all possible items unfortunately this will be the maximum You can get.
Since Nov. 2009 - when I received my HD2 - I carefully read every post concerning int. memory and now with approx. 50 apps installed (all to storage card) I can keep the internal mem filled at 70% (approx. 54MB free mem).
Never forget: emails, sms, mms, contacts etc. are stored internally: the more You keep, the more mem is eaten up.
Since I use only one ringtone and only two avatars (1 x male, 1 x female) for contacts, no animated wallpapers and one selfmade background I deleted all other ringtones, wallpapers and anims.
If Copilot is installed on Your device move it to sd card also (PocketMechanic worked best for me to do this), makes up for another 10 MB of free space.
Enjoy
Thank you both for the reply!
Well, right now I have about 63 megs of free space in the internal storage, but there are still some apps I haven't installed after I flashed this new ROM.
A month ago I was trying almost every app - freewares and sharewares - to sort out what I really need to buy and which free apps work for me, but before I could test half of the apps and games I downloaded, I ran out of space. It wasn't really a problem since I was planning to hard reset my HD2 and then keep only the nice ones, but I decided to search for a possible solution and then read somewhere about this "filesystem extension"... But seems that I misplaced the bookmark and never found anything else on this... I guess it was some kind of scam...
Once again, thank you for taking the time to read and reply!
A file system extension to move the operating systems to SD card would not be a good idea, the performance would be very slow as access speeds are not good.
As for the htc album cache eating alot of memory there is the possibility to use some of the phones RAM (as the HD2 has way more than you need) as a virtual storage card or RAMDISK. You can move the HTC album cache, opera cache and manilla/windows temp files here.
This has the advantage of removing all these junk files everytime you reboot your phone and also making opera and the album run faster as writing cache files to RAM is much faster than writing to ROM
Hi guys, I did a bit of a search but I couldn't find any threads actually discussing the merits of this phone, hence my creation of this thread.
So first off, is this phone even worth using, or should I just give up on it and buy a better one? The internal hardware isn't that great; the only reason I got it is it was cheap, and it's my first smartphone haha. I'm trying to play Ingress on it, but they don't scale their UI at all so it's kind of hard to play on the small screen, and it can be kind of slow as well.
Secondly, what OS would you recommend using? The problem with the default Android OS is the memory partitioning: there's 1GB of memory on the phone, but it's partitioned into System Memory (150MB) and the rest is internal memory. All the preloaded apps are on System Memory, so when they update they fill up the System Memory and I have to uninstall the updates. Also some of the apps I download get installed to System Memory and I can't move them to internal memory, very frustrating.
Looking forward to whatever advice you guys can give me! Cheers.
Use stock OS with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250759, less lag than 4.0.4.
See also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326340
Skater901 said:
Hi guys, I did a bit of a search but I couldn't find any threads actually discussing the merits of this phone, hence my creation of this thread.
So first off, is this phone even worth using, or should I just give up on it and buy a better one? The internal hardware isn't that great; the only reason I got it is it was cheap, and it's my first smartphone haha. I'm trying to play Ingress on it, but they don't scale their UI at all so it's kind of hard to play on the small screen, and it can be kind of slow as well.
Secondly, what OS would you recommend using? The problem with the default Android OS is the memory partitioning: there's 1GB of memory on the phone, but it's partitioned into System Memory (150MB) and the rest is internal memory. All the preloaded apps are on System Memory, so when they update they fill up the System Memory and I have to uninstall the updates. Also some of the apps I download get installed to System Memory and I can't move them to internal memory, very frustrating.
Looking forward to whatever advice you guys can give me! Cheers.
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Try SDMERGE