My mom is thinking about getting the Gtab but she really wants a keyboard, but $100 is a steep price. Is there any bluetooth keyboard or something that would be usable?
The K-Zoo Kid said:
My mom is thinking about getting the Gtab but she really wants a keyboard, but $100 is a steep price. Is there any bluetooth keyboard or something that would be usable?
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That depends on a few things, but assuming its the same as the Galaxy then IIRC you will not be able to use a random bluetooth keyboard. However, that doesn't mean it is not hackable, and particularly the Cyanogen project gives hull bluetooth HID support. Currently we're still waiting for it on the galaxy, but it is in the works, and it shouldn't take much to get from galaxy to tab.
The problem I see is that without the dock-keyboard, you need something to hold the tab near vertically to really use a keyboard properlly, so just a random bt keyboard wouldn't seem to offer a great amount even if they do get it to work.
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That depends on a few things, but assuming its the same as the Galaxy then IIRC you will not be able to use a random bluetooth keyboard. However, that doesn't mean it is not hackable, and particularly the Cyanogen project gives hull bluetooth HID support. Currently we're still waiting for it on the galaxy, but it is in the works, and it shouldn't take much to get from galaxy to tab.
The problem I see is that without the dock-keyboard, you need something to hold the tab near vertically to really use a keyboard properlly, so just a random bt keyboard wouldn't seem to offer a great amount even if they do get it to work.
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I understand that.. I'm sure there will be some kind of kick stand case, or I could come up with something to lean it against. Is there such a thing a full bt keyboard?
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Yes, they do exist, although they are more on the scale of a laptop keyboard rather than a full desktop one. Some even come with a touch pad.
You're best bet will be to wait a little after release and see if the USB host and BT stuff appear quickly. I imagine there won't be too much of a wait to see what happens, and if thats the only way you'd wanna use it, then its definitely better to be certain.
LostAlone said:
Yes, they do exist, although they are more on the scale of a laptop keyboard rather than a full desktop one. Some even come with a touch pad.
You're best bet will be to wait a little after release and see if the USB host and BT stuff appear quickly. I imagine there won't be too much of a wait to see what happens, and if thats the only way you'd wanna use it, then its definitely better to be certain.
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Alright, thank you for the info.
Sent from Vibrant
I use the Logitech diNovo Edge, keyboard and mouse works perfect.
Yes, you can.
Here is a guy using an Apple wireless keyboard (bluetooth enabled).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYFexm_pFn4
Well this is awesome *does a little dance*.
For my galaxy tab, I'm using my old Think Outside Slim Bluetooth keyboard. To connect it, I downloaded the Bluekeyboard JP from the Market. However now, I find the Swype absolutely amazing so I use this now most of the time. Just a little practice and Swype is very fast to use.
I use my old iGO bluetooth keyboard that I got a few years back. It synced easily, the Tab prompted me to type in a five digit number on the BT keyboard and hit enter, that's it, so I imagine ANY bluetooth keyboard will sync up in the same exact manner.
My keyboard:
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Suleeto said:
I use my old iGO bluetooth keyboard that I got a few years back. It synced easily, the Tab prompted me to type in a five digit number on the BT keyboard and hit enter, that's it, so I imagine ANY bluetooth keyboard will sync up in the same exact manner.
My keyboard:
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I use the apple keyboard without any problem. BTW if you are rooted you can assign many of shortcuts that comes with the Samsung dock keyboard also to a bluetooth keyboard.
Just move all the files out of the /system/usr/keylayout folder *except* for the qwerty.kl file. Now open the qwerty.kl file and assign commands from the p1-keyboard.kl to keycombinations like shift left arrow etc. (In the qwerty.kl file you can also assign alternative commands to the tab buttons)
I plan to make an app for this later.
EDIT: btw be careful with this. If you assign commands that can't be recognized none of your keys will work and you will have to push the keylayout files with adb (under su r/w permission) or reflash your firmware.
Today i tried to pair my Tab with this keyboard, workes without problems :
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3616
Even the mouse part works, the only real problem is making gestures .
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Alright, So I have this Universal, and I love it. Then one day, I figured that it shows a certain resemblance to something else...
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See the resemblance?
A keyboard?
Two extra keys?
A touch-pad/touch-screen?
So I figured, why am I still ****ing with this media center keyboard and it's silly joystick-for-mouse thing? I got a full fledged remote control as a phone!
After two days and a lot of stupid windowing and socket coding later, I had a semi working app
I've attached it here. It's still alpha, so only download if you want to test, it's not ready for real usage yet
What it does at this point? You can move the mouse, but it will be pretty jerky, and you can type
What is still to do?
- Proper protocol, not some dumb-ass dynamic package size ****
- Soft keys -> mouse buttons
- Proper server application, system tray icon and all
- Password protection
- Some more neat features
- Maybe some features people recommend
How does it work? run PPCRCServerTest.exe on your PC, and run PPCRCClient.exe on your device. tap the screen, enter IP or hostname (for some reason hostnames only seem to look up if connected through activesync...), and hit connect. Once it says "Connected", start typing and moving touching your screen
Also, please note that for some reason WiFi seems to be faster than ActiveSync. I have no idea why, but it just does... odd uh?
So what do I need back in return?
- Feedback
- How on EARTH to know when a soft-key is pressed and released
That's pretty much it
Remember, just a little preview, not ready for real use yet!
Bye,
TB
Hi TheBlasphemer.
I don't have a uni, but your app still sounds pretty neat.
Here's something that might help you alone (if you haven't found it yourself yet):
There is a function called SetWindowsHookEx. I haven't played with it much, but I know it lets you hook the keyboard (all of it) and handle all key events up / down. If I am not mistaken it returns the address of the previous function so you can delegate the keys you don't want to handle back to the system. Kind of like window subclassing.
Now all you need is some debug prints to figure out what VK codes respond to the soft keys and you are done.
Good luck!
levenum said:
Hi TheBlasphemer.
I don't have a uni, but your app still sounds pretty neat.
Here's something that might help you alone (if you haven't found it yourself yet):
There is a function called SetWindowsHookEx. I haven't played with it much, but I know it lets you hook the keyboard (all of it) and handle all key events up / down. If I am not mistaken it returns the address of the previous function so you can delegate the keys you don't want to handle back to the system. Kind of like window subclassing.
Now all you need is some debug prints to figure out what VK codes respond to the soft keys and you are done.
Good luck!
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Actually as my window is the top window, I already receive all key events through WM_KEYDOWN and WM_KEYUP, so there's no need for windows hooks and stuff
I have looked into what happens when someone presses a softkey, but I only seem to get two weird keyup events when I release it :S (VK 112+16 and VK 113 + 16). I could use these, but as I could only see when they're clicked, I would only be able to do mouse clicks, not dragging
Btw, it should also work on other PPCs, like the wizard
Hi
Just tried on my BA WM5. It connects (it says connected on the PC server) then it closes the connection immediatelly for a reason. But this looks like a promising app so I'll keep on tracking it...
P.S: Do you plan to release the source code? (I'm a beginner programmer, examples are always good )
I read a thread on here somewhere that the bluetooth keyboard didnt work.
Well I though I would give mine a go, sure enough the drivers installed, but couldnt find the bluetooth stack...
But go to settings, bluetooth and add new device, you can add the keyboard and it detects it as one... It doesnt need any drivers!!! Keyboard works fine!!!
Im off to try it with a playstation game now!
Yep, my iGO ultraslim worked like that, no problems whatsoever.
Has anyone with the bluetooth gamepad tried to pair it like that with out drivers, maybe that will work?
the iGO keyboard doesnt work very well on the playstation emulator, I managed to find about 4 keys that worked, any of the letters brought up the phone dialer
Tried installing the WM5 drivers for my ThinkOutside Ultra-slim keyboard (the one I bought to go with my Palm Tungsten T3!) and it didn't work at all... said that the Bluetooth stack was different or missing or something.
Then I put the keyboard onto 'discoverable' and asked my HD2 to link to it... and it worked!
EASY
And although this keyboard is kinda old now, it still works like a dream - keystrokes appearing faster than I can type though without shortcuts - and I'm a happy boy again
Yeh, I was very happy when I got it working, thats why I was wondering if the built in bluetooth software would detect the bluetooth gamepad that people cant get drivers working on?
My Freedom BT KBD2 works well, with drivers already on HD2:
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I have my Think Outside working but unfortunately no function keys or shortcut keys mapped to the keyboard work. Its just a basic keyboard right now, which is great but I would love to have its full functionality back. Anyone know if a fix is possible? Or another keyboard that can do this?
Cheers,
and if you have a German layout one, you are screwed, because somehow the Bluetooth Manager/Stack/whatever on the HD2 always uses an English layout...
Stowaway/Thinkoutside slim bluetooth kb
My Stowaway works well, functions and all, but no typing sound. (it used to on other devices)
I accidentally discovered that my Dinovo edge keyboard works well with my HD2.
Who wouda thunk it?
functions too!? what model is yours and what ROM you running?
One more ThinkOutside (Well, actually Dell Axim Executive BLuetooth keyboard but potayto potahtoe) working fine without additional software. However, does anyone know how to stop the onscreenkeyboard popping up when It's connected. The HTC keyboard seems Insistent on popping up and autocorrecting, which Is very nice when I don't have this handy but Irritating ++ when I do!
Ta!
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Yep, my iGO ultraslim worked like that, no problems whatsoever.
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I thought this only had Microsoft BT drivers? Do all the keys work?
Thanks
Keys work, however most of the function keys do not (like shortcuts to Notes/Email/Web etc, the Start key does).
Function Keys Not Working - Cause Found
All,
Recently purchased a beautiful Freedom Pro keyboard for my TP2. The keyboard, like all other keyboards mentioned on this forum before works well, apart from the Function keys. Also, non standard keys to go to the Calendar, Tasks etc do not work.
Had written to the guys at Freedom Input. Apparently, the newer devices like HD2 and TP2 come with a built in HID Keyboard profile which gets activated when the phone is paired. This prevents the actual third party keyboard driver from getting activated. This leads to the standard keys being active on the keyboard, but the device specific keys do not work.
There is no solution right now for this. Please post incase anyone has any ideas, or can come up with a way to disable the default BT HID Keyboard profile to let the third party driver take over.
Poseidon
I can use both my DiNove Edge and DiNovo Mini keyboard on HD2. no drivers needed
I have used my Mini Dinovo with my HD2, with no drivers used, I need to have a go at trying to map the buttons with FPSEce so I can get a bit of pro gaming on the go!
skippinshanghai said:
Tried installing the WM5 drivers for my ThinkOutside Ultra-slim keyboard (the one I bought to go with my Palm Tungsten T3!) and it didn't work at all... said that the Bluetooth stack was different or missing or something.
Then I put the keyboard onto 'discoverable' and asked my HD2 to link to it... and it worked!
EASY
And although this keyboard is kinda old now, it still works like a dream - keystrokes appearing faster than I can type though without shortcuts - and I'm a happy boy again
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Hi, Just bought the IGO ultra slim keyboard on ebay. Have a HTC HD2 windows 6.5.3. Do I need to install the downloaded wm5 drivers, if so where do I put them as I do not have the cd so I do not know where to put the drivers on the phone memory, can you help me?
I have an Apple BT keyboard and it works ok except for the arrow keys, but I'm unable to get my M$ mouse to work, there is no driver for it. I'm still waiting on Teksoftco.com to get their Blueinput Broadcomm to work, it's been most of the year in development. I see they have an Android version. Anyone try the Android builds with BT devices? I have the base Froyo but haven't tried it yet.
sorry to report that my Thinkoutside Keyboard stopped working -- specifically the J, K, and L keys. A google search shows it to be a common problem.
Going to buy another bluetooth keyboard to replace...something cheap but not folding (as I suspect that's why my keyboard failed)! Maybe the Apple keyboard but it's a little large still.
i have a mini Bt keyboard for my cappy, hate the on-screen (soft key) keyboard poping up when a hardware keyboard is present.
ive seen many people looking around for this too, IM WILLING TO PAY!
a simple way to "possibly" do this,
for win mo they had a "null keyboard" (blank keyboard) that could be installed and switched to, to "hide" it.
a widget that will toggle input method could accomplish this if with a blank keyboard to install as well.
other thoughts...
something else i came accross dont know if it helpls..
http://www.androidsnippets.com/how-to-remove-focus-and-hide-the-on-screen-keyboard
So far I will personnaly put up $10, anyone else want to sweeten the pot? PAID!!
Done!
Install it and you will get an extra Keyboard "Null Keyboard v2".
Select it as input method and your good to go .
Let me know if it works.
First one is just the Keyboard
The second one is the Keyboard + Widget
Edit: Added 2nd version with Widget.
Done! it works, money SENT!,
i just have some suggestions for re-finement, so its nice and pollished!
i see the widget isnt necessary as you can long click any dialog box to bring up the "select input method" window. however, could you make the widget bring up that selection window instead of locale and text?
and on first "placing" widget on desktop, a pop-up comes up telling you to enable NullKey2 in "local and text".
as far as function, i have no more suggestions, maybe color options? you could select a color in the same window that pops up (i suggested) to tell user to enable in local and text...
with those changes it would definately be worth .99 at least on Android market.
for anyone following this thread, it is still under very quick development and all further versions will be available on the market from Dark3n !
here is a screenshot of the latest version (my personal name version)
this should be in the market next month according to Dark3n.
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now on market!!!!!!
https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.thedarken.nkv2&feature=search_result
Trusselo said:
i have a mini Bt keyboard for my cappy, hate the on-screen (soft key) keyboard poping up when a hardware keyboard is present.
ive seen many people looking around for this too, IM WILLING TO PAY!
a simple way to "possibly" do this,
for win mo they had a "null keyboard" (blank keyboard) that could be installed and switched to, to "hide" it.
a widget that will toggle input method could accomplish this if with a blank keyboard to install as well.
other thoughts...
something else i came accross dont know if it helpls..
http://www.androidsnippets.com/how-to-remove-focus-and-hide-the-on-screen-keyboard
So far I will personnaly put up $10, anyone else want to sweeten the pot?
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What BT keyboard are you using? I'm considering buying one. Thanks.
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mini bt keyboard from ebay and my logitech dinovo edge from my pc.
Trusselo said:
now on market!!!!!!
https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.thedarken.nkv2&feature=search_result
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Might want to point out it's the creator who is selling it. I was a bit confused at first
Neat idea for an app though. Kudos to both you guys.
the creator usually does sell their work. and was stated he would. there arent many pages to follow...
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the creator usually does sell their work. and was stated he would. there arent many pages to follow...
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As yes, my appologies -- I missed it next to your 500 ft screenshot
Still, take the compliment and chillax. Was just saying it was confusing at first glance. It's a cool app and idea.
Dark3n said:
Done!
Install it and you will get an extra Keyboard "Null Keyboard v2".
Select it as input method and your good to go .
Let me know if it works.
First one is just the Keyboard
The second one is the Keyboard + Widget
Edit: Added 2nd version with Widget.
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Is there any way to disable the blank area from coming up?
try PM ing him and are you using the market version or the tester version in this thread?
and what blank area?
hey that mini keyboard you posted a few pages back looks freakin AWESOME.
Do you have any more information on it by chance besides 'mini bt keyboard' from eBay?
and does it come out of that case?
yup right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926600&page=3
page 3 and 4
Would it be feasible to add the possibility to still have the dictionary prediction/correction for what you type with the external keyboard while using Null Keyboard?
Hi,
I'm almost in love with my GSII despite the fact that the keyboard is taking too much place on the screen when I'm writing a SMS or a simple message...
I encounter a "serious" problem with my GSII when I was writing an answer in a forum, I couldn't see what I was writing, there was no focus on the written line :
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At this time the copy-paste and the pinch to zoom are becoming inaccurate, if I want to re-focus in the good area, as soon as I tap another word, the screen moves down automatically :
Same problem in Dophin HD or whatever keyboard installed.
Very... very annoying.
Did you noticed this too ?
Thanx
Up please. I need to know if the problem is software or...
I have to say I find this very, very annoying as well. It's not super terrible in the stock browser, but I'm using Firefox and I can't even see the text window. Also, I'm getting weird behavior in Firefox. At least in the xda forums, nothing gets inserted into the text box as I type. Gonna try a restart to see if that helps. In my screenshot, I've got XT9 on. With it off it's only marginally better.
Tanx.
Yeah the notification tab is too big. If you can't see what you are writing in a such big screen, what's the point??? Samsung screwed up big time on this, never had that problem with other Android phones.
Hope they release a fix for this quickly or maybe the new firmwares already solve the problem but I'm waiting for official ones.
Probably my major annoyance with the phone. Often you have to guess what you're typing because as soon as you start typing the text goes up out of sight in some places like forums and such.
guest member said:
Probably my major annoyance with the phone. Often you have to guess what you're typing because as soon as you start typing the text goes up out of sight in some places like forums and such.
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Did you get the latest firmwares ?
Well, slightly annoying, but when typing (forums, logins, etc.) I hold it in portrait mode ...............
Yeah you right, but I randomly encounter the same problem in portrait mode... Plus in this mode, it becomes more difficult, for me, to read cause I have a bad sight.
We clearly have a super-phone here but problems like this shouldn't exist
I noticed this too, and I use Dolphin HD.
Very very annoying
Text editing in Android is just bad overall... needs to be fixed
It seems that we are only a few to be really annoyed by this problem... up !
I'm glad I'm used to typing in portrait mode. Landscape makes me slower, actually. I got in luck with this one..
Receiving my SGS2 this afternoon! (finally.. wasn't home on friday)
Up people ! Feedback needed !
My biggest annoyance with the keyboard is that the spacebar is too short, I keep hitting the full stop, which is a pain in the arse!!
Loving swype though.
Try HTC_IME_hi22 it will let you type and see where you are typing and doesn't take up as much room as the stock keyboard, plus, it has lots of settings to personalise it, I think you will like it.
Why don't you use preinstalled Swype Keyboard?
Use smartkeyboard from market. Its the first thing I install in any phone.
I'm already using smartkeyboard but keyboard isn't the real problem I think.
I use Swiftkey, and yes this problem is very annoying. What's worse though is I find tapping your sentence to place the cursor at a specific point utterly hit and miss. It's really, really hard to get it where you want it.
This might just be a problem with the forum I use the most (whirlpool), but it's bloody annoying.
I have to say, the iPhone is way ahead when it comes to placing the cursor where you want it. I'm hanging for a mod that uses the little magnifying glass thing that the iPhone has.
trs020382 said:
My biggest annoyance with the keyboard is that the spacebar is too short, I keep hitting the full stop, which is a pain in the arse!!
Loving swype though.
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As the OP said, download smart keyboard
It lets you customize the keyboard however you'd like (well, almost)
In your case, you can make the spacebar bigger
I'm sure i'm missing something here..
I can't get my Nexus 7 stock keyboard (stock OTA 4.1.1) to longpress the top row and get numbers... eg: Longpress 'Q' to get '1'.
It doesn't show the small numbers on top of the keys either.
Have tried changing some setting, I also tried changing keyboard language but nothing :/
My nexus S is updated with Jellybean (stock OTA 4.1) and it does work.
Anyone got the same issue?
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I think you need the AOSP keyboard?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImplbGx5YmVhbmtleWJvYXJkLmYuZyJd
The stock keyboard does not have that ability. You will need to use another keyboard. Most do including Swype etc...
krelvinaz said:
The stock keyboard does not have that ability. You will need to use another keyboard. Most do including Swype etc...
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thanks for quick reply
i still don't understand why the tablet stock keyboard does not have that functionality... is there any specific reason why they would take that option off?
It just doesnt.
Not sure who would answer that or provide you with an answer you would accept... Just get another keyboard, there are many to choose from.
Via my HTC Rezound
https://plus.google.com/106855304824120284695/posts/BKDjRsb4Dqq
This one is for you
Actually the standard keyboard has this feature, but only in the 360px layout (thats why it works on your Nexus S). In tablet layouts (600px, 768px) the number shortcuts are available in English, but not in other languages (e.g. German).
This is somewhere in the middle between a bug and sloppy design on Googles behalf.
4.2 Keyboard
Now if someone can fix the 4.2 Keyboard to work with long press for numbers I'd be really happy. Swype Keyboard sucks compared to the new 4.2 keyboard.
Bump... Seems I can't get the old fix to work... and I liked it so much! Definitely a fail on Google's behalf.
Found this after starting my own thread, sigh. I see that the stock keyboard in the CM Roms for the fire have this but not the Nexus 7. Is this because the two devices are on either side of the resolution threshold?
Peterb
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
This is so disappointing. The keyboard is one of my most favorite things about my galaxy nexus. All inclusive, from the gesture typing to the long-press for numbers. To me, it's flawless. But now that I've got a Nexus 7, and I have to hit another button just to switch between alpha to numeric? It's like using an iphone! Disturbing!
So this is a bump. Seeking out other threads and solutions. I mean, I could install another keyboard, but.....no. The 4.2.x keyboard experience is just too fantastic without this flaw.
Subversion said:
This is so disappointing. The keyboard is one of my most favorite things about my galaxy nexus. All inclusive, from the gesture typing to the long-press for numbers. To me, it's flawless. But now that I've got a Nexus 7, and I have to hit another button just to switch between alpha to numeric? It's like using an iphone! Disturbing!
So this is a bump. Seeking out other threads and solutions. I mean, I could install another keyboard, but.....no. The 4.2.x keyboard experience is just too fantastic without this flaw.
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Don't know if this trick is known to everyone already but you can actually long press a key for a number. Just long press and hold the number key "?123" then slide through the number you like then let go and voila you have a number and you'll be back to letters again - similar to an iphone keyboard in a way
The MoDaCo ROM has a patched keyboard with the longpress enabled.
cezzarmicu said:
Don't know if this trick is known to everyone already but you can actually long press a key for a number. Just long press and hold the number key "?123" then slide through the number you like then let go and voila you have a number and you'll be back to letters again - similar to an iphone keyboard in a way
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Oops, I misread what you were saying. Nice tip, actually. I just wish it worked the way I previously expected, because I'm not a fan of your (valid) method.
Didn't know that about the iphone keyboard either. Now my work iphone is moderately less unpleasant.
Thanks.