Database Users

2.1 and YOU

I'm posting this up here so everyone can see it and doesn't have to go through threads to see it.
If this 2.1 update is legit, there is a way to grab the OTA update. \
Essentially what you will need to do is decline the update when your phone asks you about it.
Run this command on your computer with the SDK installed and adb set up:
Code:
adb -d logcat UpdateReceiver:I CheckinService:I *:S
Post the link that is returned.
As a note - I'll throw this in my signature for now as well.
2.1 will be difficult if not impossible to downgrade from. If you upgrade, and we find root on 1.5, you are out of luck if the exploit has been patched. I think we *should* be able to downgrade the phone, but I also think that it *will* require some technical skills. If you lack these skills, realize you *WILL NOT* get root if we find an exploit that has been patched in 2.1 but not in 1.5.
Simply put: I have every intention of upgrading my phone when this update hits it. But, I also have every intention of finding a way to downgrade it afterwards and keep working on root with 1.5. Then, I'll post a walkthrough for downgrading. More than likely it will involve a goldcard (which sucks to make kind of).
Enjoy, and thanks! Post that link if you get an OTA alert!

so this will give us the 2.1 update? question is, will it have the upgraded sense ui? i read on another post not from this site that eris users who upgraded to 2.1 through a mishap with verizon had their phone completely useless.

if your phone has the option to update, that command will print out a URL of where the OTA update file is located. It should be something like clients.android.google.com/updates/desirec/desirec-ota.(6random numbers).(8 random hex).zip. That will allow the rest of us to get the update before its pushed to our devices.

I have an extra eris, so messege me if you need to try something out. I have Ubuntu installed already.

I'll get that thing up here IF it actually pops. Has VZW been able to clear up if 2.1 is indeed a myth or truth?

My phone just randomly reset. I'm calling VZW as we speak. I'll see what is going on while I'm on the phone with them.

My phone just randomly reset as well. But no update

Verizon just let me know that the current version installed on our phones is 1.17.605.1. I'm being transferred to tech support to fix a network connnection problem I've been having, but after that I'll make sure to ask about the 2.1 update.
Thanks!

zifnab06 said:
Verizon just let me know that the current version installed on our phones is 1.17.605.1. I'm being transferred to tech support to fix a network connnection problem I've been having, but after that I'll make sure to ask about the 2.1 update.
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Yeah i was having network issues yesturday actually. i did a hard reset twice. the internet was working but i couldnt make phone calls or send texts. called verizon as soon as i got home, and they told me there was an issue with the services. had me do some weird stuff but i didnt write it down =/

2.1 from Verizon:
So, from the mouth of the dragon, verizon told me that "I know the update is coming *soon*, but no official date has been set yet". The Tech Support rep told me that most of the posts I've probably seen online have been fake (sorry, but I actually believe most of them, I want the leaked copy if there is one, or the OTA if it does come out). So, simply put, I'd assume you WILL NOT be getting an OTA in the next few days. But, soon for verizon is better than "soon" for Blizzard (Blizzard's definition of soon is sometime between now and the end of the universe, preferably closer to the now side).
Thanks!

zifnab06 said:
2.1 from Verizon:
So, from the mouth of the dragon, verizon told me that "I know the update is coming *soon*, but no official date has been set yet". The Tech Support rep told me that most of the posts I've probably seen online have been fake (sorry, but I actually believe most of them, I want the leaked copy if there is one, or the OTA if it does come out). So, simply put, I'd assume you WILL NOT be getting an OTA in the next few days. But, soon for verizon is better than "soon" for Blizzard (Blizzard's definition of soon is sometime between now and the end of the universe, preferably closer to the now side).
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if we were relying on blizzard we wouldnt get 2.1 till 2020

I'm just glad we are getting it!
And at least we know its coming between now and the end of march.

Framework43 said:
I'm just glad we are getting it!
And at least we know its coming between now and the end of march.
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My prediction is you guys will get 2.1 on January 1st, 2012... Which sucks, because that's precisely the time when the world is going to end. So you guys are kind of SOL if i'm right.
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PS... Framework43 McDonalds might sue you over your sig. If they do, just say you got fat by eating too many happy meals, and you should be okay.

apreichner said:
My prediction is you guys will get 2.1 on January 1st, 2012... Which sucks, because that's precisely the time when the world is going to end. So you guys are kind of SOL if i'm right.
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PS... Framework43 McDonalds might sue you over your sig. If they do, just say you got fat by eating too many happy meals, and you should be okay.
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LMAO. To bad they would probably ask for a picture. That shouldn't be so hard with all the fat internet pictures
Nah, I think we will get our update soon.

apreichner said:
My prediction is you guys will get 2.1 on January 1st, 2012... Which sucks, because that's precisely the time when the world is going to end. So you guys are kind of SOL if i'm right.
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PS... Framework43 McDonalds might sue you over your sig. If they do, just say you got fat by eating too many happy meals, and you should be okay.
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December 20th 2012. Just to point out (12-20-20-12)

I got to see an Eris running 2.1 with Sense and some of its neat new enhancements. I also got to see why it's not released yet. Some of the defects aren't too nice. If you manage to get a copy of the update, I would not use it on a device you use actively.
Wait until release. There's a reason it's not being pushed, yet. I can get it now, if I wanted, but it even scares me The person who showed me his device is a developer.
I have no release date. As far as I know, there isn't one, yet. Just "any day now."

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December 20th 2012. Just to point out (12-20-20-12)
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Lol my bad, so you guys might not be hosed afterall!!!!!

nimdae said:
I got to see an Eris running 2.1 with Sense and some of its neat new enhancements. I also got to see why it's not released yet. Some of the defects aren't too nice. If you manage to get a copy of the update, I would not use it on a device you use actively.
Wait until release. There's a reason it's not being pushed, yet. I can get it now, if I wanted, but it even scares me The person who showed me his device is a developer.
I have no release date. As far as I know, there isn't one, yet. Just "any day now."
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Get it! You could give it to the dev team and they could tell if people on 2.1 could root! Plus... somebody (me) might not care (me) if it is somewhat unstable (me). LOL

zifnab06 said:
if your phone has the option to update, that command will print out a URL of where the OTA update file is located. It should be something like clients.android.google.com/updates/desirec/desirec-ota.(6random numbers).(8 random hex).zip. That will allow the rest of us to get the update before its pushed to our devices.
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Could you just go to the parent directory in a web browser to see all of the files in the folder? I guess I will try it.

zifnab06 said:
December 20th 2012. Just to point out (12-20-20-12)
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You are wrong also. It's December 21, 2012. There is no relation to the Gregorian calendar date that determines it.

[Update] 2.2 update coming confirmed

I went into my local tmobile store yesterday in hope of returning my vibrant because of the GPS issue. The employees (2 of them) confirmed to me that the update will come next week with the fix for the GPS issues. They said it'll be along with 2.2 update. I wrapped up my vibrant and bust out of the store as quickly as I went in.. seems like good news to all of us vibrant users. Now its a waiting game... if the update doesn't come next week ill be returning this vibrant for sure.
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That's not exactly "Confirmed" chances are that you'll probably be returning that Vibrant next week. Otherwise the Fascinate would probably be shipping with 2.2 and as far as I'm concerned none of the leaked documentation has indicated that it will.

I want to believe you. I really do.
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That is good news. Btw, is the gps problem that bad for you to want to return the phone?
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Well, T-Mobile has already confirmed an update in September but I doubt it would be next week. I also doubt that employee knows something that the rest of the world doesn't.

The tmobile rep I talked to on the phone yesterday said the GPS update would be separate from the 2.2 froyo release and should be out in the first 2 weeks of sept and available as an OTA

I went in acting as if i'm just a normal user that doesn't know anything about xda developers or any android website.. (if they actually looked at my phone it has superuser app installed and all that ****, i'll be rejected for sure) on of the guy told me first that the update should fix that and it is a software problem (sigh, i knew that) and he asked me have i read all those on internet and i just simply said NO. he then said the update is gonna fix the GPS issue. I acted more stupid by asking him "do i have to get anything to get an update". he said it'll be rolled out over the air. then another employee, the girl jump into the conversation and asked me about the phone blah blah blah, and she said that the update's coming next week. BTW the GPS is not really a big problem here since i don't really use it.. i tried to return the phone becuz i was thinking i should wait for the G2, i just bought vibrant so far pretty good, applied lag fix and i always get 2200+ on quadrant..
PS. there's no reason for me to lie and speculate things, i just say things that i experienced..

Are you saying you dont think it will come next week, or are you saying not at all? Cuz its definitely getting 2.2, im just not expecting it next week...
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mr2t32 said:
That is good news. Btw, is the gps problem that bad for you to want to return the phone?
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I know it's bad enough for me to want to return mine if the fix doesn't work. The GPS on this phone is pretty bad as is. My TouchPro 2 was MUCH better. Both for lock times and keeping the signal.
Driving around in 3 major cities on clear sky days, my Vibrant loses it's GPS signal pretty much every time. Sometimes it resumes GPS after a few seconds, sometimes it takes a few minutes or never regains GPS lock. It's inconsistent to say the least.
I'm using Copilot Live and Google Maps on both the TouchPro 2 and the Vibrant. The Vibrant fails with either software.
PS: This is my second Vibrant. The first one had the same issues. I've tried various GPS fixes, but most if not all cause Google Maps to completely lock on my phone. I have to reset the phone to get it working again.

the galaxy s line will definitely be getting 2.2 at some point. I highly doubt it will be next week though. give samsung a little time to drop the fascinate at least.
oh and t mobile reps know absolutely nothing that we don't, so don't take their word on things like this before they're confirmed. they just want you to buy phones/keep your phone.
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jaker.the.skater said:
the galaxy s line will definitely be getting 2.2 at some point. I highly doubt it will be next week though. give samsung a little time to drop the fascinate at least.
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given that the galaxy s line is sold worldwide. i hope that samsung wouldn't mess this one up. it makes me wonder cuz thinking of "Samsung Rolled out 2.2 update really fast" will make them look a LOT better after the "behold" epic fail. I expect the update but i have until the 16th to return since i live in california and i get 30days window, so i might just wait till the 15th (can't say that i don't give them any chance). if the update doesn't come, i'll return and i believe many more will do the same if they still can.. the G2 is coming out and it looks like it'll be pretty advance. Don't we all just love the phone that are Top of the line without us having to modify it...

@op, this should be in general. has zero to do with development, as it's more just a discussion

I spoke to my local t-mobile store in nyc, she openly said by end of september.

So lets see..... if Samsung release the update and tmobile hold it for some reason and not OTA it yet. Would it really hurt their sales in the us? And if Samsung taking too long to release the update.. would it hurt their sales worldwide ? Anyway we're all just the user who hope one day we'll wake up, picked up our phone and see the update screen waiting for us to press yes. So lets hope that our manufacturer and carrier wouldn't turn us away by doing it "too late" .. and we shall see
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There has been no official internal memo about the release of 2.2. The reps are just speculating and telling you what you want to hear so you don't return your phone.
Ever since Google announced 1.5 people have been calling or going into stores asking about updates. Frankly we get asked constantly and are tired of getting asked. We give a generic response like "in a few weeks" just so you will stop asking. Once we know you will know and it will be all over tech blogs.
And when there is a release date not everyone will get it at the same time. OTAs roll out in groups so you might not even get 2.2 till October if you wait for the OTA.

speoples20 said:
There has been no official internal memo about the release of 2.2. The reps are just speculating and telling you what you want to hear so you don't return your phone.
Ever since Google announced 1.5 people have been calling or going into stores asking about updates. Frankly we get asked constantly and are tired of getting asked. We give a generic response like "in a few weeks" just so you will stop asking. Once we know you will know and it will be all over tech blogs.
And when there is a release date not everyone will get it at the same time. OTAs roll out in groups so you might not even get 2.2 till October if you wait for the OTA.
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Dead on right there.. The only thing our internal memos have said is Samsung has committed to a September release date for the GPS Fix and rumoured September release date for froyo. All that means is they will start pushing a update in September. To comply with this then can start pushing it September 30th. If your waiting for a update to keep you from returning the phone then just return it now and get it after the update comes out.

NexVision said:
Dead on right there.. The only thing our internal memos have said is Samsung has committed to a September release date for the GPS Fix and rumoured September release date for froyo. All that means is they will start pushing a update in September. To comply with this then can start pushing it September 30th. If your waiting for a update to keep you from returning the phone then just return it now and get it after the update comes out.
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Thanks for the advice . I guess I'll return it and use my HD2 with "android " rom for now.
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Yeah the people at the Tmo store will tell you anything to keep you as a customer... At one of my previous retail jobs I was told to lie twice a day if possible, just to get me in the mode if I had to bc I didnt know something.. Its their job to sell you something, if it happens to be a lie, so be it...

T-Mobile announces the same updates to employees as they do to the public.
Sometimes the public finds out about the updates before the employees.
If T-Mobile hasn't announced it somewhere, the employee is making it up.

speoples20 said:
There has been no official internal memo about the release of 2.2. The reps are just speculating and telling you what you want to hear so you don't return your phone.
Ever since Google announced 1.5 people have been calling or going into stores asking about updates. Frankly we get asked constantly and are tired of getting asked. We give a generic response like "in a few weeks" just so you will stop asking. Once we know you will know and it will be all over tech blogs.
And when there is a release date not everyone will get it at the same time. OTAs roll out in groups so you might not even get 2.2 till October if you wait for the OTA.
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To a extent, it is true but if you're tech savvy that is incorrect. When a person gets a OTA, the person can get the link of where the OTA is located and post it up. When this is posted, anybody can MANUALLY push the update to their phone. It doesn't even require root, I'd assume it would be to rename to update.zip and boot into recovery and press reinstall packages (Non-Clockwork).
This is how it was during 1.5 -> 1.6 for the G1 and other phones.

[Q] OTA update location and time/date?

When you get the JI6 ota update please just post your Location (city,state) and the time/date you got it.
This will give us a feel how the update is rolling out around the country.
Thanks
Secular

It popped up for me at midnight last night.
Ha! Oops. Forgot some critical data. I'm in Seattle.

and you are WHERE?
cant follow simple instructions.

secularhuman said:
cant follow simple instructions.
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Why not follow the thread that is already made with this with 100's of replies on what time and where people got it? No need for this thread.

Because there are 100s of replies to sort thru about other things. I just want to know where and when.

I have seen one from Hawaii receiving the ota today.

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It popped up for me at midnight last night.
Ha! Oops. Forgot some critical data. I'm in Seattle.
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I'm in Seattle and have not gotten the update yet

My brother got the update today early in the morning, but I didn't get anything yet. Everett, wa.
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Not sure what good this will do. It's spread out over the rest of the month. Someone will get it in like Dallas and the guy down the block won't. All you can do is wait just like the past updates from tmo there is no rhyme nor reason to how ppl get it. Now ppl will say why did so and so get it in nyc and not me?

second that, they don't push it in an ordered sequence. it's pretty damn random, they roll it out slow so they don't overload the servers.

False Alarm on Nexus One update.

PS: Sorry to the moderators if this shouldn't be here. Most people hang out on this thread anyways and would be fastest way to confirm/dissolve any issues relating to the update so we don't spam F5 outta the thread. Heh. Leave it here for a while before moving? Thanks.
False alarm by Engadget on the Nexus One getting an update today.
> http://twitter.com/#!/engadget/status/11818477346103296
Reto Meier just tweeted the following smashing out the chance of getting an update today.
"Reto Meier
Not sure where Engadget is getting their reports. The Nexus One OTA isn't happening just yet - should be coming in a few weeks."
Link here > http://twitter.com/#!/retomeier/status/11830023140937728
Back to life terminators. =/
EDIT:
Weird, even BGR reported that the Nexus One is getting OTA's already.
> http://twitter.com/BGR/status/11832387268775936
Any confirmations?
EDIT 2:
False alarm confirmed. Engadget removed the tweet and the post.

Could be just like 2.2 where it went out early to certain press devices.

Update the email conversation:
Friend: Yeah, my buddy already hit me up with it all and screenshots from his N1 running Gingerbreeeeed
Me: What? How is his nexus one running gingerbread and where can I get that?
Me: From a google engineer: http://twitter.com/#!/retomeier/status/11830023140937728 Engadget pulled the story that the gingerbread rollout is happening.
Friend: Buddy's Fwd'd email: Subject: We've got gingerbread Body: Read it and weep! Note not on engadget, Wired, Techcrunch, et. al. yet. (Screenshot in email)
Me: But I think that is just the SDK.
Friend: Possibly - I just e-mailed him and called him a liar, will let you know what he says.
Me: I wonder if he started the hoax inadvertently. If you read about the Nexus One update that was confirmed, but then retracted by Engadget, they say that the email were faked from the SDK. But what if the recipients assumed he meant his Nexus One, when he really meant the SDK.
Friend: Yeah, I forwarded his screenshots to an Engadget editor in chief...hmmmm, oops.

Pretty sure BGR and other sites assume Engadget's source is legit and post as if they are confirming it. Copycats ftl

False alarm has been confirmed.
Engadget just removed the tweet and the post on their site. What a bunch of wussies. Can't even admit they messed up and place an update on the site. Just removed instead.

It seems Engadget have since pulled the story from the site, looks like false alarm indeed!

Already flipped to three different roms and sat here tense for 30minutes wait for the OTA...ugh back to reality...at least i did a nandroid...

ThePatio said:
Already flipped to three different roms and sat here tense for 30minutes wait for the OTA...ugh back to reality...at least i did a nandroid...
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Yeah, they BS'd! Those screen shots are from the SDK page.

LOL........

If the sdk dropped today and the Nexus S is due out on the 16th. I would say its safe to assume that between now and then gingerbread will drop and everyone will get a piece.
Its coming. The word was today was gonna be a big day and it was. Faith reinforced. Have a little patience now and let the process play out.

SBERG117 said:
If the sdk dropped today and the Nexus S is due out on the 16th. I would say its safe to assume that between now and then gingerbread will drop and everyone will get a piece.
Its coming. The word was today was gonna be a big day and it was. Faith reinforced. Have a little patience now and let the process play out.
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+1 bazillion

boo, waiting is for the weak, its all about the OCD pressing of F5

I feel like an addict, jonesing for a fix just out of reach. I want it now!! I'm getting the shakes. Can't wait for a rooted version, and then CM 7 nightlies.

Fuuuuuuu where's my honeycombbbbbb
arhghahfahhghrghrigso
*deathspasmz.*

I even started eating gingersnaps on my break to try and get some gingerbread in me!

Must be hallucinating thought I smelled fresh gingerbread cookies this morning

i need update my nexus one to 2.3!!!!!!!!

More info: EB13 to EC05

While searching through some sprint forums, I came across the admin stating this about those who have EB13:
The official Sprint OTA update is for devices on EB13 and will update your device to EC05. You should receive it by midnight CST.
I know people might think this is crap, but the one thing the admin gave away is the TIME ZONE. Now we know the time zone to base it on to see if it will come true.
Just a thought to get people a little more hopeful.
Here's the source: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/273219

Awesome... i dont see why a member of your status would lie

iSaint said:
Awesome... i dont see why a member of your status would lie
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Thanks. I swear to you I'm not lying.
I mean, my statement is just a theory, of course, based on a Sprint Admin (the one who actually posted the info all about the new update on the Sprint forums), so I'm taking his word for it.
Also, it being CST makes sense since the Sprint Headquarters is in the Midwest. (I think)
That being said, I think that confirms that the update is being run by Sprint, not the Google servers, like some had suggested.

Yep makes alot of sense and explains the texts everyones been getting.
Thanks for posting bro.

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Yep makes alot of sense and explains the texts everyones been getting.
Thanks for posting bro.
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No problem. Since I live in the Midwest, it's easier to keep track of the time
For those who don't live in the Midwest, it is currently 9:00.
Only 3 more hours until we all get EC05, or Sprint had lied
Edit: Holy crap, I think I might be getting it right now O_O
It's checking for the software update, and it's taking way longer than usual. I know it's checking correctly because whenever you check for any update, the little "3G" icon in the notification bar disappears. I'll let it keep loading for a while. *FINGERS CROSSED*
Edit2: False Alarm... (no shocker really)

It's update android, not firmware. It's not coming tonight, it's not available.

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It's update android, not firmware. It's not coming tonight, it's not available.
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Alright, well:
1. You have to click "Update Firmware" and then the System Updates section will show it downloading.
2. It IS available; people on DI18 already have it. Sprint claims EB13 will get it too. Maybe not today, but one can only hope right?
Look, the best way to look at a situation like this is to be optimistic, and that is what I am attempting to do. Sure I might be wrong or get my hopes up, but sometimes the feeling of having the optimism is enough.
So please, don't just make statements like that. I know you weren't intending to bash me or anything, but having that negativity does not help.
Thanks

So odin back to di18 and check for the update to see what happens.
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acer1096xxx said:
Alright, well:
1. You have to click "Update Firmware" and then the System Updates section will show it downloading.
2. It IS available; people on DI18 already have it. Sprint claims EB13 will get it too. Maybe not today, but one can only hope right?
Look, the best way to look at a situation like this is to be optimistic, and that is what I am attempting to do. Sure I might be wrong or get my hopes up, but sometimes the feeling of having the optimism is enough.
So please, don't just make statements like that. I know you weren't intending to bash me or anything, but having that negativity does not help.
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Updating to 05 via 13 IS NOT AVAILABLE AND WILL NOT BE THIS WEEK.
Look at the 13 update, it came out for 18 alone, and then days later was pulled. NOTHING else dropped. Samsung does not give a $hit about current customers, and it's not going to change tonight, or tomorrow for that matter.

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Updating to 05 via 13 IS NOT AVAILABLE AND WILL NOT BE THIS WEEK.
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What are you basing this on?

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What are you basing this on?
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The facts -10char-

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What are you basing this on?
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Agreed. I just checked three forums posted by Sprint admins that confirmed ALL SOFTWARE VERSIONS WILL BE UPGRADED TO EC05 BY END OF TODAY.
Now I agree with you that we may not get it TODAY, but we will get it EVENTUALLY. And @dbpaddler, I would but I have a Mac, and do not feel like wiping my data. Also, I do not want to do the Root method because if I root my phone I want to put ext4/cwm3 on it, not cwm2.5. (I realize I can update, but not worth the hassle in my opinion)
This was just posted today:
UPDATE 3/24/11
: Updates from older versions are now available via OTA. If you are on any of the previous releases (not including the leaked DK28 release), you will receive a notification to update...still following
up on whether these will be step releases (DG27 to DI07 to DI18, etc.) or if they will be from the old release directly to the current (for example, DG27 to EC05).
Source: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/273315#273315

dbpaddler said:
So odin back to di18 and check for the update to see what happens.
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I did that and the first thing it wanted to do, is the voice mail update

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Can you site a source of your "facts" that specifically say there will be no update from EB13 to EC05, or should we just call this a vent (maybe even a troll) and end it here?

You people act like this would be the first time sprint said something that didn't come true. Hell, the Epic was coming with FROYO since November. It's only 4 months later, and they still aren't shipping froyo on the phones, and it came out in what, last may?
Facts? Yes, how about the FACT that it WAS stated that 18 and 13 were BOTH getting 05, then it changed it changed to 18 getting it, and 13 by 1am est, NOW it's changed to 3 previous getting the update? However, the FACT still stands, only 18 is getting 05. Everything I've posted is FACT, the only one inferred was that it's not coming tonight.

Milkman00 said:
Can you site a source of your "facts" that specifically say there will be no update from EB13 to EC05, or should we just call this a vent (maybe even a troll) and end it here?
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Agreed. I don't want this to be a back-and-forth argument.
However, if you can cite a source proving your statements, I would accept them and be on my way.
Edit: @NoSoMo, look, I understand why you're feeling like that. However, it is Samsung who is developing the software, not Sprint. Samsung develops, Sprint delivers. Besides, people already have EC05, which means Sprint ISN'T LYING.
We will get it in due time, and if we don't, then I would just odin to get it.
Please don't get angered by this; I don't want an argument. I agree with you; most likely we will not get it today. But I do believe we will within this week (Sunday, if we're that unlucky)

NoSoMo said:
However, the FACT still stands, only 18 is getting 05. Everything I've posted is FACT, the only one inferred was that it's not coming tonight.
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NoSoMo said:
Updating to 05 via 13 IS NOT AVAILABLE AND WILL NOT BE THIS WEEK.
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You state that it is not available (assumed currently), which is a fact as of this minute. You then make a very bold FACTUAL claim that it will not be available this week. I am asking you to site the source of this FACT. There are people that read this forum for FACTUAL information, and when you make a statement like that, it is going to freak people out, POSSIBLY FOR NO REASON.
If you would have said "and I bet it won't be available at all this week", or "watch it not be available at all this week", that is an opinion, and that is cool. You made a FACTUAL statement off of what DOCUMENTED FACT???
In the end you could very well be right, but not because of fact, but because you took a chance and got lucky, I am just asking you to take a little responsibility in what you post on forums, especially about such a hot topic.

Milkman00 said:
You state that it is not available (assumed currently), which is a fact as of this minute. You then make a very bold FACTUAL claim that it will not be available this week. I am asking you to site the source of this FACT. There are people that read this forum for FACTUAL information, and when you make a statement like that, it is going to freak people out, POSSIBLY FOR NO REASON.
If you would have said "and I bet it won't be available at all this week", or "watch it not be available at all this week", that is an opinion, and that is cool. You made a FACTUAL statement off of what DOCUMENTED FACT???
In the end you could very well be right, but not because of fact, but because you took a chance and got lucky, I am just asking you to take a little responsibility in what you post on forums, especially about such a hot topic.
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You bring out a good point Milkman, although a little too argumental (I'm trying to keep some tranquility here )
@NoSoMo, he's right. You are basing everything on opinion and past events that make you believe Sprint will not deliver their promise. An inference is fine, but please reword it so you don't say "facts".
Guys, look. I didn't want all of this to turn into an argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Please, I do not want a flame war. Can we all agree to drop this?

I just got tired of waiting so I went to Androidcentral and and used their rom and flashed from EB13 to EC05. It worked great and I didn't lose any data. http://forum.androidcentral.com/epi...ooted-cwm-v2-5-1-0-rfs-odexed.html#post761525

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I just got tired of waiting so I went to Androidcentral and and used their rom and flashed from EB13 to EC05. It worked great and I didn't lose any data. http://forum.androidcentral.com/epi...ooted-cwm-v2-5-1-0-rfs-odexed.html#post761525
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I'd do that if I could, but I have a mac and no availability to a PC as of now. Also, I would prefer to root my phone to ext4/cwm3 (I realize you can just update over it, but eh, I'm more comfortable with my own preferences)