A-gps without the "A" - Legend General

Does anyone know if it is possible to use the GPS receiver without any network data usage?
I have disabled the "use data network" option in settings>location but whenever I start an application requiring GPS, the data network icon automatically appears and indicates that data is being sent/received.
I know that Google Maps does require network for downloading maps etc. but the data network is also being activated by CoPilot and GPS Test, hence my assumption that it is the GPS radio that activates it.
Any advice on how to effectively disable network usage by GPS is highly appreciated.

Use APNdroid to disable mobile data completely.
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On a similar note:
I would like a program that caches all the maps for the UK to my SD card, so I can use my phone as a SatNav without needing a data connection of any kind. So the phone worked out the route instead of Google servers as well. If you know what I mean.
Does anyone know of such an application?

I think there are a number of "offline" map applications available.
Personally, I have used MapDroyd which by the way is free, but unfortunately doesn't have a directions feature.

brut.all made some modifications on the stock Google Maps to enable offline maps and international navigation. His mod is somewhere in xda-developers (search for his name).
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TheGrammarFreak said:
On a similar note:
I would like a program that caches all the maps for the UK to my SD card, so I can use my phone as a SatNav without needing a data connection of any kind. So the phone worked out the route instead of Google servers as well. If you know what I mean.
Does anyone know of such an application?
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I think all the mapdata from the UK might take up a lot of space on your SD-card
there are offline navigation packages like Navigon for Android or sygic
the have the mapdata compressed into special packages
what I'm looking for is a map manager that can handle my own maps like military maps scanned into JPG images
i once had a program for WM5 http://www.sunnysoft.com/software.php?idarticle=241 that did the trick but cannot find it in android

petertakov said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to use the GPS receiver without any network data usage?
I have disabled the "use data network" option in settings>location but whenever I start an application requiring GPS, the data network icon automatically appears and indicates that data is being sent/received.
I know that Google Maps does require network for downloading maps etc. but the data network is also being activated by CoPilot and GPS Test, hence my assumption that it is the GPS radio that activates it.
Any advice on how to effectively disable network usage by GPS is highly appreciated.
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Google iGo my way, this app turns your legend into gps-navigator. Map of teh whole russia takes about 80 megabytes, so it's not the problem

Your guys don't get it, I too have the same problem, it's not a question of maps but enabling the GPS also enables your data connection for some reason, could be the "assisted" GPS kicking in.
Google Sky Map or just a simple application like GPS Status seems to enable the data connection, even when "Mobile internet" is turned off in the Settings and both applications doesn't require data, at least the first one doesn't.
In Sky Map, having cell tower positioning works fine but as soon as you enable GPS, it turns on the data connection!

My point exactly

No I got the question, and I don't know exactly how to switch off agps. I (and I guess others who have listed offline map application) was actually answering the question in post #3.
I think (haven't tried) once you have rooted you phone, you can change /system/etc/gps.conf and remove all three urls - it might stop the gps from working altogether though.
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"my location" alternative / gsm/cell tower mapping

hello,
since google maps "my location" does not work on some machines (blueangel for example):
is there an alternative ? another software ?
what about yahoo 2 go, windows live - do they have a gsm/cell-tower-location-feature ?
thank you...
I like the yahoo2go program, especially how it incorporates all of my yahoo mail and such. But I didn't use the maps much on it for some reason.
The street map program I am using is Navizon. I use it with a gps, but it can be used with cell tower triangulation and WiFi triangulation also. It updates my location a lot more frequently and accurately than googlemaps does.
You can get it here.
http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5B5A595B575A
Good luck
hello,
yahoo2Go does not seem to have something like "myLocation".
i tried navizon also: it couldn't find my location - maybe the have good data for USA, but i doubt for europe.
keep looking for alternatives....

Google maps or navizon without using a internet data connection??

Hello, it's possible to use a already downloaded map with one of those aplications, so you don't have to use gprs etc (a internet data connection with the cost that this have...) I think it's stupid about been downloading the same map over and over...
Anyone knows? Sorry if duplicated, I could'n find anything at all.
Regards!

Selectively disable net access by app?

I have a Touch Pro2 which connects to the net every 15 minutes for reasons that I'm not aware of (I have Outlook and Weather set to Manual, have disabled Latitude in Google Maps, etc). SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
Since my provider charges per session this can get quite expensive, so I've been forced to turn 3G/GPRS access on/off manually using NoData.
Is there a way of selectively enabling net access for designated applications only? e.g. allowing it to Opera and Outlook only by default, and selectively enabling other apps on demand?
Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
TIA for any tips
Ian
itm said:
Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
Ian
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Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
i think this is a greate idea. someone should really develop this.
basically the user would provide the application with an approved list of applications that can connect using the 3g/edge connection. the rest can only connect using wifi or activesync
GLO said:
Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
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but it doesnt do anything after it tells you this stats.
a simple application similar to "no data" should still be developed. what do you all think?
look into your taskmanager
RSSHub ? QuickGPS ?
good look
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Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
Ian
THE GRIZZ said:
but it doesnt do anything after it tells you this stats.
a simple application similar to "no data" should still be developed. what do you all think?
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Sure, this wont stop the apps, but as the OP had asked, this will let him know what apps are accessing the NEt
GLO said:
Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
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SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
Mamamam said:
look into your taskmanager
RSSHub ? QuickGPS ?
good look
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I tried installing and runnign TaskMgr but it hangs during startup on my TouchPro2. What's the best alternative Task manager app?
itm said:
SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
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I suspect that they are your Network Operator settings checking for updates or
something like that.
GLO said:
I suspect that they are your Network Operator settings checking for updates or
something like that.
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They make 87 connections in 18 hours - does that sound likely? It works out very expensive for those tariffs which charge a per-connection fee.
Any idea how I could disable this (or confirm that this is indeed the explanation)?
Hutchison3G sets up virtually all their supplied phones with network configurations to connect very frequently like what you describe.
See if you can simply disable your data connection. As with H3G in Australia, you dont get charged when it is simply accessing its own intranet, and when its roaming it only displays a 'lite' homepage.
Perhaps consider a non-network issued rom, or determine whether that data is 'free intranet' or not.
GLO said:
See if you can simply disable your data connection. As with H3G in Australia, you dont get charged when it is simply accessing its own intranet, and when its roaming it only displays a 'lite' homepage.
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I already use NoData to manually enable/disable the data connection when it's required/not required. I was just hoping for a more elegant solution to stop unauthorised apps incurring data charges, while not sacrificing the convenience of automatic access for apps that I use alot (like Opera and Outlook)
hope someone develops this
You can try PPC version of ProxyCap to restrict or proxify access per application - http://www.proxycap.com/
It doesn't pop up when an aplication attempts to communicate with the Internet, so manual configuration is required. You'll need to set up proxy bypass for the applications you want to be allowed to connect and use localhost as a proxy by default, so that other applications can't communicate with external hosts. You can also filter traffic based on destination IPs and ports. E.g. an easier solution may be to allow http and https traffic only for all applications and drop everything else if you only need to use a web browser.
ProxyCap may not prevent your GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA connection from being established every time, but at least there will be application or protocol filtering in place and thus less unexpected traffic. ProxyCap does not seem to be able to filter ICMP traffic. It appears to be allowing DNS traffic through regardless of the filtering configuration too, as it can't be proxified and is required for proper name resolution.
Another alternative is PPC firewalls like
http://www.airscanner.com/products/firewall/
and
http://www.anthasoft.com/anthafirewall-firewall-for-mobile-device.php
I haven't used any of these products though and can't recommend them.
Both seem to be more user friendly than proxycap though.

"My location" - how exactly does it work?

Hi everyone!
You know everyone's worrying about privacy these days and I was just thinking about the "my location" service on our mobiles.
Does anyone know for sure how it works? As far as I know it seems to take the Cell ID and get the name and weather through an Internet connection. Is that right?
Which database is it connecting to? I know for sure that the place I live at isn't on accuweather, where the weather on Sense is usually taken from and the weather displayed under "my location" is different from the weather for the nearest place that's on accuweather.
Moreover is it possible to find out which data exactly is sent to that database (which seems to be something "Google" because you have to accept some terms initially)?
The phone masts send out a cellID which is passed to google and it triangulates you based on your nearest towers.
Rmour has it google has a huge database of tower names and locations, so once it has a location it can pull up a post code and pass that to accuweather to get back the weather for that area.
It seems that google dont have a complete list of cell id's, and some towers dont transmit their cellid, hence some areas giving my location problems.
google also uses the info for traffic updates and traffic congestion calculations
Is there a way to disable the my location?, i sort of found it in the tweaks thread but i dont understand how to do it.
gamecore said:
Is there a way to disable the my location?, i sort of found it in the tweaks thread but i dont understand how to do it.
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Just go to settings/location and you can disable it there.
you can do it in regstry.... current user/software/htc/manila.... enablecurrentlocation set to 0 (zero)
The database is by Google. It is supposed to be anonymous, as long as you don't turn Latitude on in Google maps. You can even store history of your location, but that is turned of by default, and can be controlled via web interface of your Google account.
Also note that your service provider can detect your location independently. In some countries this location can, or even must, be archived for some time.
Furthermore if you have Wifi enabled My Location will sniff for wireless packets and depending on the APs MAC addresses will be able to detemine a more accurate location as the Street View vans sniffed packets and uploaded MAC adresses along with GPS co-ordinates to aid their service.
since we're onto wifi sniffing etc for location finding, heres an off topic but interesting proof of concept page that can pin your home pc down to a pretty narrow area just from your home ip address, and which works using googles location service.
Its not nearly as acurate as the real location service, but still got my house to within 500 yards, using my virginmedia ip address.
http://samy.pl/mapxss/
Note test page is for firefox, but the exploit if done for real would work on all browsers.

App that control which apps can use 3g/edge and wifi

Is there any app that can control which apps are allowed to use 3g/edge to connect to the Internet and which are only allowed to do that when wifi is available?
Yes me too want to know how to restrict data download.
Thank you.
IMO, an app that manages all permissions would be even better. I haven't heard of any such apps but hopefully someone can come up with something.
can I somehow restrict all data transfers? I have no data tarif from my mobile operator and allmost everywhere I am i have free wifi connection (so I want use wifi).
Thank you
"Tasker" may be able to help, it can control your settings based on all kinds of scenarios. I have my mobile data disabled and use Tasker to enable it when certain apps start (internet, email, etc), it will disable it automatically when you close that app (needs apndroid installed). I do the same with GPS.
Tasker gives you loads of options and control, you can create custom widgets and automatic profile switching.
milanf said:
can I somehow restrict all data transfers? I have no data tarif from my mobile operator and allmost everywhere I am i have free wifi connection (so I want use wifi).
Thank you
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droidwall may be of interest to you guys, it blocks all apps to connect to 3g/edge unless you specify the app in the droidwall whitelist
note: Droidwall does require root
Would appreciate to know where to get the "Tasker" you mentioned.
Thank you.
I can find Tasker in the market, but I first found it on androlib. I use it to disable ´mobile data' during the night.

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