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Hopefully a dev out there will read this and know what could and couldn't be done when it comes to this (i have some basic knowledge on some android programming but when i say basic, i mean basic...) but as most of you know the google search widget is back on the fascinate and works correctly if you have an ALTERNATE homescreen and you must use that homescreen (no more touch wiz). Now I personally prefer the touchwiz launcher over all the rest (i had a droid 1, then got a 2 and returned it for the fascinate best thing ive ever done imho) and im sure that there are some other people out there that feel the same way but HATE bing with a passion, such as myself. Now, more to the point, my idea is to take the touchwiz launcher from another galaxy S device (or the one that everyone has been able to use for non-rooted non-galaxy s devices for a while now) and simply make it compatable with the fascinate (I tried installing it myself and it failed) im guessing it failed for some version number reason or something of the sort (maybe all itd take is renaming the processes? idk) OR perhaps just go straight to the problem and someone dig into the TWlauncher on our fascinates and find where verizon has made them block all google related search widgets/icons (I cant even put the google voice search icon on my launcher ) Any and all input is both welcomed and thanked
bump with this as well
why?
Once rooted, you can fix the soft (short and long press) search button, which pretty much acts in the same fashion as that widget. I understand the frustration of not being able to install any widget once rooted, but that's a good enough solution. I prefer the TW launcher too.
I would wonder where the system defaults to Bing from. Even running a custom launcher, and using the google widget, the search button on the phone triggers a bing search. Would this be integrated in the TouchWiz launcher, or in the browser the phone ships with?
Daswolven said:
I would wonder where the system defaults to Bing from. Even running a custom launcher, and using the google widget, the search button on the phone triggers a bing search. Would this be integrated in the TouchWiz launcher, or in the browser the phone ships with?
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You have to install the EnhancedGoogleSearchProvider.apk from the "Bing removed! Google is BACK!" thread to fix the hardware search button. The browser is also hooked to Bing, so the fix for the browser search is to use a different browser for now.
Andrew179 said:
You have to install the EnhancedGoogleSearchProvider.apk from the "Bing removed! Google is BACK!" thread to fix the hardware search button. The browser is also hooked to Bing, so the fix for the browser search is to use a different browser for now.
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So it's both then. Done, and done. Replaced the stock launcher in system/app with ADW, installed the search provider apk, and am running skyfire as default. This. Thing. Blazes.
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I'm on ginger blur if it helps.
When I press the mic button nothing happens... Anyone else having this issue?
On my gf's atrix (stock) it uses that motorola voice recognition one. Can it because I don't have that? Can that be changed in swype settings? (i didn't see the option to change)
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I ran into this same issue. The solution was to download vlingo from the market. Works flawlessly now.
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pyro254750 said:
I ran into this same issue. The solution was to download vlingo from the market. Works flawlessly now.
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This worked for me.
It's no google , but it'll do I guess. Overall is it as accurate as google?
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I dont like Vlingo anywhere close to Google. I was watching this thread hoping someone could present a solution for restoring Google voice commands to the Atrix.?
So I've done quite a bit of research on this issue.
It seems that the version of Swype that comes preinstalled on the Atrix has Vlingo setup as it's voice recognition engine - and there is no way to change this. Upon installing GingerBlur, Vlingo is removed as bloatware and you're left with a dysfunctional voice recognition button.
So, you have two options:
- Reinstall Vlingo
- Uninstall Swype, sign up for the Swype beta and install that instead
Doing the latter will give you a much better version of Swype, and it's voice recognition engine is the built in Google one.
In order to do so, first sign up for the Swype beta from beta.swype.com. When you do and finish activating and such, you'll be sent an email with a link to the download URL to visit on your phone.
Before you can install it however you must uninstall the current Swype. MOTOROLA doesn't make this easy - you have to manually remove the files.
The two files you're targeting are /system/app/Swype.apk and /System/lib/libSwypecore.so. I used Root Explorer to move them over to the external SD card in case things didn't work out.
Once they're gone, you can go ahead and install the new Swype Beta from the installer that you have downloaded (after logging in with the account you made)
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really good first post !
so i installed the eco9 dibinged over the ec09 stock deodexed. all fine and dandy except if i try to play a vimeo video from a FB post or a tweet the browser force closes and when updating the service using *22899 soon as it is done the phone process force closes. I have tryed redownloading and installing the ec09 debinged and if i load the ec09 stock deodexed everything works fine. i just hate bing and all the bloat on there. any ideas what to try?
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so i installed the eco9 dibinged over the ec09 stock deodexed. all fine and dandy except if i try to play a vimeo video from a FB post or a tweet the browser force closes and when updating the service using *22899 soon as it is done the phone process force closes. I have tryed redownloading and installing the ec09 debinged and if i load the ec09 stock deodexed everything works fine. i just hate bing and all the bloat on there. any ideas what to try?
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Pay for Root Explorer from the market. Then debloat and debing your phone manually. I can show you how if you buy Root Explorer.
Yea I have root explorer what do I need to do?
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In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.
Awesome thank you!!! So far so good.
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samuelhadams said:
In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.
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Would you happen to know the barebone minimum our phone needs apk wise to run? Would like to slim a rom down for my son who has my gf replacement continuum.
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ciscogee said:
Would you happen to know the barebone minimum our phone needs apk wise to run? Would like to slim a rom down for my son who has my gf replacement continuum.
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Your son? Starting him off a little young, ain't ya? It's gonna depend on what you want it to do. If it won't be making calls, then dialer tab, dialer storage, and contacts can all go., no internet, the radio can go. So on and so forth. What you gonna give him the ability to do? Then we can tell ta.
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He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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I'll look this evening, if sam doesn't beat me to it
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ciscogee said:
He's 7 1/2. Im using it as an ongoing reward system. He doesn't always have access. As of now he plays angry birds, takes pics, texts his cousins, he reads well enough. I want his rom to be able to call, text, games, etc bare bone os if possible. I just see so many files to take out but do not want it to fc the basics.
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Here is the list. I'm also PM'ing it to you. Figured I'd post it here, for those who want it.
FIRST OFF: TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I'm pretty sure about most of these. There are a couple I could be wrong on. Anyone who see's something that isn't right, please say something.
411 search
411 search
accounts and sync
syncs your facebook, google accounts etc
backup assistant
useless contact backup
badge provider
Not sure. Verify that one
bing search
crapware
blockbuster
crapware
bluetooth
the actual bluetooth app
bt opp
bluetooth storage
btpbap
Not sure, on this one.
bt testmode
Or this one.
booksphone
Google books, I believe
browser
obviuous
buddies now
crapware
calendar prov.
calendar services
call settings
in call settings.
camera
camera software
camera firm
the firmware
car cradle
crapware
clock package
This should be standalone, but make sure it doesn't have any ticker dependencies
datacreate
crapware (I believe)
days
crapware
deskcradle
crapware
dialertab
the phone app
divx
codec app for movies
dlna
allshare crap
dualclock
obvious
dualclock2
ditto
dun
wifi hotspot, I'm pretty sure
email
sammy e'mail
facebook
obvious
gallery3d
gallery app
gmail
obvious
cityid
crapware
myverizon
crapware
scrabble
crapware
tetris
crapware
vcast music
crapware (Getting redundant, isn't it?)
vcast video
crapware
info alarm
crapware
inputevent
I'm pretty sure this has to do with calendar event
flash
obvious
kindle
obvious
latinime
This should be smileys
latinimetut
and the tutorial
livewallpaperpicker
sammy wallpaper chooser
market updater*
delete, only if you don't want newer version of market. If you delete market, I'd
be sure to delete this, as well.
mediahub
sammy media client (all in one music. video)
memo
memo pad
mini
diary crapware
music player
works with media hub, not dependent
music service
same thing
myfiles
sd card file reader
my music launcher
launches my music app delete, if you delete my music standalone
my music standalone
music player
phone
obvious
phoneutil
plays with phone. I'd delete all phone apps or none.
phone crash notifier
obvious
phone err service
not sure.. 911?
picotts
text to speech engine
protips
the initial tutorial, when you first opened your phone
rssprovider
rss feed provider
sasamsung widget (all of them.)
crapware, galore
screen capture
obvious
sdm
I belive this is the firmware update engine. Useless, now
skype
obvious
snsaccount
ticker account app
sns provider
ticker account data service
street
street view for gmaps
swype
obvious
talk
gtalk
tatlivewallpaper (all of them)
obvious
telephony provider
service provider for the actual phone app (transmissions)
thinkdroid
think free office
titckertape
(need to remove the button, too or you'll crash framework)
calculator
obvious
calendar
obvious
twitter
obvious
twwallpaperchooser
the non live wallpaper chooser
vcast tones
crapware (MORE!?)
vcast gravity
the signature for froyo. Not sure about this one. should be fine to delete
videoplayer
obvious
visual vm
crapware
vnav
vznav (crap)
voicerecorder
obvious
voice search
voice to speech engine
vsuite
vcast crap
vvm service
data provider for vvm
weatherprovider
weatherbug data
writeandgo
another 'word processor'
youtube
obvious
z7
works with mail, and something else. Don't recall what.
z7 rel ui
signature app for z7
I'd advise moving these to SDCARD until you are sure there are no issues.
If anyone deletes/moves something, and it causes issues, shoot me a PM, and I'll adjust the list, accordingly.
Txwolf1980 said:
Here is the list. I'm also PM'ing it to you. Figured I'd post it here, for those who want it.
FIRST OFF: TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I'm pretty sure about most of these. There are a couple I could be wrong on. Anyone who see's something that isn't right, please say something.
411 search 411 search
accounts and sync syncs your facebook, google accounts etc
backup assistant useless contact backup
badge provider Not sure. Verify that one
bing search crapware
blockbuster crapware
bluetooth the actual bluetooth app
bt opp bluetooth storage
btpbap Not sure, on this one.
bt testmode Or this one.
booksphone Google books, I believe
browser obviuous
buddies now crapware
calendar prov. calendar services
call settings in call settings.
camera camera software
camera firm the firmware
car cradle crapware
clock package This should be standalone, but make sure it doesn't have any ticker dependencies
datacreate crapware (I believe)
days crapware
deskcradle crapware
dialertab the phone app
divx codec app for movies
dlna allshare crap
dualclock obvious
dualclock2 ditto
dun wifi hotspot, I'm pretty sure
email sammy e'mail
facebook obvious
gallery3d gallery app
gmail obvious
cityid crapware
myverizon crapware
scrabble crapware
tetris crapware
vcast music crapware (Getting redundant, isn't it?)
vcast video crapware
info alarm crapware
inputevent I'm pretty sure this has to do with calendar event
flash obvious
kindle obvious
latinime This should be smileys
latinimetut and the tutorial
livewallpaperpicker sammy wallpaper chooser
market updater* delete, only if you don't want newer version of market. If you delete market, I'd be sure to delete this, as well.
mediahub sammy media client (all in one music. video)
memo memo pad
mini diary crapware
music player works with media hub, not dependent
music service same thing
myfiles sd card file reader
my music launcher launches my music app delete, if you delete my music standalone
my music standalone music player
phone obvious
phoneutil plays with phone. I'd delete all phone apps or none.
phone crash notifier obvious
phone err service not sure.. 911?
picotts text to speech engine
protips the initial tutorial, when you first opened your phone
rssprovider rss feed provider
sasamsung widget (all of them.) crapware, galore
screen capture obvious
sdm I belive this is the firmware update engine. Useless, now
skype obvious
snsaccount ticker account app
sns provider ticker account data service
street street view for gmaps
swype obvious
talk gtalk
tatlivewallpaper (all of them) obvious
telephony provider service provider for the actual phone app (transmissions)
thinkdroid think free office
titckertape (need to remove the button, too or you'll crash framework)
calculator obvious
calendar obvious
twitter obvious
twwallpaperchooser the non live wallpaper chooser
vcast tones crapware (MORE!?)
vcast gravity the signature for froyo. Not sure about this one. should be fine to delete
videoplayer obvious
visual vm crapware
vnav vznav (crap)
voicerecorder obvious
voice search voice to speech engine
vsuite vcast crap
vvm service data provider for vvm
weatherprovider weatherbug data
writeandgo another 'word processor'
youtube obvious
z7 works with mail, and something else. Don't recall what.
z7 rel ui signature app for z7
I'd advise moving these to SDCARD until you are sure there are no issues.
If anyone deletes/moves something, and it causes issues, shoot me a PM, and I'll adjust the list, accordingly.
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Your the man tx
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ciscogee said:
Your the man tx
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Thank you, sir. I don't know why the forum put all of the text together, even though I left spaces between the app name and description, but i edited it for clarity, if it'll make it easier to decipher.
Txwolf1980 said:
Thank you, sir. I don't know why the forum put all of the text together, even though I left spaces between the app name and description, but i edited it for clarity, if it'll make it easier to decipher.
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And I was wondering a way to thank u more than once for that post
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samuelhadams said:
In Root Explorer, navigate to /system/app. In this folder you will see a list of all the pre-loaded apps which were installed from the ROM you flashed. To debing, simply find the bing.apk and delete it (or move it to your sdcard if you want a backup). You can perform this same action with all apps installed on your phone. At first, start small. Start with apps you can easily identify by the name or icon. Also, if an .apk file has a cooresponding .odex file, move/delete that as well. You may get constant force closes after removing an app if it is running at the time you removed it. Simply reboot your phone.
WARNING: Removing necessary system apps could cause serious problems. So, start small. If you have a question as to if you can remove a particular app or not, ask in this thread and I'll let you know.
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I've tried to do this, and everytime I get an error message telling me I can't move or delete because the file is read only.
sgtwebb1 said:
I've tried to do this, and everytime I get an error message telling me I can't move or delete because the file is read only.
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Did you change to r/w in root explorer, it defaults to r/o which won't let you make changes.
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Wouldn't using Titanium Backup to uninstall the apps accomplish the same thing as using Root Explorer? Plus no FC's!
DJMaj07 said:
Wouldn't using Titanium Backup to uninstall the apps accomplish the same thing as using Root Explorer? Plus no FC's!
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It's a matter of preference. Both will do fine.
Txwolf1980 said:
It's a matter of preference. Both will do fine.
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I've never understood why people pay for Root Explorer. There's so many great free options to do the same tasks.
DJMaj07 said:
I've never understood why people pay for Root Explorer. There's so many great free options to do the same tasks.
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I like the ui better. But, to be honest, I've switched to rom toolbox. It does it all.
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OK, I removed a boatload of bloatware using Root Explorer.
Still have a couple issues;
Even though I removed the .apk and corresponding .odex files, restarted phone, I still have these in apps, and all work when opened;
Facebook
IM
Verizon video
VCast tones
And, even though the Bing icon is out of apps, it still opens Bing Search with a long press on the search icon on phone.
Any thoughts on how to get rid of these?
I've went all thru Root explorer and can't find these files anywhere, but they're still on the phone.
Thanks
What are the recommended apps to disable and/or get rid of? I did a factory reset because of nasty wake locks and trying to figure everything that can be disabled without losing features or anything. I know some of this is subjective, but still like some ideas. Thanks.
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List of them
jagrave said:
What are the recommended apps to disable and/or get rid of? I did a factory reset because of nasty wake locks and trying to figure everything that can be disabled without losing features or anything. I know some of this is subjective, but still like some ideas. Thanks.
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1.if you have two tts then disable one!
2.if you dont use apk's like chaton you can uninstall or disable it!
3.you can disable widgets that you dont use!
4.you can disable system lockscreen if you are using any second lockscreen from playstore.
5.disable useless apk's like samsung hub, watchon, Samsung apps etc.
Hit thanks if i helped you!
Mehul mehta said:
1.if you have two tts then disable one!
2.if you dont use apk's like chaton you can uninstall or disable it!
3.you can disable widgets that you dont use!
4.you can disable system lockscreen if you are using any second lockscreen from playstore.
5.disable useless apk's like samsung hub, watchon, Samsung apps etc.
Hit thanks if i helped you!
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What is tts? I think part of the problem is that I don't know what certain things are. For example, wh as the is the travel wallpaper?
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jagrave said:
What is tts? I think part of the problem is that I don't know what certain things are. For example, wh as the is the travel wallpaper?
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Tts is text to speech! Its used in s voice! And travel wallpaper is for wallpaper scrolling! If you dont want your wallpaper to scroll then you can diaable it! Anything else?
Mehul mehta said:
Tts is text to speech! Its used in s voice! And travel wallpaper is for wallpaper scrolling! If you dont want your wallpaper to scroll then you can diaable it! Anything else?
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You said if you have two tts, where would I find them? One isn't showing up under all my apps.
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Tts
Two tts means mybe you have google tts and samsung tts both on your s5!so you u can disable one!
Go to settings and then to application manager in general tab!
Go to system apps and go through the list of apps!
Background apks like tts never show in the apps!
Mehul mehta said:
Two tts means mybe you have google tts and samsung tts both on your s5!so you u can disable one!
Go to settings and then to application manager in general tab!
Go to system apps and go through the list of apps!
Background apks like tts never show in the apps!
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OK I see them. Which one should I disable, Samsung or google?
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By the way s5 is awesome! Even my s2 is completely s5
The useless one is samsung tts you can disable that one!
Mehul mehta said:
The useless one is samsung tts you can disable that one!
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Won't let me disable that one lol
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Until I can completely remove some bloat, I have the following turned off so far. It's by no means a thorough list.
Accessories
Audible
BlurbCheckout
Calculator (installed 3rd party Calculator)
Caller Name ID
Cloud
FamilyBase Companion
Google Play Books
HP Print Service Plugin
Message+ (Didn't even bother to figer out what this is before I killed it)
Messages (installed Hangouts and/or 3rd party messagin app)
My InfoZone
NFL Mobile
Smart Remote (downloaded the latest WatchOn app from Samsung)
Swype
Verizon Location Agent
Verizon Support and Protection
Verizon Tones
VZ Navigator
As far as the text-to-speech deletion goes, just uninstall whichever ones you don't anticipate needing.
Settings>Language and Input>text-to-speech options>Listen to an example. Really it's personal preference, and uninstalling unused tts voice data only serves to free up internal storage. For example, the "high quality" female English US voice for Google TTS is 244MB, The Samsung high quality voice data is around 90MB per language/gender.
jagrave said:
Won't let me disable that one lol
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Samsung has launched s5 devices with less permissions do to whatever you want! So maybe you have to root your device (which is not possible right now bcoz it will cut your warranty out) So another solution for it is try to search for an app on play store which disables system applications! Without root
I've turned off the following:
Accessories
Audible
Blurb Checkout
Caller Name ID
Family Base Companion
Flipboard
Google Play Books
Google Play Newsstand
IMDb
Isis Mobile Wallet
My InfoZone
My Magazine
NFL Mobile
Samsung Link Platform
Slacker
Smart Remote
VZ Navigator
This is my complete list... everything still works (except the Samsung bloat crap like S-voice and the verizon garbage pre-loaded). I did turn off some Google apps that were needless, and the Samsung fitness stuff (e.g. ANT+ connection, fitness, etc.), in addition to other things (S-pen, fonts, etc.)
ravenofdoom said:
This is my complete list... everything still works (except the Samsung bloat crap like S-voice and the verizon garbage pre-loaded). I did turn off some Google apps that were needless, and the Samsung fitness stuff (e.g. ANT+ connection, fitness, etc.), in addition to other things (S-pen, fonts, etc.)
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What are things like samsung billing, the app that just says samsung galaxy, and samsung link? What do they do?
jagrave said:
What are things like samsung billing, the app that just says samsung galaxy, and samsung link? What do they do?
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I believe samsung billing is for app purchases through their proprietary app store
Samsung Link is a protocol for connecting only with samsung TV's/laptops - has functionality for screen-mirroring, DLNA only with samsung branded devices.
Samsung Galaxy... I'm not entirely sure what it does to be honest. I've tested fairly extensively if any functionality / apps / services are broken as a result, and everything still seems to work fine. I have a suspicion that this is related to a tutorial/demo function.
ravenofdoom said:
I believe samsung billing is for app purchases through their proprietary app store
Samsung Link is a protocol for connecting only with samsung TV's/laptops - has functionality for screen-mirroring, DLNA only with samsung branded devices.
Samsung Galaxy... I'm not entirely sure what it does to be honest. I've tested fairly extensively if any functionality / apps / services are broken as a result, and everything still seems to work fine. I have a suspicion that this is related to a tutorial/demo function.
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Ah ok, thanks! I see that you have the "Downloads" app turned off. What does that app do? I know it's part of media, which is giving me a lot of wakelocks. The three things that are part of "Media", can you uninstall all three, and what does each one do?
ravenofdoom said:
I believe samsung billing is for app purchases through their proprietary app store
Samsung Link is a protocol for connecting only with samsung TV's/laptops - has functionality for screen-mirroring, DLNA only with samsung branded devices.
Samsung Galaxy... I'm not entirely sure what it does to be honest. I've tested fairly extensively if any functionality / apps / services are broken as a result, and everything still seems to work fine. I have a suspicion that this is related to a tutorial/demo function.
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This is with 2 hour 11 min screen on time. So Not Bad At All. (Not sure why, but keyboard randomly does that) but it is waking up a lot.
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jagrave said:
Ah ok, thanks! I see that you have the "Downloads" app turned off. What does that app do? I know it's part of media, which is giving me a lot of wakelocks. The three things that are part of "Media", can you uninstall all three, and what does each one do?
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Downloads app is just an app that shows a history/list of everything you've recently downloaded (e.g. in the downloads folder). I prefer to use ESFileExplorer as it's more versatile as a file manager, and I don't care for an app that tracks file downloads/history.
In previous android versions, I believe the Media app was part of what cached/listed files such as images (thumbnails), music files, docs, etc. I vaguely recall disabling it in the past to find that all my MP3's and photos no longer appeared in the gallery/google music app. I would not disable it if my memory serves me correctly.
Yeah, your battery usage looks about in-par with mine. I came from a GNex and was used to seeing display always overtaking androidOS/systemUI (man, that phone had atrocious battery life and screen-on time)... the GS5 has such a great power-sipping display that I came to the same surprise as you to find it ranks on-par/sometimes below OS usage in a normal day. The battery life on this phone rocks.
EDIT: Media usage will sometimes spike if you've recently added a bunch of new files (photos, mp3's, etc.) to your device, as it's scanning/caching/indexing lists to the files. I'd give it a day or two if that's the case, and you'll see it won't consume much of anything once things are static on your phone.
ravenofdoom said:
Downloads app is just an app that shows a history/list of everything you've recently downloaded (e.g. in the downloads folder). I prefer to use ESFileExplorer as it's more versatile as a file manager, and I don't care for an app that tracks file downloads/history.
In previous android versions, I believe the Media app was part of what cached/listed files such as images (thumbnails), music files, docs, etc. I vaguely recall disabling it in the past to find that all my MP3's and photos no longer appeared in the gallery/google music app. I would not disable it if my memory serves me correctly.
Yeah, your battery usage looks about in-par with mine. I came from a GNex and was used to seeing display always overtaking androidOS/systemUI (man, that phone had atrocious battery life and screen-on time)... the GS5 has such a great power-sipping display that I came to the same surprise as you to find it ranks on-par/sometimes below OS usage in a normal day. The battery life on this phone rocks.
EDIT: Media usage will sometimes spike if you've recently added a bunch of new files (photos, mp3's, etc.) to your device, as it's scanning/caching/indexing lists to the files. I'd give it a day or two if that's the case, and you'll see it won't consume much of anything once things are static on your phone.
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Oh OK. I see. So perfectly safe to disable downloads. What about the media app itself? Do you have it disabled? That screen shot with the high media usage, I'm not sure we have it was so high. It's first time it has been like that and I haven't added any more music. Another question.
Do You Know What The Chrome sandbox is? And does your keyboard ever do that thing with the capital letters?
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jagrave said:
Oh OK. I see. So perfectly safe to disable downloads. What about the media app itself? Do you have it disabled? That screen shot with the high media usage, I'm not sure we have it was so high. It's first time it has been like that and I haven't added any more music. Another question.
Do You Know What The Chrome sandbox is? And does your keyboard ever do that thing with the capital letters?
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I don't have the media app disabled and wouldn't recommend it. I also wouldn't disable chrome sandbox ( though I'm not sure of its function, its installed alongside the app so it may be a plugin for other apps).
Not sure what keyboard caps problem you're referring to. I use only the android keyboard (not Samsung nor Swype).
Hi All,
Now that most people have installed the OTA KitKat and knowing that this will be the last update Motorola makes for our phones, I thought it would be a good idea to make a collection of all the system bloatware that came with the OTA that is able to be removed safely without affecting the performance or running of the phone (either frozen or deleted for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and already rooted). Lord knows I have been waiting a long long time to delete these apps and not just have them frozen! I'll keep a running list in the second post, hopefully in alphabetical order, as people post up any that I have forgotten about or didn't think of.
Again, this is just a list of everything that is safe to remove if people don't use the apps / functions, not necessarily things that have to be removed.
...there's nothing like freeing up memory and RAM 8)
EDIT: The hard ones to pick out are gonna be all the "com.***" ones since they're not quite as self-explanatory...
List of bloat:
- Amazon
- Amazon App Suite
- Amazon Kindle
- Amazon mp3
- Android Keyboard (AOSP)
- Android Live Wallpapers
- Audible
- Black Hole
- Bubbles
- Calculator
- Calendar
- Circles
- Cloud
- Cloud Print - thanks @jldr
- Droid Zap
- Email
- Face Unlock
- Google Play Books
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newstand
- Google Search - thanks @Sefirosu
- Hangouts
- Help - thanks @scobywhru
- Homescreen Tips
- HP Print Service Plugin - thanks @jldr
- IMDb
- Live Wallpaper Picker
- Magic Smoke Wallpapers
- Maps - thanks @Sefirosu
- MC3
- Messaging
- Movie Studio
- Music Visualization Wallpapers
- NFL Mobile - thanks @jldr
- Phase Beam
- Quickoffice
- RealRacing2
- Setup 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.0 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.3 - thanks @scobywhru
- Slacker Radio
- SmartActions
- SmartActions Android Framework
- SmartActions Proprietary Framework
- Talkback
- Translate
- Verizon Tones
- VZ Navigator
- Weather
- YouTube
- Zappos
Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?
jldr said:
Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?
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Like I said, they are removable but some people will want to keep them. Personally I keep the YouTube, but use a scientific calculator app and don't use live wallpaper.
Ah I see, I didn't think those were removable. I thought they were system apps.
You're right, they are system apps, but can be frozen and for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and rooted on KK they can be deleted (using TiBu or some other method). Everything listed above is considered a "system app". But, the list is not comprehensive.
That's why I was looking for input for some of the more not-as-obviously-named removable apps. I know there was a list floating around somewhere, I had a bunch of stuff frozen from that list whilst on JB. But now that our phones are not going to be updated any further (and if there is a surprise update that comes to us, we can put the phones back to "stock" using SamuriHL's RSD Lite scripts), I'd like to delete them permanently.
Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking
Guys, I'm sorry to crash this thread, I'm locked and on 9.18.64. Since your all rooted and unlocked, I was wondering if anyone of you would be willing to give SamuriHl a freshly installed and rooted system dump using the safestrap method he outlines in the KitKat root tracking thread? I'd like to be a guinea pig for this one chance root experiment. That's the only missing piece ATM.
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Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking
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Ah, yes. How could I miss that one. Added, thanks!
Would love to help @MarcusWhite but I do not have SS installed. I also am a pretty big noob about these things, I can'do much past rooting/unlocking/custom ROMs.
Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.
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Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.
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Good call, I forgot all the wifi printer apps!
Updated the list with some others that I found as well (Email, Hangouts, Messaging, Music Visualization Wallpapers, etc.) All can be safely removed, but make sure you have another method for emailing or texting, lol
Freeze bloatware
K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.
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K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.
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Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.
I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.
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I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.
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Thanks! They've been added to the list.
The "do not touch" app list sounds like a good idea, but I was thinking of just leaving it as whatever isn't listed in post #2 shouldn't be touched
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Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.
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Haha. How do you like your crow prepared? Despite the fact that root and unlock is now available again for a short time, anyway, I think he was showing how there is some freeze ability without root with this update.
With that said, I can't find acoustic warning in tibu, is it now called something else? I can't stand the auto volume drop when I hook to my truck radio.
Update: nvm. Its no longer standalone. Its in android os. You have to use xposed to disable it.
Something I killed in this list removed my speech to text capability. The microphone icon is gone from the keyboard when texting. Any idea what did it?
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If I had to guess, I'd say it was removing Google search that did the trick. That's when mine disappeared anyway. I rarely use the option so it didn't bother me too much. If you haven't uninstalled Google search, then you should just be able to verify Google voice typing is enabled. If that doesn't do it, you might also have to long press the button to the left of the space bar and assign the mic to that key.
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I think you can add
Help
Home Screen Tips
You can add the following as well since they aren't needed once you setup the device.
Setup 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 1.3
Setup Wizard 1.0
OK, I'll bite. It seems I'm only able to freeze bloatware. I try uninstalling w/ TBU, but they're all still there. Since I don't see any reason to have to restore them for an OTA, I'd just like to get rid of them.