New to HD2, will pay for good help - HD2 General

I use to have an iphone, than I switched to the HTC Magic running android and this will be my first WINMO phone.
My question is, whats the difference between the tmobile version of this phone compared to the other versions?
Do you guys reccomend WINMO or Android? is there any stable android roms for the hd2?

Mines stable. Even more if you disable the G-Sensor.
Who says you can't have both? I got an Energy WM Rom and running Bangsters V1.2a Android build.

Id rather just stick to one. In your opinion do you think Android or WinMO is better for this device?

well you really dont have a choice. There is currently no way to flash to NAND so WINMO will stay as the main OS on the phone but as was mentioned before you can run Android 2.2 from your SD card but the experience isnt really like having a true android phone. Development has come a long way but I still suspect we are about another month away from a completely stable,,no bugs, fully compatible ROM. Heck maybe in a month we will have access to NAND. As for ROM to use in WinMo its really up to you and there are alot of great ones out there. Just do some research and find which on suits your needs.

make you a deal. how about some free help, free of charge.
depends on what you are looking for. if you take the time to configure your phone correctly, you can have an extremely fast and reliable winmo device. i have altered my set up almost every possible way and i cant think of anything faster and more solid than this phone with sense diabled and using a lean custom rom.
i also occasionally run android, but more for fun. it works but it isnt nearly as reliable as winmo, currently.
what help do you need?
jason

hey jason i also need some help with flashing my rom

SLE3P1E said:
hey jason i also need some help with flashing my rom
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
(you're welcome).

Damn I guess Ill stick to Win Mo in the meantime, I just dont like how you cant multi task as well.
What radio config do you reccomend?
I have been looking at energy's Max Sense UI and Elegancia's Max Sense UI.
Any suggestions/advices?

CPN706 said:
Damn I guess Ill stick to Win Mo in the meantime, I just dont like how you cant multi task as well.
What radio config do you reccomend?
I have been looking at energy's Max Sense UI and Elegancia's Max Sense UI.
Any suggestions/advices?
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i recommend looking at my signature, thats what i run and it aint changing anytime soon.

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Cooked Android Rom on HD2?

I was wondering if it would be possible to flash an android rom onto the HD2. Or if space could posibly allow to have both WM6.5 and Android on the device and you can boot one or the other by means of choocing one during boot phase of the device.
DaveLeh said:
I was wondering if it would be possible to flash an android rom onto the HD2. Or if space could posibly allow to have both WM6.5 and Android on the device and you can boot one or the other by means of choocing one during boot phase of the device.
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the beta Android for Touch HD is getting slightly matured now, but still pretty unusable, other than that, it is very hard to tell if the Android can be cooked and become fully working with any WM phones now. But if someone can get Android working, this is gonna be really exciting!
the furtherest along is the polaris/vogue/kaiser port and that is still not at a working rom yet, getting close now but no rom yet, still using harret to boot it.
For me, getting Android working correctly is a much higher priority than being able to boot straight into Android - effectively, all the need to boot WM and use haret does is increase the boot time.
Anyway, I do hope that Android is ported to the HD2, but WM7 is a higher priority because I can already run Android on my Touch Diamond...
Thanks for the replies. I didn't know there already was a port and you could boot Android inside WM. Since I own a Polaris I tried that the last few hours and Android works like a charm. It's a pretty neet OS.
I think if HD2 becomes popular, there might be a port for HD2, too. So there is actually no real need for my idea of a dual boot launcher, since booting it from inside WM is functional, too.
I really wouldn't want to miss out on Windows Mobile, even when Android is pretty nice.
The HTC Dragon may be the phone to consider if you want Android on a HD2-like device. Looks pretty similar to the HD2 in terms of specs; 1GHz Snapdragon, capacitive touchscreen, all the rest, but a slightly rounded and more chin-like format. Looks to me like a cross between the HTC Hero and the HD2.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/dragon/
For the chef experts out there... If you had to put a percentage on the chance that someone will cook up an Adroid 2.0 ROM that will work seemlessly for the HD2, what would it be?
Also, might this news have any effect on it? http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/android-2-0-ported-to-original-t-mobile-g1-video/
i wanna know too
kingrichards said:
i wanna know too
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This thread has been dead for over 5 months! I've seen you in other android for HD2 threads... you already know that there is a linux/android port being worked on. The linux project thread is in the roms section. What is it you wanna know that's not already known?

[Q] Is it worth it?

Hey all I just got my HD2 device n I'm liking WinMo but I'm wondering if or not to try out Android as I had it on my G1 and really enjoyed it. My questions are
1. Is it worth changing to Android from WinMo?
2. What is the most stable build to download?
(I've come across a link with a build that sounds promising LINK)
3. If anything were to go wrong how would I sort it out, e.g. Bricked?
4. Is HSPL required for the change?
and finally
5. If you use Android on your HD2, is it better then using WinMo?
Thanks
Scotty
You not going to remove winmo. Android only runs off SD currently so no chance there of bricking. The build is a person choice, depends on what you like. It's reported that it has issues with the stock winmo Rom. I think it kicks winmos a$$ all over the place.
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i just agree with squish .. and + that we are waiting for the NAND android roms
scottymacMDA said:
Hey all I just got my HD2 device n I'm liking WinMo but I'm wondering if or not to try out Android as I had it on my G1 and really enjoyed it. My questions are
1. Is it worth changing to Android from WinMo?
2. What is the most stable build to download?
(I've come across a link with a build that sounds promising LINK)
3. If anything were to go wrong how would I sort it out, e.g. Bricked?
4. Is HSPL required for the change?
and finally
5. If you use Android on your HD2, is it better then using WinMo?
Thanks
Scotty
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In the spirit of being nice I will provide some decent answers. I must say though that this is a question that has been asked many times.
Is it worth changing? To me It was worth changing. It was what I intended on doing. I dont like winmo I dont need it for professional reasons.
As far as most stable build there is none that is most stable. You will read people say this and that one is the fastest or most stable. I personally use shubcraft 1.5 and I have tried all others and "always" return to shubcraft 1.5
Hspl is only required if you have something less than radio 2.08 or you are getting robotic voices and you need to change the rom.
I am using android on my phone as a daily driver. I for one enjoy tormenting Hd2 owners who complain about their phone locking up. Is it better than winmo? I think so but like i stated before I dont like winmo so I am bias.

HD2: The best ever for all uses? even different OS?

I've read about HD2 performance since it was released, but now it seems that it is getting even better, with full android support and soon WM7, but is it true?
I want to change my X1 and was nearly going to get a Desire because i seem to like android, but i found that HD2 might support WM7 in the near future, and i want to have it too.
but is having HD2 and running on it other OS (Like android) a good choice for everyday use or just for hackers who like to push the device to its limits?
I'd say its more for people who like to mod there phones. It takes a lot of work and research to get android running well.... and it will probably never run as well as you can get a native android phone running. If you just want to run android and want a phone that will easily work, get an android phone. If you want to use winmo and android, and have the time, patience, and willingness to hack and play around with your phone until it works the way you want, then the hd2 is perfect.
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i don't know, i personally like my HD2 with android and ubuntu. aside from having to load a winmo rom so voice and sound would work correctly, the whole process following the FAQ was less than 1hr. i'm not saying there aren't risks, but i do like the reward.
I do little modding on devices I use (computers, routers, mobile phones), and with my X1 i did many experiments and used many ROMs just to get the functionality i want, and still i am not very satisfied with it.
Currently i am trying the X1 version of android, which is quite fast and stable, but there is no support for the camera, wifi is not always working, and it is a huge battery eater (not more than 2-3 hours). but i liked the interface, can be changed easily, many apps in the app store, that's why i wanted an android.
If i see that HD2 can use a Desire HD rom in a native mode, then HD2 is it
What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2. It has very good android port... probably one of the best... but it will always be a port. If you don't want to put the time in to do research and mod it the way you want, then the hd2 may not be for you. Expect to come across problems that will take time to research and find workarounds for. There will be a lot of trial and error to get it to run even close to as well as a native android phone will work out of the box.
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HD2 The Best !
I personally like my HD2 very much ! It's a really high-end device which can be modded as you wish... and I think that the HD2 is even the most customizable phone ever created on market... So I really.. recommend you the HD2, if you will dislike Windows Mobile, this is not a problem at all.. I also dislike it xD... because I've realised that Android is the future... but .. after some Android use & gaming, I was really feeled like.. I wanted to return back to WM.. so I can easily do it.. or even change to another OS like Ubuntu and try it whenever I want.. but if you buy an Android Phone.. you will not have such a customizable OS feature at all .. you will stay locked only on Android... so .. that's why I really like the HD2... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so... and if you'll want to return back to the WM.. just simple .. you will install an Official HD2 ROM.. and you'll have the WM back.. ... so .. it's up to you to decide which phone you take.. but I highly recommend you the HD2 !
zarathustrax said:
What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2.
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Danny1911 said:
... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so...
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by native i mean what Danny1911 said, and it seem there is some research on this this will be great, so, i am a step more to get hd2....
I ordered an HD2, will arrive tomorrow night.... LET THE FUN BEGIN !!!!
zarathustrax said:
What do you mean by using a desire HD rom in a native mode? The hd2 will never be a native android device and you can't flash android phone roms directly to the hd2. It has very good android port... probably one of the best... but it will always be a port. If you don't want to put the time in to do research and mod it the way you want, then the hd2 may not be for you. Expect to come across problems that will take time to research and find workarounds for. There will be a lot of trial and error to get it to run even close to as well as a native android phone will work out of the box.
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Well said!! The device driver's war will never end anytime soon.
Danny1911 said:
I personally like my HD2 very much ! It's a really high-end device which can be modded as you wish... and I think that the HD2 is even the most customizable phone ever created on market... So I really.. recommend you the HD2, if you will dislike Windows Mobile, this is not a problem at all.. I also dislike it xD... because I've realised that Android is the future... but .. after some Android use & gaming, I was really feeled like.. I wanted to return back to WM.. so I can easily do it.. or even change to another OS like Ubuntu and try it whenever I want.. but if you buy an Android Phone.. you will not have such a customizable OS feature at all .. you will stay locked only on Android... so .. that's why I really like the HD2... and btw.. very soon will appear a NAND Version of Android .. or smth. like this which will allow you to wipe your Windows Mobile from your HD2... and you'll stay only on Android if you like so... and if you'll want to return back to the WM.. just simple .. you will install an Official HD2 ROM.. and you'll have the WM back.. ... so .. it's up to you to decide which phone you take.. but I highly recommend you the HD2 !
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Be careful what you do with your hd2, if you really know what your doing you would always leave a windows mobile build as the resident rom, if windows wasn't to boot first, android would run but would be a service and driver nightmare and would need a bigger rom space on the hd2 to add many recovery sectors to not brick the hd2, the hd2 wasn't intended for resident android use, windows is still the master os at booting into things n shuttin down quick (bluescreen. lol) anyhow, android works great and fast enuff on my hd2 winmo 6.5.x custom rom (spl3) running android 2.2.1 dl desireZ v3.4finalz (webkit 3.1). I come from the dos and basic unix/bsd times, aah the times when DOS Shell with a booted mouse driver using a floppy was great to browse file systems quick n boot many things, cut copy paste ect, and bad because would forget vital entries then back to installing 9 o so floppies again, windows 3.1 saved us all for a long time as regards to media sound and streaming techniques. i went off topic, don't get a hd2 if you don't love windows mobile 2003se and above, if you really educate yourself with more knowledge of mobile devices and framework you would understand that windows mobile is very stable and responsive if you dnt load crap onto your phones memory and create trouble folders especially whilst using a corrupt windows pc os when transferring over to phone storage or mem card, not to mention not formatting the mem card the proper way!! good luck, the hd2 is still holding a little price, i say get it if you like winmobile, you may never be able to do a good custom flash on your hd2 and could brick it if your laptop cuts out half way through, i say use a pc when flashing hard-spl3, custom rom and radio to you hd2. research very good before doing anything with it ok. bless
djellenar said:
Be careful what you do with your hd2, if you really know what your doing you would always leave a windows mobile build as the resident rom, if windows wasn't to boot first, android would run but would be a service and driver nightmare and would need a bigger rom space on the hd2 to add many recovery sectors to not brick the hd2, the hd2 wasn't intended for resident android use, windows is still the master os at booting into things n shuttin do wn quick(bluescreen. lol)
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Um not trying to be a butt hole here but have you not checked out the NAND Andriod ROMs? They seem to be running pretty good. I have talked to plenty of people that use a NAND Andriod ROM as their day to day OS on their HD2.
djellenar said:
don't get a hd2 if you don't love windows mobile 2003se and above, if you really educate yourself with more knowledge of mobile devices and framework you would understand that windows mobile is very stable and responsive if you dnt load crap onto your phones memory and create trouble folders especially whilst using a corrupt windows pc os when transferring over to phone storage or mem card, not to mention not formatting the mem card the proper way!! good luck, the hd2 is still holding a little price, i say get it if you like winmobile, you may never be able to do a good custom flash on your hd2 and could brick it if your laptop cuts out half way through, i say use a pc when flashing hard-spl3, custom rom and radio to you hd2. research very good before doing anything with it ok. bless
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This is very good advice. Windows Mobile is not your average users OS. All of what you said above is great advice.
nand on hd2 is way better than on a mid level Android device.
This thread is from 4 months ago... no reason to revive it.

[Q] Thinking about taking the Android Plunge!

OK, after much patience and living with all the Windoze BS, I am considering re-flashing my HD2 to Android.
I currently run the Artemis ROM (Windows) and like it because all the bloatware crap that is usually in the ROMs has been removed and replaced with a miimal array of useful system features. That's what I look for in a ROM.
I know this question is frowned upon but I still need to ask... Considering my desire for a clean and fast minimalistic ROM, what are the best choices available in the Android world?
Thanks
GulDucat said:
OK, after much patience and living with all the Windoze BS, I am considering re-flashing my HD2 to Android.
I currently run the Artemis ROM (Windows) and like it because all the bloatware crap that is usually in the ROMs has been removed and replaced with a miimal array of useful system features. That's what I look for in a ROM.
I know this question is frowned upon but I still need to ask... Considering my desire for a clean and fast minimalistic ROM, what are the best choices available in the Android world?
Thanks
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look at hyperdroid or darkstone's new ram build, heard it was fast.
i used to be a fan of those fast builds but i tried mdj froyo hd build and im not looking back. sure its a little slower at times but i am a fan after the camera fix.
I think you will like hyperdroid butits kind of old ... anyhow I do recommend that you check any froyo builds since those seem to run much smoother and fluid then any sense I trie so far... waiting the 4gb card to start testing other builds but hyper paired with energy 2.5 gtx winmo rom ad 2.15.50.14 radio gives me great battery life (3-6mA) in standby of course.
Btw u cannot flash android on hd2 but put it on and run it from sd card... cheers and good luck
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I am running the Nexus One HD2 build on my phone and it works amazing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924
At the bottom of the first post, the developer posted a spreadsheet of the combos that are working...
I have two HD2's and using different combos... Two recommendations
1) get an SD card that is Class 4 or 6... Stay away from Class 2 as they have been linked with issues
2) if you get it to work.. Dont mess it with it anymore. leave it alone, I have messed up so many times doing this.. if it's not broken, dont fix it.
Welcome to the hd2 android world! I bet you won't regret it.
Considering your choices (i was a long artemis user before), you have indeed the nexus one option, not sense builds. I prefer to use a third option, the miui roms. good new is that changing build is easy like changing a folder. Have fun!
It doesn't get anymore minimalist than darkstone's new SuperRam. He shrunk that system file down to 55mb to load it in a ramdisk. It's extremely fast and completely plain froyo. I'd give that one a go first if I were you. Nice thing about not having nand, you don't have to flash anything, you don't have to mess with your winmo one bit if you don't want to.
The other one you might try if you want a bit more bells and whistles is the HD2One Cyanogen 6.1 rom, it's more current than Hyperdroid. I think hyperdroid hasn't been updated for quite a while.

How stable is android on the hd2?

Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
I've had my HD2 for 2 years now, and I knew nothing about rooting etc. It took me a whole day to learn, but now I can easily switch ROMs within half an hour max.
I've tried multiple Android ROMs (SD and NAND) and a WM7 ROM before the mango update, and everything works incredibly smooth and fully-functional. It's actually even better than the original Windows Mobile OS, so I'd highly recommend giving it a fiddle! Trust me, you can't really go wrong if you follow all the right advice (stickies have all the good stuff!)
Once you get going I think you'll really love the variety of builds and find one that you're comfortable with. Enjoy!
Awesome! Thanks guys, sounds like its a go then! I may even be wanting one for myself!
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Well it all depends on which rom/settings/tweaks you use but in general Android is more stable and runs better on the HD2 then most native Android devices!
cmacia06 said:
I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
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You dont "root" the HD2.
I'm using CM7_Tweaked-2.0.0-LEO and radio 2.15.50.14. I would not describe it as very stable and I cannot get the radio to do 3g or H. Perhaps my expectationa are too high and I'm sure it is more stable on Android than Windows, but I am not happy with it.
I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
Android on the hd2 in my opinion runs better on this device than some devices that are launched with it.
Load up NexusHD 2.3.7 and you or your wife won't look back.
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spitzer.fr said:
I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
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Well you are not going to find out unless you try them. Also "2.3.5. NAND" means absolutely nothing as that isnt rom specific, that is just a version number of Android OS.
In my experience the most stable version without needing tweaks/extra setup etc is the NexusHD2 roms by tytung (Froyo) and (Gingerbread) and they are as close to stock Android as you will get.
I am addicted to trying new roms though and have started to really like the MIUI based roms but am currently testing the new NexusHD2 ICS base.
HD2 forever ...
I have an EU and a from about 2 month a TMOUS:
- EU with MIUI 2.37a stable ... hard daily use, it rocks!!!
- TMOUS to try other roms with sense (big internal space required, i hate app2sd ) and tried 3 different version of ICS for now without any problem!!!
I have thought about changing them for a real android but ... i love modding ... so no chance for other model for now
A quick reply? Buy a TMOUS
Cheers
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Since you have tried many different roms, have you found a sense 3.5 that can play 720p video? Mwakious 3.5 does not
HD2 was build for Android, delivering it with WM6.5 was a joke!

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