[Q] Apps to SD? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

ok so coming from the G1 with apps2SD and moving apps from memory to SD was easy. Well i just went and installed a bunch of apps on my HD2 and suddenly got the "low on system storage" memory. i went into settings and tried to move apps to SD but wouldn't let me. Searched forums, and cant find an answer. How can i install android apps to the SD? it seems that if the android OS is on the SD card, wouldn't the apps naturally install there?! thanks for any help.

Yes, your android runs from the SD card. But your android does recognize the data.img in your folder as the system storage. That means if you have a build that creates a 1GB data.img, your storage is limited to 1GB.
How big is you data.img?
The option to install something on the SD isn't possible.
Cheers
- J

Same situation
I'm also coming from a G1 with cyanogenmod using Apps2sd...
...is there any way that i can run my current apps from my sd card on the HD2?
or atleast copy them to the device?

Yes, if you have them in *.apk form.
You can create a folder on the SD card, I call it apps, and copy them there. Then use a file manager, I use Astro, to navigate the sd card and install them into Android. This way you don't have to keep reloading them from Market.
You can also put them into the Android Apps folder inside the Android folder and they will be installed on boot.
Cheers...

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Installing applications on SD card instead of main memory

Everytime I install new program to HD2 it asks me if I want to install into main memory or SD card. My PC windows experience says that it is advisable to install programs to main drive (C: usually). Does the same logic apply to WM devices? Or is it safe to install apps into SD card (which would leave more space on actual device)
It's really up to you where you install them. The only things to bear in mind are that the internal storage cannot be expanded, and you can remove the storage card.
The way I do this is to install anything that I think I'll really want to always have at hand on the device (essential apps like coreplayer, nitrogen etc..) That way, if I remove the storage card then my device still has my most favoured apps on it. Anything that I'm not too fussed about (games in my case) goes on the storage card.
It's your call completely, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with installing things on the storage card. In fact, I'd recommend doing it when you're installing non-essential apps so that you save internal storage for things that you don't have a choice with (MarketPlace apps, for example, or tweaks and mods).
Hope this helps mate.
ok, thanks for detailed reply. I will try to install apps to SD card, if that option becomes available during installation process. I am not switching SD cards, so it should be fine then.
one more question that is related to the first one... If I install application on SD card, then if I take the memory card out, put new ROM into phone and insert SD card back. Will applications run as before installing new ROM? Are all program files saved to SD card when installing or does it do some registry entries or save some files onto maine phone memory???
In my old JasJam I found that programs loaded faster when stored on the device storage as opposed to the SD card.
Is this the same on the HD2?
If you upgrade ROM then you will need to do a backup first then restore afterwards otherwise you will lose everything including the links to the programs on the SD Card (although the programs will still be there).
I use SPB backup to do this. It works well. I used it yesterday after I upgraded my O2 V1.43 ROM to HTC 1.66. The restore worked great
All Micro D cards aren't the same I paid a bit more and got a Class 6(fastest) 16GB card. Class 2 is the slowest.
I hope this helps?
Things to remember
SD card usage eats battery.
SD card usage is slower than phone mem.
SD card usage can cause conflicts and freezes.
SD card usage creates app associations that really should not be carried over to new ROM flashes.
Installation to phone mem gives smoother and more stable operation of phone.
You have plenty of on phone storage space so why not use it?
Links to apps gone
i have loads of applications on my SD card for my HD2 but when i reset it i lost all the links to them so now the only way to get to them is to go to the file explorer but i dont have any icons anywhere else on my phone, any suggestions?
Either reinstall the apps, or simply browse to the executables, copy, and paste as shortcut in \windows\start menu.

[Q] How do you move apps from Old SD card to New SD card?

I have moved Apps from internal memory to my stock 8gb SD card that came with my phone using ApptoSD. I now upgraded to a 16gb SD card and have copied every folder/file on this 8gb card to my deskto computer and then moved onto the 16gb SD card. My problem is that the programs appear on the Manage Applications in the HTC EVO setup, however none of the applications open from my shortcuts nor appear in the All Apps menu button. What am I doing wrong? Is there anyway to copy from one SD card to the other and get the applications to work?
I might have either moved all the apps to phone memory or used titanium back up to back them up and also to move them. Now however the symlinks are going to oblivion. So use root explorer go to /mnt/asec and long tap each app to re-install.
You could explore app2sd application from market, to see what it finds, as it rebuilds it's list each time it starts.

Move App 2 SD

i download an app and move it to my sd card. i open es file explorer and install the app. ok the app is installed. but the app is installed in the phone memory, i dont want that coz its already low, so i go to manage apps and go to the app i just installed an the move to sd card is greyed out. this happens everytime i put a app or game on sd card and install it. whereas if i download something from market i have the option to move to sd card r it has been already installed to sd card.
im u usin hd2 using this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881937
any help coz the phone memory is going very low
There's various apps for handling moving stuff to the SD card, or defaulting to install there, but I personally use Titanium Backup because I use it for other stuff too. There's an option in batch options to move every non-system app to the SD card.
That's never failed for me.
Keep in mind though that some apps don't work once you've moved them to the SD card. It's a pain, but you have to move some of them back to the phone. You can do this using the method you described above. Once they're on the SD card, the option to move them says "move to phone" and is no longer disabled.

[Q] Should I format or partition my SD card?

I rooted my Aria using Unrevoked's one-click method, and flashed ATTN's FR008 ROM. I currently have only the factory 2GB sd card. I dl'd APPS2SD from the market and have moved the apps that are eligible to the SD card. There are still many apps that are still on the internal storage. My internal storage usually hovers around 100MB free; for right now anyway.
How low can the internal storage get before performance begins to degrade? Would it benefit me to dl ROM Manager? I am not too familiar with the pros/cons and/or procedures for partitioning the sd card.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated! This is a great place for support and information and THANKS to all the dev's for all their hard work!!!
Perseids said:
I rooted my Aria using Unrevoked's one-click method, and flashed ATTN's FR008 ROM. I currently have only the factory 2GB sd card. I dl'd APPS2SD from the market and have moved the apps that are eligible to the SD card. There are still many apps that are still on the internal storage. My internal storage usually hovers around 100MB free; for right now anyway.
How low can the internal storage get before performance begins to degrade? Would it benefit me to dl ROM Manager? I am not too familiar with the pros/cons and/or procedures for partitioning the sd card.
Any help or advice is greatly appreciated! This is a great place for support and information and THANKS to all the dev's for all their hard work!!!
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The internal storage you're seeing is strictly for apps and doesn't affect the operating system in any way. So no performance will ever be lost due to filling this up with as apps. To see "system"memory go menu> applications> running services. That's the one that affects performance.
Sent from my cm7 Aria using XDA App
What is the deal with EXT/2 and etc...?
I haven't figured out what the deal with the EXT partition is yet. I got a new 8GB card and was gonna put it in but was gonna wait til I understood all that first.
Should I Do a nandroid backup..
copy all contents of current SD card to pc...
Insert new card...
Format/Partition new card...
Copy previous backup of SD card to new card...
I'm just a little lost as to the advantage of the partition.
Any info. is greatly appreciated!
Noob question sorry, Is there a point where the memory in the device affects its performance? Like if too much of the internal memory is used will the phone run slower? Or what is the point of this apps to SD.
Using DT's A2SD method involving an ext2, 3, or 4 partition on the SD card moves every downloaded and installed app (minus system apps) onto the SD card. The A2SD provided with Froyo only allows apps that have been updated to work with A2SD would be able to move.
Moving all of your apps to the SD card is essentially the same as Cyanogen's setting to move all apps to the SD card. However, with the partition and DT's A2SD, it mounts the SD card's partition during the boot process which allows widgets and Facebook sync to be run off the SD card directly. (ie. Facebook sync will always stay synced no matter how many times you reboot, widgets will not have a "Problem Loading Widget" bar on your homescreen after you reboot)
With the normal A2SD, the apps on the SD card will load last after your phone has already booted up ("Preparing SD Card" in the notification bar).
Plus, you would be able to move your dalvik-cache (and app data --> experimental) to the SD card's partition also freeing up more internal memory.
Perseids said:
I haven't figured out what the deal with the EXT partition is yet. I got a new 8GB card and was gonna put it in but was gonna wait til I understood all that first.
Should I Do a nandroid backup..
copy all contents of current SD card to pc...
Insert new card...
Format/Partition new card...
Copy previous backup of SD card to new card...
I'm just a little lost as to the advantage of the partition.
Any info. is greatly appreciated!
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The above steps are correct. If you want an ext partition you can do that through rom manager (will wipe sd card so back up to pc).
Unless you plan to run the DT a2sd you don't need an extension partition. Froyo a2sd moves the apps to the fat32 partition, the main partition of your sd card, not an ext partition.
I personally recommend using DT a2sd.
Sent from my cm7 Aria using XDA App
vicmora5 said:
Noob question sorry, Is there a point where the memory in the device affects its performance? Like if too much of the internal memory is used will the phone run slower? Or what is the point of this apps to SD.
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you could fill your internal memory up to the point where there was no more room for apps to cache I suppose. But that's really it.
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Success, but need more help
Okay, I got my sd card partioned (512MB EXT, 64MB swap). I dl'd and installed DT's A2SD and the best I can tell upon reboot A2SD moved apps to SD card. The only way I can tell is using DriveWatch.
I am using GOLauncher EX and now the flipping in the tray appears to be greatly affected by the app being on the SD card. Is there a way to move selected apps back to the phone?
No there isn't.
BTW you can check if your apps are on your SD card by typing
su
a2sd check
a2sd diskspace
In the terminal emulator
Perseids said:
Okay, I got my sd card partioned (512MB EXT, 64MB swap). I dl'd and installed DT's A2SD and the best I can tell upon reboot A2SD moved apps to SD card. The only way I can tell is using DriveWatch.
I am using GOLauncher EX and now the flipping in the tray appears to be greatly affected by the app being on the SD card. Is there a way to move selected apps back to the phone?
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What you can do is delete go launcher then unzip the rom you flashed and put the go launcher apk into the /system/app folder and rezip it. boot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvic (don't wipe data), and then reflash your rom. DT a2sd doesn't move apps on the /system partition. This is what I do with launcherpro.
EDIT: you can try just pulling the go launcher apk via ADB and then removing it from the /data/app folder and then pushing the pulled app to the /system/app folder. This would be easier but I've had apps that FC after using this method. Some work, some don't.
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Great advice!. Seems there is always more than one way to skin a cat. I will give one of those methods a try.

[Q] Apps on my internal SD card disapeared when i put in external sd card

Hi
I'm using Go launcher EX. I bought a 16GB micro sdhc card for my huawei titan u8800. When i put it in suddenly over half of my apps disapeared from the app list and in my homescreens they only showed the green loading icon. When i try to click on them on the home screen it says that the application is not installed. I think it was the apps that i had moved to the internal storage that disapeared. In the memory info it still says that the internal memory card is almost used up so it doesnt seem to have been deleted. After i took out the card and rebooted they came back after about 10 minutes. Is it any way to get the apps back while i have the sd card in?
which rom are you using? Stock 2.2.2, cm7, miui?
I am using android 2.2.1 that came with the phone.
So, you din't have an external sd card and used the internal sd to install some apps there?
When put the external sd card, the system start to use this card instead of the internal, and the apps which are installed on internal sd card are no longer be installed.
Therefore, you need to copy them from internal sd to external sd.
You need to copy the folders .android_secure and Android(if exists), and also Data(if exists too) from HWUserData folder to external sd' s root directory.
I think this will solve your problem. If this works, you can after delete these folders from internal sd.
It worked! Thank you very much! Glad i didnt have to reinstall all my applications again....

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