Was there a leaked update on the HD2 on 8/28 or 8/29 that I missed???? - HD2 General

I have heard rumors, but nothing substantiated....and a search is turning up nothing.....

Jimmmycrackcorn said:
I have heard rumors, but nothing substantiated....and a search is turning up nothing.....
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I keep an eye out for that kind of thing, and I have heard/seen nothing about that. Although, I do believe there were a number of new Android builds for the HD2 that came out right about then, are you sure it wasn't one of those that you heard about?

sirphunkee said:
I keep an eye out for that kind of thing, and I have heard/seen nothing about that. Although, I do believe there were a number of new Android builds for the HD2 that came out right about then, are you sure it wasn't one of those that you heard about?
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I read about it on the T-mobile forums. The person in question also stated that it was up on this website, but now the thread and all links have been removed/deleted.
Conspiracy?!?
Or BS???

Jimmmycrackcorn said:
I read about it on the T-mobile forums. The person in question also stated that it was up on this website, but now the thread and all links have been removed/deleted.
Conspiracy?!?
Or BS???
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Yeah if they pulled the thread and the links, I'd assume that someone called bs on it and they did what we would do here, and just trashed it. It's possible to that it was in reference to the release of some specific ROM (or ROM build) on that date, but my guess is that it was just someone trying to stir up trouble...you'd be surprised how often people actually do that in this type of environment

sirphunkee said:
Yeah if they pulled the thread and the links, I'd assume that someone called bs on it and they did what we would do here, and just trashed it. It's possible to that it was in reference to the release of some specific ROM (or ROM build) on that date, but my guess is that it was just someone trying to stir up trouble...you'd be surprised how often people actually do that in this type of environment
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Yeah, they quoted that the links were directly from HTC....not uploaded to this site or some other site. I'd post the link, but I'm not sure if that is kosher on this site (or the other).

Jimmmycrackcorn said:
Yeah, they quoted that the links were directly from HTC....not uploaded to this site or some other site. I'd post the link, but I'm not sure if that is kosher on this site (or the other).
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I just looked over HTC's official support pages for the HD2, and I don't seen any new updates of any type, not that recently anyway. If you have the link you can PM it to me and I'll check it out real quick and see if it's 1) valid, and 2) ok to post here.

sirphunkee said:
I just looked over HTC's official support pages for the HD2, and I don't seen any new updates of any type, not that recently anyway. If you have the link you can PM it to me and I'll check it out real quick and see if it's 1) valid, and 2) ok to post here.
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Check your inbox

K thanks Jimmy, I looked over the thread you sent from t-mobile's forums, and there's no problem posting the link here as far as I know (I'll post it below myself, just in case). But after reading it all I also couldn't find anything more substantial than just what that one member was reporting...which was just mostly that he'd seen "something" on HTC's site related to an update, that was supposedly later pulled down.
I'll note too that any updates for the US T-Mobile version of the HD2 wouldn't come from HTC's site anyway, they're only ever released (officially) through the T-Mobile support page for the phone. So, it's quite possible that even if there IS an update about to be released, it might only be for the euro version of the phone...and since official ROM updates always include a radio, it would likely be incompatible with the US model (i.e. it would brick any one that it was flashed to).
Here's the T-Mobile thread it was mentioned in:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-HD2/new-update/td-p/459563

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T-Mo OTA 2.1 Update

I searched through the forum, but found nothing relevant to my phone/carrier. Anyone heard anything about the 2.1 OTA update from T-Mobile?
jnp1974 said:
I searched through the forum, but found nothing relevant to my phone/carrier. Anyone heard anything about the 2.1 OTA update from T-Mobile?
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There are actuly hundreds of web pages that discuss this so you didnt do to much searching.
The 2.1 Android update will hit between Now and the end of May. Ranging from the NEW mytouch/Fender LE, Cliq, Cliq XD... The old 32b Mytouch will most likely not get a full 2.1... The G1 sure as hell cant handle 2.1, but supposedly a stripped version of 2.0 is being made for it.
Google Tmobile 2.1 ota update.
Can't wait. Stripped version or not.
I agree, it doesn't really matter if it's stripped down or not. It just means there will be driver for the 2.0+ roms... imagine the improvement this will make for the current eris and legend roms.
We need to close this thread. There are DOZENS of threads regarding the 2.1 update. Do we need another?
Wow, looks like no one ever had anything positive to say when you ask a question. Seems arrogance gets the best of "devs" these days. I pride myself in finding the information myself when needed, but according to some I didn't search enough. Now look, it's almost august and no 2.1 for a lot of devices. You could have simply resisted the urge to share your arrogance and just not posted at all. Thanks for truly helping, you are a credit to the human race!
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jnp1974 said:
Wow, looks like no one ever had anything positive to say when you ask a question. Seems arrogance gets the best of "devs" these days. I pride myself in finding the information myself when needed, but according to some I didn't search enough. Now look, it's almost august and no 2.1 for a lot of devices. You could have simply resisted the urge to share your arrogance and just not posted at all. Thanks for truly helping, you are a credit to the human race!
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The update got changed from Android 2.1 to 2.2 and it is scheduled to be released sometime in august according to a leaked document from tmobile. Feel free to google it if you like.
jnp1974 said:
Wow, looks like no one ever had anything positive to say when you ask a question. Seems arrogance gets the best of "devs" these days. I pride myself in finding the information myself when needed, but according to some I didn't search enough. Now look, it's almost august and no 2.1 for a lot of devices. You could have simply resisted the urge to share your arrogance and just not posted at all. Thanks for truly helping, you are a credit to the human race!
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I agree with the rest of the guys, just thought I should jump in! You sir, should search.
KAwAtA said:
I agree with the rest of the guys, just thought I should jump in! You sir, should search.
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Alright. That's enough!
I'm going to "jump in" and close this redundant thread.
@OP, NOBODY in this forum knows exactly when or even if the update will be released. Anyone that says otherwise is misleading you. Even if the person has reliable information through reliable sources it is still up to the carrier to release the update and I don't have to tell you how much can change at the last minute thus making those reliable sources unreliable.
If you want any information about future OTA updates contact your provider.
If they don't know then what makes you think that any of us does?
Thread closed.

someone found something

Can't post link since I'm a newbie so Google Zifnab06. This person found a exploit. Said it has to do with fastboot. If someone with privileges could plz post the link when they find the thread plz. Thanx
drewlamo1 said:
Can't post link since I'm a newbie so Google Zifnab06. This person found a exploit. Said it has to do with fastboot. If someone with privileges could plz post the link when they find the thread plz. Thanx
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I think you must be referring to this:
http://www.zifnab06.net/2010/05/possible-root-exploit/
Sounds like there is some potential there, but we will have to see if anyone can turn the overflow into something useful.
I just took that update yesterday too...lol
Problem is this news is three days old and nothing new has come of it. I'm skeptical that he ran into a roadblock.
Gimpeh said:
Problem is this news is three days old and nothing new has come of it. I'm skeptical that he ran into a roadblock.
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"IF i can learn arm assembly, then this shouldn’t be too hard."
Maybe he's working on that.
Anything new is a small glimmer of hope for me...lol
If hope is what you need then you should join us in irc.
I'm on there...
##incredibleroot
What channel r u on?
SoCalMiles said:
I'm on there...
##incredibleroot
What channel r u on?
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Same, not idling right now though. Break time at work.
This is my favorite thread title ever.
What update should we not go passed, I took the update for the exchange server fix, i am currently on 2.1-update1.
How do we stop taking updates? the last one went automatically for me
rusty105 said:
What update should we not go passed, I took the update for the exchange server fix, i am currently on 2.1-update1.
How do we stop taking updates? the last one went automatically for me
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Not sure about this 'opportunity' but that update included a recovery update which could have patch a yet unknown/released bug.
I hate to give bad news, but I'm about 99% sure that the exploit is for the Droid Eris. He mentions leaks (there have been 3 leaks for the Eris) and this was first posted by Zifnab on the Eris forum the other day.
This MAY have provide some insight into a possible root method for the incredible, but, personally, I am not optimistic considering all of the time between releases, the newer kernel, etc.
Sorry everyone.
he does seem to be working mainly on the eris but the main reason i posted it was because he says in this thread that it should work on any HTC device that uses fastboot.
while i know squat about the area, i figured it was worth linking to.
This looks interesting and useful, even if the information is for the Eris the post says it would work on all HTC devices with fastboot.
All HTC devices come with fastboot so if this is real its most credible post to hit the forums for the incredible.
1Way
Head over to the XDA Eris section and talk to him about what he's doing.

Google announcing Gingerbread soon?

Here's a tweet from @Googlemobile:
Our cafes are baking something sweet http://twitpic.com/3682u2 (4 minutes ago via web)
I know i won't be able to install the ota since i'm rooted, but i'm excited nonetheless!
Mo_Nexus said:
Here's a tweet from @Googlemobile:
Our cafes are baking something sweet http://twitpic.com/3682u2 (4 minutes ago via web)
I know i won't be able to install the ota since i'm rooted, but i'm excited nonetheless!
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Did this honestly need another thread?
Oh ****! Not another thread about Gingerbread!!!
This is getting so old...
Oh no, not another complaint about another thread!
Relax, it's not like i'm killing trees or taking up space by posting this. I didn't have time to go through the entire forum just to make sure i didn't hurt your feelings. A popup appeared showing possible similar threads, none of them matched, so i submitted it. No need to cry about it.
Thanks.
Mo_Nexus said:
Oh no, not another complaint about another thread!
Relax, it's not like i'm killing trees or taking up space by posting this. I didn't have time to go through the entire forum just to make sure i didn't hurt your feelings. A popup appeared showing possible similar threads, none of them matched, so i submitted it. No need to cry about it.
Thanks.
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There are about 5 GB threads on the first page. Maybe you should start a few more because it will do a lot of good for all of us.
gibosn6594 said:
There are about 5 GB threads on the first page. Maybe you should start a few more because it will do a lot of good for all of us.
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Sure no prob!
To all the complainers, why are you clicking on the threads then?
Mo_Nexus, thanks for the info.
OP, thank you for posting the information. While I wouldn't have created a new thread
myself it still is new news nonetheless so I appreciate it.
Hopefully the mods either lock the excess threads or merge them to de-clutter the forum.
verboten said:
To all the complainers, why are you clicking on the threads then?
Mo_Nexus, thanks for the info.
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No problem Verboten, and thank you for the comment, i appreciate it.
verboten said:
To all the complainers, why are you clicking on the threads then?
Mo_Nexus, thanks for the info.
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Because we can't tell from the thread titles exactly what's in the post.
gibosn6594 said:
Because we can't tell from the thread titles exactly what's in the post.
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I can understand if the thread title was Google announcing Gingerbread!!!
But it's "Google announcing Gingerbread soon?"
With most thread titles, no one can tell exactly whats in the posts.
Just wait for the thread title "Gingerbread is here!!" and click no others than. Simple.
ap3604 said:
OP, thank you for posting the information. While I wouldn't have created a new thread
myself it still is new news nonetheless so I appreciate it.
Hopefully the mods either lock the excess threads or merge them to de-clutter the forum.
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No problem, and i agree, all existing threads should consolidated or something. Hopefully there'll be no need for that if Google stops teasing us & releases 2.3 already.
Cool dude, thanks for the info and welcome this a public forum and everyone share his knowledge, always here like this, when someone post anything even said hi u will see many of the guys here saying sucks comment. THIS IS JUST HOW IT IS. keep going and when u have something to post don't think a lot, JUST POST, if i want to read i will read if i don't i will leave u just thanks
Mo_Nexus said:
No problem, and i agree, all existing threads should consolidated or something. Hopefully there'll be no need for that if Google stops teasing us & releases 2.3 already.
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Google is not teasing us, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PATIENCE, and the thing is when Google release the gingerbread we will start complain THIS ALSO JUST HOW IT IS
NICEGYPT said:
Google is not teasing us
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actually they are teasing with us. they just dont bother their sorry ass to give a proper release date. they just dont even care about to give out an spesifications about the new system. nothing. just some fake news also new screenshots could be fake too. we simply dont know anything about new update. 4 example is the new crappy youtube app staying? what about horrible keyboard?
it just could be stupid update without any new features. also it could be something revolutionary like eclair. but we already knew them BEFORE the eclair released. were just waiting for google's jokes if whole gingerbread is just about some stupid skin and stuff.
korhanes said:
actually they are teasing with us. they just dont bother their sorry ass to give a proper release date. they just dont even care about to give out an spesifications about the new system. nothing. just some fake news also new screenshots could be fake too. we simply dont know anything about new update. 4 example is the new crappy youtube app staying? what about horrible keyboard?
it just could be stupid update without any new features. also it could be something revolutionary like eclair. but we already knew them BEFORE the eclair released. were just waiting for google's jokes if whole gingerbread is just about some stupid skin and stuff.
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Please tell me english isn't your native language, I'll totally understand then. Anyhow Google have 0 commitment to providing us with pre-release info. It's *UNRELEASED* therefore they could deny the existence of GB itself and are completely within their right to do so. These little bits of info like not so secretive tweets are just a bit of fun, surely I'm not the only one who likes the suspense/surprise regarding the lack of GB info?

[Q] What is NoDo ?

Hi
What is NoDo?
Thanks
Amedeus
NoDo is an update to WP7 by Microsoft scheduled for March 2011.
Next big update is called Mango and is scheduled Q3/2011. This should bring multitasking an other stuff...
Does that mean that NoDo is 7.7008 as this is an update just released ?
No, as I know, the 7008 is an Update to improve the update capabilities to install further updates.
NoDo is 7389, I think.
So what does NoDO stand for?
Specifically - it is short for 'No Donuts'. Actually, it means nothing - it's just a name. It could just as easily be a reference number.
Gustopher said:
Specifically - it is short for 'No Donuts'. Actually, it means nothing - it's just a name. It could just as easily be a reference number.
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It is a poke at Android as all of Androids versions have had a name to do with pastry. You know Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, and now Honeycomb. It is just a way for Microsoft to make fun of Android publicly and not get sued for it lol. Look at the name of the next update, Mangoo which is a fruit. Fruit is suppose to be good for you and pastries are not get it? I think it is funny myself.
T-Macgnolia said:
It is a poke at Android as all of Androids versions have had a name to do with pastry. You know Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, and now Honeycomb. It is just a way for Microsoft to make fun of Android publicly and not get sued for it lol. Look at the name of the next update, Mangoo which is a fruit. Fruit is suppose to be good for you and pastries are not get it? I think it is funny myself.
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It's reasonably common knowledge why MS called it NoDo, but the poster asked what it meant, which is nothing really - it could have been called 'charlie', 'R2D2' or 'Hon Lionel Prinkinville III' - it's just a means of identifying it rather than imparting information.
Gustopher said:
It's reasonably common knowledge why MS called it NoDo, but the poster asked what it meant, which is nothing really - it could have been called 'charlie', 'R2D2' or 'Hon Lionel Prinkinville III' - it's just a means of identifying it rather than imparting information.
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You are correct it is just a means of indentifing the update. But it is a poke at Android and that is the reason Microsoft named/identified it as NoDo. Therefore I equate the NoDo or No Donuts to mean that Microsoft thinks their Windows Phone 7 OS is better than Android. Thus making NoDo mean WP7 is better than Android. I guess it is all how each indevidual looks at it. I just find it very comicial and had to post that as VirtualRenzo obviously had no clue about it. Microsoft and their silly word games
Actually NoDo is a reference to a meeting where a microsoft employee forget to bring donuts when he was supposed to.. it was not a jibe at android.
A quick google will tell you that.
theguy said:
Actually NoDo is a reference to a meeting where a microsoft employee forget to bring donuts when he was supposed to.. it was not a jibe at android.
A quick google will tell you that.
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I did a quick google and found this. I also found this qouted straight from the search page.
Mar 22, 2011 … The name is a sarcastic reference to Android update that are all … I did not like the UI as it is bland and rather ugly. … US owners of Samsung's Galaxy S Vibrant didn't get Froyo until 8 …
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I could not find a article on the guy forgeting the donuts but I have read about that as well. But don't you think them making fun of that guy is where they got the idea to make fin of Android in the same way. But thos is not worth arguing about it is just a name. But the truth is the truth.
The link you posted said the following:
"rumors have it that windows new firmware name "No Do" is a punt for Androids "doughnut" firmware"
I highlighted the crucial word. The blogger, like you, is only guessing what it means.
Here is the official response by Charlie Kindel, a WP7 developer, via his twitter :
http://twitter.com/#!/ckindel/statuses/22498194759884800
theguy said:
The link you posted said the following:
"rumors have it that windows new firmware name "No Do" is a punt for Androids "doughnut" firmware"
I highlighted the crucial word. The blogger, like you, is only guessing what it means.
Here is the official response by Charlie Kindel, a WP7 developer, via his twitter :
http://twitter.com/#!/ckindel/statuses/22498194759884800
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...................... That is so funny
Do you really take that as proof?
That sounds more like someone covering their butt from lawsuites to me. Somthing somebody said on twitter give me a break.
AlsocI am no blogger never have been never will be. The only reason I sited that link and quote was because you told me to do a quick Google search so I did and that is what I got, ot toke all of like 1 minute to pull that up. I never had a MySpace page, I don't use facebook matter of fact can't stand facebook, and twitter is even worse of a joke and a falacie in my opinion. I don't want to read whatever someone wants to just vomit out, or something they are writting to try to look cool. I try to stay grounded in facts and not fantasy that the corperate world would like for people and strive for people to stay in. I mean really do you think they would publicly admit to the name NoDo being a slight of word against Android. That would be grounds for a huge corparate lawsuite, and maybe even cause Microsoft to lose ownership of therlir precious new OS as a outcome of the lawsuit. At minumal it would cost them a very large amount of money.
Why are people diffending Microsoft anyway? Microsoft has never been called a saint. But the fact still remains call it a rumor or not the truth is the truth. Especially when it is so obviouse that a blind man could see it.
Beleive what you want to beleive, and continue to be blind if you want. I originally posted in thos thread because I thought others might get a good laugh out of it just as I did but I guess I was wrong.
T-Macgnolia said:
I did a quick google and found this. I also found this qouted straight from the search page.
I could not find a article on the guy forgeting the donuts but I have read about that as well. But don't you think them making fun of that guy is where they got the idea to make fin of Android in the same way. But thos is not worth arguing about it is just a name. But the truth is the truth.
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Do people who ask these kinds of questions never heard of google nor searching the forums?
seems like a silly thing to argue about. "haha im right, you're wrong" *points finger menacingly* while the other shakes his fist in the air yelling "i'll get you"
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Do people who ask these kinds of questions never heard of google nor searching the forums?
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Ok seens you don't think I can use Google (which you are torally wrong) here is a little article I got by using Google. This article does more than just says it is rumored it breaks it down just a little more, and shows it is a direct link to Android with the name NoDo. Funny thing is it was the third link on the first page of links Google pulled up and all I had to type in was NoDo, hmmmmm!
Also you think I can not search XDA, wrong again check out these post from XDA. Link #1, Link #2, and Link #3 And best yet one from you showing you really did not know for sure yourself not long ago.
Also check the link in my sig about "Becoming more familiar with XDA"that is all about how to use search.
OMG GIUZE THIs Is serious buiznes. pleaze continu to argument abowt it. The futur ov fone developmeant is at steak. dis must bee rezolved.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok seens you don't think I can use Google (which you are torally wrong) here is a little article I got by using Google. This article does more than just says it is rumored it breaks it down just a little more, and shows it is a direct link to Android with the name NoDo. Funny thing is it was the third link on the first page of links Google pulled up and all I had to type in was NoDo, hmmmmm!
Also you think I can not search XDA, wrong again check out these post from XDA. Link #1, Link #2, and Link #3 And best yet one from you showing you really did not know for sure yourself not long ago.
Also check the link in my sig about "Becoming more familiar with XDA"that is all about how to use search.
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Coming In 2012 is Microsoft Windows Phone 7 "STEAK" why steak? cause steak is F****NG GOOD!!
Unless they update to ManGo soon I think windows phone will go the way of the DoDo
I just wanted to point out that Froyo is Frozen Yogert... Don't forget Gingerbread and Icecream sandwich. Android is named after deserts. The Donut release was about 2.5 years ago... who runs that version?
The name nodo comes off as stupid when you realize they thought android was called pastries.

New Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 Student Edition

Same Tab, same price, but it includes a keyboard now and USB adapter.
Anyone know what keyboard it is?
Based on the picture of the packaging, it looks like a Samsung keyboard that allows you to dock the tablet in portrait mode.
How much for the keyboard, alone?
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This is not done.....we are in loss...
Samsung must take care of all users...
And author edit your post that samsung is also giving away usb adapter.........
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Based on the picture of the packaging, it looks like a Samsung keyboard that allows you to dock the tablet in portrait mode.
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Dude, seriously? I have already searched. As of yesterday there's no keyboard listed on Samsung's site as being compatible with this tab. I haven't searched the forum as the article was just released yesterday.
Really? Why even comment at all. If you didn't like the thread, just move along.
Droidlover123 said:
This is not done.....we are in loss...
Samsung must take care of all users...
And author edit your post that samsung is also giving away usb adapter.........
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Ok, I was really just conceivconcerned abbot the keyboard since I haven't found or anywhere for sale. The adapter however idea listed on their site for sale as being compatible.
RaViCa said:
Dude, seriously? I have already searched. As of yesterday there's no keyboard listed on Samsung's site as being compatible with this tab. I haven't searched the forum as the article was just released yesterday.
Really? Why even comment at all. If you didn't like the thread, just move along.
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It is an official Samsung keyboard. Why would you ask a question and then give a completely unwarranted, nasty response, that not only does nothing for this thread, but makes no sense. When did he say anything that related to him insulting you or hating on this thread? Why would Samsung release an official bundle with a keyboard that looks exactly like an official one, but is not the official one? Maybe they didn't release the accessory to force people to buy the bundle? Just because it isn't on their site doesn't mean it isn't coming in the bundle.
Ah crap! Apologies to everyone and especially to imnuts. I checked this thread this morning on my phone and for some reason the only thing I saw was the what was typed in the signature which is just a couple of links to search engine and actually thought it was his post to me. I was really baffled by it at first. But was like why this guy doesn't think I at least searched around about it at first before I posted anything.
Basically I asked a question (and thought) he replied with search engine links. If you click on the links you may see why it bothered me a little and didn't understand why he would post anything at all if that was all he had to say. But now that I am actually on a PC I see his post in its entirety and realize it was just his signature.
So again, I sincerely apologize.
However I did find this keyboard available at foreign website. I'm guessing Hong Kong. I also noticed tha tabs on that site are white.
RaViCa said:
Ah crap! Apologies to everyone and especially to imnuts. I checked this thread this morning on my phone and for some reason the only thing I saw was the what was typed in the signature which is just a couple of links to search engine and actually thought it was his post to me. I was really baffled by it at first. But was like why this guy doesn't think I at least searched around about it at first before I posted anything.
Basically I asked a question (and thought) he replied with search engine links. If you click on the links you may see why it bothered me a little and didn't understand why he would post anything at all if that was all he had to say. But now that I am actually on a PC I see his post in its entirety and realize it was just his signature.
So again, I sincerely apologize.
However I did find this keyboard available at foreign website. I'm guessing Hong Kong. I also noticed tha tabs on that site are white.
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Oh wow. I got really mad because yeah... Well, thanks for clearing it up! Also I think the tab is white in Asia.

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