Manufacture Defect?...EDIT: It was and im getting a new phone:) - Droid Incredible General

Okay, so i noticed a few months back that the hinge on the camera side on my camera didnt fit properly. And it slid around very badly. I took it to the Verizon store and they barely looked over it and told me i could buy a case for my phone. I took it again a couple weeks ago...they told me that it looked like a hinge broke on my back cover, and they again told me i could buy i case-__-....So, i didnt buy a case, but i ordered a replacement back...and low and behold THE SAME PROBLEM...I do admit that the replacement does fit a bit more snug, but still doesnt fit into place in that corner.
I did notice that the hinge on the back cover doesnt meet up directly with the hinge on the back of the phone which means it has to be a problem with the way the phone was manufactured, because theres no way i can get two different back covers with the same defect!
I attached a pic....do any others have this issue?....cuz im not really sure if i should argue with Verizon at this point.
-I was planning on selling my Incredible next year to get a new phone...most likely this one http://androinica.com/2010/08/07/le...e-for-verizon-wireless-gets-caught-on-camera/
-And this manufacture defect lowers my resale value.
-Also im afraid they will try and argue with me, because i dropped my phone and have a cosmetic flaw on that side...so it kind of looks bad if you know what i mean.
-What do you guys think?
-You will also notice where it looks chewed up, thats a result of me dropping my phone, however...that happened long after i noticed the defect and long after i told Verizon about it...so they arent related issues at all
>>>>>I talked to the store reps and they documented it this time and that the warranty will send me a new one

Have you thought about getting a red original cover for it on ebay? Maybe that will make the resale more attractive.

I've always had one of those silicone cases on mine, but having to remote/reinsert my battery earlier I happen to have it off right now. Mine seems to fit well around the entire phone, though it did start coming off easier than I would've thought as I was removing the case earlier. I definitely don't have your problem though.

lamusician said:
Have you thought about getting a red original cover for it on ebay? Maybe that will make the resale more attractive.
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Dont have that kind of money x)...im only 17 and my parents wouldnt pay $100 for it...but that doesnt help my issue...im just wondering if i should take it back or not
the way i feel about it is that my lowered resale value should be a result of my own faults...i.e the me dropping it....but it shouldnt be lowered because of the manufacturer
not only that, it makes me feel uncomfortable that it wont be as sturdy or anything...which i already know thats the case

prowlah said:
I've always had one of those silicone cases on mine, but having to remote/reinsert my battery earlier I happen to have it off right now. Mine seems to fit well around the entire phone, though it did start coming off easier than I would've thought as I was removing the case earlier. I definitely don't have your problem though.
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Thanks...so do you think i should complain?...im kind of mixed about this...because my phone works perfectly fine...but then i have my feeling like what i posted above, my lowered resale value should be my fault not a result of a mis-manufactured phone

schwartzman93 said:
Thanks...so do you think i should complain?...im kind of mixed about this...because my phone works perfectly fine...but then i have my feeling like what i posted above, my lowered resale value should be my fault not a result of a mis-manufactured phone
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With the money that Verizon is making off of us, I don't see why you shouldn't complain. What's the worst thing that could happen?

lamusician said:
With the money that Verizon is making off of us, I don't see why you shouldn't complain. What's the worst thing that could happen?
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Idk, lol...i just hate dealing with reps that dont know ****...and also the lady at the warranty service told me that if i send it in and they determine i broke the phone. That i would be charged full retail price.

Why does the plastic on the front of that corner look all chewed up? It looks as though someone were prying it with something sharp and did a careless job.

elborak said:
Why does the plastic on the front of that corner look all chewed up? It looks as though someone were prying it with something sharp and did a careless job.
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I dropped my phone...but that happend after i discovered the defect and showed it to the VZW store.
-I know it kind of looks bad on my record now...but im going to talk to the manager and tell him that the reps didnt document the other 3 times i came in when the lady on the warranty service said they should have

I'm sorry but that does not look like a defect. If it only happened after you dropped your phone, it's clear that there is some sort of correlation. These things don't happen randomly without some sort of mishandling.
I've had my phone since the day before release (got it a day early thanks to Fedex) and it looks pristine. Next time you should invest in a case which will help protect your phone and avoid stuff like this from happening.

shabubu said:
I'm sorry but that does not look like a defect. If it only happened after you dropped your phone, it's clear that there is some sort of correlation. These things don't happen randomly without some sort of mishandling.
I've had my phone since the day before release (got it a day early thanks to Fedex) and it looks pristine. Next time you should invest in a case which will help protect your phone and avoid stuff like this from happening.
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I said the I dropped my phone after I showed them the defect...but its all taken care of...it took it to the store and they documented it and they said warranty would send me a new one
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?

gentleart said:
It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
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I probably clean my phone 10 times an hour, and a full polish twice a day.

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I probably clean my phone 10 times an hour, and a full polish twice a day.
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Thank you for making me feel half-way normal! lol

dude call *611 for a refurb.

Umm shouldn't you have complained when it was new?

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Umm shouldn't you have complained when it was new?
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If you read in the OP...i complained three different times...but each time they looked at it for a minute and told me i the broke cover...AND THEY DIDNT Document it....I tried a second time...they looked at it for a minute DIDNT DOCUMENT!...and they told me oh well you can call the warranty people, but it just looks like you broke the broke the back cover, you can buy a case if you want...so i called the warranty people and they told me that the workers should have documented it...so, i went a third time and they did and said the same thing each time...So, i bought a replacement back...AND IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE...which means it was the main part of my phone, not the back cover...and so i took it to the store and told them to do a thorough inspection and they even tested my back covers on their phones and both my back covers fit perfectly...so he showed his manager and they documented it and told me to call the warenty people and they should send me a new one...so im satisfied

gentleart said:
It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
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Thats exactly the way i feel...while its great to have a case and it is recommended....ITS NOT NEEDED, and i dont want to pay money for something i dont 100% NEED...And im glad it didnt get to the point where i had to argue that with them...like i said, theyre gonna send me a new phone, so im happy

I think the most funny thing about all of this, is Im part Jewish, and that side of me came out today...because one of my main concerns was resale value...so my dad told me i Jewed Verizon, lol
--If you catch my drift

schwartzman93 said:
Thats exactly the way i feel...while its great to have a case and it is recommended....ITS NOT NEEDED, and i dont want to pay money for something i dont 100% NEED...And im glad it didnt get to the point where i had to argue that with them...like i said, theyre gonna send me a new phone, so im happy
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I'm happy it worked out for you.
I did exactly what I shouldn't have done and bought a gel case - though I wanted one anyway.
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Go on with yo Jew self. Part-Jew self.
Whatever, You made me laugh.

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Best way to kill MDA Pro?! - T-Mobile replacement policy?

I stupidly dropped a screwdriver onto my screen, and its made a really annoying dent on the screen, so i'm going to try to get a replacement MDA Pro (Im still within my 30 days of starting my contract).
Obviously i'm not covered for accidental damage, so i was thinking of nuking it somehow, if i disconnect it mid-flash, will that put it beyond repair (from t-mobiles pov) and will they send a replacement? (Can they tell that, that is the cause of the fault?)
Thanks!
Probably not going to get anyone on the board to help you commit fraud but if you're industrious you can probabl figure something out.
I dont see them going for it.
You try to get it exchanged as not working when there is a dent in the screen?
Come up with a better excuse for the dent?
Like throw the whole thing at the floor and say someone knocked it out of your hand? :twisted:
haha
twist the screen 360degrees does the trick :twisted: and is still under tmobile warrenty
I doubt you need to wreck it, there are so many imperfections. Does your camera show dead pixels (very highly likely it does) then that qualifies for exchange. Does the lid creak badly? Does the metal plate at the top sit properly? Is the keyboard slightly misaligned?
Look and ye shall find glitches. Almost guaranteed sorry to say.
joebongo said:
I doubt you need to wreck it, there are so many imperfections. Does your camera show dead pixels (very highly likely it does) then that qualifies for exchange. Does the lid creak badly? Does the metal plate at the top sit properly? Is the keyboard slightly misaligned?
Look and ye shall find glitches. Almost guaranteed sorry to say.
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Actually yeah, my camera has got loads, and my screen has got 2 dead pixel. Are you sure thats enough to get a replacement? I'm sure it'll look dodgy if i say that, and they decline it, then i call back a few days later and say 'oh no, it died!' lol
Am i right in thinking that i've got to do this within the first 30 days of my contract? (I didnt take out insurance) and im assuming ill get a brand new replacement, not a refurb?
Ohh and last thing, i read on t-mobile.com that they send out the replacement first, then ONCE you've recieved that, you then send out your phone, is that the same process here in the UK?
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its usually 28 days, not 30!
Unless it's an upgrade.... I was told 7 days, and that's what the paperwork says too.... and if it's a replacement, it'll be a refurb if they have one, otherwise new... least that's what it was last year....
Hmmm :/
Do they send the replacement before they receive yours?
I called T-Mob about a problem on mine which is outside the 7days, but well within the years warranty, they said I have two options...
1) Go to a T-Mobile store, where you can get a loan phone (an old nokia...) while yours is being repaired/replaced
2) They will send you a jiffy bag for pre-paid postage, post it off (no loan phone) and will replace/repair within 5 working days.
Don't know if this is the same if it's within your cancellation period....
Hmmm i'll probably take it to a store then.
If i DO decided to flash it, and pull the plug 1/2 way through, will they know for DEFINATE that it was due to me trying to flash it, and is it recoverable?
Thanks!
Pooper said:
Hmmm i'll probably take it to a store then.
If i DO decided to flash it, and pull the plug 1/2 way through, will they know for DEFINATE that it was due to me trying to flash it, and is it recoverable?
Thanks!
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Don't know if it always is recoverable, but I've recovered a BA and a UNI that mucked up during flashing
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Pooper said:
Hmmm i'll probably take it to a store then.
If i DO decided to flash it, and pull the plug 1/2 way through, will they know for DEFINATE that it was due to me trying to flash it, and is it recoverable?
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Don't know if it always is recoverable, but I've recovered a BA and a UNI that mucked up during flashing
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Might try frying it. hmm might blow up the microwave though lol, or i might try attaching it to the mains.. hm although that's kinda. life threatening lol
Gah, such an annoying situation lol
Pooper said:
Might try frying it. hmm might blow up the microwave though lol, or i might try attaching it to the mains.. hm although that's kinda. life threatening lol
Gah, such an annoying situation lol
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dude do be careful when doing those since it would probably affect your microwave/house property warranty as well ...
That's a good point... is it worth risking it, just for a dent on a phone??
ok screw it, i have a plan:
Car battery + jump leads + MDA Pro = dead phone (at least, i hope!) lol
I Have done similar with a laptop months ago... I cut a usb cable in half and injected 15v (the power from the laptops actual charger) into the usb port fried the motherboad good and proper! and got a full replacement. hope this helps
You all do realise that this is *fraud*, carrying anything up to serious jailtime, we're discussing here? And that this is a medium where what you say is not only completely public, so accessible to (agents of) the people you're defrauding, but also permanently recorded to be used as evidence against you?
Furthermore, you do realise that defrauding HTC in this manner makes all the rest of our honest folk's devices that much more expensive?
Not to mention that if they refuse to honour your warranty, say because they know how to google, that you've gone from a fully functional PDA with a little dent to a doorstop.
just tell them that the dent was there when u got it, and didn't think to swap it straight away, act DUMB.

dust under the lcd?.... my story!

so i got the dreaded dust under my lcd screen even with a screen protector on. i went to a sprint service center and they tried to clean it out and couldn't get all of it. they said they have seen many hero's with this issue and of course it is well known on the net. sprint says htc is working on a fix? so my question to them was, when they fix it will they repair our hero's or will we get another phone? sprint claims they will notify owners when the fix is ready. i have no idea what this means but they are very aware of it! bottom line is it is a manufacturer and sprint defect and im getting a new hero shipped out to me in a few days. where or not this one gets dust is yet to be seen but im very unhappy right now!
ive gone through 4 defective brand new sprint phones in 6 months. i love the hero but if my replacement gets dust im selling it for another device.
any of you guys have this issue yet?
I have it in my Hero as well. I bought at release, and the problem really escalated in late December. Now there is a huge explosion shaped area of dust coming from the bottom left corner of my screen. I'd show a picture if i had a camera other than my phone.
Issue is widly known, but I thought they already had a fix for this. Wasn't hardware version 2 a fixed model? Seems like they put something in between the phone body and screen. Maybe I am thinking about my old Storm, but I thought this had been fixed in all new models.
fixxxer2008 said:
so i got the dreaded dust under my lcd screen even with a screen protector on. i went to a sprint service center and they tried to clean it out and couldn't get all of it. they said they have seen many hero's with this issue and of course it is well known on the net. sprint says htc is working on a fix? so my question to them was, when they fix it will they repair our hero's or will we get another phone? sprint claims they will notify owners when the fix is ready. i have no idea what this means but they are very aware of it! bottom line is it is a manufacturer and sprint defect and im getting a new hero shipped out to me in a few days. where or not this one gets dust is yet to be seen but im very unhappy right now!
ive gone through 4 defective brand new sprint phones in 6 months. i love the hero but if my replacement gets dust im selling it for another device.
any of you guys have this issue yet?
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i have dust im dealing with it man. its annoying but im sucking it up cause i love my hero well until i get the wimax that sprint is suppose to release then its gone lol
kramboid said:
I have it in my Hero as well. I bought at release, and the problem really escalated in late December. Now there is a huge explosion shaped area of dust coming from the bottom left corner of my screen. I'd show a picture if i had a camera other than my phone.
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call sprint for a replacement, they will do it for you. from what the tech told me, htc is working on another hero device that will be the replacement for our defective ones. they think we will all get a free upgrade as long as we can proove we have a dusty phone.
Kcarpenter said:
Issue is widly known, but I thought they already had a fix for this. Wasn't hardware version 2 a fixed model? Seems like they put something in between the phone body and screen. Maybe I am thinking about my old Storm, but I thought this had been fixed in all new models.
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there is no current fix for the hero, htc is 'working on it". it must be a defective seal on the lcd.
fixxxer2008 said:
call sprint for a replacement, they will do it for you. from what the tech told me, htc is working on another hero device that will be the replacement for our defective ones. they think we will all get a free upgrade as long as we can proove we have a dusty phone.
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The tech is wrong.. He was just trying to get you out of the store..
No company is ever going to give free upgrades when the complaint about the phone is a little dust under the screen ...............................................................................
Think about what you just said..
Its stupid to put any phone in your pocket,(ie Blackberry trackballs etc) and that issue is a direct result of a condition you have personally put your phone in..
Neither sprint, nor HTC is responsible for shoddy electronic upkeep.
mine has dust on the left botton corner too.. it's a revision 2 model...
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Its stupid to put any phone in your pocket
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Umm, im gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that statement right there lol. Phones can go in pockets, and the dust IS a design flaw. BUT on the other hand, I just took it apart and clean it up when it happened to me, and it has looked brand new ever since
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
The tech is wrong.. He was just trying to get you out of the store..
No company is ever going to give free upgrades when the complaint about the phone is a little dust under the screen ...............................................................................
Think about what you just said..
Its stupid to put any phone in your pocket,(ie Blackberry trackballs etc) and that issue is a direct result of a condition you have personally put your phone in..
Neither sprint, nor HTC is responsible for shoddy electronic upkeep.
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what the hell are you talking about? it is a defect and they will fix it. it has nothing to do with how you carry it. think before you talk!
if it 'wasn't an issue they wouldn't replace it, would they!
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? it is a defect and they will fix it.
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It's a defect??
So an issue that 1/1,000,000 Hero's has is a defect? Just because something is "widespread on the internet" doesn't mean its a defect. Just because 25 people have an issue doesn't mean its a defect. That 25 people is only a small small fraction of the entire market..
Just because it happened to you, doesn't make it important. If you took the same care of your cell phone, that you do with everything else you own, you wouldn't be in this predicament..
Get rid of your sense of entitlement, and think before you talk...
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/23679?start=0&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec
that's how big this issue is, i cannot believe they cannot fix this or do a recall. i may have no choice but to buy a different phone.
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
It's a defect??
So an issue that 1/1,000,000 Hero's has is a defect? Just because something is "widespread on the internet" doesn't mean its a defect. Just because 25 people have an issue doesn't mean its a defect. That 25 people is only a small small fraction of the entire market..
Just because it happened to you, doesn't make it important. If you took the same care of your cell phone, that you do with everything else you own, you wouldn't be in this predicament..
Get rid of your sense of entitlement, and think before you talk...
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i don't care if i get banned but your an ass, read the link i posted, this is a well known issue. wait till you get the dust and see how annoying it is to pay $500 for a 'quality" phone and be told to just deal with it.
do us a favor and don't respond, your posts are stupider by the minute.
Its funny...
I don't have dust... And I take care of my phone....
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At the risk of feeding the troll I just want to say the following:
I just returned a phone I'd had for 2 weeks due to the dust under the LCD screen issue. I can assure you quite thoroughly that I took care of the phone. The people at Sprint knew about the issue and replaced it with no problems.
1. I don't now, nor have I ever carried my phone in my pocket.
2. The phone has a case, with belt clip. I carry it there.
3. I had a screen protector on the phone.
4. The dust appeared after the 3rd day.
5. I lint-free cloth cleaned my screen each evening.
Just because you were one of the lucky ones who got the phone without issues doesn't automatically mean that you're the only one who knows how to take care of your phone. People who spend 500-600.00 on a phone generally take REALLY good care of them.
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Its funny...
I don't have dust... And I take care of my phone....
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your a troll, so yeah the hundreds of people with dust treat their phones like ****?..... please!
not to sound like a troll, but here's my story
i take EXCELLENT care of my phone, like its almost sad how much i love this phone and don't want anything to happen to it. everytime after i use it i wipe it off, wash my hands before handling, i put it in a ziploc bag anytime there may be moisture around.... the list goes on
my girlfriend on the other hand... she has a with google hero and her phone rolls around in her purse all day, one night she lost it and i found it under a couch cushion, she's dropped it (she has one of those bodyglove cases on it) and it came apart into about 6 pieces, three times that i know of, dropped it in spaghetti, the list goes on and on and on....
she doesn't take care of it at all,
but yet i have dust under my screen and she doesn't.
it's not about who takes better care of the device, it's about who gets what device to begin with. imo.
i had dust under my screen and my buttons (end call/ power and call) had the metal flaking off really bad
i brought it to the sprint store that had the service center and they gave me basically brand new housing for free. they replaced the whole front so my trackball is clear and it looks brand new
all for free!
Leukay said:
Umm, im gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that statement right there lol. Phones can go in pockets, and the dust IS a design flaw. BUT on the other hand, I just took it apart and clean it up when it happened to me, and it has looked brand new ever since
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Did you remove the screen too, or how did you go about it?
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Did you remove the screen too, or how did you go about it?
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i wouldn't try it, id go to a repair center.

the hero is defective, i have proof!

i know how the dust in getting in our phones, there is a defective seal between the body & the lcd. how do i have proof? i went to install a screen protector today and the solution leaked underneath the lcd and leaves staining and a fog. i had to put my hero in a bag of dry rice to preserve & dry it. no other phone i have had, had this issue when installing a screen protector, im only using a small amount of water spray too, not a ton.
nebenezer said:
I hope you got pictures, and then called your lawyer!!
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come on man, im serious here, this is an issue that htc should of fixed. they wouldn't sell those screen protectors to damage your phone. i only used a very small amount of the spray they provide, you have to use the credit card to squeeze the bubbles out.
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come on man, im serious here, this is an issue that htc should of fixed. they wouldn't sell those screen protectors to damage your phone.
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I actually agree, for some reason I am just unable to pass up an opportunity to give you $h1t
Fortunately I have been one of the lucky few who have no dust under my screen and my call/end button paint shows no wear at all. My hero looks as new today as it did on 3/12/2009 when I got it.
I was serious though about getting photographic documentation, not sure what you would do with it but if you ad an opportunity to tell someone who could do something about it you would be glad you took the pics (ie, emailing someone at htc or sprint, or even proving the defect to customer service in order to get a replacement)
*edit- You bought the screen protector from HTC? I put a full zagg shield on mine a couple months ago and was very paranoid about the solution getting down in the crack between the bottom of the screen and the button plate but I was lucky, no problems.
nebenezer said:
I actually agree, for some reason I am just unable to pass up an opportunity to give you $h1t
Fortunately I have been one of the lucky few who have no dust under my screen and my call/end button paint shows no wear at all. My hero looks as new today as it did on 3/12/2009 when I got it.
I was serious though about getting photographic documentation, not sure what you would do with it but if you ad an opportunity to tell someone who could do something about it you would be glad you took the pics (ie, emailing someone at htc or sprint, or even proving the defect to customer service in order to get a replacement)
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i may give sprint a call tonight, just upsets me is all. i love the phone but damn i didn't need this today. come to think of it, i may give htc a ring, im sure they must be aware of this, maybe i can get a new phone from them?
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i may give sprint a call tonight, just upsets me is all. i love the phone but damn i didn't need this today.
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dude, I think you need some perspective. You have insurance, right? Forget the deductible, if you go in and use the correct words in the correct order you can easily walk out with a brand new phone... just saying.
nebenezer said:
dude, I think you need some perspective. You have insurance, right? Forget the deductible, if you go in and use the correct words in the correct order you can easily walk out with a brand new phone... just saying.
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probably, yes.... i just checked the phone and the fog is gone but there is a highly noticeable water stain under the lcd at the top left corner of the phone. im trying to dry it out as we speak. too late to go to sprint today but i may call them and htc to see what they are willing to do. i assume the invisible shields do not void your warranty at all since some sprint stores & best buy carry them?
fixxxer2008 said:
probably, yes.... i just checked the phone and the fog is gone but there is a highly noticeable water stain under the lcd at the top left corner of the phone. im trying to dry it out as we speak. too late to go to sprint today but i may call them and htc to see what they are willing to do. i assume the invisible shields do not void your warranty at all since some sprint stores & best buy carry them?
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The experience you had today will in no way void your warranty unless you let it. You are the customer, be a customer who's business they want to keep and they will bend over backwards to help you, I have proven this theory many times
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ok, it should of been fixed the minute they knew about the dust getting under there. i think i have proof of a defective seal, when a small amount of spray causes staining & fog underneath. i just called htc and their warranty department is closed, figures!
fixxxer2008 said:
probably, yes.... i just checked the phone and the fog is gone but there is a highly noticeable water stain under the lcd at the top left corner of the phone. im trying to dry it out as we speak. too late to go to sprint today but i may call them and htc to see what they are willing to do. i assume the invisible shields do not void your warranty at all since some sprint stores & best buy carry them?
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Eh...good luck. You've got water underneath your screen via a third party screen protective solution.
The liquid wouldnt have entered your screen had you not administered it. Water can creep through even the smallest of openings.
I highly doubt things are going to work in your favor if you enter a Sprint store. I'm not aware of any corporate Sprint location that advocates a screen solution that requires even the smallest amount of liquid since liquid damage is something that must be handled by the insurance company, Asurion, that many wireless providers work through.
Its worth a shot. Just dont be completely disappointed if the Sprint store doesnt respond in your favor.
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Eh...good luck. You've got water underneath your screen via a third party screen protective solution.
The liquid wouldnt have entered your screen had you not administered it. Water can creep through even the smallest of openings.
I highly doubt things are going to work in your favor if you enter a Sprint store. I'm not aware of any corporate Sprint location that advocates a screen solution that requires even the smallest amount of liquid since liquid damage is something that must be handled by the insurance company, Asurion, that many wireless providers work through.
Its worth a shot. Just dont be completely disappointed if the Sprint store doesnt respond in your favor.
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Sprint stores as well as Best Buy both install screen protectors, so I doubt that would be an issue.
Umm...not to be rude here, but that's been a known issue for a while. It's not new. Anyone who's had the dust issue (myself included) has known about the seal under the screen leaking.
Yes it's defective. If you put up enough of a fuss they'll replace it with a refurb which will likely have the same problem.
I'm one of the lucky ones. I bought mine at best buy, got it replaced, and haven't had the problem since. It appears HTC had a bad batch (well a lot of them, really) for about 6-8 months. They fixed the problem after that, but the good ones are mixed in with the old ones. It's a crapshoot as to whether you'll get one without a dust problem.
I always get screen protectors that have built in sticky solution. never had the dust problem either.
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I'll just put it like this, its not that I don't believe people are having these issues its just that they are exaggerating it completely out of proportion.
I have a Htc Hero(With Google) made in 2009, came with the 1.56 RUU Installed. I have 1 (READ 1) dead pixel on my entire screen, the case has no paint chips, no dust under the screen, buttons show no wear(its not paint...), my speakers work and sound great, I get a full signal in 90% of places, Calls never drop, hardware is fast if you know what your doing and tweak it, you can run 2.1 perfectly if you know what your doing, no battery issues whatsoever.
So yeah... a dead pixel... I'm completely returning my hero to Sprint for that. (not)
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I also have a dead pixel. And I'm not returning it for that reason, either.
But I feel I need to set you straight on a few issues.
#1. The dust issue is real. While I personally didn't wait until I had half my screen covered with it to replace it, I've seen pics (here I believe) where the phone is virtually unusable due to the dust. I had a small amount of dust. But why shouldn't I return it? Why should I spend a bunch of money on a defective piece of hardware? If it's not properly functioning when brand new I'm returning it. Which is what I did, and lucked out.
#2. Button wear. I've never had this problem (only had the phone a couple of months) but my wife has. Whether it's paint, or dye, or what have you, those things can and do flake. There are also images of it on these forums if you search for them.
#3. Never had a speaker problem.
#4. You seem to be extremely fortunate about where you live/drive/work then. Because signal issues happen if you do any travelling.
#5. I don't get people with battery problems either. I have the stock battery and can go all day (12-14 hours) and use 50% or less of the battery.
Anyhow, I doubt the people that are having the issues you mention are exaggerating, and at least in the case of the flaking buttons and dust I know from experience they're as bad as people make it out to be.
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exactly, plus they sell them as well. it wouldn't void my warranty under water damage because the water indicator sticker is intact and there are no signs of water damage. i doubt a small amount of solution would seep under the screen unless it was defective. im about to call sprint and demand a brand new hero or a samsung moment as im on my 3rd phone now. besides the fact the 3rd phone they sent me was suppose to be new and it's a refurb with over 700 calls made from it. im really about to not buy htc or sprint anymore and maybe move to another carrier.
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I'm not aware of any corporate Sprint Store that would install a screen protector that uses any form of a liquid. The screen protectors that Sprint stores sell are a stick film. Nothing that requires liquid to apply.
Best Buy stores do sell and install these...but you're not going to Best Buy for a replacement unit generally. I'm sure they'll turn you away.
well forget sprint, they said the most that will happen is to give me another refurbish, they need to all be on the same page. some say you get new phones and some say they give you used ones. after 3 phones im entitled to a new one or another comparable model. so i guess my last hope is to call htc on monday, after that im dropping my contract and going to t-mobile or verizon. maybe the issue is they give people used phones and not new ones, they need to start backing up their warranties because it seems to me they are just cheap as hell.
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yeah but it's a legit complaint, im not just ranting. the dust & seal issue are known issues on the net. to me sprint just doesn't care about their customers. every one of their workers give you different answers, no one is on the same page.
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Had the phone since day -2 and have yet to have one speck of dust under the screen yet. And mines the without google branding. You probably just need to stop whining or stop messing up YOUR phone =P
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exactly, plus they sell them as well. it wouldn't void my warranty under water damage because the water indicator sticker is intact and there are no signs of water damage. i doubt a small amount of solution would seep under the screen unless it was defective. im about to call sprint and demand a brand new hero or a samsung moment as im on my 3rd phone now. besides the fact the 3rd phone they sent me was suppose to be new and it's a refurb with over 700 calls made from it. im really about to not buy htc or sprint anymore and maybe move to another carrier.
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Who said you were entitled to a "New" Hero? Did you get it through insurance? If not, then you're not entitled to a "New" Hero.
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Who said you were entitled to a "New" Hero? Did you get it through insurance? If not, then you're not entitled to a "New" Hero.
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all replacements were done through sprint and my 2nd one was a brand new phone. the tech told me last week that if my 3rd one acts up im entitled to a another compatible phone model such as the moment. now they are telling me something different. to me the $7 insurance i pay for every month is apparently worthless.
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all replacements were done through sprint and my 2nd one was a brand new phone. the tech told me last week that if my 3rd one acts up im entitled to a another compatible phone model such as the moment. now they are telling me something different. to me the $7 insurance i pay for every month is apparently worthless.
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Yep the 3 phones for virtually nothing compared to how much you would of had to pay.
Why do we even bother with the $7?

[Q] Just dropped my phone off my nightstand, there's a crack. Can I get it replaced?

Heh, critics weren't lying when they said the Galaxy S4 is way more fragile than the S3. I knocked off my nightstand in the middle of the night, landed on my wooden floor and have this dumb hairline crack.
The phone is only 5 days old and this may seem like a dumb question but is it possible for AT&T to switch it out?
Unless you have cell phone insurance, probably not.... I would try to say it was in your pocket and then when you took it out it cracked....
Oh my goodness! I'm so sorry to see that. I read that there was a possible recall because of easy screen fracture, perhaps you can search the forums and find link. I hope you're able to get it resolved to your satisfaction. Be sure and let us know how it goes if you try to swap it out with AT&T.
Seeing the picture that you posted just makes me want to put this phone inside of case, even though I know it will make it look hideous!
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It looks like it was in a case?
davefeelsright said:
Heh, critics weren't lying when they said the Galaxy S4 is way more fragile than the S3. I knocked off my nightstand in the middle of the night, landed on my wooden floor and have this dumb hairline crack.
The phone is only 5 days old and this may seem like a dumb question but is it possible for AT&T to switch it out?
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OP I think you can sign up online for insurance within 14 days of getting the phone. Check your plan/phone options on AT&T website. You do not have to prove to them that the phone is in impeccable condition.
You might want to look into 3rd party insurance that covers that type of thing, such as Square Trade for future phone purchases. Accidents will happen, but most warranties don't cover things like this.
And in terms of the crack itself, I think this proves what I always suspected about Gorilla Glass 3 - it is stronger by design, so they make the layer thinner so the phone is thinner. The layer of smaller thickness is just as strong (hopefully not less strong) than the thicker layer of GG2 on SGS3.
With the screen larger than the one on SGS3, there is less bezel on sides of the screen, less support for the glass layer, and that makes the whole screen less rigid.
davefeelsright said:
Heh, critics weren't lying when they said the Galaxy S4 is way more fragile than the S3. I knocked off my nightstand in the middle of the night, landed on my wooden floor and have this dumb hairline crack.
The phone is only 5 days old and this may seem like a dumb question but is it possible for AT&T to switch it out?
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Yeah unfortunately I did the same thing, and mine got a crack in it, what is really unfortunate is the fact that the lcd touchscreen and glass may be glued or so close together, you might have to get the whole thing fixed and samsung charges 169.95 to do it and I've been told if you wait a few months it will get cheaper, but I don't know by how much.
Otterbox defeats these incidents ...dropped mine out of an airplane 15 ft and not a single scratch...
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kreoXDA said:
OP I think you can sign up online for insurance within 14 days of getting the phone. Check your plan/phone options on AT&T website. You do not have to prove to them that the phone is in impeccable condition.
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Around here.. we call that insurance fraud =\
Also, he'd have to pay a $199.99 deductible
Yze said:
Around here.. we call that insurance fraud =\
Also, he'd have to pay a $199.99 deductible
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It is not fraud. You are NOT obliged to have a functioning device while signing up for this insurance online. They just make the sign up window short, to protect themselves.
But speaking of this insurance, yes, i just checked, AT&T will charge you $199 deductible for SGS4!!!!!!!!!! That is on top of $7/month ($84/year) they want you to pay for insurance.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/en_US/pdf/wireless-phone-insurance-deductible-schedule.pdf
Better to invest in the ugly (to some) otterbox or kraken.
unless you have insurance, or you must pay some money for this damage:laugh:
Sorry for not posting, I've been busy with work.
An update: I talked to AT&T and told them I received the phone like that and must have happened when it was shipped. There's no physical damage as I can tell. The crack is on the inside of the screen. I sent the phone out to them and they said they'll inspect it and ship me a new one.
I would def recommend getting a case, something that can survive a fall because I had a case on this but it's pretty lightweight compared to others.
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Sorry for not posting, I've been busy with work.
An update: I talked to AT&T and told them I received the phone like that and must have happened with it was shipped. There's no physical damage as can tell. The crack is on the inside of the screen. I sent the phone out to them and they said they'll inspect it and ship me a new one.
I would def recommend getting a case, something that can survive a fall because I had a case on this but it's pretty lightweight compared to others.
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Maybe I missed it. But did you have any kind of case on it at all?
While on this topic, it should be noted that many major credit cards offer protection for free against exactly this kind of stuff. I know Amex does.
hamzer11 said:
Maybe I missed it. But did you have any kind of case on it at all?
While on this topic, it should be noted that many major credit cards offer protection for free against exactly this kind of stuff. I know Amex does.
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i had this one on:
http://www.amazon.com/HoneyComb-Pro...368721019&sr=8-1&keywords=honeycomb+galaxy+s4
it's so lightweight and didn't really protect anything.
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i had this one on:
http://www.amazon.com/HoneyComb-Pro...368721019&sr=8-1&keywords=honeycomb+galaxy+s4
it's so lightweight and didn't really protect anything.
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Damn that sucks. Sometimes it's just the angle of the hit that gets you. I'm wondering if it caught a corner or edge of something on the screen. It really sucks if the glass cracked from the tension produced by the corner of the shell hitting the ground.
davefeelsright said:
Heh, critics weren't lying when they said the Galaxy S4 is way more fragile than the S3. I knocked off my nightstand in the middle of the night, landed on my wooden floor and have this dumb hairline crack.
The phone is only 5 days old and this may seem like a dumb question but is it possible for AT&T to switch it out?
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Just keep it and use it until we can buy replacement screens.
http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Glass-Samsung-Galaxy-i9500/dp/B00C9VATVS/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1368721879&sr=8-10&keywords=galaxy+s4+lcd+replacement

would you?

I have a chip the size of a point of a pen on the side chrome bezel. I have no case because Im waiting for my UAG and Spigen case to arrive. Im still within my 14 day return period. I thought about actually taking it back to get a replacement due to the small blemish, although, I admit it's kind of silly to exchange the phone for something so small. It just sucks that my baby is not perfect any more. Knowing I have an opportunity to exchange it, I just might. How many of you would exchange it for a new one for something so small?
i wouldn't
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I would not.
But, since it is already bugging you enough to ask people's opinion about it now, you'll probably come to regret it eventually if you don't.
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outkast22 said:
I have a chip the size of a point of a pen on the side chrome bezel. I have no case because Im waiting for my UAG and Spigen case to arrive. Im still within my 14 day return period. I thought about actually taking it back to get a replacement due to the small blemish, although, I admit it's kind of silly to exchange the phone for something so small. It just sucks that my baby is not perfect any more. Knowing I have an opportunity to exchange it, I just might. How many of you would exchange it for a new one for something so small?
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I have this too! Mine was like this from the factory. Was pretty upset when I saw it even though it's so minor. Thought about doing the same thing but I don't think it's really worth the trouble. But let me know how it goes if you do
my note just fell off the night stand onto tile with no case. I will be exchanging it tomorrow. lol
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I have a chip the size of a point of a pen on the side chrome bezel. I have no case because Im waiting for my UAG and Spigen case to arrive. Im still within my 14 day return period. I thought about actually taking it back to get a replacement due to the small blemish, although, I admit it's kind of silly to exchange the phone for something so small. It just sucks that my baby is not perfect any more. Knowing I have an opportunity to exchange it, I just might. How many of you would exchange it for a new one for something so small?
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If I find a defect or blemish on a new phone, that was a manufacturing issue, I may return it for replacement. If I caused the issue and it was minor, I'd ignore it because a case will hide it anyways.
If it was a serious damage... cracked screen, etc.. and it was my fault, I'd just pay the insurance to get it replaced.
Note: I'd also be more descriptive in my subject/title if you want to get more response.. Instead of "would you?" I would have put "Would you return your Note 3 if it has a blemish?"
Breach said:
If I find a defect or blemish on a new phone, that was a manufacturing issue, I may return it for replacement. If I caused the issue and it was minor, I'd ignore it because a case will hide it anyways.
If it was a serious damage... cracked screen, etc.. and it was my fault, I'd just pay the insurance to get it replaced.
Note: I'd also be more descriptive in my subject/title if you want to get more response.. Instead of "would you?" I would have put "Would you return your Note 3 if it has a blemish?"
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I would, why star with something that is already damaged specially being that this phone is so expensive ....
outkast22 said:
my note just fell off the night stand onto tile with no case. I will be exchanging it tomorrow. lol
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you've just admitted it's not a defect but it fell off your night stand onto the tile with no case. This would indicate physical damage so unless you have a flawless return policy, you may be out of luck. I know in Canada, if this were the case, we would be told to suck it up and be stuck with a device we would need to sell privately or wait before we're entitled to a hardware upgrade.
fantom305 said:
I would, why star with something that is already damaged specially being that this phone is so expensive ....
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The point is.. he didn't 'start' with a damaged phone. He dropped it and didn't have a case on it. I have a cheap $3 case on mine, until the case I want comes out. If you don't protect your phone and you drop it, it's your fault, not the manufacturers. That's my opinion anyways.
I have noticed the phone runs very warm sometimes when its just sitting in my pocket. I called at&t and they said to return it since Im still within 14 days.
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The point is.. he didn't 'start' with a damaged phone. He dropped it and didn't have a case on it. I have a cheap $3 case on mine, until the case I want comes out. If you don't protect your phone and you drop it, it's your fault, not the manufacturers. That's my opinion anyways.
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I respect your opinion but I was answering to the original poster, not the one that drop it from the night stand. In that one he doesn't say that he dropped his phone.
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I respect your opinion but I was answering to the original poster, not the one that drop it from the night stand. In that one he doesn't say that he dropped his phone.
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It's all good. I only responded to you post, because it appeared you were replying to my comment. It appears now that you just hit the wrong reply button. No harm man.
outkast22 said:
I have a chip the size of a point of a pen on the side chrome bezel. I have no case because Im waiting for my UAG and Spigen case to arrive. Im still within my 14 day return period. I thought about actually taking it back to get a replacement due to the small blemish, although, I admit it's kind of silly to exchange the phone for something so small. It just sucks that my baby is not perfect any more. Knowing I have an opportunity to exchange it, I just might. How many of you would exchange it for a new one for something so small?
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same here and its so annoying...
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outkast22 said:
my note just fell off the night stand onto tile with no case. I will be exchanging it tomorrow. lol
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GL with this. Let us know if your successful or not.
I dropped mine on concrete from about 1.5 feet up. Very little damage on the side, which I could EASILY live with.
Sadly, the entire display died slowly over a 24hr period. I kid you not, I could almost see the screen slowly die. Inside, I was crying.
But it was my fault, and almost got laughed out of the store when I tried to get insurance on it /facepalm.
Now I'm in the market for a full screen/digitizer/front assembly housing. And the phone isn't even 1 month old! /cry
For the price you've paid, you deserve a flawless product, return it and enjoy a full product. In other words go get a replacement!
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GL with this. Let us know if your successful or not.
I dropped mine on concrete from about 1.5 feet up. Very little damage on the side, which I could EASILY live with.
Sadly, the entire display died slowly over a 24hr period. I kid you not, I could almost see the screen slowly die. Inside, I was crying.
But it was my fault, and almost got laughed out of the store when I tried to get insurance on it /facepalm.
Now I'm in the market for a full screen/digitizer/front assembly housing. And the phone isn't even 1 month old! /cry
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I'm sorry but isn't that what insurance is for? Doesn't matter if you drop the phone in the toilet, you can still get a replacement, otherwise why have insurance in the 1st place, if the damage is from before you got it or Samsung's fault isn't that what the warranty is for....
Yes and get a different color.
Man I'm on the Otterbox Defender's notification list for when it becomes available. But I still dumped $20 on a screen guard and a crappy gel case at purchase. Solid investment for the short-term, and I even have replacement insurance. Sorry but I can't even fathom the amount of rage I'd have at myself for being in that predicament. I like to keep my stuff in mint condition for resale when it's time to upgrade.
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Ok Y'all. At&t replaced it today, no hassle. They even installed a brand new glass screen protector, no charge. I wish my cases would arrive already! For now Im putting in a invisishield sock.
Not worth the hassle as you might end up with a new unit with other characteristics, like wonky home button or gaps around the glass.

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