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3G only

Hello,
I was wondering if there was anyway to strictly run off of 3G? I was using cm6.1 rc 2 for a bit but noticed it switches constantly between H and 3G.. and in return rapes my battery. While rooted with setcpu profiles I get 5-7 hours more battery life while running on only edge. Anyone have any ideas?
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rhodes588 said:
Hello,
I was wondering if there was anyway to strictly run off of 3G? I was using cm6.1 rc 2 for a bit but noticed it switches constantly between H and 3G.. and in return rapes my battery. While rooted with setcpu profiles I get 5-7 hours more battery life while running on only edge. Anyone have any ideas?
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Switching from edge to 3G is a lot different from switching from 3G to HSPA+ which uses the same technology. Cyanogen just made the signal icon more accurate, because the stock rom doesnt differentiate between HSPA (3G) and HSPA+. ANybody with a standard 3G phone will tell you that running solely on 2G will save you a ton of battery. The difference from 3G to 3.5G (HSPA+), however, is negligable.
Either use 2G or use HSPA... i agree cyanogen should have an option to stop differentiating 3G fro 4G since it can be distracting.... and ignorance is bliss afterall.
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so wait im running cynogen mod RC 2 will it give me a 3G icon instead of a H cuz i always get confused whether im on 3g or HSPA+(3.5g)

You can do this actually... search for the thread about editing the radio settings in system/build.prop
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And there is really no battery damage from 3g to hspa switching. U could just enable 2g only in settings.
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Tmobile network was down yesterday in chicago

My 4g htc g2 wasn't grabing hspa+ signal,all day loong,I think today that it works it was improved in my area. That's because I get up at 3am to work and tested my internet and it was supa fast,9mbps constant,and in gary indiana,were I work there is now hspa+ signal too.awesome.anyone else?
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I didn't notice any network outages in my area yesterday, I was downloading a bunch yesterday

Well my internet tops at 2mbps now,am I throttled? I got unlimited android web,never shows how much data I used under my account.
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[Q] Knowing when I'm on HSPA+

Is there a way to verify I'm on HSPA+? My area supposedly has it, but my G2's status still shows HSDPA. Is the phone actually connected to HSPA+, but the UI just doesn't reflect it?

The stock rom won't show you the difference between HSPA+ and 3G. You'll only see H, E, or G.
If your willing to root and use a rom like CM, it will show you a 3G icon when its 3G and H when its HSPA+
I don't know how to tell other wise. Sorry.

There is no practical way to distinguish between HS[D|U]PA and HSPA+.

Well, unless you count all the widgets out there that will tell you.
The one I use is called "mobile signal widget"

i have stock rom and i see sometimes 3G or H on my HTC desire Z
Running latest OTA

My desire z only shows 3G or H.
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when its fast, ur on H+

Mog said:
when its fast, ur on H+
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How insightful.
hectorinwa said:
Well, unless you count all the widgets out there that will tell you.
The one I use is called "mobile signal widget"
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As far as I understand, you will still not be able to tell the difference between HSPA+ and HSPA. I do not know of any definitive way to tell whether or not you are using the HSPA+ protocols.

How does cyano does it on his roms? I would like my icon to be right but I prefer stock rooted roms
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The bell site shows my area as having HSPA+ coverage but my desire z only ever shows HSDPA or UMTS when I view network setings. I know I saw someone else's post saying their stock Rom actually said HSPA+ in the status bar when they were connected to it.
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Go to phone satus under settings. UMTS = 3G and HSPA = "4G"
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Now it keeps switching between UMTS and HSDPA every few seconds. Anyone ever had that issue?
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poor data speeds

is this a general g2 problem or is tmo really terrible lately. i traded my hd2 for my g2 because i wanted 4g, otherwise i would have kept my hd2. but i rarely will see speeds over 0.30 mbps! and thats when on 3g. as well i never seem to get hspa+ in the 4g coverage area. (does android display hspa+ in the network info?)
is this a problem with my phone or radio?

Lol the orginal stock rom that come with the phone lies about 4g symbol. If you flash like cyan 7 for instance it will show you the correct symbol if it is really 4g/3g/2g. Oh yea flash a diffrent radio
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Depends on your area really. I average 1.5 mps at home running 3G, but when I get near Houston I see a lot of H+ with speeds up to 9 mps. Oh, and I've tried every ROM save for a few of the Sense based ones and they all show G/E/3G or H. I've never seen an H+ symbol even when running obvious H+ speeds. I tried a sense ROM once and it would show me 3G+ when available, but that's it.
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Depends on your area really. I average 1.5 mps at home running 3G, but when I get near Houston I see a lot of H+ with speeds up to 9 mps. Oh, and I've tried every ROM save for a few of the Sense based ones and they all show G/E/3G or H. I've never seen an H+ symbol even when running obvious H+ speeds. I tried a sense ROM once and it would show me 3G+ when available, but that's it.
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Lol because its base from a diffrent mobile company. T-mobile uses the H/H+ anyways at sandigio I get good signal at the most
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I wonder why no H+ symbols in Houston then. I feel cheated. I want my + too haha.
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it happens

If your rooted you can try flashing a different radio.
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The H means hspa+. I live in austin texas and I always get H with speeds average at around 6Mbps. If anything I would say the G2 has pretty good reception. Reason being is, I had the same issue with poor data speeds becasuse my phone was trying to connect to a tower not even in my local market...I had bad data speeds but voice still had 4 bars. Call tmobile and make sure you aren't bouncing around towers
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my phone is rooted. im running the evil's mytouch 4g rom.
this is on hsdpa network. what i hate is that my old hd2 runing android was getting about 1.2 mbps average and the hd2 is supposed to have data problems. so i assumed that when i switch to the g2 the speeds would be even faster(or at least the same), but instead the speeds are lower.

Help no 4g

I can't connect to 4g even thought I live in orlando. I only can connect to 3g. I'm using the newest royalmiui. I didn't have any 4g problems untill I flashed royalthunder then I only got 3g all the times. The speedtests I do show 3g speeds. Any help is much appreciated
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Try a full wipe including formatting system and boot and reflash your Rom. Also make sure that your Rom supports 4G
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I can't format boot in the new recovery. I have done a full wipe for every rom I flashed. All 4g roms. I'm gonna do it again when I get home to see what happens
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Maybe the 4G tower is down? I'm not sure if roms have to be specially made to support HSPA+ because a) HSPA+ is the same technology as 3G so it should be backwards compatible; and b) the HSPA+ chip in the mytouch is only 14.4 mbps which is the fastest HSPA(3G) chip, not 21 which is HSPA+. I think.

urmothersluvr said:
I can't connect to 4g even thought I live in orlando. I only can connect to 3g. I'm using the newest royalmiui. I didn't have any 4g problems untill I flashed royalthunder then I only got 3g all the times. The speedtests I do show 3g speeds. Any help is much appreciated
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check your coverage map on tmobile.com I have had the same issue and I almost started flaming rom cookers... even on cm7 I get 3g speeds. turns out the part of town I live in has low 4g coverages. Usually stock roms only have the H or H+ icon on the framework. so even when you're on 3g it shows H, even when you're on 4g it shows H. on custom roms notice you have 3 different icons. (or 4) H, 3g, EDGE, (GPRS)
H stands for 4g. mostly on custom roms this shows up when there is STRONG 4g signals
3g shows up all the time even though if a stock similar device such as another mytouch or a g2 shows H.
and edge/ gprs is self explanatory.
some roms may come with kernels that may have botched LIBS that prevent 4g connection (ie cooked roms from european phones like- desire HD etc...). get a friends phone that is similar IE a vibrant 4g, g2 or a mytouch and run speed tests using the OOKLA app on market. You will get the same results when his **** shows H and when your **** shows 3g.
Oh and they and you will be surprised at how much cell carriers lie to us about coverage
I live in North Houston and I can get full 4g speeds 2% of my usage times per month
I did this the other day with similar WHITE MYTOUCHES, one was bone STOCK no root, and one was root with cm 7- royal ginger 1.5

_ice_ said:
check your coverage map on tmobile.com I have had the same issue and I almost started flaming rom cookers... even on cm7 I get 3g speeds. turns out the part of town I live in has low 4g coverages. Usually stock roms only have the H or H+ icon on the framework. so even when you're on 3g it shows H, even when you're on 4g it shows H. on custom roms notice you have 3 different icons. (or 4) H, 3g, EDGE, (GPRS)
H stands for 4g. mostly on custom roms this shows up when there is STRONG 4g signals
3g shows up all the time even though if a stock similar device such as another mytouch or a g2 shows H.
and edge/ gprs is self explanatory.
some roms may come with kernels that may have botched LIBS that prevent 4g connection (ie cooked roms from european phones like- desire HD etc...). get a friends phone that is similar IE a vibrant 4g, g2 or a mytouch and run speed tests using the OOKLA app on market. You will get the same results when his **** shows H and when your **** shows 3g.
Oh and they and you will be surprised at how much cell carriers lie to us about coverage
I live in North Houston and I can get full 4g speeds 2% of my usage times per month
I did this the other day with similar WHITE MYTOUCHES, one was bone STOCK no root, and one was root with cm 7- royal ginger 1.5
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I live in Orlando Florida so my 4g coverage is beyond great lol. I had the galaxy s 4g and I never seen 3g on it. I kno this is a older device so 4g won't be as great as the sgs4g but it dosent mean I shouldn't pick it up at all
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This is weird. I speed test on full 3g nd I get 9 dwn and 2 up. So its 4g just no Rom will say h
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Call it dial-up, call it hand signals, call it morse code. If you are getting 9 down 2 up you are making 99% of t-mobile users jealous. Simple as that.

Lol... I have to drive 1.5 miles just to get cell service to make a regular cell call. Wifi calling is the only way I can use my phone.
Living in the woods at the base of a mountain kinda kills your cell reception.
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darinmc said:
Call it dial-up, call it hand signals, call it morse code. If you are getting 9 down 2 up you are making 99% of t-mobile users jealous. Simple as that.
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Lol I love Orlando's 4G so fast
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I live in Miami Beach and since last week I no longer get 4g I have tried several roms and it never says H only 3g when I check phone info it says umts. But on my vibrant I get 4g

khook1061 said:
I live in Miami Beach and since last week I no longer get 4g I have tried several roms and it never says H only 3g when I check phone info it says umts. But on my vibrant I get 4g
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I have the same exact problem but I have the speed of 4g just no H on my status bar
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Yep my speeds are 4g on the my touch even though it never says HSPA just UMTS. But on speed test my vibrant is faster not sure why.

It seems like the 4g issue is with custom roms not the stock rom. I flashd stock with root and I never seen 3g only H the whole time
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I have noticed that in east orlando by ucf I get a bad 4g signal more toward down town I get a much better speed.
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I live near metro west and apopka and I get like 10-11
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