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ANYONE CONSIDERING THIS?
Not for that price..... What is it 126 US?
I'll be waiting for Seidio's offering in this arena. They typically offer a 2500 mAh battery for around $70.
That back cover is insane lol...
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Omg, turns it into a giant brick... guess the bonus to it is if you ever got attacked you could beat them to death with your phone!
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If I wanted a phone that thick I would have shopped for one. There is no way I want to triple or quadruple the thickness of my phone.
I'm sure anybody with a G1 + Extended Battery wouldn't mind.. it felt like carrying a brick the whole time.
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I'm sure anybody with a G1 + Extended Battery wouldn't mind.. it felt like carrying a brick the whole time.
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lol. i wish it wasnt that big i can really use the extended battery. My Battery Just Went Down 6 percent in 20 mins without doing anything. The Battery Life is really killing me
Recalliberate it (drain to 0%.. turn phone on until its unable to turn on.. fully charge phone).. you could also get the 1600 mAh in the video, not much of a upgrade from the stock 1500 mAh though.
- Use dark wallpaper (and dark notifications bar if you're rooted)
- Brightness level to 0.. make sure Power saving mode is off + browser brightness to 0
- GPS off
You could get a second normal battery for cheaper and not have a giant phone.
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Recalliberate it (drain to 0%.. turn phone on until its unable to turn on.. fully charge phone).. you could also get the 1600 mAh in the video, not much of a upgrade from the stock 1500 mAh though.
- Use dark wallpaper (and dark notifications bar if you're rooted)
- Brightness level to 0.. make sure Power saving mode is off + browser brightness to 0
- GPS off
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Might as well have just said "And no more happiness!"
I will admit the dark wallpaper helps a lot if you are on the home screen quite a bit. But the brightness down to 0 is a little extreme. I don't notice much in the way of a huge drain if my screen is up at 50 versus being at 0. There is some drain at 100 though, but still not all that much.
The battery draining and recharging helps a lot too. Also, keeping 3G off in areas where you have very weak coverage (when its constantly switching from E to 3G and back) helps. If you are in one of those areas for a long amount of time each day and have access to Wifi, use that instead.
Basically my feeling is that the main draw of these phones is the gorgeous screen coupled with the GPU. It's a media and gaming-lovers phone, so why completely ruin that experience by keeping brightness at 0?
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Might as well have just said "And no more happiness!"
I will admit the dark wallpaper helps a lot if you are on the home screen quite a bit. But the brightness down to 0 is a little extreme. I don't notice much in the way of a huge drain if my screen is up at 50 versus being at 0. There is some drain at 100 though, but still not all that much.
The battery draining and recharging helps a lot too. Also, keeping 3G off in areas where you have very weak coverage (when its constantly switching from E to 3G and back) helps. If you are in one of those areas for a long amount of time each day and have access to Wifi, use that instead.
Basically my feeling is that the main draw of these phones is the gorgeous screen coupled with the GPU. It's a media and gaming-lovers phone, so why completely ruin that experience by keeping brightness at 0?
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The brightness is still really bright even in the dark at 0. Maybe I'm just used to it but thats how I feel. I've seen threads which people who agree with me in regards to having the brightness at 0 and wondered if there was anyway to make it even LESS bright.
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i'm sure someone will come out with a 1600mah battery or something slightly bigger.
but yeah, i would just get a cheap-o replacement if needed. battery life is a non-issue for me
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The brightness is still really bright even in the dark at 0. Maybe I'm just used to it but thats how I feel. I've seen threads which people who agree with me in regards to having the brightness at 0 and wondered if there was anyway to make it even LESS bright.
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Yes I am one of those people
setting to 0 is still really bright for me if indoor
I know the pros of super amoled screen is brighter than the regular one..but can't it be less bright like regular screen?
My fds Incredible can set to a level that can't even read..it would be helped if we can set it like that in our vibrant
Heck, just call TMobile's support line and tell them you have terrible battery life, and they'll send you a new battery. I just got off a chat with them and I'm getting a new battery in a few days, free of charge, no shipping, and I don't even have to send the old one back.
I never understand people saying, oh just turn the brightness off, turn syncing off, don't use X program, don't have any fun on your phone. Thats like someone buying a Lambo and telling them they will get better gas mileage if they only drive 30. By now people should know that all smartphones get horrible battery life compared to normal phones. Just get a second battery and swap it out, takes like 30 seconds to change batteries.
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I never understand people saying, oh just turn the brightness off, turn syncing off, don't use X program, don't have any fun on your phone. Thats like someone buying a Lambo and telling them they will get better gas mileage if they only drive 30. By now people should know that all smartphones get horrible battery life compared to normal phones. Just get a second battery and swap it out, takes like 30 seconds to change batteries.
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couldn't agree more. well said..
I have a 3200 for the G1, it gets about 30 days of uptime on wifi with no sim. I was getting a solid 5 days of heavy use on it.
I upgraded to the Vibrant, but if I dont charge it at work, my 30 minutes of bus trip each way kills it.
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There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
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Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
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IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
calendar
Alarm clock
k-9
woot checker
tunewiki
gmail
Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
dubstar_04 said:
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
Gizmodo and MobileCrunch have pretty much bashed the battery life to make it sound like if its not on the charger, it will die in a matter of an hour or three. For the people who got one from the I/O or other means. What do you get from the phone during a normal days usage? If its that bad, have you guys use SetCPU/Locale/App Killers etc? Thanks.
With light to moderate use, it lasts through the day. A bit worse than Nexus One in that respect, but not too bad.
Agree with sergey.povzner.
Android central had a great review on this. I have heard a mixed bag of battery life. Some sounded very good some didn't. But it's the most power smartphone out there so additional drain is expected.
http://www.androidcentral.com/review-sprint-htc-evo-4g-android-smartphone
It not as good as my n1 but its close. It gets a lot better with custom roms without sense.
Uptime 10:08:35
Awake time 1:46
I had it plugged into computer for about 25 mins to transfer a movie.
I have 80% battery left.
No bluetooth, no GPS, no WIFI.
I don't have anything extra except gmail and another account frequently syncing. I get 4-5 hours of browsing and email with 4g on or off, wifi off, gps off. Standby time doesn't seem to have significant effect though I'm sure it would be measurable if you left it in standby for a day. Adequate to get me though a day, but I hardly use voice.
What if you are watching full length movie on HTC Evo, how long will the battery last (especially if I put it on airplane mode)?
I am planning to switch from from Xperia X10i to HTC Evo. My x10 has the usual battery drain problem but I have controlled it with task killer. However, I am yet to run a full movie on it. If x10's battery life has more survival time (with task killer on it of course) then HTC Evo then I might think twice.
Also can the 'task killer' improve HTC Evo's battery life?
Does anyone know if the Evo uses the HTC Touch Pro size battery like the Hero?
If so then I've already got an external charger and three extra batteries!
Honestly if anyone is that worried about battery life get another battery as a backup. Its been said many times on these forums that a HTC Touch Pro 2 and also a HTC Hero all use the same batteries as the EVO. (Confirmed). You can pick them up on ebay for around 7 or 8$. Which is pretty cheap! Nothing better than having an extra juice pack laying around waiting to be used! Hope this helps somewhat
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Honestly if anyone is that worried about battery life get another battery as a backup. Its been said many times on these forums that a HTC Touch Pro 2 and also a HTC Hero all use the same batteries as the EVO. (Confirmed). You can pick them up on ebay for around 7 or 8$. Which is pretty cheap! Nothing better than having an extra juice pack laying around waiting to be used! Hope this helps somewhat
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LOL we posted at the same time, thanks for answering my question! I'll keep a backup in my glove box and one in my back pocket. This method worked great with my Hero.
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LOL we posted at the same time, thanks for answering my question! I'll keep a backup in my glove box and one in my back pocket. This method worked great with my Hero.
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Great minds think a like. Ya man wont get to hot in that glove box either. Its always nice to have a little something extra especially when we will be showing this bad boy off 24/7 to anyone that wants to see it! Cant wait to "Officially" get mine lol. Im about 17 hrs and 3 minutes form my appt.
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Great minds think a like. Ya man wont get to hot in that glove box either. Its always nice to have a little something extra especially when we will be showing this bad boy off 24/7 to anyone that wants to see it! Cant wait to "Officially" get mine lol. Im about 17 hrs and 3 minutes form my appt.
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i'm so excited, wish I had an extra battery though, it'd be nice
8hrs 15min till i get mine!
Gotta say this thing blows my old Moment's battery out of the water... 4.5 hours hard and heavy use... 60% left - no 4G coverage area (but it was left on by accident - ooops) and no video watching, but heavy text, email, and facebook/twitter activity.
I ordered the extended slim battery from seidio.com. 1750 vs 1500. Should give a bit more in the long run.
Its been decent for me though. Just dont jack up your brightness, keep it on auto.
Wifi kills my battery. The signal never settles even though the coverage should be good all over my house.
You want to go into advanced wifi settings and change WiFi sleep policy to never otherwise your phone will shut off WiFi after 15 mins of screen being off and you'll be using 3g which will use a lot more battery.
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You want to go into advanced wifi settings and change WiFi sleep policy to never otherwise your phone will shut off WiFi after 15 mins of screen being off and you'll be using 3g which will use a lot more battery.
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Its already set to never.
Mybattery was pretty terrible. Lose 10% per 40 minutes on standby mode alone. After messing around with it for a while I discovered the culprit was the location services. I turned them off and now I lose about 2% per hour on standby.
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Mybattery was pretty terrible. Lose 10% per 40 minutes on standby mode alone. After messing around with it for a while I discovered the culprit was the location services. I turned them off and now I lose about 2% per hour on standby.
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I'm curious, how exactly do you go about turning off the location services? Unless it's included with the GPS tab of the settings, I haven't been able to find such an option on my brother's Hero.
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I'm curious, how exactly do you go about turning off the location services? Unless it's included with the GPS tab of the settings, I haven't been able to find such an option on my brother's Hero.
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It's under settings , location and then location setting. This does not disable the 911 location which is good.
So as I mentioned in the battery life thread, in the T-Mo store, the Galaxy was reporting 2d5h on and still had 32% left in the tank. Obviously that is without SetCPU or anything and people have to have been playing with it. Even not, 30%/day not being touched is pretty good. What have you guys done for battery life? Have you noticed the "ramp up" time that is always claimed by cell phone manufacturers? Mine has sucked today but I've been beating the hell out of it. I'm going to charge it and let it stay unplugged overnight to see what the standby drain is but what is everyone doing? Have you messed with SetCPU at all?
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hah2110 said:
So as I mentioned in the battery life thread, in the T-Mo store, the Galaxy was reporting 2d5h on and still had 32% left in the tank. Obviously that is without SetCPU or anything and people have to have been playing with it. Even not, 30%/day not being touched is pretty good. What have you guys done for battery life? Have you noticed the "ramp up" time that is always claimed by cell phone manufacturers? Mine has sucked today but I've been beating the hell out of it. I'm going to charge it and let it stay unplugged overnight to see what the standby drain is but what is everyone doing? Have you messed with SetCPU at all?
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Who cares, I'm buying 2 spare batteries from Ebay, just like I had for my G1. I can go thru all 3 batteries on my G1 while at work for 10hrs. So, I'm assuming I will get similar results.
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Who cares, I'm buying 2 spare batteries from Ebay, just like I had for my G1. I can go thru all 3 batteries on my G1 while at work for 10hrs. So, I'm assuming I will get similar results.
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Haha I know what you mean. That's what I love about having a removable battery. Who cares right? Swap it out and you're good.
As for my experience, the battery live has been good. The battery status bar up top is not accurate though. Similar to the reception (bar) problem how it shows no bars but you actually have great signal. I'm sure a software fix will be available soon for this. Very minor.
Here are some things you can do to improve battery life:
Remove all unnecessary widgets off your screen. I had an analog clock on there and when I removed it, I noticed better battery life just from that. No joke.
Turn off the live wallpapers. Those drain battery too.
Turn off wifi if not using it
Turn off bluetooth
Set the notifications to refresh at a longer interval instead of like every 5 mins etc...
If you're really nit picky, check "use only 2g networks..." - I personally wouldn't.
Adjust your screen to the lowest brightness. I love that it's an SAMOLED screen, because I could never get by with the lowest setting on other lcd screens.
Hope this helps man...enjoy!
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Who cares, I'm buying 2 spare batteries from Ebay, just like I had for my G1. I can go thru all 3 batteries on my G1 while at work for 10hrs. So, I'm assuming I will get similar results.
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By the way....regarding non-OEM batteries....I do notice that they are all 1500mAh (like oem), but I've always had a stigma about putting generic batteries into expensive devices.
I guess where my stigma comes from is due to my past experience with my digital camera, when I took photos of a wedding and my files got corrupted. My only explanation was because I was using a non-oem battery, because ever since that I've only used oem batteries along with that same memory card and have never had a problem since. It's been 3 years.
Since the non-oem batteries are 1500mAh, it shouldn't matter right? Now that I think about it, I do remember the camera batteries being of a higher mAh than the original battery...I know this only has to do with the capacity, but as for the voltage output, could there have been a strange surge to cause the corruption?
I know I'm just being paranoid, but just thought I'd get some input from those who know about the mechanics of batteries and the likelihood of any malfunction due to it being a cheap non-oem battery made in china.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
My biggest battery drain was use wireless networks was disabled by default. All apps that tried to get my location therefore turned on GPS. One widget was bugged and would keep using GPS, killing my battery overnight. Uninstalled the widget and enabled use wireless networks and only lost a percent or two overnight. Make sure the GPS icon is not consistently on when not using Google Maps and whatnot.
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My biggest battery drain was use wireless networks was disabled by default. All apps that tried to get my location therefore turned on GPS. One widget was bugged and would keep using GPS, killing my battery overnight. Uninstalled the widget and enabled use wireless networks and only lost a percent or two overnight. Make sure the GPS icon is not consistently on when not using Google Maps and whatnot.
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This didn't really do anything for me. Under usage it definitely uses less battery than my N1 but standby SUCKS. How did the one in the store get 2+ days. I switched from GSM/CDMA Auto PRL to just GSM Auto PRL. I am switching back. WCDMA Preferred actually got me better battery on the N1.
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By the way....regarding non-OEM batteries....I do notice that they are all 1500mAh (like oem), but I've always had a stigma about putting generic batteries into expensive devices.
I guess where my stigma comes from is due to my past experience with my digital camera, when I took photos of a wedding and my files got corrupted. My only explanation was because I was using a non-oem battery, because ever since that I've only used oem batteries along with that same memory card and have never had a problem since. It's been 3 years.
Since the non-oem batteries are 1500mAh, it shouldn't matter right? Now that I think about it, I do remember the camera batteries being of a higher mAh than the original battery...I know this only has to do with the capacity, but as for the voltage output, could there have been a strange surge to cause the corruption?
I know I'm just being paranoid, but just thought I'd get some input from those who know about the mechanics of batteries and the likelihood of any malfunction due to it being a cheap non-oem battery made in china.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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The Amps and Volts are important, but in a battery is only a small part of it. The quality matters, the drain matter, it's max input matters, it's sensitivity to fluctuation, sensitivity to over charge... etc etc etc...
That being said, most modern devices these days have a lot of internal fail safes that should try to stop anything crazy from happening... because really the battery could have any amount of amp hours rated to it, how much it can and will output is what matters though. You could theoretically make a battery the size of a car battery for the thing that with 1500AH (aka 1,500,000mAH) would give you a retarded amount of standby time as long as it was rated about the same on everything else... although charge that thing wrong and you would have a pretty cool fireball...
an app called juice defender seems to work pretty good for me on the vibrant (ultimate juice is the paid version with all the features). I previously used it on my cliq and had good results also.
what it does is disables apn and/or wifi and you choose what intervals it comes back on. example - you could have it come on every 15 minutes for 1 minute at a time to complete necessary syncs. you can also set up night schedules etc.
I would recommend this app if you're lookin to save some battery. it also has a little widget to show you how much battery you have saved. not sure how accurate that is though. good luck!
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jaker.the.skater said:
an app called juice defender seems to work pretty good for me on the vibrant (ultimate juice is the paid version with all the features). I previously used it on my cliq and had good results also.
what it does is disables apn and/or wifi and you choose what intervals it comes back on. example - you could have it come on every 15 minutes for 1 minute at a time to complete necessary syncs. you can also set up night schedules etc.
I would recommend this app if you're lookin to save some battery. it also has a little widget to show you how much battery you have saved. not sure how accurate that is though. good luck!
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I've used this but it is a little buggy. I also need live data. Point is results shouldn't be this inconsistent. I need to figure out what that store was doing!
Anyone else?
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yeah i kinda want to know all this, getting mine pretty soon!
Is it cool to use the home charger for the nexus one AND the Galaxy interchangeably?
I ask because I'm ignorant to the amps/differences. It would be lovely to keep one charger at home, and one at work.
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What have you done for battery life so far?
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I stopped caring. As long as it has enough to charge to stay on between unplugging it in the morning, and plugging it up at night, I'm golden. I've had the phone since launch, and I've only charged it up twice, so that's about two days between charges. I got it with a roughly 60% charged battery.
I use BatteryLife by Curvefish to see my battery usage.
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Is it cool to use the home charger for the nexus one AND the Galaxy interchangeably?
I ask because I'm ignorant to the amps/differences. It would be lovely to keep one charger at home, and one at work.
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Galaxy S/Vibrant charger is 5v @ .7A. I think I read that the N1 wall charger is 5v @ 1A. It'll charge a little faster, and will probably heat up the battery more, but it shouldn't destroy the phone. I'm sure somebody smarter will correct me, though.
first off, i love this phone. no joke, but the battery is well...laughable to say the least. on my HD2 running android, i get double the battery life and they HD2's battery is a 1200 battery, the EVO'S is a 1500. and android boots off the SD CARD and has NO POWER MANAGEMENT on HD2'S. my evo dropped to 54 percent battery today in 3.5 hours. no wifi, no bluetooth, no GPS and no 4G...all im saying is... WHAT THE ****!
It gets better. Load up some custom kernals + setcpu and you'll get great life. I'm running CM6 + snap 8.2 and it lasts the whole day with moderate use.
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There is plenty of info on battery issues with EVO.
First... I would recommend rooting.
Second, use the FRESH build based off the new OTA leak.
Finally, change Settings / Mobile Networks / [uncheck] Enable Always-on
Then... ALWAYS keep your WiFi radio on. Add your home network if you have one... and wherever you go, add whatever hotspots you are in proximity of.
And if you ever consider doing a new build, backup your WiFi access point data via Titanium Backup before you do.
That should just about cover it... You will get a full day of use PLUS some out of that battery.
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It gets better. Load up some custom kernals + setcpu and you'll get great life. I'm running CM6 + snap 8.2 and it lasts the whole day with moderate use.
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i am im running KINGS #9 kernal, regularly clocked at 499200 min and 65820 max, and when the screen is off i have it set at 245 min and max... im gonna buy a nother battery. one of those 3500 batterys...they go for like 10 bucks on ebay
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There is plenty of info on battery issues with EVO.
First... I would recommend rooting.
Second, use the FRESH build based off the new OTA leak.
Finally, change Settings / Mobile Networks / [uncheck] Enable Always-on
Then... ALWAYS keep your WiFi radio on. Add your home network if you have one... and wherever you go, add whatever hotspots you are in proximity of.
And if you ever consider doing a new build, backup your WiFi access point data via Titanium Backup before you do.
That should just about cover it... You will get a full day of use PLUS some out of that battery.
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i rooted my phone within 2 hours of purchasing it...i will look into what you mentioned later. im gonna condition my battery for the 4th time in 5 days..
PS those 3500mah batteries on ebay for 10$ and the same 2000mah batteries.
If you get one, get a seido. I just bought 2x1500mah batteries from tuttoit, great backup batteries... charger too 9.96$ shipped.
Oh and I am getting great battery life with snap and cyanogen's rom.
yeah i am going to look into all the batteries, and i love sense, that is why im not on CM6. all my other phones are running it (G1, MT3G HD2). now that i have a phone that runs sense naturally, i dont wanna change it. i love sense! and this thread was just a way for me to vent about my crappy battery.... lol
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i rooted my phone within 2 hours of purchasing it...i will look into what you mentioned later. im gonna condition my battery for the 4th time in 5 days..
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When you rooted it, did you also flash the newest radios? Trust me on the fresh build.. it rocks... but also, most importantly, use WiFi whenever possible... and turn off "always update"... those are all the most important.
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When you rooted it, did you also flash the newest radios? Trust me on the fresh build.. it rocks... but also, most importantly, use WiFi whenever possible... and turn off "always update"... those are all the most important.
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yeah im running the latest radio, and i dont have wifi where i live/ work =/
is it really that hard to search for info ? there is a post about battery live everyday some times more
im not saying i need info, im just venting right now. you buy the BEST phone available, youd figure the battery would be the best too right?
After about 10 hours I was at 50% with moderate use.... not too shabby. I have always-enabled turned off, setCPU at 1190/245 then <85% 921/245 <70% 806/245 <55% 729/245 <40% 615/245 <25% 499/245 and JuiceDefender
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After about 10 hours I was at 50% with moderate use.... not too shabby. I have always-enabled turned off, setCPU at 1190/245 then <85% 921/245 <70% 806/245 <55% 729/245 <40% 615/245 <25% 499/245
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lucky bastard... lol
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lucky bastard... lol
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lol these phones are great but until we see some great advancement in battery technology, the battery life wont be
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lol these phones are great but until we see some great advancement in battery technology, the battery life wont be
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that is exactly what im trying to say man... lol.
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im not saying i need info, im just venting right now. you buy the BEST phone available, youd figure the battery would be the best too right?
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No when I got my evo I was clearly.told and shown a doc from sprint (the manager over mobile area is a buddy) to tell everyone to expect 6 hours of battery life with normal use. I was able to squeeze out 8 - 9 myself. I know people say conditioning the battery is a waste of time . IMHO do it I noticed a nice increase in battery life. I have to laugh at people who get pissy about battery life when they are holding a mini PC.
Myself i avg. 18-20 hours a charge with normal use. I have 2 backup batteries so I don't worry to much about juice
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I really dont feel the Evo is a bad phone h, hell I love the damn thing . I just feel HTC kinda screwed up things in the process . One telling customers to expect 6 hours of use is alittle of a joke . Who the hell only works six hours a day ? Or is that six hours also include you getting up getting ready for work then coming home before you go to bed ? Second , its pretty clear the Evo has a bug in its charging system . People have reported that using stand alone wall chargers to charge the batteries they are getting improved life out of the batteries (Sorry I have never removed a battery from any cellphone I have had in the past to charge it and not gonna start now) . Third yes the HTC Evo is litterally a pocket pc with capabilities most phones dream of having . Then why the hell did they give it a 1500mah battery ? Thats like strapping a 55 gallon drum of fuel to the space shuttle and saying "Yeah this outta make it" . Sorry for my rant had to get it out (plugs phone in to charge again) LOL
OP, I like you, you're funny
A couple things..
1) Why do you have your CPU governed below 700mHz while awake??? You won't save battery that way, your phone runs at a gHz, use it!!
2) Setting your min/max both at 245 on sleep will actually decrease your battery life and your phones wake up performance, maybe not much. Capping your phone at 245 when asleep makes it a harder transition to awake because it makes that sudden jump when you wake it up. Setting your max somewhere over 600 on asleep, and setting it to OnDemand will ease the transition from sleep to awake.
There is no shortage of battery life tips but here's one: The auto rotate function polls for g-sensor status like once every 15 milliseconds. I use a switch on my homescreen to turn it on when I want it and keep it locked in portrait when I don't need it. This will help conserve some juice
I'm only scratching the surface here, I'm sure you do realize what a wealth of info there is on the subject already. FWIW, I use the crap out of this phone and I consistently get 20+ hours out of a charge. Good battery performance is achievable!
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OP, I like you, you're funny
A couple things..
1) Why do you have your CPU governed below 700mHz while awake??? You won't save battery that way, your phone runs at a gHz, use it!!
2) Setting your min/max both at 245 on sleep will actually decrease your battery life and your phones wake up performance, maybe not much. Capping your phone at 245 when asleep makes it a harder transition to awake because it makes that sudden jump when you wake it up. Setting your max somewhere over 600 on asleep, and setting it to OnDemand will ease the transition from sleep to awake.
There is no shortage of battery life tips but here's one: The auto rotate function polls for g-sensor status like once every 15 milliseconds. I use a switch on my homescreen to turn it on when I want it and keep it locked in portrait when I don't need it. This will help conserve some juice
I'm only scratching the surface here, I'm sure you do realize what a wealth of info there is on the subject already. FWIW, I use the crap out of this phone and I consistently get 20+ hours out of a charge. Good battery performance is achievable!
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20+ Damn, what rom and kernel are you using? Im kinda having the same problems too. Im limiting my phone tryin to get better batt, that ****ing sucks. I just want to use my damn phone, without much sacrifice. Thanks
Why the hell do you have 4 phones running the same OS?
This is not another thread about battery life obsession. It's more about a curiosity.
I have my Evo tuned so that it has great battery life on standby. When I use it for anything--SMS, data, local apps--the battery drains very fast.
I know that data, CPU, and display are the major consumers, but...
I have a Nexus One, with also a 1Ghz Snapdragon, and almost exactly the same loaded apps. Same screen resolution, both on 2.2. Both have 1500mAh battery. The only difference is the display technology and radio (GSM/EDGE/HSPA vs. CDMA/1xRTT/EVDO).
When used equally, the N1's battery does not drain nearly as fast as the Evo. How come? I know AMOLED is supposed be more power efficient, but by that much? I know CDMA can be less efficient, but again, by that much?
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Duh! Edited from Hummingbird to Snapdragon (got confused-I just picked up an Epic which has Hummingbird). Thanks for correcting.
They both use Snapdragon, Hummingbird is Samsungs CPU codename, it's based on the same architecture but uses a smaller process.
What software are you running?
Same exact problem as OP...this baffles me.
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Same exact problem as OP...this baffles me.
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Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
If you’re running the stock kernel, do you think the fact that the screen is physically bigger may have something to do with the difference? I’ve always accounted the difference in the battery drain speed (between screen on and screen off) to the fact that most of us are running tweaked kernels that are overclocked when the screen on (with 5 point multi-touch, etc), and underclocked with the screen off.
The problem with battery life issues is that most of the time it can be just a perception and not scientific evidence at all.
Personally, I had an iPhone 3GS prior to getting an EVO and I would say the same exact thing happened with my iPhone. Especially when I was playing games. It doesn't seem to happen with my EVO.
Even seemingly silly things like the Battery Icon can help with the perception that battery life on the phone is bad. Since it only has 4 levels, it kind of tricks your mind into thinking your battery is draining really fast. Try flashing this.
Scientifically, The difference in battery life running the same exact apps under the same exact conditions would be almost negligible between an Evo and a Nexus one. You could even test them side by side and see for yourself.
Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
- There's a huge misconception that AMOLED Screens use a lot less battery than regular LCDs, but in fact, that's only when the screen is showing LOTS of black color. During a web browser session with lots of white webpage viewing, AMOLED has no Power consumption advantage over LCD.
Signal is a HUGE contributor. I get about 12 hours out of my battery 3-4 out of 5 bars. I went to the sand dunes and had 5 bars and my phone lasted 28 hours.
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Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
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there are some variables here - my router at home sucks, so I actually get better signal (and battery) with 3g and not wifi unless I'm in the same room as the router. Like the guy above me said, signal plays a huge part in it.
btw, were you really one of the few people that had an n-gage?
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btw, were you really one of the few people that had an n-gage?
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hahaha yeah. Still have it shoved in my closet, actually. I LOVED it.
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hahaha yeah. Still have it shoved in my closet, actually. I LOVED it.
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Man that's a lot of phones...
Plancy said:
Is it something new, or has this always been happening?
Was it after the new update or kernel WHATEVER, that you flashed?
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Seems like it's always been problem for me..
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What software are you running?
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When I run Handcent, N1 uses about 20% less battery over ~400 messages. Browsing sees similar results. No exotic apps and I keep close eye of what is running/syncing in the background.
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I too, have seen this from day one, running all stock ROMs.
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The problem with battery life issues is that most of the time it can be just a perception and not scientific evidence at all.
Even seemingly silly things like the Battery Icon can help with the perception that battery life on the phone is bad. Since it only has 4 levels, it kind of tricks your mind into thinking your battery is draining really fast.
Scientifically, The difference in battery life running the same exact apps under the same exact conditions would be almost negligible between an Evo and a Nexus one. You could even test them side by side and see for yourself.
Also, some facts:
- CDMA 3G is LESS power hungry than HSDPA when actually using it. Heck, EV-DO even uses less power than CDMA 2G(1xRTT)! Wi-Fi uses even less, so use it whenever you can.
- There's a huge misconception that AMOLED Screens use a lot less battery than regular LCDs, but in fact, that's only when the screen is showing LOTS of black color. During a web browser session with lots of white webpage viewing, AMOLED has no Power consumption advantage over LCD.
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On both phones, I have a % battery gauge. I use both phones in good coverage area and have observed them over weeks of use. I would use one phone for the day, do the exact same thing, use the other phone the next, and consistently see the N1 having 20-30% more battery at the end of the day. I'm thinking of loading "current widget" to see the drain rate between the two phones.
On the subject of radios: I have seen manufatures list longer battery life for EDGE vs. HSPA and the same for 1x over EVDO. Also I [think] usually see longer standby times for a comparable GSM/UTMS phone over CDMA (e.g., Touch Pro2 on GSM/UMTS vs. Touch Pro2 on CDMA).
When one says that EV is less power hungry than 1x, are we talking about a time-use comparison or efficiency? Example: 1Mb download, 1x takes, say, 1 minute, while EV takes 10 seconds. Yes, for that download, EV took less power. But if one were to have 1x & EV both running for one minute, which takes more power? I ask because I remember seeing EV transmitting at higher power than 1x.