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[Nandroid] Mobile Network Sharing 2.1

I'm using DC v1 right now and there is no MNS (Mobile Network Sharing) as of now, so I have made a nand img for you all of the last rom that I used that had MNS working 100%.
I use this ONLY when I need to tether... which is often lol because I live on campus at the University of Miami.
I flashed Flipz's 2.1 v1.8-7 Eclair (which has working MNS) that I had lying around.
Stripped it for JUST tethering, got rid of Sprint crap & the works.
Includes,
Wireless Tether
&
NetCounter. Since there is no display on how much data/wifi you are using, NetCounter is a *free* program on the market that will tell you.
THIS IS A NANDROID IMAGE. DO NOT FLASH AS A .ZIP!!!!!
I am not responsible if this screws anything up. I just posted my nand image.
UNZIP FILE AND PUT FOLDER "2.1_Eclair_Tether" ON YOU SDCARD UNDER:
nandroid > Your serial # >
THEN APPLY LIKE A NORMAL NAND RESTORE.
I have never shared a Nandriod image before, so not even sure if it will work. I DID NOT sign into anything after flashing (google, market, gmail, facebook...) so it is completely stock.
Anyone willing to try this nand restore?
Just trying to help out those who miss MNS.
Also, post your results, would like to know if sharing nandroid backups could be convenient.
DOWNLOADS:
Nandroid img for tethering

MNS works in DarchLegend.

gomorrah said:
MNS works in DarchLegend.
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Well then...
For everyone using DC and doesn't want to switch to DarchLegend, not that it's bad, just not wanting to make a big switch.

Ok, well if no one wants to try....
I have a question: Is it even possible to share unlinked Nandroid images from phone to phone?? that's sort of why this is here too, to figure that out.

regaw_leinad said:
Ok, well if no one wants to try....
I have a question: Is it even possible to share unlinked Nandroid images from phone to phone?? that's sort of why this is here too, to figure that out.
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I flashed an old Nandroid backup onto a replacement phone (different serial, obviously) and it worked fine. Only thing that I had to do afterwards was clear the cache on Gmail for some reason, though I don't think it was related to flashing between different phones since others in the forums have reported the same issue.
Oh...and I'm using EasyTether Lite that I'd downloaded from the market a while back. Works great. I hear that the latest version has some additional limitations though...such as no https sites.

I'm using DC 2.1 and my MNS works fine.
Start up wireless tether, connect with laptop or whatever, disable mobile network, enable mobile network, wireless tether works perfect.
Its a bug, but that is the fix. Only need to do it once I believe.

MrTrip said:
I'm using DC 2.1 and my MNS works fine.
Start up wireless tether, connect with laptop or whatever, disable mobile network, enable mobile network, wireless tether works perfect.
Its a bug, but that is the fix. Only need to do it once I believe.
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Wireless tether and MNS are different things...
MNS is built in USB tethering
My wireless tether on the other hand works great lol

regaw_leinad said:
Wireless tether and MNS are different things...
MNS is built in USB tethering
My wireless tether on the other hand works great lol
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Oh, there was a fix for this posted in the DC thread I believe.

MrTrip said:
Oh, there was a fix for this posted in the DC thread I believe.
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the fix being download Easy tether Lite... yeah... no lol
MNS is built into the kernel, and it's not in the kernel on DC v1, and i don't know if he plans on doing it.

regaw_leinad said:
the fix being download Easy tether Lite... yeah... no lol
MNS is built into the kernel, and it's not in the kernel on DC v1, and i don't know if he plans on doing it.
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No no, there was a fix I saw that was not downloading a third party app. I'm sorry I can't remember where it is, but if I find it again I'll post it here asap.

MrTrip said:
No no, there was a fix I saw that was not downloading a third party app. I'm sorry I can't remember where it is, but if I find it again I'll post it here asap.
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oh ok, please when you find it then...

regaw_leinad said:
oh ok, please when you find it then...
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I'm positive now it was in my MSL thread. I wanted my MSL to change my SIC to 0, and somebody posted how to get it with CDMA workshop etc, well it just went poof, but a sprint employee here at xda helped me get my MSL (Thanks again!), but they were arguing why somebody needed an MSL, and somebody posted about how he used it blah blah fixed tethering.

MrTrip said:
I'm positive now it was in my MSL thread. I wanted my MSL to change my SIC to 0, and somebody posted how to get it with CDMA workshop etc, well it just went poof, but a sprint employee here at xda helped me get my MSL (Thanks again!), but they were arguing why somebody needed an MSL, and somebody posted about how he used it blah blah fixed tethering.
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Darn, well if that same person reads this... care to share how?

Can you share the img file again ? Because the download link doesn't work.

wen1012 said:
Can you share the img file again ? Because the download link doesn't work.
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yeah, sorry I re-arranged my dropbox.
it's up now
let me know if it works, and how the nand image works on your phone

MrTrip said:
I'm positive now it was in my MSL thread. I wanted my MSL to change my SIC to 0, and somebody posted how to get it with CDMA workshop etc, well it just went poof, but a sprint employee here at xda helped me get my MSL (Thanks again!), but they were arguing why somebody needed an MSL, and somebody posted about how he used it blah blah fixed tethering.
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I'm anxious to see this too. I remember working on my Hero back when tethering on 1.5 discussions were happening, and really the only thing you could do in the CDMA Workshop (I think that's the name of it) was change your email address used as your id to the network from the one that's using PAM to mimic what was being sent during normal data usage. I think in the PAM communication was set blank, and the normal one was set to your id. It didn't work at all actually. It seemed that something else was built into the Android/Sprint stuff in Android that made that impossible. This is basically what you did, albeit through WindowsMobile's registry, to accomplish the same result in windows mobile.
I think in this instance, it's the other way around. Meaning that we have to get around it from a software standpoint so that it doesn't access the Sprint validation to determine whether to use PAM (Phone as Modem) line or normal line (even though it's just an id.)
This is what MNS accomplishes, it gets around that by appearing as normal data, and doesn't cause our Hero to throw error 67 data failure messages.
I may be completely off, but sounds feasible right?

kmartburrito said:
I'm anxious to see this too. I remember working on my Hero back when tethering on 1.5 discussions were happening, and really the only thing you could do in the CDMA Workshop (I think that's the name of it) was change your email address used as your id to the network from the one that's using PAM to mimic what was being sent during normal data usage. I think in the PAM communication was set blank, and the normal one was set to your id. It didn't work at all actually. It seemed that something else was built into the Android/Sprint stuff in Android that made that impossible. This is basically what you did, albeit through WindowsMobile's registry, to accomplish the same result in windows mobile.
I think in this instance, it's the other way around. Meaning that we have to get around it from a software standpoint so that it doesn't access the Sprint validation to determine whether to use PAM (Phone as Modem) line or normal line (even though it's just an id.)
This is what MNS accomplishes, it gets around that by appearing as normal data, and doesn't cause our Hero to throw error 67 data failure messages.
I may be completely off, but sounds feasible right?
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Yeah, that and that the option isn't even cooked into Damageless' ROM
I hope he releases v1.2 or 2 with MNS.
I know Darch's rom has working mns, but I like DC a lot. Until then, I'll use my nand backup

Tethering built into 2.1 RUU for the Sprint Hero has

Hey guys I rarely, if ever, post anything, but I made a discovery yesterday that I just tested and wanted to let everyone in on it. I have the **Leaked** but now **Official** "RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.27.651.5_R_signed_release" installed on my phone. My phone had not been rooted and I decided to upgraded from 1.5 to 2.1 yesterday (just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger sooner). While I molesting the new features I went to mount the phone as a disk drive and noticed there were some additional options. Once you plug in the USB into the phone, access the pull-down menu from the status bar and press "Charge Only". You will be greeted with another menu that, among other things, has an option for "Internet Sharing" select this and the phone will install some software on your computer. After that your computer will be able to utilize your phone as a modem. Now I haven't tried this over just a 3G connection as I live out in the country and my service is terrrrrible out here, but what I was able to confirm is that this works over WiFi with no problems. I turned off the Wifi card on my laptop and enabled the Wifi on the phone. A few moments later I got the connection indicator on my laptop (Windows Vista) and away we go. I posted this using the connection. Can anyone confirm this works over 3G?
Screen shots posted below. (Sorry about the blurry pics, I don't have the steadiest hands)

did you update with the RUU?
FYI, this is not "wifi" tethering, it's "wired" tethering.
good to know internet sharing was in the final!

If I understand your question correctly, yeah I updated with the RUU but I wasn't really interested in rooting the phone.

Yes it works, but you need to change your PRI

tstack77 said:
Yes it works, but you need to change your PRI
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In other words, no it does not work if you ran the RUU. You would have to be rooted, flash an Eris based ROM, and then update using the SprintUpdate2.zip Damageless posted.

abcdfv said:
In other words, no it does not work if you ran the RUU. You would have to be rooted, flash an Eris based ROM, and then update using the SprintUpdate2.zip Damageless posted.
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I was really hoping to teach the lad to search (twas his first post )

tstack77 said:
I was really hoping to teach the lad to search (twas his first post )
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Aside from "Flashing an Eris ROM breaks your PRI" he wouldn't find much. Sometimes you just gotta let it slide and lend a hand.

Are you guys talking about the same thing he is? He said he ran the RUU and is not rooted. He said he doesn't get good 3g where he lives but what he did was turn off wifi on his laptop and enable it on the phone. He enabled internet sharing and it shared his internet connection with the laptop.
This isn't wifi tethering like we usually describe it, but he is describing a different situation than the one you guys are talking about. Unless I missed something in the posts.

jlem26 said:
Are you guys talking about the same thing he is? He said he ran the RUU and is not rooted. He said he doesn't get good 3g where he lives but what he did was turn off wifi on his laptop and enable it on the phone. He enabled internet sharing and it shared his internet connection with the laptop.
This isn't wifi tethering like we usually describe it, but he is describing a different situation than the one you guys are talking about. Unless I missed something in the posts.
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He was asking if it would work over 3G, as well as wifi.

jlem26 said:
Are you guys talking about the same thing he is? He said he ran the RUU and is not rooted. He said he doesn't get good 3g where he lives but what he did was turn off wifi on his laptop and enable it on the phone. He enabled internet sharing and it shared his internet connection with the laptop.
This isn't wifi tethering like we usually describe it, but he is describing a different situation than the one you guys are talking about. Unless I missed something in the posts.
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You're both right and wrong.
I was assuming that he rooted his phone before updating to 2.1, thought he just made a mistake by adding the ruu part.
And he was asking about 3g tethering since he could do it over wifi.
To answer his question: You cannot tether that way if you ran the official RUU...that is until an exploit is found and you root your phone.
PDAnet will still work for you though

He probably has one of the few Sprint PRI's that allows MNS....bastage.....

Thanks guys, I'll take my laptop to work tomorrow and give it a try with and without PDANet. Thanks for all of the feedback.

What is you PRI number?

Pri version: 2.20_003

I have the same PRI number. How did you get the network sharing to work? Did you download any software?

yeah we need to find out if this new PRI will allow wired tethering, but I don't want to lose root
we need a few people (read: guinea pigs) to test it out

Ok, I got the network sharing via wired tether to work with WIFI. Now if I can get it to work on 3g.
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I tried to use the 3g network and it will not allow you to wire tether. It will keep popping up error 67 which "Data Call Failure". Boo.

I'm currently trying to figure out where exactly the PRI is stored in a ROM, so I can make update.zip's of different PRI's, to allow tethering.

abcdfv said:
I'm currently trying to figure out where exactly the PRI is stored in a ROM, so I can make update.zip's of different PRI's, to allow tethering.
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I've been digging through for a while now, off and on, trying to find this myself. I PM'd flipz and asked, but haven't received a response, but i'm sure he knows how/if this could be done. I'm very interested if you do find something out, let me know!

registeredmale said:
Hey guys I rarely, if ever, post anything, but I made a discovery yesterday that I just tested and wanted to let everyone in on it. I have the **Leaked** but now **Official** "RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.27.651.5_R_signed_release" installed on my phone. My phone had not been rooted and I decided to upgraded from 1.5 to 2.1 yesterday (just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger sooner). While I molesting the new features I went to mount the phone as a disk drive and noticed there were some additional options. Once you plug in the USB into the phone, access the pull-down menu from the status bar and press "Charge Only". You will be greeted with another menu that, among other things, has an option for "Internet Sharing" select this and the phone will install some software on your computer. After that your computer will be able to utilize your phone as a modem. Now I haven't tried this over just a 3G connection as I live out in the country and my service is terrrrrible out here, but what I was able to confirm is that this works over WiFi with no problems. I turned off the Wifi card on my laptop and enabled the Wifi on the phone. A few moments later I got the connection indicator on my laptop (Windows Vista) and away we go. I posted this using the connection. Can anyone confirm this works over 3G?
Screen shots posted below. (Sorry about the blurry pics, I don't have the steadiest hands)
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The hero has always been able to share wifi using the usb tether. The 3G sharing will be disabled for you as always. Sorry to burst your bubble this is not something new. In fact, way back before we had root you could use a trick to tether the 3G over usb by turning off mobile network and then enabling the MNS while turning the mobile network back on. It was just a bug that someone found to bypass the 3G sharing lockout. After we got root no one really needed that trick anymore.

Android WiFi Tether/Hotspot (for root users) now supported by the EVO 4G!!

The best WiFi/BT tether/hotspot app out there has just added support for the EVO 4G about half an hour ago. Of course, root is required but it's just one click away with unrevoked.
Forget Sprint's $30 a month tether - this one is free and supported by the community.
This is why I love Android.
All info here: Rooted EVO 4G Users Can Now Enjoy Unlimited Free WiFi/Bluetooth Tether (Hotspot) As Android-wifi-tether App Adds Support For EVO

I was just about to post this, but you beat me to it. I'm rockin this right now. Works great!! Not in 4G coverage currently, but I assume that works the same. Thanks to whoever wrote this!!
Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk

Very cool!
I was hoping not to root too quick and start that whole obsession again but...

Yes and y'all will be happy to hear it doesn't appear the evo gets nearly as hot as the hero when running it which is a bigggg plus to me no worries of frying my radio lol

sweet tyvm

SilverStone,
Was your device already rooted or did you use the "unrevoked" apk that was available? Many wrote no success with the "unrevoked" program.
Thanks!

I actually need USB tethering. Does this have it included or do I need another app?

Works great! If only I can figure out this battery issue.

It works like a champ. Wayyy better speeds on 4G.

Doesn't work on toast's rom

jigglywiggly said:
Doesn't work on toast's rom
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Must be why it won't start on my phone...

chazglenn3 said:
Must be why it won't start on my phone...
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If it's a separate ROM, it might not work as it relies on a different WiFi driver (one for access point), which is located somewhere in the ROM. If toast's doesn't have it, then it won't work.
Perhaps toast can put the driver back to where it is on the stock ROM and update his ROM.

Yeah.. doesn't work. I've tried.
I can get it to install, SuperUser permissions from Unrevoked run and I allow it etc.. all is well in the "root" department however... It doesn't show upon any wireless radar anywhere.
At least it runs, was on toasts rom and had to wipe and start from scratch to get unrevoked back on. Wouldn't start on Toasts at all.
So anyway, this doesn't actually do any good if you can't see it to connect to it. :/

VoXHTC said:
Yeah.. doesn't work. I've tried.
I can get it to install, SuperUser permissions from Unrevoked run and I allow it etc.. all is well in the "root" department however... It doesn't show upon any wireless radar anywhere.
At least it runs, was on toasts rom and had to wipe and start from scratch to get unrevoked back on. Wouldn't start on Toasts at all.
So anyway, this doesn't actually do any good if you can't see it to connect to it. :/
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Can you try restarting? If that doesn't help, can you try the method in ticket comment #59?

Archon810 said:
Can you try restarting? If that doesn't help, can you try the method in ticket comment #59?
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Restarting didn't work.
Tried method #59 and it went smoothly except I'm still not getting it to show up on HTC Hero. I can all the other networks just not my Evo's
I have pre14 installed.

Have wifi tether working fine on a laptop, however.. my samsung moment does not see the evo as an access point anyone test that hotspot actually works or can it only tether 1 device?
attempting this with 4g turned off(not avail in my area yet)

Galiot said:
Have wifi tether working fine on a laptop, however.. my samsung moment does not see the evo as an access point anyone test that hotspot actually works or can it only tether 1 device?
attempting this with 4g turned off(not avail in my area yet)
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Great question. I has assumed that wifi tether = sprint "hot spot" I did a quick test with two laptops and was not able to connect the second. Not a conclusive test, because it's late and I'm tired. I'll play more tomorrow and post back.

Mine is working on the stock rom (after the OTA) and with the unrevoked .apk installed.....
Like the temp display up there too....nice!!!

Galiot said:
Have wifi tether working fine on a laptop, however.. my samsung moment does not see the evo as an access point anyone test that hotspot actually works or can it only tether 1 device?
attempting this with 4g turned off(not avail in my area yet)
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Is your moment on 1.5?? I know Android doesn't like Peer-To-Peer connections.

moment is on 2.1, believe its because they dont support the ad-hoc setup.. sprints hotspot is actually turning on a router i believe

sprint hot spot is free?

Hey everyone,
im new to the android OS. i rooted the phone and today i decided to mess with the sprint hot spot feature. i wasnt prompt any error codes or have any fee agreement pop up. i simply click activate and bamm, wifi. so the question is, would i be charge the $30 since nothing was prompt or is it a sneaky thing sprint do and bill me later? or maybe it was a feature one click root did. thanks for the answer. i tried to search but couldnt find a solid answer.

I'd be careful with that! Might be getting that $30 fee added on as a surprise. If you are rooted, you don't need hotspot, just download Wifi tether from the market. it's free for sure. no surprises!

I also second that, I would stay away from the Orig Sprint Hotspot feature if you are not paying for it. Dont be surprise if you see a $30 charge on the bill, like stated above from jirafabo just root like you did already and use the wifi tether program if you really need some sort of wifi tethering. It operates on the "N" 802.11 network so as long as your laptop can see a "N" network you can connect.

alrighty. by any chance anyone figure out how to make the phone tether over usb by using the option already available once plugged in? i dont have wireless N and just want a one click system.

I don't think wifi tether uses N. It should work with the usual a//b/g channels
Sent from my Epic 4G

you can try wifi tether and see if you dont broadcast on the "n" network, but when I go over the wifi icon on the laptop the epic is running radio 802.11n adhoc network.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756804 <----now you can install this, it run on the 802.11g radio infrastrucrture mode. This is what I use since my companys laptop will not connect to wifi adhoc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803335 <-----found this for you, it is a kernel what will allow usb tethering if you will like to try.

van48 said:
Hey everyone,
im new to the android OS. i rooted the phone and today i decided to mess with the sprint hot spot feature. i wasnt prompt any error codes or have any fee agreement pop up. i simply click activate and bamm, wifi. so the question is, would i be charge the $30 since nothing was prompt or is it a sneaky thing sprint do and bill me later? or maybe it was a feature one click root did. thanks for the answer. i tried to search but couldnt find a solid answer.
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Did you try using it as a hotspot? Mine starts up without any prompts and I can see if from the computer but I can't get on the internet. I noticed that as soon as I activate the hotspot it kills the 3g signal. I assumed this was Sprints way of protecting it. I didn't think it was a problem on my end.

I have been using mine rooted for a while with the wireless tether app 2.0.9pre5 (i think). I think this is just because of the signal quality i'm getting, but my 3G speeds are only around .5mbps down and .3mbps up (if i'm lucky, lol). Anyone else getting anything faster? I have only been on sprint for a couple months now and prior to that, i had AT&T, which seemed a bit faster. I realize there are differences between the networks, but i would have figured EVDO to be nearly the same speed.

van48 said:
alrighty. by any chance anyone figure out how to make the phone tether over usb by using the option already available once plugged in? i dont have wireless N and just want a one click system.
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The built in USB tether doesn't work for me (I don't have the PAM/hot spot add on).
But I use Easy Tether for USB tethering. It works fine. Google it.
I'm on basic data plan and not rooted.

Unknown Zone said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756804 <----now you can install this, it run on the 802.11g radio infrastrucrture mode. This is what I use since my companys laptop will not connect to wifi adhoc.
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Okay, just installed this on the MixUp kernel, and it works like a charm.
Wifi Tether is a nice app, but the solution above is hands-down superior and the way to go. Very simple, works in infrastructure mode so it will act as an AP for anything, and is nicely integrated in with the rest of the software through the settings panel.
This is DA BOMB!
One question from a noob, though: I applied this MOD through clockworkrecovery, the same way I flashed the MixUp kernel. This didn't replace the kernel or anything, right? I'm not running a different kernel now, am I?

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One question from a noob, though: I applied this MOD through clockworkrecovery, the same way I flashed the MixUp kernel. This didn't replace the kernel or anything, right? I'm not running a different kernel now, am I?
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No it didn't...recovery flashing = just replacing the files in the zip to the ones in your system...in this case it replaced only the MobileAP.apk and a few other files..and thats it. The kernel should be fine.

Foxfi / Pda net

Does anyone know if the usb/ or hotspot of foxfi/pda net or other non native teathering apps work on the z force droid? ive been on unlocked and rooted phones for a while but i'm just not seeing anything that i want. i bought a oneplus 3 then found out it didn't have the lte bands for verizion. derp. but i think id go back to a locked phone for this modular deal as long as i could still teather with pda net. cuz i ant pay'n no 30 bucks for Verizon to "unlock" the capability of my phone. pffffffftttttttttt.
just curious if anyone knows or could check

FoxFi/PDA works fine over bluetooth.

what about usb or wifi?

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what about usb or wifi?
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Both bluetooth and USB work, but WiFi requires a mobile hotspot plan (which I don't have, so I can't test).

If you are the only one on your plan, go prepaid, I dont pay extra and the stock tethering under settings works just fine

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Both bluetooth and USB work, but WiFi requires a mobile hotspot plan (which I don't have, so I can't test).
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ty.
and i've got unlimited so thats why

beanman97 said:
Does anyone know if the usb/ or hotspot of foxfi/pda net or other non native teathering apps work on the z force droid? ive been on unlocked and rooted phones for a while but i'm just not seeing anything that i want. i bought a oneplus 3 then found out it didn't have the lte bands for verizion. derp. but i think id go back to a locked phone for this modular deal as long as i could still teather with pda net. cuz i ant pay'n no 30 bucks for Verizon to "unlock" the capability of my phone. pffffffftttttttttt.
just curious if anyone knows or could check
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I searched for the same, tried a number of apps, tried all of these recommended root apps & protocols ended up with the same disappointing result. Most of it just didn't work or no one could provide the necessary tools in proper sequential steps.
With you phone powered on remove your sim card. Go to Mobile hot spot & tethering, activate blue tooth tethering.wait a few minutes put your sim back in. you should now be able to pair devices with your phone and share its internet connection..

ronin71 said:
I searched for the same, tried a number of apps, tried all of these recommended root apps & protocols ended up with the same disappointing result. Most of it just didn't work or no one could provide the necessary tools in proper sequential steps.
With you phone powered on remove your sim card. Go to Mobile hot spot & tethering, activate blue tooth tethering.wait a few minutes put your sim back in. you should now be able to pair devices with your phone and share its internet connection..
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Found this in the other threads regarding hotspot. If you download "Network Signal Refresher Lite" from 8JAPPS in the playstore you can use native tethering. Just open the app and hit refresh and the moment you lose service drag down the quick tiles and tap the hotspot button. Been using this on my Moto Z Droid for the past few days and it works perfectly

mcp2009 said:
Found this in the other threads regarding hotspot. If you download "Network Signal Refresher Lite" from 8JAPPS in the playstore you can use native tethering. Just open the app and hit refresh and the moment you lose service drag down the quick tiles and tap the hotspot button. Been using this on my Moto Z Droid for the past few days and it works perfectly
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Great tip. works like a charm. and i see why, its so simple. if ya wanted something similar without downloading the app id imagine pulling your sim or anything that pops the radio off for a few so it can't call home and ask for permission.

beanman97 said:
Great tip. works like a charm. and i see why, its so simple. if ya wanted something similar without downloading the app id imagine pulling your sim or anything that pops the radio off for a few so it can't call home and ask for permission.
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Looks like it stopped working for me on Nougat. Might try the sim method

mcp2009 said:
Looks like it stopped working for me on Nougat. Might try the sim method
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hum didn't even know it was out. still on marshmallow, thanks for the heads up

beanman97 said:
Does anyone know if the usb/ or hotspot of foxfi/pda net or other non native teathering apps work on the z force droid? ive been on unlocked and rooted phones for a while but i'm just not seeing anything that i want. i bought a oneplus 3 then found out it didn't have the lte bands for verizion. derp. but i think id go back to a locked phone for this modular deal as long as i could still teather with pda net. cuz i ant pay'n no 30 bucks for Verizon to "unlock" the capability of my phone. pffffffftttttttttt.
just curious if anyone knows or could check
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Use Network signal refresher

Does anyone know of any workarounds? Network Signal Refresher stopped working for me with Nougat as well.

Yesterday they had an update for Network Signal Lite to version 5.0. Didnt work for me.
Today they have another update to version 5.1 hoping it fixes the issue. Just figured I would share.

i take it popping the sim doesn't work as well then. seams as if they might have closed the "if not able to call home let hotspot on anyway" bug then.

beanman97 said:
i take it popping the sim doesn't work as well then. seams as if they might have closed the "if not able to call home let hotspot on anyway" bug then.
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Popping the sim card does indeed work just hit the hotspot icon in the quick settings right after you reinsert it. Been doing since the first day nougat came out and it works every time.

beanman97 said:
i take it popping the sim doesn't work as well then. seams as if they might have closed the "if not able to call home let hotspot on anyway" bug then.
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Rebel0404 said:
Popping the sim card does indeed work just hit the hotspot icon in the quick settings right after you reinsert it. Been doing since the first day nougat came out and it works every time.
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I will second this. Since NSL does not work I have been using sim card and it works everytime.

Rebel0404 said:
Popping the sim card does indeed work just hit the hotspot icon in the quick settings right after you reinsert it. Been doing since the first day nougat came out and it works every time.
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I've been doing this, and it does work, but I'm finding it turns itself off after a short time - are you seeing this as well?