This might be a rant, so I apologist up front but..........
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
What I was hoping is that it could see the operating system and effectively act as a monitor and therefore a portable computer.
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Another trick dell have missed
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Maybe someone can write an app like they did for the DroidX that outputs everything you see on the screen.
Fazziebear said:
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
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This is what majority of owners want - to watch a movie on TV and play some music.
The ability to have desktop on TV is useless for them - you cannot touch TV screen to press a button anyway...
But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
I also have 3 devices for watching films on my tv (cable, ps3 and dvd player) why do I need another one. But if I could replace them with something better I would.
The present function is not better but in fact worse as I have remotes for my other players
Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
Short sighted developers and a lack of understanding of what is possible is the only thing blocking it.
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Fazziebear said:
But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
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But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
The desktop on TV is pointless...
Fazziebear said:
Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
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You don't have to convince me that it is nice use case.
I am only saying that from Dell point of view it is so rare, that it's not worth working on it. ROI is to low.
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.
it would be preferable if the screen stayed "on" the telly (or monitor?) for everything though - saves going back and forth between the two screens. Can understand why it's not a priority for Dell though, but I think they'd sell more docks if it DID do full output....i'd probably buy one then!
I presume it's not possible for someone to develop something?..............
smokku said:
But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
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Not really, The streak becomes the remote for the screen. Keyboard and track pad.
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smokku said:
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.
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Defo support bluetooth keyboard, not too bothered for a mouse, defo support an output to monitor.
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I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.
clubtech said:
I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.
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+1 In a New York minute.
Full HDMI support and BT Keyboard and Mouse! This combo will be the best! Just add a 42" flat tv and you've got a good everyday PC for multimedia, internet, email an so much more!
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Does anyone know if you can push the homescreen/email/web/etc to a tv or just videos. There is a video online of the Incredible doing the whole UI so I am hopeful that its the same with the EVO.
I think its just videos... I may be mistaken but if it is, I'm sure someone will put something together that allows the whole UI.
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I'm pretty sure regardless of what it does out of the box, once we have root and start fiddling around that will be one thing that gets hacked pretty quickly.
pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364134,00.asp
Unfortunately, the TV doesn't mirror the phone's UI. Only videos and slideshows play on the TV - the rest of your content is stuck on your phone, including still images, games, and presentations.
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URABUS0924 said:
pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364134,00.asp
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I think it would be awesome to push the whole UI and then use an app such as Airmouse or TouchMouse (iPhone Apps) to lay in bed and control your device. So awesome to just view/play movies with the help of an iPod touch air mouse app.
BTW I would gladly pay for this app if someone could develop it.
gqstatus0685 said:
I think it would be awesome to push the whole UI and then use an app such as Airmouse or TouchMouse (iPhone Apps) to lay in bed and control your device. So awesome to just view/play movies with the help of an iPod touch air mouse app.
BTW I would gladly pay for this app if someone could develop it.
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So you want to get your UI on the TV so you can watch yourself controlling your device with airmouse?
I see an Xzibit 4chan image in the making here.
It's too bad this phone doesn't have DLNA support like some of the Samsung phones have. That way we can forget about the whole HDMI cable thing and stream it wirelessly.
URABUS0924 said:
It's too bad this phone doesn't have DLNA support like some of the Samsung phones have. That way we can forget about the whole HDMI cable thing and stream it wirelessly.
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There are several DLNA apps on the market. they work pretty well.
gqstatus0685 said:
I think it would be awesome to push the whole UI and then use an app such as Airmouse or TouchMouse (iPhone Apps) to lay in bed and control your device. So awesome to just view/play movies with the help of an iPod touch air mouse app.
BTW I would gladly pay for this app if someone could develop it.
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Likewise I would pay for this capability also.
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So you want to get your UI on the TV so you can watch yourself controlling your device with airmouse?
I see an Xzibit 4chan image in the making here.
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It's the same principle as putting displaying your desktop on your TV. It's just a better experience. I have a Dell Mini 10V with Mac OS on it. I connect that to my TV and work from my bed or browse internet with AirMouse.
Ok, I'm getting this "phone". I've been sitting around waiting for a release date for what seems like a year now, lol.
Here is my one request, from the marvelous XDA dev community, who has never ceased to amaze me in the years I've been here.
I want this thing to do HDMI out. I'm not talking pushing a YouTube video out of the HDMI port, I want to see Android on my 24" monitor. I want to be able to use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to run the controls, and I want to be able to dock my Streak and use it on a larger display. 720p/1080p would be a huge bonus, but I have no idea what limitations are in place there.
Ok, that's it. Make that happen, and I will be very happy.
If you pay £55 for the Dell Home AV Kit it will do this I believe......
Granted, I don't have a Streak on which to try it out...but isn't that only for videos (YouTube, video files, etc)? As far as I'm aware, you don't get the actual desktop, right?
I don't have one either, but in a video I saw it appeared that the dock only pushes the video through the HDMI and not the android "desktop."
I too would love to be able to do this though!
Ah right thats not too good then, the Samsung Galaxy seems to be TV-Out and just replicated the system as on the screen, I'm thinking of buying a Nokia N900 to play with as it has TV out and would let me play SNES / Mega Drive games etc when I'm in a hotel room.
I wonder if full TV Out is something we could hack
£55 is a lot for just movies out...i was hoping for full android on my big tv
fracmo2000 said:
£55 is a lot for just movies out...i was hoping for full android on my big tv
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Yeah, that's for sure. Big deal, if I wanna watch just movies, I'll find a computer and do it. The power of HDMI-out is in being able to use Android on your phone on the go, and then docking it and using it as a netbook-replacement when at a desk (or as a HTPC when in the living room, etc.)
Give it a few months once the Chinese get their hands on it and they will churn out the Accessories and flood ebay
I need this also for a bmw idrive integration. I'm sure the community will crack it.
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i would love to do this while also running ubuntu it would be like christmas (or when i first heard about android) i would dock it and BAM i would have ubuntu then dissconnect it and id have android
sgeorge said:
I need this also for a bmw idrive integration. I'm sure the community will crack it.
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I just bought a BMW with the new 1280 pix CiC I-Drive display. With a Motorola Bionic, I'm hoping to send TV to the phone via SlingBox and send the HDMI out from the phone to the display in the car.
Thoughts?
I just came across an app called Real HDMI. It says it's only for the Droid X but it's supposed to allow you to turn off/on the HDMI port, and "use your favorite video players, applications and emulators on your big screen TV or Stereo."
Wondering if something like this could work on a Streak?
Link to Real HDMI.
we need this for Dell Streak
Hey I would love to do this. What a great app. My wife and I would not need the computer so much, if we could use this more with the dock, big screen hdmi, bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Any luck
Pls,has anyone tested this yet? I would really like to know as I want to output my streak to my TV as well. I have both apple Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and they both work like a charm when I connect them up to my streak.if I had the ock, I would happily give this a go but then I don't
Apparently its been removed from the market
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There is also a devlopement from the atrix forum for mirroring the screen that doesn't work.
Also a couple of apps on the market for the eco that also don't work.
Needs some inr to convert them for the streak
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Is there a way to mirror thru the 3.5mm jack? Using something like a iphone AV cable.
What do you use it for, has it replaced your netbook, do you use it With a dock or with the hdmi hack?
I use everyday, with lapdock and dock hd!
No I don't. I need my laptop, luckily it has clearwire LTE.
The hacked webtop is very cool, but not anything I need. I wish it could run google docs but it's too slow.
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pointless to me its way too slow and its missing way too many features to be used as a laptop
I've used it once or twice with the webtop hack and an HDMI monitor. But it hasnt replaced my laptop, nor do I see it doing so any time soon. Its a great idea but even with the full ubuntu feels rather crippled.
I use webtop dock occassionaly via HD multimedia dock. But mostly I use the wifi hotspot to give me internet access on my netbook.
i use it sometimes when i want to leave it on a hulu tv show, or youtube, or something...
I use webtop hack for hulu and streamings sites all the time. But I have $ 25 3mb/s internet service so I could "cut the cable" on cable tv and save money. I want full linux on webtop but waiting for an easier script hack hopefully.
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i use mines about every day. especially since the webtop hack came out.
I show people at work where the future is going. I don't actually use the webtop cos' I have a nice laptop!
I do however firmly believe that inside 5 years we will not be carting laptops around for work when travelling. A lot of hotel rooms have hi-def televisions already, and I think that inside 5 years we will be hauling a cellphone on trips along with a roll up bluetooth keyboard and wireless mini bluetooth mouse, using the televisions in hotel rooms as monitors while we work on Powerpoint, Excel, Word, and who knows what else. ****, there is even an AutoCAD application now.
So, in essence, I use webtop to show off and say "your iPhone can't do this"!
I've been playing with it using the hack to basically get full screen hdmi mirroring, but the refresh/redraw rate isn't good enough to pull it off.
I bought a$ 40 bluetooth keyboard and plug in my phone to my 52inch screen. Its great fun. Not so easy to navigate.
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ale922 said:
What do you use it for, has it replaced your netbook, do you use it With a dock or with the hdmi hack?
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Never. I have a laptop and find it better than using my phone.
Dell Streak A/V dock...... Anyone have good/bad experiences? I have the opportunity to get one (in original Dell box), for $25.... I'm thinking that's a good deal for an original Dell dock (assuming it gives added functionality without any hassles).... Any thoughts? Thanks all
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As a dock it's better then the slacker one in pretty much every way.
The HDMI out part is virtually useless though.
I managed to buy one for $20, i regret not buying more, for $25 it's definitely worth the money to buy at least one
Thanks Manll..... Does the HDMI out-port not work, or does it only work for the native video player (and not work when using, say "Rock Player", for example) ?
Thanks again for your input
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I dont believe hdmi video works at all anymore on 2.2 as the app that did video out wasnt ported when it went from 1.6 -> 2.2, or if it was i still dont know where it is, it's nowhere obvious.
the music app can do music (and only music with a black screen), but it hides all the music controls so you cant actually controll it with hdmi out, if you want to switch songs or something you have to turn hdmi off, switch the song, and turn hdmi out back on.
I dont believe that hdmi out from normal apps will work on the streak, but i havnt actually tried
Humm...... That sounds like Dell.... create an accessory for an all-but-unsupported device (our Streaks), then dont support the accessory... Typical! Now how will I watch porn on hotel's LCD while travelling? LOL
I think if I can get the price down to like $20 I may get it anyway to use as a charger / stand...
Thanks again
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As a charger/stand it's great, much better then the slacker one,
you could always get live actors
Yeah, makes a lovely desk stand but I've never been able to make use of the HDMI output, not even back on 1.6
It is very well built & quality materials, just very expensive for a charger!
Hey Guys....
Thanks for the input. I got the price down to $20 so I bought it..... Even though I don't have a spare HDMI cable to test video output (it's buried inside the wall the TV is mounted on), I'm still happy with it because it's well made and has extra cables and another Dell Streak usb charger
Thanks again for your input.....
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