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Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
themonkster said:
Hello,
I was just reading a review on Hemorrdroids.
http://hemorrdroids.net/htc-desire-hd-review/
in the review it is quoted that the external speaker was something your mates will laugh at as the quality is that poor ?
I am hoping to upgrade to this phone in a couple of weeks. I was just wondering if that is that statement true ? I do use my external speaker sharing you tube videos with my mates at work. I can't imagine it being that bad.
Cheers for your help !!!
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if you are familiar with the other HTC phones such as the Desire and Nexus One, then this is pretty much the same on the HD. Quality is "bearable", but it is simply not loud enough. Max setting on the Desire HD is approx60-70& of Milestone Speaker loudness.
Yep, its the worst I have had...but the quality of the phone makes up for it.
Well its not good but to say its really bad.. when you use dolby mobile its okay.. and when you use dolby mobile on headset its AWESOME!! best i've ever heard on any phone / mp3 player
Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
Maybe someone will make an audio hack so it goes louder!
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zen123 said:
Yes I can confirm that. I just got mine, first thing I tested is external speaker volume, media playback sound, ringtones, etc. For the so called media abilities touted for the DHD I have to say the exernal speakers for both sound quality & more importantly loudness is pathetic.
I have a normal Desire, a iPhone 4 & a Samsung Galaxy S to compare it to right here I'm afraid to say its definately not in the same league as the latter 2 & even the Desire which I find quite tinny seems to go louder.
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for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
NoEnd said:
for me i don't care about listening to music through the external speaker, my concern is could i hear the phone when it rings?
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Ring volume is not that great I'm afraid.
I'm the reviewer...
I just find it so annoying, look at the San Fran, £99 and it's speaker is FAR better. Come on HTC!!!
The speaker is rubbish, it's just not loud enough. You can't even hear the GPS talking in a car lol.
If you want to see how sad it is, ive just updated the video thread with it in the bugs/problems sections a guy had some laugh with it.
to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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to be honest the sound quality through the headphones is far more important to me. I guess it depends how you use the phone. Im just glad that people say the quality through a good pair of headphones is awesome!
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im skeptical of how awesome it is, ive been spoiled with sound quality with my cowon S9 and Q-jays IEM's, im hoping that the DHD will sound on par with the cowon however i doubt it will be
awesome compared to iphone/ipod ....now that i can see
Speaker is woeful
I can also confirm that the external speaker is really disappointing. I criticised the original Desire for poor speaker volume and the promise of Dolby Mobile and SRS was one of the deal breakers in choosing to upgrade to the HD.
The ringtone selection is limited because you need to look for ones that are naturally loud. Forget watching some videos on the awesome screen when you can't hear the audio. I guess SatNav is going to be difficult too.
I use MixZing to improve speaker output for music when earphones are not nearby. But unless a hack appears to increase native volume, it's going to be a problem for a lot of people.
As a plus point, sound through ear/headphones is very impressive. Still needs a volume boost but perfectly acceptable for music playback.
Reminds me of the streak when i got it on 1.6 the speaker was quiet and made odd noises when put up full then came 2.1 its louder and clearer....Quite possibly a retarded software safety limit implemented.
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this is a deal breaker for me!
i thought with the SRS and all other crap they advertised that the speakers would be a bit decent! i have the n1 and the loud speaker and earpiece just total crap even with the hack to make them louder...
been missing a lot of calls cuz can't hear the phone (don't like vibration) ringing and when listening to the other side i try to find a quite place to listen to them as if i raise the volume the sound become very high pitched ..
damn you HTC i though the loud speaker would be at least like the ones in the EVO which is quite good!
a 50 bucks Chinese phone has far way better speaker than this crappy 700+ phone
hmm maybe most HTC's employees are bats! use high pitched frequencies to communicate
Can anyone compare the loudspeaker with HD2 ? HD2 seems even too loud for me.
just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95
Yeah the speaker sucks, my old phone was the N95 and the speakers on that are a lot better than the DHD I have now.
who knows;9118124 just found a video on youtube that shows how bad the speaker is on the hd compared to a old n95
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I agree that the speaker on DHD is be low and "terrible" to people but I don't think it is fair to compare it to the nokia n95 which I think probably have one of the best speakerS (since it has 2 huge external speakers). Nokia is known for being a great music phone too.
aah, the N95, amazing sound. Used to have it for a long time, then got my first HTC (touch HD) and was extremely disappointed with the sound quality, and now that I got the desire hd, my ears got used to the crappy low-tech sound quality! well you cant have them all in one phone
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I just wonder if there is HW problem with speaker or its simply limited by software ? because I really couldnt belive that it would be that big problem to add louder speaker..
To start with, I made that comparison video. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I am utterly disappointed by the speaker quality of the Desire HD.
I fear that this is hardware related, as the speakers sound very high-pitched, without any low tones at all. Also, when at maximum volume playing high toned music, the sound starts to distort and crackle. As you can hear, you can hear the low tones pretty loud and clear on the N95, but on the Desire HD, you can't hear it at all. The volume is noticeably about 2.5x louder on the N95.
If you compare the Desire HD with the Galaxy S, you will quickly notice that the Galaxy S has even better speakers than the N95, with plenty of low tones, at a high volume. The volume of the Galaxy S is many times higher and clearer than the Desire HD.
All of this leads me to conclude that for a flagship phone as the Desire HD is, it really has crappy speakers, and I truly don't understand how they could make a ****up like this. How much would good speakers cost anyway? Cents?
I expect a flagship multimedia phone like the Desire HD is to have proper speakers, comparable or better than we had in the N95 time (the flagship multimedia phone 3+ years ago). Samsung seems not to have any trouble to achieve this, but for some reason HTC didn't -utterly unexpected-.
Now let me be clear: even with the bad speakers, the Desire HD is a much better choice than the Galaxy S for several reasons, but really, HOW THE HELL have they achieved to fail so miserably on this point?? I'll make another video soon to compare speakers of the Desire HD against the Galaxy S. Also check out the other video's in my channel, rate and comment!
I think in general HTC's phones have sucky speakers, even that new HTC 7 phone with that big speaker isn't that impressive.
tried poweramp and turned they volumes up on that and it just crackled looks like its gunna be a replacement speaker hopefully the samsung galaxy s is similar in design, if so ill try and make it fit lol
What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.
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eozen81 said:
What a shame on DHD about that poor loudspeakers. I do not care about music because I am sure that most of people are using headphones like Sennheisser or something like that but about ring loudness and vibration feeling, it really sucks.
You pay so much to this phone and knowing that you will be left with those speakers are really annoying.
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The most Annoying thing is that I can't even hear it in my pocket as a matter of fact the speaker is so bad I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying
who knows said:
I even managed to miss 3 calls when the phone was layed speaker side down on the floor even though I was in the same room, really annoying
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Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...its screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!
ErMeglio said:
Sorry but this seems a bit exagerated! You're saying that having the dhd on the floor and being you in the same room, you couldn't hear a phone call? Come on..you were looking to TV with highest volume, or listening to music with earphones, or something similar...otherwise, sorry, I can't believe you!
Anyway, apart from this, I admit the speaker is really CRAP. I hate this. Hopefully vibration is good enough to feel the phone vibrating in your pocket, because the speaker could make you miss calls when in a sound-crouded area.
p.s. did we all have N95s before the dhd?? I had the 8Gb and...it's screen has gone! It had the greatest speakers I have ever heard anyway, so the comparison is not that fair. Most phones don't have good speakers, but the one on the dhd is really RIDICOLOUS!
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i was watching tv, and the phone was around 5/6 meters away and i didnt have vibration on.. to be honest i couldnt believe it myself i even rang the phone to see if any music was playing lol
so how is in-call volume? is it just external sound or in-call volume sucks too?
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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So that would mean that all of us have faulty speakers.
Someone else also said his speakers were great, so I guess a few people got decent ones.
Can we use SE Live View with this ? Does it have better speakers than this ? A option for not missing the calls ??
P.S- I m yet to buy DHD
007K said:
That extremely inaccurate, the speaker, if configured properly is very very good. I an audiophile, I love sound quality, I've experienced many devices. The Desire Hd stands out by far for the smartphone category. N97? Come on. I be owned one of these they were decent..
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Are you sure you are talking about de DHD? And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?
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And how did you configure it properly, besides changing volume settings?
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I don't know how he configured his DHD properly, but i think on DHD there're much more options to optimize sound quality than changing volume. I think abound de-/activate SRS and/or dolby mobile and there should be also an equalizer be integrated.
Think about that you shouln'd compare the quality of sound with any other devices than other smartphones or mobiles.
I've registered just to post a comment on the speaker quality. It's terrible. I'm not talking about headphones or the internal speaker. Specifically the loudspeaker. It's tinny, clips at higher volumes, and is worse than phones I had more than 5 years ago. I'm seriously considering sending the phone back on this basis.
Yep they are crap. I can't believe they've put something like this in one of the most expensive devices on the market.
Yesterday I was watching an episode of Family Guy and the quality of the sound was terrible. I thought it could be because of the codecs I used to convert the vid. I tried few mp3s (256bit) still crap. The louder I've put the volume the lower the quality went. Very very disappointing.
Still though... I love the phone and wouldn't change it for anything else. I wasn't expecting to get All-in-one device.
Few years ago, when I used a Sony Ericsson k530i, developers similar to u wud release Sound acoustic patches, which I never personally tried, but feel the need for my LG Optimus GT540.
Anyone?
77 views but no reply yet? Sometimes I wonder how busy ppl can be! Developers, this is a serious issue !
Maybe I'm alone, but I have no idea what you are talking about. What is a serious issue? I've never owned an Ericsson so I don't know what you mean.
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Maybe I'm alone, but I have no idea what you are talking about. What is a serious issue? I've never owned an Ericsson so I don't know what you mean.
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There were loads of patches released for Sony Ericsson's 'dumb phones' back in the day, there were patches for modifying pretty much anything eg increasing camera fps, audio volume etc. The OP is a asking for some sort of patch to affect the equaliser.
^^Thats right. I thot those kinda patches were generally available for most of the brands like Nokia, Samsung, n more.
When we talk abt LG, I've not tested the audio quality extensively, but I personally feel the sound cud be thicker. The sound frm the speakers is too low n crackles at high volumes, with a hiss sound (in case of Heavy Metal mp3s, especially). I'm not related to sound engg, so I'm not sure what exactly needs to be enchanced in the audio system.
In case someone has free time, cud they try out making such patches (if thats not tough to do)?
well, you have some equaliser apps for android, like DSP manager, but they wont magically enhance your audio quality, you have to tweak it yourself according to your taste..
Poweramp music player has a built in EQ, to change it to what ever you feel fits your needs. But, that cost some money.
I did try the trial version of PowerAmp, but thats not what I'm actually talkin abt.
I want the audio quality to get thicker, smoother with more stereo, and loudness without crackling/noise, especially on speakers. The in-ear sound quality is great (tho not the best), but I'm talkin abt speaker playback.
I'm unable to understand if the culprit is LG's speaker hardware or if the quality can be enhanced thru some software.
For instance, compare LG's speaker quality (or even in-ear audio quality) with Nokia 5800. Is it that Nokia uses high quality speakers or is it abt the software part?
Old Sony Ericsson phones were amazingly easy to modify (i remember the acoustic patches from my K750i days ).
Unfortunately, acoustic 'patches' in the form of AudioPara4.csv and AudioFilter.csv files have been removed in every new phone since the Nexus, which has annoyed me immensely
Your only option now is to use DSP manager or an audioplayer with an inbuilt EQ.
The optimus speaker is what is causing the poor sound. I believe the same speaker you listen to a phone conversation with is the same speaker you listen to music with. And it seems to me that its of not so great quality. However, i would love to have an equalizer for my optimus for deeper and better headphone quality sound. So off i go to try DSP Manager.
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Yesterday, when I asked one of the local technicians (though wasnt pretty qualified), he replied that its the software part of LG, n will sound the same no matter whichever speaker u replace it with (I'm talkin abt speaker playback here) ! Is there a possibility of this to be true?
Abt the playback on earphones, I still use the same earphones that came inside the Optimus' box. There are good chances that it wud sound better on a better pair of earphones, since I did try music on a frnd's Sennheiser pair. I think it needs a woofer-ish thumping effect n bit more thicker sound.
I tried zRoot n few more similar one-click rooting methods, but my phone never allowed rooting! I m a Windows non-advanced, no-risk taker guy, so I wudnt want to either try ADB (which I havent even installed yet), nor wud risk voiding my warranty. I donno if I shud do it since I fear my phone might ****-up doing these things n I cant afford any more bucks, which is why I cant even try DSP.
If someone here has tried DSP, can they tell me how effective is it?
Im curious to buying this phone to be able to have windows phone and android in one! I would like to know how the audio plays through the jack though in comparison to an ipod touch. Is it loud and good quality? Thanks guys!
Yes the quality is fine but obviously it can be adjusted and headphones matter too.
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And how loud is the audio? i use beats headphones which are good on my ipod touch but i would like to know if i can sell my ipod touch and get this phone instead
Speaking personally I would and did because I had no use for an iPod with this phone coupled with a large sd card. The one drawback is that you're phone will also become your music player which you might now want all the time.
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with some combination of apps like eq + Neutron player the quality does rise so as the vol.
But you have to have a spare battery if your going to use it as a player + phone
Quality is pretty awful compared to the latest iPad, though the volume gets loud.
Using my JH Audio JH13 earphones, I was never satisfied with the output of the HD2 from the headphone jack. The sound is just not competitive with recent Apple products.
It also depends on the rom youre using and the app.
My hd2 has a very fine signal noise. I hear it a few seconds after a sound e.g. a notification came in.
Its no big deal and the overall quality is good but if you like very calm and low volume musik i would maby try before buy.
On some roms its better and on some worse and it could also be that its my device that i opened countless times so that there is a hardware issue also.
Just dont want to make you false hope. But as you have many many tools and devs here in 90% of the cases you can find a combination that fits you very well.
As a music player it is not too bad but the right headphones make a big difference.
Sound quality is quite good but lacks some depth & can sound muddled on some tracks.
I was quite pleased with HD2 as a player & done 3.5mm plug adaption on oem headset allowing me to use my Sony headphones but my old Fuze blows it out of the water in terms of clarity & depth on same OS & headset ...
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It also depends on the rom youre using and the app.
My hd2 has a very fine signal noise. I hear it a few seconds after a sound e.g. a notification came in.
Its no big deal and the overall quality is good but if you like very calm and low volume musik i would maby try before buy.
On some roms its better and on some worse and it could also be that its my device that i opened countless times so that there is a hardware issue also.
Just dont want to make you false hope. But as you have many many tools and devs here in 90% of the cases you can find a combination that fits you very well.
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this^^
the ROM makes a huge difference, in WM almost all audio settings can be fiddled with, in WP....its harder lol. Android is somewhere in the middle.
personally I think its fine with WM and Android, with WP its a bit more troublesome, the ROM hasn't been properly developed yet to make proper use of the hardware and drivers/
The speakers on this phone are by far the best thing I've heard in a mobile device ever.
Just wow!
Agreed! I tried one yesterday and they were amazing!
HTC finally heard us after bashing them for years about tiny speaker :highfive:
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HTC finally heard us after bashing them for years about tiny speaker :highfive:
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So I heard you like speakers?
TAAAAAKE EEEEEEM!!!!!!!
Even the headphone output DAC is great with beats disabled.
I think this is the first time I have felt happy with an android phone sound wise.
Major breakthrough for Htc well done, now this is a proper upgrade compared to last years model in every dept unlike some others.
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Even the headphone output DAC is great with beats disabled.
I think this is the first time I have felt happy with an android phone sound wise.
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Hello cool don't own one yet but heard some reviews say great till you plug in high quality cans and turn off beats and sounds really low quality.
Deep breath please not trolling but what is your experience and the output of the phone with quality cans - bass tone with without equ etc i.e on my samy I add to install extra software as the yam chip is hopeless and I am waiting for the One to be stocked here to try.
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Hello cool don't own one yet but heard some reviews say great till you plug in high quality cans and turn off beats and sounds really low quality.
Deep breath please not trolling but what is your experience and the output of the phone with quality cans - bypass tone with without equ etc i.e on my samy I add to install extra software as the yam chip is hopeless and I am waiting for the One to be stocked here to try.
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Hi I don't use beats.
I have Sennheiser HD25's and I think they sound great on this phone a lot better than the S3.
Tom
who cares about the headphone sound? .. you can go beyond the limit with some sound driver customization!
even the speaker i am sure u can make them louder ... this phone is the hottest thing happen since android