What are your thoughts on this new htc device and the WP7 OS and how does it compare?
Added poll ^
Well, we don't really know, as either none of us, so very very few, have even tested WP7.
Well the HD7 reportedly has less ram than the DesireHD 512MB over 768MB. And Runs of of the same CPU family that the HD does.
So at this stage the DesireHD looks better than the HD7 spec wise but its early days yet.
not 100% sure about specs but HD7 will be available earlier though its announced 1 month later than DesireHD, that's if DesireHD ever make it out of the warehouse...
It seems that the HD7 has a QSD8250 processor (same as the Desire) with adreno 200 GPU.
PS: Sorry for my bad english
nope its an MSM8250 chipset :-D almost identical to the CPU in the Desire HD
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-hd7-is-a-hd2-lookalike-with-windows-phone-7-and-720p-video/
Apache14 said:
nope its an MSM8250 chipset :-D almost identical to the CPU in the Desire HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
actually alex is correct, it uses the old snapdragon found on the desire, nexus one, evo etc. It has the old adreno 200 gpu.
So because of that, and 200 MB less ram, the Desire HD still is HTC's best specced phone so far.
i will wait till january february to see if there will be dual core processors if not i will buy some good htc
A full list of the specs of the WP7 phones at the WP event
Notice they say the HTC parts are MSM chips (second gen snapdragons like in DesireHD) and the others LG ect are the old QSD chips (like the N1, Desire , EVO)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/
c4940 said:
i will wait till january february to see if there will be dual core processors if not i will buy some good htc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Motorola will out their Tegra 2 in Q1 2011, while LG MIGHT roll out by the end of this year.
Im gunna wait untill i se how multi core mobile CPU's preform (battery usage / speed improvement). As i suspect we will have to wait untill the apps and OS are properly optimised for two cores.
Apache14 said:
Im gunna wait untill i se how multi core mobile CPU's preform (battery usage / speed improvement). As i suspect we will have to wait untill the apps and OS are properly optimised for two cores.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dalvik and most native apps are multi-threaded by design.
True .... so we should see huge improvements :-D but the Desire HD will do me for 12 monthes :-D
Apache14 said:
A full list of the specs of the WP7 phones at the WP event
Notice they say the HTC parts are MSM chips (second gen snapdragons like in DesireHD) and the others LG ect are the old QSD chips (like the N1, Desire , EVO)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If Engadget is right on this, then Apache is right too.
The QSD8250 is the first gen chip used in the Nexus One, Desire etc.
The MSM8250 is the 2nd gen chip and has Adreno 205.
The difference between the MSM8250 (HD7 etc) and the MSM8255 (DHD) is that the MSM8250 is a "world phone" chipset whereas the 8255 is solely for GSM use.
It's very confusing - but assuming that Engadget is right, that means that the WP7 phones are as fast as the DHD (though not as much RAM) but are available to use all over the world.
Yes, MSM8250 is GSM/CDMA capable, whereas MSM8255 is GSM only.
No such difference between the two devices. The same 4.3 inch screen (almostly confirmed tft) But DHD is better than hd7 on cpu and gpu.DHD with 8255 cpu and hd7 with 8250cpu (which same as hd2) 756ram>512RAM So i prefer desire hd with android os
freelo123 said:
No such difference between the two devices. The same 4.3 inch screen (almostly confirmed tft) But DHD is better than hd7 on cpu and gpu.DHD with 8255 cpu and hd7 with 8250cpu (which same as hd2) 756ram>512RAM So i prefer desire hd with android os
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you even read my post? They are the same chips, just the HD7 chip has CDMA capability as well as GSM. Same CPU core, same GPU core. Same speed, same die size.
The only difference between the DHD and the HD7 are the extra 256MB of RAM! (and the OS and case etc.. and camera! (thanks wu5262!))
DHD seems to have more metal parts in its casing.
Either way I guess we'll be seeing a lot of ports between these devices
dazultra2000 said:
Did you even read my post? They are the same chips, just the HD7 chip has CDMA capability as well as GSM. Same CPU core, same GPU core. Same speed, same die size.
The only difference between the DHD and the HD7 are the extra 256MB of RAM! (and the OS and case etc)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The DHD has better camera too
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
wywywywy said:
DHD seems to have more metal parts in its casing.
Either way I guess we'll be seeing a lot of ports between these devices
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why on earth would you want to put WP7 on an Android device.
However, I hope someone here can bring WP7 to the HD2. Now that WOULD be amazing!
Related
HTC just announced the Desire Z version of their "Vision" handset that is identical to the G2. It runs a newer version of HTC Sense that's got a lot of nice new enhancements. I expect G2 owners will want to port this in a hurry.
Desire Z will be available in October in Europe and Asia only.
Check out this "Fast Boot" --- boots in like 4 seconds::: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERH9BoU64pw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXnCOhvoqgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FAIlKN2u5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwiNDsZNRag
Specifications (from here):
800 MHz Qualcomm Scorpion
Qualcomm MSM7230
2x faster than Snapdragon CPU
5x better than Snapdragon GPU
Android 2.2 w/ HTC Sense
3.7 inch display
800 x 480 resolution
SLCD technology
5 megapixel camera
LED flash
720p HD recording
HSPA+ integration
WiFi b/g/n
Size: 4.7 x 2.4 x 0.6 inches
Weight: 6.5 ounces
Battery: 1300 mAh Lion
Talk time: up to 6.5 hours
Standby time: up to 17.5 days
Pop-out QWERTY keyboard
Four rows
Programmable “quick access” keys
4GB of internal memory
Full aluminum body
HTC Fast Boot
Pre-installed 8GB microSD card
GPS with A-GPS
DLNA Streaming and Media Sharing
3.5 mm stereo audio jack
micro-USB (5-pin micro-USB 2.0)
Audio supported formats – Playback: .aac, .amr, .ogg, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media Audio 9)
Video supported formats – Playback: .3gp, .3g2, .mp4, .wmv (Windows Media Video 9)
Ambient light sensor
Proximity sensor
Digital compass
That fast boot is crazy. I'm loving the phone, definitely fast. However the phone looks VERY thick.
so its called "HTC fast boot". I wonder if that means the G2 won't have it. I'd be a lot more likely to turn my phone off and save battery if I knew I could turn it back on that quick
The Desire Z has 1.5GB of internal memory from what I've read at Engadget, not 4.
Infact, your source also says 1.5GB internal memory.
Where are they getting that the CPU is 2x faster than Snapdragon? For all we know it's the same CPU shrunk to 45nm, so it should be the same speed.
Its possible HTC said that at the event? I'm just speculating.. I would be happy if its 2x faster.. lol.
dualityim said:
Where are they getting that the CPU is 2x faster than Snapdragon? For all we know it's the same CPU shrunk to 45nm, so it should be the same speed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
a lot of the performance gain is from the Adreno 205 GPU as opposed to the older Adreno 200 GPUs on the Desire, HD2 and Evo. The Desire HD, however, also has the Adreno 205.
Superfrag said:
Its possible HTC said that at the event? I'm just speculating.. I would be happy if its 2x faster.. lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really sure if that equates to better performance, but it is more efficient.
If you think about it, past 1st gen snapdragon phones had very poor GPUs which made the CPU look slower. Maybe the upgraded GPU adds speed to an otherwise speedy CPU.
That could be true. Maybe the GPU in earlier Snapdragons was bottlenecking the CPU. Makes sense.. I also think these can be OC'ed more without issues due to the 45nm architecture.
but will the 1300mah battery life survive?
I think it should be better. The shrinkage in die size results in a more efficient CPU, which emits less heat and consumes less power. If it was 1500mAh it would have been super, but I think 1300 mAh will be pretty good.
Maybe, just maybe HTC might release 1500 batteries, which will be sold separately. Or we might have to turn to aftermarket battery makers to satisfy our needs! (obviously not the extended version, same size but higher mAh)
Superfrag said:
That could be true. Maybe the GPU in earlier Snapdragons was bottlenecking the CPU. Makes sense.. I also think these can be OC'ed more without issues due to the 45nm architecture.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've heard that the MSM7x30 is actually the new 1Ghz Snapdragon underclocked at 800Mhz. Apparently that info is on the qualcomm website somewhere. If true then hell yeah the CPU can be overclocked, at the expense of battery power though.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
The video on youtube titled "htc desire z - a closer look" is pretty amazing (i can't post links as i'm too new to this site). i'm just wondering how much is sense and how much will be on the g2...
skulk3r said:
a lot of the performance gain is from the Adreno 205 GPU as opposed to the older Adreno 200 GPUs on the Desire, HD2 and Evo. The Desire HD, however, also has the Adreno 205.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Notice that those specs specifically mention that the CPU is 2x faster and the GPU is 5x faster, so when they say the CPU is 2x faster, they are not talking about the performance boost gained from using the Adreno 205, they are specifically referring to a faster CPU core. That's what I'm wondering about, the GPU is faster for sure, but all evidence points to a CPU that performs the same (or worse, due to the 200MHz slower clock) but shrunk to 45nm for better power efficiency.
You guys think the g2 will get dlna functions?
We don't know. AFAIK, the Desire Z doesn't have DLNA, nor does the Desire HD. All we can do is wait for it to be released, or reviews of it to come out.
sheek360 said:
You guys think the g2 will get dlna functions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Superfrag said:
We don't know. AFAIK, the Desire Z doesn't have DLNA, nor does the Desire HD. All we can do is wait for it to be released, or reviews of it to come out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Desire Z seems to have DLNA, according to HTC. It's around 4 mins into the promo video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ
ppl... clock speed is like horsepwoer in a car. its not the only determinant of performance. other stuff matters in a car right? like aerodynamics, weight, transmission etc? same for a chip. engineering matters. 2nd gen snapdragons are 2nd gen for a reason... they're better
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
sheek360 said:
You guys think the g2 will get dlna functions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably not. I don't see t-mobile digging into their pockets for that.
j.books said:
ppl... clock speed is like horsepwoer in a car. its not the only determinant of performance. other stuff matters in a car right? like aerodynamics, weight, transmission etc? same for a chip. engineering matters. 2nd gen snapdragons are 2nd gen for a reason... they're better
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You don't understand, Snapdragon is not a chip, it's a chipset or SoC. The CPU in Snapdragon is called Scorpion, and the G2 supposedly uses the same CPU, except manufactured in a 45nm process rather than a 65nm process. So except for the clock speed, we shouldn't expect any changes in the performance of the CPU.
The new HTC Desire HD is now on HTC's website.
It is HD2 copy but with Android.
Nand on the way(?) when these are in XDA forum users hands.
the hardware is the same? I don't think soo :S
Snapdragon 8255 1gz
768MB of RAM
internal storage 1.5gb
and a battery 1230ma
8mpx
ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh I want one, I want one, I want one! or I'll settle for a nice android port.
really wana get a dump of the Desire HD so i can port it to the HD2, all those new widgets and apps, along with new camera app! easy port to be made
the desire hd is too easy to port like EVO....what I means is: EVO = HTC DESIRE HD
really hard to dump
No Hardware is a bit different, it uses a MSM8255 with a die size of 45nm instead of an QSD8250 CPU which die size is 65nm, this msm8255 CPU is based on the same core as the snapdragon QSD8250 of the HD2 and Desire, but will be more energy efficient.
It also features a possibility of 720P recording, probably it will do 720P HD playback as well with hardware acceleration in the CPU.
It features more RAM 786 instead of (unlocked HD2) 576MB. different screen, super LCD and last but not least, an 4GB internal flash drive and some features for faster booting.
Still hope we soon will find a really stable android release which will definitly replace WM6.5..
forgot to mention the (Dutch) source:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/1777/5/...droid-hardware-een-4-komma-3-inch-scherm.html
TheTeek said:
an 4GB internal flash drive]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
4GB... are you sure???
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
That says 1.5GB...
Nonetheless, 8mpx, faster loading time, more ram, more nand, blah blah blah, still pretty much = HD2 Android.
I urge everyone to wait for the new CPU man. It's RTM Q4/2010.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/08/qualcomm-1-5ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-devices-to-arrive-at-end-o/
The fake HD3 specs could true for some specs like 1Gb Ram Given the new Desire HD got 768mb ram.
Yeah.. Desire HD is Evo 4G...
and the spec is not that much different from HD2... even galaxy S got better spec then it (pity it got the iPhone wanna be looks,, hate it..)
I'll stick to HD2 until there's a big leap in Android phone...
deleted...
zelduy said:
Yeah.. Desire HD is Evo 4G...
and the spec is not that much different from HD2... even galaxy S got better spec then it (pity it got the iPhone wanna be looks,, hate it..)
I'll stick to HD2 until there's a big leap in Android phone...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My thoughts too. a fast SD card could will do the trick, besides we'll always be able to use WM at any time.
Until something with a TP2 form factor comes out, I don't think I'm getting a new device. I really miss the keyboard. Resco KB is doing the trick in WM, but it's not like feeling the buttons.
And for God's sake, add some specs. HTC is becoming like Nokia, same hardware in different enclosure every few months.
dang you all . this is android development channel not ur chit chat channel. push this into the android development general thread. why dont noobs understand what and where to put things @@@@
dealer75 said:
I got one for testing purposes...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you ever know that you're our hero? and you can fly higher than an Eagle and you are the wind between our legs?
What the deuce!!, just bought my HD2 4 weeks ago and still got my Nexus, Touch HD and Pro2 from last year lying around Curse you HTC, curse you!!!
deleted...
hi, can u get roms and post here....
deleted...
dealer75 said:
Nope, sorry, flashing is in a different department. We´re testing only our software on this devices to ensure the functionality on different enviroments. I can help only with pics and information which I can see in the device.
BTW, the Ace has a fullscreen watermark.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is it possible for you to post the .apks from the phone. this will help in development .. only if its possible.
TheTeek said:
No Hardware is a bit different, it uses a MSM8255 with a die size of 45nm instead of an QSD8250 CPU which die size is 65nm, this msm8255 CPU is based on the same core as the snapdragon QSD8250 of the HD2 and Desire, but will be more energy efficient.
It also features a possibility of 720P recording, probably it will do 720P HD playback as well with hardware acceleration in the CPU.
It features more RAM 786 instead of (unlocked HD2) 576MB. different screen, super LCD and last but not least, an 4GB internal flash drive and some features for faster booting.
Still hope we soon will find a really stable android release which will definitly replace WM6.5..
forgot to mention the (Dutch) source:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/1777/5/...droid-hardware-een-4-komma-3-inch-scherm.html
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
using my computer knowledge, all these won't affect porting if they use same component for radio/IO/DSP/wireless/bluetooth/GPS...etc
die shrink usually means pin-to-pin compatibility.
dealer75 said:
Nope, sorry, flashing is in a different department. We´re testing only our software on this devices to ensure the functionality on different enviroments. I can help only with pics and information which I can see in the device.
BTW, the Ace has a fullscreen watermark.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess you cannot disassemble them and look at chips inside then...
richteralan said:
I guess you cannot disassemble them and look at chips inside then...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
but what's the point? is it going to change anything...? all that we need is the rom dump and the rest is up to cooks.
btw, this thread is kinda pointless imho. we all know about release of desire hd and z.
If this is true it's a bit of a kick in the balls to you HD owners...
http://pocketnow.com/android/galaxy-s-2-desire-hd2-desire-2-wildfire-2-full-specs-leaked
8GB internal memory
960x540 resolution
1.2GHz dual core 8260 Snapdragon processor
Mobile technology is always moving forward at an incredible rate. That's why you should always opt for 12 month contacts or buy SIM free keep for a year, sell & upgrade.
These specs look pretty good for the DHD2.
I agree, but if you've just upgraded in the last few weeks this is going to hurt...
Certainly, if you've just ordered or bought the DHD then knowing there will be a better one out will hurt.
I'd be interested to know when it potentially would be released.
andyharney said:
Certainly, if you've just ordered or bought the DHD then knowing there will be a better one out will hurt.
I'd be interested to know when it potentially would be released.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
why would it hurt? htc release a new model every few months, if you have been buying HTC's as long as me you should be used to it, i bought my HTC nike and then the diamond came out, i bought the diamond and they release the HD, blah blah blah, if you buy the Desire HD2 no doubt within a few months a higher spec model will be released
Honestly, the specs aren't that much different!
1080p video recording? meh - and certainly if the 720p recording on the DHD is anything to go by, won't be anything special.
1.2GHz dual core? It's ok I suppose - but DHD does me proud at the moment and as long as I get no lag (and I don't really) then I'm fine with that.
Only real nice thing is the screen - but as we all know - screen specs are highly subject to change in the world of HTC!
andyharney said:
Mobile technology is always moving forward at an incredible rate. That's why you should always opt for 12 month contacts or buy SIM free keep for a year, sell & upgrade
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i completely agree, buy and sell it while it still has decent value and move on to the next one
3.3" screen? Must be a typo.
Still using the Adreno 205... Should have waited for the 220. DHD is supposed to be a flagship line.
Pretty poor, IMHO.
Wow, a lot of people here with a lot of money it would seem!!
If I'd just got the DHD I'd be pissed that this has been announced - fair enough a year after release but less than 6 months?
Well, those are not oficiall ofc and i don`t think sgs will use snapdragoon chips ;o but that qhd screen looks nice
Ahhhhhhhh I hate rumors...& here's why:
"As suspected, the Galaxy S 2 is said to run on a dual-core Qualcomm 8260 1.2GHz processor (not an Orion or Hummingbird, apparently)". Why would Samsung use Qualcomm? Look at the table here to better understand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_sales_leaders_by_year
The RAM is said to be 512...down from 768 Mb. Does that make sense?
Anyway, lets wait & see. MWC is a few days away.
RAWWWWR THE SCREEN IS NOT HD! HD is 1280 x 720 (720p) or 1920 x 1080 (1080p).
960 x 540 is 16:9 widescreen. but not HD. I wish, when specifically talking about screen resolutions, that companies wouldn't just drop "HD" on everything to drum up hype.
As with all technology, what you buy today, will be out of date by the time you have got it home and turned it on. This will always be the case. if you were waiting for the latest bit of kit, you would never buy anything.
I got the Desire, and have upgraded to the DHD. I dont see myself changing phones again for at least 12 months. Unless something really cool comes out
something wrong with this leak
galaxy S2 will never have a snapdrogon, samsung makes their own SOC
as for the dual snapdragon on the htc handsets, well it doesnt make sense either to have the old desire HD adreno 205
dual core snapdragons, gen 3, are coming with adreno 220, its in one chipset
equaly no way desire 2 is coming with the same old CPU/GPU
this is crazy
To be honest if that's the new desire, I'm not impressed. I think this is positive for us dhd users because with the release of this phone they should also release the gingerbread sense to dhd. If they don't it will till be applied by the great minds here at xda.
hamdir said:
something wrong with this leak
galaxy S2 will never have a snapdrogon, samsung makes their own SOC
as for the dual snapdragon on the htc handsets, well it doesnt make sense either to have the old desire HD adreno 205
dual core snapdragons, gen 3, are coming with adreno 220, its in one chipset
equaly no way desire 2 is coming with the same old CPU/GPU
this is crazy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
samsung dont make there own, just like every arm cortex cpu, its made for them by texas instruments, and it's quite conceivable that they would try qualcomm cpu's. as far as computing goes as a whole, its rare for a manufacturer to stick with one h/w company, all the big laptop and pc companies use both intel and AMD cpu's. so its only natural that smartphone manufacturers are sooner or later going to try the same thing
DeathJester said:
3.3" screen? Must be a typo.
Still using the Adreno 205... Should have waited for the 220. DHD is supposed to be a flagship line.
Pretty poor, IMHO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no way you can have MSM8260 and Adreno 205. Ask Qualcomm or just visit their site and read about the 3rd gen chips (something the "professional" mobile reviewers obviously find very difficult - they seem to write more articles than they read ). I personaly don't trust anything that comes from these sites, because their "news" are just rummors and their reviews are always biased on the brand that gives them pre-launch phones (ever wondered why GSMArena never gets HTC units before the launch and always find their phones inferior to Samsung?)
EddyOS said:
Wow, a lot of people here with a lot of money it would seem!!
If I'd just got the DHD I'd be pissed that this has been announced - fair enough a year after release but less than 6 months?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't see the problem Technology moves, if you don't want your pride and joy to be out of date in six months don't buy flagship products buy something thats already out of date, yeah if you've just bought a DHD you'd be a little miffed but I am sure if you buy a HD2 within six months something will come along that will blow it away
EddyOS said:
Wow, a lot of people here with a lot of money it would seem!!
If I'd just got the DHD I'd be pissed that this has been announced - fair enough a year after release but less than 6 months?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pffft i am rather peeved, just gotten me a contract on 3 one plan 35pm for 24 months . . . . . Suppose i'd have to wait now . . . . . when can i upgrade ?
EddyOS said:
If this is true it's a bit of a kick in the balls to you HD owners...
http://pocketnow.com/android/galaxy-s-2-desire-hd2-desire-2-wildfire-2-full-specs-leaked
8GB internal memory
960x540 resolution
1.2GHz dual core 8260 Snapdragon processor
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Samsung/Qualcomm issue does point to this article being nothing more than a rumor, but still, if only a few of the specs can be realised I actually cannot wait for the Desire HD2!!! I had been interested in maybe moving to a Samsung device if these 4.3inch Super Amoled's hit the market, but the superior resolution would have me all over the HTC.
I can see it being a kick in the teeth for some possibly, but there are some of us here who think nothing of buying new phones every few months and shamefully, I am one of those fools!
Cannot wait for MWC.
Regards.
http://briefmobile.com/htc-pyramid-renders-leaked-next-nexus-device
What do you guys think?
What do I think? I think that will be my next phone. Especially if it's Vanilla.
It looks like a hot device & possible upgrade from the N1 someday! Here's the main thread discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939909
No trackball
Sent from my Nexus One
Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.
abccg said:
Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some sites are reporting dual 1.2GHz processors but at this point it's probably just speculation.
If its a dual core, its mine
My money is on the next Nexus device being made by Motorola.
I hope it's not a pentile display like the Atrix.
I really hope that image is a mock up. It's basically an extended nexus minus the trackball.
it looks nice, but not that sexy
Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.
dual core and a bigger screen ftw. (hope it's dual core)
GldRush98 said:
Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would upgrade just to get a N1 with better/working touch.
That said, I prefer AMOLED.
HTC Pyramid will be first HTC's dual core phone. Looks good IMO
htc always rocks....
great devices
Everyone take a look at the back of it. We don't know if its a mock up picture or not, most likely, though I hope it will be like that when it comes to the states. But again, look at the back of your nexus one, then look at another android phone, then look at the pyramid picture. The google logo is google stand alone, which only dedicates to nexus line. Regular android phones don't have that
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?
gibosn6594 said:
No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might as well get used it, if my memory serves me correctly no recently released HTC Android device has a trackball. Actually, not just HTC, the trackball is almost non-existant on Android phones now.
Boswell20 said:
If its a dual core, its mine
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's got a dual-core 1.2 (per core) Snapdragon aka Scorpion. It's the same SoC in the HP TouchPad; better than Tegra 2.
EDIT: It's way WORSE than Tegra 2..... it's a Cortex A8 device, with an underwhelming GPU
HTC Pyramid benchmarks
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/
Don't see the point of single-core, sub-1gb-RAM phones in 2011 ... seriously.
Tegra 3 is coming out in august for pads, christmas for phones. Hoping HTC makes a nice Nexus HD or something out of it for the holidays.
- Tegra 3
- 1gb DDR3
- 16-32gb internal
- micro-sd slot
- 3.7-4.0in HD screen
- no keyboard for the love of God
- same build quality as N1 (not some Dollar-store Nexus S plastic plz)
- NFC or not, don't really care since it won't be widely used until like 2014
- Some sort of LED notification area (not necessarily a trackball, but an LED which we can control the same we do now on the N1... it's MUCH NEEDED!)
- this is a personal choice, but the same button placement (BACK - MENU - HOME - SEARCH) would rock ... I know most phones now have the BACK and MENU inversed...
- Dock support would rock too (same 3-pin system, wtv...)
- Most importantly, Vanilla Android. At that point, I'm guessing it will be Ice Cream [Sandwich?] or J...jello? copyright... wtv... something J.
No use buying a single-core phone in 2011 ! stick to the N1 for now...
Hi every1.
Was just reading this article :
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257
It is QUITE interesting to see that the Flyer scores so much higher in GPU compared to the Desire HD...
Could it be there are improved GPU drivers? Could this be the reason HTC Sense 3.0 is coming to the Flyer but NOT the Desire HD?
If this is the case, maybe some developers could get something valuable out of a possible Rom dump?
Any Ideas?
It might not be using the same GPU, that's just speculation according to that site
Due to the much higher res, it would also need a much better GPU to get higher scores, I doubt it's using the 205 looking at those results and that res
Joey93 said:
It might not be using the same GPU, that's just speculation according to that site
Due to the much higher res, it would also need a much better GPU to get higher scores, I doubt it's using the 205 looking at those results and that res
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes but Qualcomm (as far as we know) doesn't have any single cores with the 220.
Which is why I assume it has to be the 205. Or else Qualcomm made an exclusive for HTC?
In that case maybe HTC does have a point saying that parts of Sense 3.0 wont make it onto the Desire HD line because of hardware limitations...
Hm...
From what I've read over the net, the Flyer is running a dual-core clocked at 1.5Ghz? Which leads me to believe it'll be an Adreno 220.
I would be very disappointed the Flyer won't ship with a dual core chip given the competition. At minimum I'd expect the same specs as the recently announced HTC Sensation.
kinnyfaifai said:
From what I've read over the net, the Flyer is running a dual-core clocked at 1.5Ghz? Which leads me to believe it'll be an Adreno 220.
I would be very disappointed the Flyer won't ship with a dual core chip given the competition. At minimum I'd expect the same specs as the recently announced HTC Sensation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's single core http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
Hawks556 said:
It's single core http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But it could be dual-core with locked secound core... And Ardeno 220. I don't belive they have just build bigger desire HD, OC'ed CPU and thats it.
krogoth said:
But it could be dual-core with locked secound core... And Ardeno 220. I don't belive they have just build bigger desire HD, OC'ed CPU and thats it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It could also be quad-core with three cores locked, but I doubt it I think they would have advertised it as dual-core if it really was that.
Like someone else mentioned, the Flyer is using a single core for sure and most likely the same GPU as the Desire HD.
I would speculate that the score is so much higher because the Flyer is running Gingerbread. Gingerbread was said to improve graphics performance with better driver support, and maybe HTC decided to optimize their Adreno drivers too which probably explains the jump in performance.
To be honest this actually makes me a little more excited for the Gingerbread update coming anytime now because we'll probably get the same improvements
SupremeBeaver said:
Like someone else mentioned, the Flyer is using a single core for sure and most likely the same GPU as the Desire HD.
I would speculate that the score is so much higher because the Flyer is running Gingerbread. Gingerbread was said to improve graphics performance with better driver support, and maybe HTC decided to optimize their Adreno drivers too which probably explains the jump in performance.
To be honest this actually makes me a little more excited for the Gingerbread update coming anytime now because we'll probably get the same improvements
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm... knowing HTC, they probably wont bring any graphical improvements. We will probably have to get some dev to get what ever HTC did to improve the drivers.
Hawks556 said:
It's single core http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I stand corrected! I just had a peep on pdadb.net and it's reporting a single core 1.5Ghz chip with Adreno 205 GPU in it. Obviously take that with a pinch of salt, anything can happen from now till release day.
If it is running an Adreno 205, then lets hope they have developed an optimized driver that can be ported.
Has anyone (I say anyone, I mean devs) had a look at the Xperia Play GPU drivers yet? Same chipset, but apparently heavily optimised drivers. I think LeeDrOiD was going to look into it but I'm not sure if he got round to it.
+1
Even an employee in Qualcomm said that the graphic driver in desire hd is somewhat "immature"
But there's another possibility, the flyer may use dual channel ddrs which makes its memory bandwidth doubles the dhd, and we don't have dedicated vram, so.......?
Sent via psychic transmittion.
Attention, smartbench is always leaning towards Samsung.
Sensation in smartbench is even weaker then i9000 in gaming. But GLbenchmark tells differently, it shows 3rd gen snapdragon is faster than tegra2 in graphics(optimus 2x)
Sent via psychic transmittion.
I for one don't trust any(and I mean ANY) synthetic benchmarks.The only benchmarks I trust are the ones dedicated to a certain aspect of the device,e.g Linpack for CPU,Nenamark/GLBenchmark etc for CPU and so on.Synthetic benchmarks can be quite unreliable.
tolis626 said:
I for one don't trust any(and I mean ANY) synthetic benchmarks.The only benchmarks I trust are the ones dedicated to a certain aspect of the device,e.g Linpack for CPU,Nenamark/GLBenchmark etc for CPU and so on.Synthetic benchmarks can be quite unreliable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True.
Because those dedicated benchmarks are much more professional.
Sent via psychic transmittion.