Pushed the power button this morning and no response, thought the battery had run right down, so plugged it in and it booted to the dell screen then froze, removed battery and replaced it, booted no problems at all, still 60% battery left
Once, I think it's because the device has flexed or got jolted at some point and the backplate contacts have come apart briefly. The only way to get it to switch on was to remove the battery and refit it.
I've had this too, but not after a jolt or flex - noticed it after waking up on a morning - Streak had been on bedside table with good charge.
I've had this maybe twice since having the device.
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The only difference is my device did not freeze on boot.
yep - every time i power it down and leave it for a bit, it will only fire up again if I take the back off, pop the battery out and put it back in.
The LEDs come on, but it goes no further unless I do the above. Annoying but I can live with it for now (not sure what the wear and tear issues could be over the life of the device tho?)
did it on 1.6, still does it on O2 2.1
That's what's i was thinking, that stupid backplate! it may have moved 1mm and caused error
I posted a comment once about supergluing the fu%$er, might try myself.
Yep, sadly had the same problem. The worse thing is it did this the first time I turned it on. Done the same thing again this morning after simply switching it off.
Hopefully it won't be annoying or we will learn how to avoid it - backplate seems to cause the problem but I didn't even drop it or mishandle it in anyway - just merely switched it off and on again...
If the backplate is the problem, I can see it becoming a real issue, mine is definitely a looser fit than it was a month ago.
This just happened to me this morning. I went to bed around 2am with 90% charge and woke up 8am off on totally drained. The phone was lying on the carpeted floor with no movement. Powered back up and on with icons all messed up.
had this couple of times day, not the first by a long shot. its the back plate for sure. it flexes just a tiny bit and thats enough to make it shut down. pretty shoddy design
I really don't see how it could be the cover. Second day in a row I went from full charge to dead when I woke. It was on the floor the whole time and never touched. Then I charged it and the screen would not respond. So I hit power and then it would not come on again until I pulled the battery. Now, I'm just going to try powering down every night. If it's dead I just leave it at home for the day.....such a waste.
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Okay so I got my phone about a month ago, I had kept it stock for a week, went to a custom rom, and put it back to stock today.
Reasoning I went back to stock:
So I had been having an issue of not charging when I plug in the charger, the phone would recongized that it had been plugged in by bumping the battery meter to 100% instead of a charging icon. The LED light was blinking orange & green so I knew something wasn't right. I then proceeded to unplug the charger and saw that the 100% knocked down to 6% which it was at 8% when I plugged it in. After I saw that I removed the battery and tried a different battery ( brother has the same phone) and his was at 70% and I plugged in the charger and still the same thing happened.
So after this I have found out that it was the phone that had the issue as it was not charging the battery at all so I then returned to stock rom using my brothers battery and it still had the same issue.
I then saw the middle contact of the three golden contact on the back of the phone was sticking between the phone and the battery so I pulled out the battery and pushed the contact toward the phone and then I insert the battery back into the phone and then place the charger on it and then it started charging.
So now I need to confirm that this was the actual fix. Can anyone confirm that the middle contact is the actual one that charges the phone or was this just luck of the draw?
sorry for the long post but I thought this would be a big deal based on the design of the contacts aren't the best.
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Okay so I got my phone about a month ago, I had kept it stock for a week, went to a custom rom, and put it back to stock today.
Reasoning I went back to stock:
So I had been having an issue of not charging when I plug in the charger, the phone would recongized that it had been plugged in by bumping the battery meter to 100% instead of a charging icon. The LED light was blinking orange & green so I knew something wasn't right. I then proceeded to unplug the charger and saw that the 100% knocked down to 6% which it was at 8% when I plugged it in. After I saw that I removed the battery and tried a different battery ( brother has the same phone) and his was at 70% and I plugged in the charger and still the same thing happened.
So after this I have found out that it was the phone that had the issue as it was not charging the battery at all so I then returned to stock rom using my brothers battery and it still had the same issue.
I then saw the middle contact of the three golden contact on the back of the phone was sticking between the phone and the battery so I pulled out the battery and pushed the contact toward the phone and then I insert the battery back into the phone and then place the charger on it and then it started charging.
So now I need to confirm that this was the actual fix. Can anyone confirm that the middle contact is the actual one that charges the phone or was this just luck of the draw?
sorry for the long post but I thought this would be a big deal based on the design of the contacts aren't the best.
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On most cell phone battery packs the center contact(s) are a data or temp sensor connection, the power is input during charging and drawn during use from the outer contacts.
It depends on how "smart" the battery pack is that determines exactly what those center contact(s) do. In sophisticated packs there is actually circuity inside the battery back that monitors voltage, current draw and temp on the battery to determine the battery's charge status and communicates this back to the phone over a serial data bus with those contacts. on simple battery packs the center contacts are simply connections to a thermistor to monitor the battery's temp during the charging cycle, so the phone can cut off charging power if the battery starts to overheat.
In the end, yes, if the phone cant get a connection to those center contacts, it likely will not initiate a charge cycle. Attempting to charge a lithium ion with no way to monitor it is just asking for fire or explosion
d0ug's point above is backed up by the fact that several users have had issues with charging and/or booting the HD2 when that one middle pin gets bent (which seems like a fairly common occurance in this phone).
Ok, so i have been having the same issue and couldnt find any information till now.
Custom rom or not, if the middle term gets bent it will not charge right, also if the battery gets warm to a certain point it will shut off on you. I have also noticed, if your battery is below 50% and your using it intensively it will also stop charging the battery. When the status gets bumped up to 100% the led's will flash between red and green, this usually means there is an issue between the battery being over save charging temp, or a malfunction of the data sensor circuit in the battery. This is built into the hardware of the phone and is a safety measure.
This is from HTC Tech support this morning.
If any one elst can find out anything, im sure there would be people glad to hear.
Too bad the terminal being bent is from having to pull out the battery all the time
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Ok, so i have been having the same issue and couldnt find any information till now.
Custom rom or not, if the middle term gets bent it will not charge right, also if the battery gets warm to a certain point it will shut off on you. I have also noticed, if your battery is below 50% and your using it intensively it will also stop charging the battery. When the status gets bumped up to 100% the led's will flash between red and green, this usually means there is an issue between the battery being over save charging temp, or a malfunction of the data sensor circuit in the battery. This is built into the hardware of the phone and is a safety measure.
This is from HTC Tech support this morning.
If any one elst can find out anything, im sure there would be people glad to hear.
Too bad the terminal being bent is from having to pull out the battery all the time
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I've never had to pull the battery when it freezes. I just hit the red reset button. Is that not working for people?
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I've never had to pull the battery when it freezes. I just hit the red reset button. Is that not working for people?
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In my case, I just never have anything pointy enough to press the reset button, at least not as handy as just sliding the batt up and out by an inch or so. I think out of all the soft-resets I've done on my HD2, maybe 2 were by pushing the little button (yellow in my case)
hmm, i just checked my center pin, its still good. Like someone said above, i also reset my phone by just poping the battery out.
Also in the same situation that i usually don't have anything around to poke the reset button. I don't think ive ever actually used the reset button yet. All my previous WinMo phones had a stylus and the reset button was on the outside of the device, no battery cover removal, so the reset button was convenient to use. Battery removal seems like the simplest thing to do, if you're already removing the battery cover, just pop out the battery
How often are you guys having to reset your phones that way that you are damaging the pin, are you rocking the battery into it, or kind of just pushing it in? i noticed that the contacts seem to only fold down, they don't fold up or push in.
Ill definitely keep in mind now to put the battery in with a slightly downward motion to make sure the pins fold down, and don't get mashed in, which is where im guessing the bending is happening for you guys
My left pin got bent from all the battery pulls I've been doing. I think it happens when you don't slide it in at the right angle as d0ug has suggested. Now every time I do it, I make sure that all the pins are contacting correctly. If my left pin gets bent outward, the phone does not power up at all. (which made me freak out thinkin I broke it) Both stock and cooked ROMs have required battery pulls occasionally. Overall, I think I have to do battery pulls WAY WAY WAY more than I did with my previous MT3G. So far I have tried Kumars and Elegancia ROMs. I wish I could find a stable ROM that requires zero battery pulls. =T
yupp had the same problem with the connectors under the battery
I went in for a refurb and used it for a day and that pin was already bent so i went back in and this one seems to be in good working condition.
I think they should have done better job with the pins as I have never had these issues with any other phone.
WOW!! that fixed my problem.
*sniff* I love you guys! Thnx for the fix!
I'm trying out a couple of HD2s that an acquaintance had no business getting and is now looking to unload. The one is practically right out the box, the other looks like it has been around the DC loop a few times. I'm testing the well travelled one out when it looked like it needed charging, so I plug it in and start looking at the nice one. After 2hrs, I hear the tramp vibrate. When I go to see why it vibrated, it won't turn on again! It's after midnight, I haven't purchased it yet, haven't loaded a cooked ROM, haven't even run a stock update and it's already screwing up!?!? Since I had two I did some battery swaping then both went into boot loops. Many hours and a few gray hairs later, I got them both working again. I left them essentially alone until today. When the spouse went to sync the well-used of the HD2s, he noticed it needed charging. After almost an hour, he noticed that it had less charge than when he plugged it in. I noticed the charge light wasn't steady, it's flipping between red, green and nuttin'. My spouse, who had already laid claim to this HD2, did as he always does and jumped to the worst conclusion. I said make no inferences until we get home and check this forum. I knew you'd have the answer and you did not fail me! Best yet, it cost me nuttin' to fix!! Now do I point this out as a flaw for potentially lowering the sale price?
Thanks again!!
My take on this is that the flaw is in the way the battery wants to come out. When you lift using the tab on the left side, it tries to come out at an angle, angling from top left to bottom right, which means the connectors come away unevenly, and since the connector plates on the battery are inset, the plastic of the battery casing catches the pins as the battery rotates on its way up.
I keep my thumb on the battery just above the sim card until the battery is out about 45 degrees both top left and top right, and then pull it towards the top of the phone so the connectors all come away evenly, rather than being dragged up and over the pins.
Hi fellas, long time no see!
So, first of all, yes, I've used the search, but what I've found is threads about wet phones, mine I believe is already dry.
Situation: I'm in the club, glass of absolut and redbull in my hand, phone in my jeans pocket, extra glass of absolut w/redbull on the bar next to me. Fat drunk aproaches the bar and tips my glass with his elbow, all my drink spilled over my clothes. After a brief discussion I realized the guy was too drunk and was a worthless douche so I let it go. I reach for my phone and realize my pocket is soaked wet, when I take it out, phone is out, red light dim. So I turn it off, take it apart and forget about it til the next day. Next day, it began to turn on, but shut itslef off after a few secs, so I take it apart again (that is back cover, battery, SIM and sd, I dont have the screwdrivers to go further), cleaned what I could with alcohol, let it vent in front of a fan for a few hours, then in a bowl of rice for 2 days, no good.
So I got an extra phone and let it sit for more than a month. The other day I decided to give it another try and voila! it worked, had to be dry by now! used it for a day, left it charging, when I came back, it was off again, unresponsive. I have an extra battery, so I got one of those universal battery chargers, because I though the problem could be the phone not charging the battery. It was (even when the light turns on red and it says charging and all). So, first weird thing, light turns on red, screen says charging, but USB wont wont actually charge the battery if it is somewhere below.. 70% maybe, it does charge if it is lets say about 80% or above.
I used it like this for a week or so, and now, when I turn it on, after the bootscreen and the initial loop, the phone now powers itself off (with the text "turning off" -or whatever it says- and vibrating and all), even with the battery full. Tried with both batteries full, plugged in the usb (the light is green when full, and will even charge), erased battery stats (recovery works fine) but the damn thing wont load android properly!
Any ideas what might be causing this? it should be dry by now (its been like 2 months already and I let it vent and used the rice method), it doesnt smell funny (you know, like burnt, like when sth short circuits).
btw, also tried flashing the ROM again (i always have a couple in the sd just in case) and didn't work neither, does exactly the same.
i know it is a bit long to read but i wanted to give you the most insight i could. i know that it works! it did a couple days ago, but something got screwed with the startup and i dont know what it is!
update: so today i tried again, to my surprise, it showed me the first-use android intro, and i could use it, but wen i was about to finish setting it up, it shut off
time for a new phone!
You need a new Phone.
aaawww cmooon, heh, yeah, i know, but it aint easy to just "change the phone", i mean, i already have, but im using a crappy phone, and i wouldnt buy anything lower than the dream, but these things arent cheap here you know? you might get them for free sometimes with a contract, not around here we dont.
I think the problem is the no-charging issue, because i believe the phone not working now is due to bot batteries being damaged by the universal charger. the contacts are all scratched. i tried like to scratch them more to make them even, and it worked for about 2 minutes.. if i can rule that out and i can fix the chargin issue, all i need is a new battery, but i wont buy another one (i cant just go to a shop because they dont sell them here, i have to order them online and wait like a month for it to arrive) until i know it will work!
Just an update:
So I forgot about the issue once more and let it sit for.. well from the last post till last week (6 weeks give or take a week). After dusting it off, I took the less-damaged battery and tried my best to fix the contacts. Put it back on, plugged it, and after a while, I turned it on. To my surprise, it worked, and now it is charging again. I guess it hadn't fully dried, idk, but it works at least for now (and has been working for over a week now, I think that's better than last time) .
I wonder what the hell happened to my phone this morning, I thought it was dead. This morning at 4am, I pressed the home button, the clock and date were there as usual on the lockscreen. But there was no lockscreen, just a completely black background. I tried swiping it, nothing. Pressed the power button and the phone became completely dead, nothing happening, couldn't even get the time and date back. Connected to mains charger, nothing, no icon. Left it overnight till just now. Pressed power button, nothing. Connected to USB, nothing. Took battery cover off, removed sim card ready to put back in my old phone. Removed battery which was firmly in and then put battery back in after a few seconds. Everything fired up fine and it said 100% battery charge since obviously charging overnight.
Something up with the battery connection? It's not like the battery was loose in the compartment, it was slotted in as it should be as far as I could tell since I installed it when the phone was new 2 weeks ago. Yet removing the battery and putting it back seemed to cure the issue.
Seems it was a crash my phone experienced. Normal to have crashes or faulty phone? Only have launcher pro installed, no rooting, no drops, knocks or shocks to the phone.
Strange problem you had. I've had several crashes already, but all the ones that involved the phone itself crashing resulted in automatic reboots. I have a lot of stuff installed, but most of the time it's a game that'll crash it.
you could have solved this problem much earlier honestly.
in such cases it is very common to first take out the battery, wait a while and reinsert it. would have brought you the same solution in probably 10 minutes
v1rtu4l said:
you could have solved this problem much earlier honestly.
in such cases it is very common to first take out the battery, wait a while and reinsert it. would have brought you the same solution in probably 10 minutes
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Well if I'd known to do that straight away, don't you think I would have done?
now you know
Proof? The sgsll really IS the son of god ! )
Hey guys,
I have had this particular device for about a week... it is a replacement as my last one had a faulty cellular radio. So this is still under free replacement warranty - but I hope it doesn't need it.
Anyway, I was at the pool hall today, and the phone was working ok then one time I pulled it out of my pocket and it was dead... home button did nothing and the power button did nothing. But it had plenty of battery life left (60ish %).
About 10 minutes later I plugged it into the charger and after about 45 seconds it showed the battery charging and all was good. What could have happened?
I keep it in a case (TPU case) so I was guessing overheating but I wasn't really even using it. So I don't see how it could have been that hot.
Edit: also, when hitting the power button it doesn't go from full brightness to screen off and vice versa.... it has like a middle step of going dim first. Then off or on, my last device didn't do this... is it common?
Needless to say I am a little concerned.
Cheers!
I've have had the phone for 2 years and it had been working fine until last summer, where I had accidentally left it in my trunks pocket when I went out swimming, It had to be underwater for like 10 minutes or so before I realized it, thankfully, we were on holiday in Turkey at the time so I could leave the phone (without a lid or battery) on the balcony for days to dry. And eventually, it worked! But that came with a few issues.
1. The phone would shut off randomly.
2. Had to charge the phone to power it on.
3. The camera had a few dark spots where water got in.
4. When the phone was powered off it would constantly start beeping, the same beep you hear when I power it on.
5. Speakers are weak.
Nowadays, I am pretty sure all the water is out of the phone, and I am only having these issues now.
1. The camera had dark spots.
2. Speakers are weak.
But yesterday, things were getting weird, when I closed the phone (close the phone, not power it off), and I try to open it again, it would not open and would randomly make a beep sound, then the buttons on the bottom would light up, the only thing I can do to make it normal was removing the battery, when I did that I tried putting the battery back in, and it is back to making those beeping sounds I mentioned on point 4. So I tried charging the phone to power it on, and it still didn't do anything! I found the only way to power the phone on was charging it without the battery then waiting like an hour for the 'charging' sign to come up allowing me to power the phone and insert the battery back in. But it still won't open when the phone is closed (again, closed, not powered off).
What should I do?
Water got in. Deep. And the fact that it was not disassembled and let to dry made it worse. Water could have still been inside. And the fact that you still used it didn't help either. Time for a new device.
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Water got in. Deep. And the fact that it was not disassembled and let to dry made it worse. Water could have still been inside. And the fact that you still used it didn't help either. Time for a new device.
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The thing is, everything works, It's just the hard procedure of powering it on. But yeah, I might as well leave it on forever with certain apps until its time is up. FPBP to you sir.
You could certainly replace the speakers and camera, but I for one have no idea what the heck is happening with the weird sleep issue (yes, closing the phone=putting your pc into sleep or hibernate). I say it could be a power button failure, but if you could order a new frame off of ebay and replace it, see if the issue is still here. And that's not a beep, that's a tune you hear when the phone powers on. Or the vibration? Please clarify.