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First off, to eliminate the flamers 1)I know you don't need to partition your SD Card (i've been running android on 2 SD cards for around a month now) 2)I know it won't make my device run any faster.
The question is though If i partition my memory card to have the 3 partitons: ext, linux swap, and fat32, will this mean that on the main part of the memory card that my windows mobile can see that i won't have all of the various folders that the Android OS creates (i.e: .android_secure, .bookmark_thumb1, rosie_scroll?
The reason i ask is i want to have my memory card as clean as possible so that within my windows mobile build that it is still very organized.
Thanks for any help you can offer. If you are going to reply simply to say use the search, I have, I've read and thank you very much, you can now move on to the next topic to type that.
I also have the same question.
How get clean memmory card from Android folders?
Or how to install Android in folder (sdcard/Android/all android folders)
Than my WM folders will use (sdcard/WM folders)
I second either of these as to keep my mem card tidy from all the android folders created and mixed up with my WM files.
Well since no one seems to know the answer or isn't willing to share, I am going to try doing this within the next two days and will report back on whether or not it works.
How would each OS know what partition belongs to it?
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Well since no one seems to know the answer or isn't willing to share, I am going to try doing this within the next two days and will report back on whether or not it works.
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Nice to hear that! I think there is 2 ways:
with partition on sdcard
change Android install place to place in folder
Somone who build Android roms can try to change location where android install apps.
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How would each OS know what partition belongs to it?
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If you crate partition for linux (ext...) windows will not show, read and find it.Also WM will not read files on linux partition but I think that linux still will read both. Dono how it is on Android but in Ubuntu on PC it works.
SD partitioning works great!
This is how to create partitions on your SD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267475
I tried it - and it works. WinMo shows two storage cards - 'Storage Card' and 'Storage Card 2'. The first one is the Active partition - which is my Android partition.
When you are in WinMo and installing WinMo software, you are given the choice of where to install it - and it shows both storage cards. So in effect you can have all that is WinMo on one partition and all that is Android on another. Android is working nicely from its own partition.
I must say - this is the first time my Android is working sooooooo well. As well as my wife's HTC Desire device. It is a noticeable difference - the same Android build worked quite sluggishly before this exercise. It is either because I am using a freshly formatted partition, or because it has its own partition now.
My partitions were formatted with FAT32, 32KB unit allocation size. I am using ChuckyDroid ROM and currently testing this Android build Core_Droid_V.0.2.
Yeey ! " ... after action - satisfaction .. "
Hi all !
I was wondering if it could be possible to install android on a second partion of the memory card so I can keep windows and all of its folder inside the primary partion while I can use the second partion to run adroid and let it create all its folder ont he second partition, Actually I got everything in the main root that is became a great mess !
Everything is possible of course, but I'd think you'd have to do a lot of modifying to do that. WinMo still initiliases Android, so you'd have to edit haret (and maybe other files too). Not worth the hassle methinks.
I do agree that Android clutters up your SD card. There should be some standards, like one big folder where all apps store their settings.
Search this forum for "partition".
what should I look ??
Okay before anyone starts to flame or start saying "Oh God" to the screen, this isnt the typical "When are we going to get Android to boot from HD2" question.
I know we all boot Android from our SDCard, but I went looking to see if there was any google pages on why the sd card? Being that we have an HD2 and it has alot of space (My phone says 768mb free internal storage), would it slow Android and the experience down if we had the "Android" folder copied to our phone instead? I know currently it probably wouldnt work, but being that the avg Android folder is 230mb to 260mb thats more then enough space to put the folder in, and possibly change maybe the daily useage or app installations onto the sdcard. If this was just a general rule of thumb that it was decided to be put on an sdcard across the board because not all phone had the room then is there no way to change that now since most phones are coming out to have larger internal space opposed to older ones?
And again, would it be slower to run this way or not?
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Okay before anyone starts to flame or start saying "Oh God" to the screen, this isnt the typical "When are we going to get Android to boot from HD2" question.
I know we all boot Android from our SDCard, but I went looking to see if there was any google pages on why the sd card? Being that we have an HD2 and it has alot of space (My phone says 768mb free internal storage), would it slow Android and the experience down if we had the "Android" folder copied to our phone instead? I know currently it probably wouldnt work, but being that the avg Android folder is 230mb to 260mb thats more then enough space to put the folder in, and possibly change maybe the daily useage or app installations onto the sdcard. If this was just a general rule of thumb that it was decided to be put on an sdcard across the board because not all phone had the room then is there no way to change that now since most phones are coming out to have larger internal space opposed to older ones?
And again, would it be slower to run this way or not?
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Haret cannot currently read from NAND, its code reads and searches for Data IMG and Rootfs and kernal in SD ONLY .....
hence NAND is so very different from HARET.
well Magldr is what would do the trick
I'm assuming your talking about nand as to boot from the phone like as if you are powering it up and windows loads, Im not actually talking about that. I'm actually talking about how it currently loads, except, instead of placing the Android folder on the SDCard and running clrcad and haret, instead placing the folder into the root directory of the phone and running clrcad and haret from there, same exact way we are running it now, except changing the location of the folder from card to phone.
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I'm assuming your talking about nand as to boot from the phone like as if you are powering it up and windows loads, Im not actually talking about that. I'm actually talking about how it currently loads, except, instead of placing the Android folder on the SDCard and running clrcad and haret, instead placing the folder into the root directory of the phone and running clrcad and haret from there, same exact way we are running it now, except changing the location of the folder from card to phone.
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Well firstly NAND does not necessarly mean booting from start, NAND= Internal memory, in fact cotulla's MAGLDR can boot android of the SD straight from power up whilst having WIN MO on NAND.
So to answer your question again,
HARET CANNOT READ NAND (INTERNAL MEMORY), it always looks for SD for everything , in some cases RAM, as in the new RAM builds that are popping up by devs.
the code for HARET cannot handle NAND at the moment and i dont thing it will ever be implemented.
I'm neither a dev or a hacker, this is just what i ahve understood from reading, i'm open to corrections,
best regds
I have to admit, this idea is very cool.. If haret could "see" the nand memory after WinMo is loaded, then all you need is a WinMo rom stripped down to the maximum and Android folder burned in it (at least the system part). if if if i am not sure, if its technicaly impossible for haret to see the nand memory after booting WinMo or if its impossible at all..
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I have to admit, this idea is very cool.. If haret could "see" the nand memory after WinMo is loaded, then all you need is a WinMo rom stripped down to the maximum and Android folder burned in it (at least the system part). if if if i am not sure, if its technicaly impossible for haret to see the nand memory after booting WinMo or if its impossible at all..
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guys remeber HARET is a bootloader for LINUX, its crazy enough its helping us boot android from SD, I think the possible reason HARET is not designed for reading NAND is the potential damage it could do to SPL leading to a BRICK, now we dont want a brick do we ?
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guys remeber HARET is a bootloader for LINUX, its crazy enough its helping us boot android from SD, I think the possible reason HARET is not designed for reading NAND is the potential damage it could do to SPL leading to a BRICK, now we dont want a brick do we ?
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never say never and expect the unexpected, thats what life teached me
phone wouldnt get bricked if you just read nand, but writing into it could do damage, i agree on this.
OK, so when I first read the OP, I thought he meant booting Haret from the phone's internal storage memory, not NAND.
Though the NAND Haret idea is really not bad, I couldn't see it corrupting the bootloader as long as it behaves the same way as it does from the sd. I mean, the phone is already booted WinMo, so HaRet and Android have no need to touch the bootloader, just as when running from sd. It would be more or less a startup.txt change/ rel_path = NAND/Android (not exact, but general idea). Seems alot different to me from MAGLDR, maybe there is just confusion about this
But if the NAND idea is not workable, wouldn't it be possible to run HaRet Android from the phone's internal storage memory, yielding a performance speed increase and less wear on the sd?
Clearly we couldn't do like I have now, a ton of builds with exceller, all running from internal storage, obviously we don't have 16gb internal. But what about just loading our daily driver from internal, and testing/less commonly builds from sd?
I like the idea because it could mean less wear on the sd, and possibly performance increase
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Thats exactly what I meant, once WinMo is loaded, we normally go into the sd card thru file explorer and then go to android and then run clrcad and haret, winMo is already loaded and doesnt corrupt winmo, but if we could run the core system from the phones storage space, (Putting the android folder into the main directory, and then running clrcad and haret, this way the core system would load and any user installable files would just end up on the storage card, cause obviously we wouldnt be able to load all our apks into the phone (Some might, others like us go nuts).
But the concept is not a bad one, especially if there was a way when installing the apk's it asked for the location to add.
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Thats exactly what I meant, once WinMo is loaded, we normally go into the sd card thru file explorer and then go to android and then run clrcad and haret, winMo is already loaded and doesnt corrupt winmo, but if we could run the core system from the phones storage space, (Putting the android folder into the main directory, and then running clrcad and haret, this way the core system would load and any user installable files would just end up on the storage card, cause obviously we wouldnt be able to load all our apks into the phone (Some might, others like us go nuts).
But the concept is not a bad one, especially if there was a way when installing the apk's it asked for the location to add.
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I would say that if HaRet was pointed to the correct place correspondingly, either NAND or storage would work as I previously mentioned. I am unsure about any performance gains to be had, but it would surely save on sd card wear.
People say that going from NAND would corrupt bootloader, but since WM is already booted using HaRet, there is no reason that the bootloader is touched, even if it is all stored to NAND. MagLDR is different, that is going for a cold-boot of Android, no WM involved at all. HaRet and MAGLDR work different and I think that if Haret was made to look for /Android in NAND, it could work just the same as if off of sdcard.
And booting from the phone's storage memory would be even safer, as no far-fetched idea of HaRet corrupting the bootloader is even conceivable, as NAND would never even be touched at all.
I honestly believe though that if a version of Haret was released that looked to NAND memory for /Android, that WM chefs could bake lite version WM ROMs with popular Android builds already built into NAND, maybe in the \Windows directory. The chef could even cook in a modified version of Exceller's Android loader which would look to \Windows for the Android folder.
Since Android development is so far along, and there are so many builds that are 100% or near 100% stable, I do think that going this route is a viable option, I mean there are already WM builds that will install an Android build to the sd card all by themselves after you boot them up the first time. This seems a natural progression of that concept to me.
Maybe somebody could contact Netripper, and ask him more about this idea, and see if he would be kind enough to build a HaRet version to look to NaND memory, and another to look to internal storage space, the rest could be done by the end user, as there are WM kitchens available, and most ppl here could make a .cab to install \Android to internal.
That's my $0.02
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I would say that if HaRet was pointed to the correct place correspondingly, either NAND or storage would work as I previously mentioned. I am unsure about any performance gains to be had, but it would surely save on sd card wear.
People say that going from NAND would corrupt bootloader, but since WM is already booted using HaRet, there is no reason that the bootloader is touched, even if it is all stored to NAND. MagLDR is different, that is going for a cold-boot of Android, no WM involved at all. HaRet and MAGLDR work different and I think that if Haret was made to look for /Android in NAND, it could work just the same as if off of sdcard.
And booting from the phone's storage memory would be even safer, as no far-fetched idea of HaRet corrupting the bootloader is even conceivable, as NAND would never even be touched at all.
I honestly believe though that if a version of Haret was released that looked to NAND memory for /Android, that WM chefs could bake lite version WM ROMs with popular Android builds already built into NAND, maybe in the \Windows directory. The chef could even cook in a modified version of Exceller's Android loader which would look to \Windows for the Android folder.
Since Android development is so far along, and there are so many builds that are 100% or near 100% stable, I do think that going this route is a viable option, I mean there are already WM builds that will install an Android build to the sd card all by themselves after you boot them up the first time. This seems a natural progression of that concept to me.
Maybe somebody could contact Netripper, and ask him more about this idea, and see if he would be kind enough to build a HaRet version to look to NaND memory, and another to look to internal storage space, the rest could be done by the end user, as there are WM kitchens available, and most ppl here could make a .cab to install \Android to internal.
That's my $0.02
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Very possible,
Haret needs to be modified for that,
not sure who can do it.
Guys as far as i know, on hd2 is nand memory the same as internal phone memory.There is no built in sd card. I am not 100% sure, but there is 512mb nand memory (internal memory). I mean, we install winmo roms into the nand. So if your winmo rom is about 200mb, you will be left with soemthing like 300mb internal phone memory. Correct me, if i am wrong..
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Guys as far as i know, on hd2 is nand memory the same as internal phone memory.There is no built in sd card. I am not 100% sure, but there is 512mb nand memory (internal memory). I mean, we install winmo roms into the nand. So if your winmo rom is about 200mb, you will be left with soemthing like 300mb internal phone memory. Correct me, if i am wrong..
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spot on
NAND = Internal memory
greg17477 said:
Guys as far as i know, on hd2 is nand memory the same as internal phone memory.There is no built in sd card. I am not 100% sure, but there is 512mb nand memory (internal memory). I mean, we install winmo roms into the nand. So if your winmo rom is about 200mb, you will be left with soemthing like 300mb internal phone memory. Correct me, if i am wrong..
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Well true except the TMOUS, which is 1024 mb, so it should be plenty then to run Android this way right?
Even with just 300 left after WM ROM, Android could still be done conservatively, without much apps installed, or with some kind of a2sd functionality, Froyo has inbuilt app to sd functionality, albeit not as good as a2sd ext2 or ext3 setup.
Guys I think you are missing the point, If this was possible, viable or worth it, it would have probably already been tried and tested and released along time ago.
The fact that this hasnt been done already tells me that its been thought about and rejected for good reason.
PS. NAND ..IS.. Internal memory guys so the running loading of kernel and files from internel memory instead of nand is a moot point.
Here's a question for you guys thinking it *could* be possible to put Android on internal storage(NOT NAND) instead of SD...
What do you think will happen after your device creates the data.img and tries to place it in the Android folder on Internal Storage? I for one think my device(1024 TMOUS Leo) would run out of memory and throw error after error about internal storage being critically low until I did something about it.
To top it off, what about the 100 some odd folders that Android creates on the SD card now? Where are you going to put all of that on internal storage?
To sum it all up folks, until we're running from nand and have dedicated internal storage(W/O WM), it's not likely to EVER happen due to sheer lack of space, even if haret was reprogrammed to allow booting from internal storage.
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Here's a question for you guys thinking it *could* be possible to put Android on internal storage(NOT NAND) instead of SD...
What do you think will happen after your device creates the data.img and tries to place it in the Android folder on Internal Storage? I for one think my device(1024 TMOUS Leo) would run out of memory and throw error after error about internal storage being critically low until I did something about it.
To top it off, what about the 100 some odd folders that Android creates on the SD card now? Where are you going to put all of that on internal storage?
To sum it all up folks, until we're running from nand and have dedicated internal storage(W/O WM), it's not likely to EVER happen due to sheer lack of space, even if haret was reprogrammed to allow booting from internal storage.
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hmmm,
well in that case, kernel could be programed to create Data IMG on SD, if you have been following the Rhodium Nand Project , you will see what i mean, a few components are on NAND and a few on SD
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Here's a question for you guys thinking it *could* be possible to put Android on internal storage(NOT NAND) instead of SD...
What do you think will happen after your device creates the data.img and tries to place it in the Android folder on Internal Storage? I for one think my device(1024 TMOUS Leo) would run out of memory and throw error after error about internal storage being critically low until I did something about it.
To top it off, what about the 100 some odd folders that Android creates on the SD card now? Where are you going to put all of that on internal storage?
To sum it all up folks, until we're running from nand and have dedicated internal storage(W/O WM), it's not likely to EVER happen due to sheer lack of space, even if haret was reprogrammed to allow booting from internal storage.
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Its not about putting the whole Android folder into nand, but for example only the system partition, just like in the RAM builds. All data and user stuff goes to sd.
Btw what do you mean by "...*could* be possible to put Android on internal storage(NOT NAND)." ? nand is the internal storage (memory). Or you guys are using different terms do you mean by "nand" the reseverd space where roms are stored and by "internal storage" the free space left (still in nand)?
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Guys I think you are missing the point, If this was possible, viable or worth it, it would have probably already been tried and tested and released along time ago.
The fact that this hasnt been done already tells me that its been thought about and rejected for good reason.
PS. NAND ..IS.. Internal memory guys so the running loading of kernel and files from internel memory instead of nand is a moot point.
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Actually your part right, it was tested and released in the initial phases of the Rapheal (aka Fuze) and ran smoothly from what I read, yes there were hiccups, but that was due to the build being still in the alpha stages.
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Here's a question for you guys thinking it *could* be possible to put Android on internal storage(NOT NAND) instead of SD...
What do you think will happen after your device creates the data.img and tries to place it in the Android folder on Internal Storage? I for one think my device(1024 TMOUS Leo) would run out of memory and throw error after error about internal storage being critically low until I did something about it.
To top it off, what about the 100 some odd folders that Android creates on the SD card now? Where are you going to put all of that on internal storage?
To sum it all up folks, until we're running from nand and have dedicated internal storage(W/O WM), it's not likely to EVER happen due to sheer lack of space, even if haret was reprogrammed to allow booting from internal storage.
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This is where your part wrong as well. if you use a pre-set data.img file, yes for the most part you cant use anything larger then possibly 512mb on a TMous, 256 on others, definitely could not use the 1gb img file thats for sure, but the other part of this your missing is that if you dont put a pre-set data.img file, during the initial loading of android, android will create the file itself, and IF I am right the file will be sort of dynamic, dynamic in the sense it will expand as needed, I seriously doubt it shrinks. And on top of this you would then use the function a2sd, which in then would install your apk's to sd card. As of right now how much bigger is your 1gb data.img file that everyone added to their SDCards? Bet still the same size.
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hmmm,
well in that case, kernel could be programed to create Data IMG on SD, if you have been following the Rhodium Nand Project , you will see what i mean, a few components are on NAND and a few on SD
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Actually after doing some reading, neither the kernel (if I read correctly) nor is haret.exe the cause of pointing the boot location. I did some searching (Mind you I am NOT a LINUX person), but reading some of the files, I am guessing that the key file which controls the loading of Android, is located in the "init" file in the rootfs.img file. I mounted this file in windows to look thru it and view files, and that file seems to have a major role in it, how it works I dont know yet.
To All, please I am not trying to cause a stir here, I am merely looking at possibilities, and unfortunately I cant test them out since I dont have a spare SDCard as of yet (Will ina couple of days, 32GB SDCard for $40, woohoo), and then I have nothing to loose to try, cant brick the phone, since winmo is the default loading OS anyway. One of the reason it might not have been put on the phone as I said, could be speed, I dont know how much faster internal phone storage would be opposed to sd, but another reason why could be cause then the installation would put folders on the root file system of the stroage card and make it messy. Also alot of people constantly flash new builds, this would also hamper your android install being on the phones storage. And remember our normal HD2 roms are between 225 and 250mb stock or custom, where lite versions or stripped down version would be considered better for taking up less space.
One thing to keep note, during all this, I have an HTC Aria (Liberty) as well that I just recently got as an upgrade to one of my ATT lines, and I checked the internal storage of that phone, its stock with ATT's build of Android, and it has ONLY 168mb of storage available, and it came with a 2gb sd card. Now think about that when saying that the files would get to big, obviously the HTC Aria doesnt have anywhere near the capacity of the HD2.
And again to anyone else, let's be clear, yes the phones storage is a NAND, but just to make clear, we aren't talking about doing a cold boot of android, I know how sometimes that can get confusing.
Sorry guys, yes internal storage is NAND memory, the reason I drew a distinction was to make a distinction between loading from internal storage and ROM space. I only meant to illustrate the difference between the two and demonstrate my opinion that both are possible. I think with further investigation and testing, advantages of booting this way will begin to emerge. For example we will be able to remove the sd card while Android runs, not a great benifit, but you get the idea. But yeah, I should have used the term 'ROM Space' instead of NAND, I only meant to show difference between the 2 places to boot from.
Sorry if i caused any confusion.
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With the recent developments of Android and WP7 for the HD2, I really can't decide between the two. Will there be an option of dual boot like with WM6.5? I'd love to have this option.
I would definitely love for this to happen, although WP7 is in the lead for me now, booting android once in a while wont be so bad.
i think itz possible in tmobile usa HD2 with itz 1gb ROM ... two partitions using two NAND OS... dual NAND..
I'm very interested in this option. Hopefully this will be available soon.
I hoppe we find a solution for Leo from EU (512Mo).
Like WIN6.5 + Android on SD ?
My favorite way : Android in NAND, WP7 on SD !!
think we should be able to still boot android off sd with magldr... we just need to switch to a different sd card that wasn't used with wp7. I hope its possible. will be trying it soon.
i would love to do this, i have a 124 leo.
F*ck the 512!
Android+WP7 would be sweeeet for 1024!
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
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im still running an old build of sd, so is it possible to upgrade radio, magldr, win7 nand and keep android on sd?
im not really wanting to give up android just yet, but i do admit i want to see what win7 is like
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based by the link above (with google translate), its possible to dual boot with wp7 nand and android sd
Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
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Is it possible to back up a android nand rom, so i don't need to download al apps again and set them all up again?
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SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
Dark Fire said:
So...does anyone here speak enough Chinese to make more sense of this than Google Translate does? I think some sort of modification needs to be made to init.rc. Possibly system.img too. It's also not clear to me if a NAND or SD ROM is meant to be used. There are some links which I'm trying to make sense of...
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Im unsure on how to do this also, if anybody fancys typing it into something we could follow it would be great!
Im in work today and my phone is fully charged ready for win7/android combo
How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
domenukk said:
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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That's what I would like to be able to do. WP7 is nice to play with at this stage but I still plan to use Android most of the time.
Ali_Shaikh said:
SEARCH!!!
But since your lazy, yes there is. Its called Titanium backup and it saves all your apps and settings into a file. When you install a new build just recover that file from within Titanium backup and all your apps and stuff will be there.
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Thanks alot, i wasn't able to find it. Google couldn't help me.
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How would you boot android from nand if you can't access the file system of the SD card?
Its an unknown format and magldr surely won't be able to boot anything from it.
Maybe it works the other way round, though?
Or you could use your phone7 without sd card...
hey that may even work.
Limited storage for phone7 - who cares?
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Half of the sdcard is formatted in FAT32. The other in WP7 system file.
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Here's that thread translated:
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I have already declared in the title dual boot, or have friends do not understand the altar. After the following modifications, select the boot wph start guide wp7, select the boot ad sd sd boot on Android , Android WP7 and dual-boot, the boot options can, without disturbing each other. Start wp7 will not interfere with sd card, wp7 sd card did not even know exist, the question is wp7 little space available, but at least can be used.
Expect experts to address the first time in wp7 can choose to start the occupation of the sd card space, do not fully occupied enough.
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Thank DFT ! Because SD Android running well, I have not brush Nand Android, waiting for the arrival of WP7.
Today, DFT has released long-awaited HD2 users WP7, I finally started to brush. Brush some of the altar before the access to the Friends of the experience, that really exclusive WP7 SD card, which can later how to run Android.
I have access to the information carefully and found that the SD card as WP7 only system expansion space, the first start of the SD card partition to use. Therefore, I decided to removed the SD card so reserved for Android use.
PC: Windows 7
HD2: SHPL 2.08
SD: Sandisk 8G c4 (from the phone in the show)
The following is the process of Brush:
1. Three-color screen brush Magldr 112 (all normal, NES Set )
2.Magldr start to select the USB Flasher, PC-side DWI (all normal)
3. Phone reboots directly into the WP7, simple to use, after all the normal (free space 98M)
4. Handset off
5. Insert SD card
6. boot holding down the hold button, enter the Magldr menu
7. Set always shows the menu (to decide, because I want to dual-boot often, so set the boot menu)
8. Set the boot path SD card Android
9. Guide the SD Android, the show finished HTC interface (kernel, Init after) boot into Andoird animation between the phone restart
Episode: I stupid out, SD card, there are a lot of information not backed up, hands and no card reader, can not enter the Andoird, the backup can not, WP7, when not installed into the SD card, do not expect him to. Fortunately, there are menu items that Magldr USB storage (my first use of Magldr), select this option, the memory card sorting.Remove the SD card all the Android-generated directory (the directory is generated Android, do not also delete a Android), re-boot, the first screen to enter Andoird die.
10. Online access to information, Magldr guide SD card Android, need to modify inti.rc.
11. Will system.img (I use the DHD Android) copied to the Linux modified.
In the service ril-daemon / system / bin / rild-l / system / lib / libhtc_ril_wrapper.so append --d / dev/smd0 nand parameters, to support
Nand boot.
12. Returns Android phone, after a successful boot.
Nagging: WP7 egg really hurt, WIFI without any settings, I have been using a static IP, can not be set.
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He's dual booting, but none of the SD card space is for WP7. It only has around 100megs left. WP7 automatically RAID0's the whole card with internal memory for space. That's why removing the card screws up WP7 and a hard reset has to be done. I think what would be ideal is if the card could be split into 8gb for WP7 and 8GB for Android, but part of the problem is you can't call HARET.exe or CLRCAD.exe because there is no OS to understand those executables.
ok here is what i got : i cant post link soo write "HTC HD2 T8585 - Black (Unlocked) Smartphone" in ebay and you will get it in sort its New HTC HD2 T8585 4.3" 3G 1GHz 5MP GPS WIFI WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5 SMARTPHONE
US SETTINGS, MONEY BACK, SHIP TO WORLDWIDE, 100% UNLOCK
MEMORY Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Practically unlimited
Internal 448 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
Card slot microSD, up to 32 GB
dont look at the price its mach hier in my country soo am heppy...
soo now i got WM 6.5 and i want WM 7.5 + android
and i know **** about bouth... soo help me pliz step by step what do i install first
thanks doron
some one? youtube links , from links , jast tell me what to do in sort...
The Best Thing To Do with a new HD2
..
ok first thanks now i understen more and i have been reading in the form some stuff soo i see what is going in i stell have a few qustions
*can you tell me the steps what do i do first radio? android? and how do i doul boot soo i have bouth OS?
1. why WM 7.5 is not supported? (if you can be more Specific) becouse its not offisel, from i see on youtube its working fast and good all i need on it is skype,facebook, whatapp, waze ...? soo if you can explan more about it
2. why android 2.3.... and not android 4.0? he is officel i think... if you can explan more about it...
3. i have a 8 GB SD card is it good or should i buy 32 GB?
..
first of all thank you very mach!!!!! you help me a lot!!!
soo after looking in youtube and in the forum i desiided that
i want to have doul boot WM 7.5 and Android 4.0.4
soo i think i will take this roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534941 TIGER ROM|05 April [v4.5.0 ]
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488 [12.04.12][MAGLDR][SD][ICS 4.0.4]Unofficial AOKP31 v2 (AKA IceCreamTostidroid)
ok soo let see if i know what im doing soo i need to do my raido
HSPL3 Link: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...5&d=1277138402)
and do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
with : Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14**: MultiUpload
after this i do ? i need to doul boot? soo the fouom have a doul boot guid?
from what i understod i need to first install WM 7.5 soo is there a good guid to install it? and after i do it do i jast install the android or do i need to do somesing?
now thet i told you what i want to install can you help me and send me to the reight links and to tell me what i do first you know step by step
like : 1.*link* you do this with radio 7. bla bla
2. *link* you do this dwonload bla bla
thanks alot!!!!! doron
and if you recomend difrent rom pliz say and will my 8 GB can take the android + MW7.5?
doron050 said:
first of all thank you very mach!!!!! you help me a lot!!!
soo after looking in youtube and in the forum i desiided that
i want to have doul boot WM 7.5 and Android 4.0.4
soo i think i will take this roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534941 TIGER ROM|05 April [v4.5.0 ]
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488 [12.04.12][MAGLDR][SD][ICS 4.0.4]Unofficial AOKP31 v2 (AKA IceCreamTostidroid)
ok soo let see if i know what im doing soo i need to do my raido
HSPL3 Link: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...5&d=1277138402)
and do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
with : Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14**: MultiUpload
after this i do ? i need to doul boot? soo the fouom have a doul boot guid?
from what i understod i need to first install WM 7.5 soo is there a good guid to install it? and after i do it do i jast install the android or do i need to do somesing?
now thet i told you what i want to install can you help me and send me to the reight links and to tell me what i do first you know step by step
like : 1.*link* you do this with radio 7. bla bla
2. *link* you do this dwonload bla bla
thanks alot!!!!! doron
and if you recomend difrent rom pliz say and will my 8 GB can take the android + MW7.5?
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You really should download the HD2 NAND Toolkit. You can use the toolkit to flash HSPL, MAGLDR, or clk to your HD2. It has all of these included in the download for the Toolkit. You can also use it to flash an .nbh file to your HD2. This means you can flash Splashscreens and Windows Mobile ROMs with the Toolkit also.
Go to this thread to learn how to dual boot Windows Phone 7.5 and Android. But just so you know Android can only be run from SD card when you have WP 7.5 installed in NAND. You can not however dual boot Android from NAND and WP 7.5from SD card as WP uses your SD card as internal memory.
Last of all for your on good please read the guide in my signature so you can hopefully educate yourself about exactly what the MAGLDR is and what it's function is. Plus it is a load more of info I think would very much help you to read.
thank you very mach i jast seee i need to put the android in SD card will it make it sloer? or its will upload in self to RAM on start up... if its like this maybe i will start with jast android 4.0.4 soo jast for this what do i need?
and in the future i will doul boot whan i buy a 16 GB SD card
and can i use this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136644
jast for the start untel i read all about RADIO and HL things cause u relly wanna start useing the phone...
i wanna use it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488
doron050 said:
thank you very mach i jast seee i need to put the android in SD card will it make it sloer? or its will upload in self to RAM on start up... if its like this maybe i will start with jast android 4.0.4 soo jast for this what do i need?
and in the future i will doul boot whan i buy a 16 GB SD card
and can i use this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136644
jast for the start untel i read all about RADIO and HL things cause u relly wanna start useing the phone...
i wanna use it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492488
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The first thread you linked is a tool used to install Android to NAND widget means Android boots from internal memory. So unless you want to just use Android on your HD2 this is not the guide for you right now.
The second thread you linked is to a SD card buildvthat uses Super RAM which means that part of the main Android system boots into RAM on start up widget makes the build run faster. If this is what you want to use for your Android you just need to download it and extract the contents of the .zip file to the root of your SD card and then either use the file explorer to touch on CLRCAD and then HARET, or you can install a dual boot app for Windows Mobile that you can use to boot your Android from SD card.
I just want to correct a very very wrong statement, WP7.5 is very well supported. The HD2 is often better supported by the dev community than official WP devices, infact the HD2 got Tango before any other WP phone. Also with WP7.5 on NAND you can dual boot so you can have Android and WP7.5, you can't do that the other way around. I would suggest dual booting HD2Owners ROM found HERE along with AmericanAndroid on the SD found HERE. These two are both realy stable and well supported.
ok now i got very very conpused...
ok know the phone better then me soo i will take your seggestion but now lets make order
soo i want :
02.04.12 HD2O© http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078
AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
ok see first of all i need to take care of my RADIO and SPL and istall WM7.5 soo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478&highlight=install+Windows+Phone+HTC+HD2
and then :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
*this looks very hard... but very hard lots of steps...
and i dont have a android install guid....
doron050 said:
ok now i got very very conpused...
ok know the phone better then me soo i will take your seggestion but now lets make order
soo i want :
02.04.12 HD2O© http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953078
AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
ok see first of all i need to take care of my RADIO and SPL and istall WM7.5 soo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478&highlight=install+Windows+Phone+HTC+HD2
and then :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
*this looks very hard... but very hard lots of steps...
and i dont have a android install guid....
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Ok let me see if I can walk you through this some. First download the 02.04.12 HD2O© ROM, the AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 SD card build, the Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14, the EASEUS ALL-IN-ONE Partition Manager Software mentioned in the guide I linked, and if you do not already have it download the HD2 NAND Toolkit. You will also need to download and install Active Sync or Windows Mobile Device Center (these programs have the USB drivers you will need) depending on what version of Windows you have, you will just have to google for a download as I do not know what version of windows you have, I suggest you put both the WP7 ROM, the Android SD card build, and the 2.15.50.14 Radio in a folder that you can easily remember were they are on your computer. Also go ahead and install both the HD2 Toolkit and the partitioning software on your computer.
Now to make sure you do not have any problems with your SD card I recommend you do a full re-format of your SD card. You will need a USB card reader and a Micro SD card adapter.I linked them just so you will have a visual reference of what you need, but those are the ones I have and they work great. Aslo if your computer has a card reader you like mine does you just need a Micro SD card adapter. Now back to re-formatting your SD card.
Place your SD card in the Micro SD card adapter, then place the Micro SD card adapter in the USB card reader (or the USB card reader on your computer), and then plug the USB card reader into one of the USB ports on your computer. Let your computer install the drivers and go to the windows start menu and click on Computer or My computer depending on which version of Windows you are using. You should see the SD card as a removable drive. Right click the drive and select copy and then create a folder to paste the data that is on the SD card already so you will have a backup. Now right click on the drive again and select format, when the format window pops up make sure to uncheck the the box beside Quick Format and also make sure it says FAT32 under File System. Click Start and then click Ok on the warning window that pops up. Then set back and relax until the card is done being formatted.
Now you need to make sure you have at least 50% or more battery, but I suggest you have a full charge before you start just to be safe. Once you have the proper battery level you need to boot your HD2 into the bootloader by holding the volume down button down while you power on your HD2. When you see the multicolor boot connect it via USB and wait until you see the Serial in the white bar of the bootloader change to USB. Now open the folder with the 2.15.50.14 Radio in it and extract the files from the .rar file, you will need Win RAR to do this. Once you have the files extracted click on the CustomRUU.exe file and follow all of the on screen instructions. Once the RUU is done you will have the 2.15.50.14 Radio installed on your HD2.
Next you need to boot your HD2 back into the bootloader and connect it to your computer via USB again. Open the HD2NAND Toolkit and click on the Install HSPL button under Main Tools. Follow the on screen instructions and when it is done you will have HSPL 2.08 installed on your HD2. Now go back to the HD2 NAND Toolkit and click on the Insatall MAGLDR button under Main Tools. Follow the on screen instructions and when it is done you will have MAGLDR 1.13 installed on your HD2.
Now that you have MAGLDR installed on your HD2 it should only boot up to the MAGLDR 1.13 main menu. Go to option number 5 USB Flasher and then find the HD2O ROM file you downloaded and extract the files drom it. Once the files are extracted click on the DWI.exe and follow the on screen commands. When it is done you will have Windows Phone 7 on your HD2.
Now you need to follow the part of the guide you linked that I have quoted below. I left the link to the video of the method that I have quoted so watch it as it is a very good video. Oh and in case you do not notice it in the video, you need to hold down the power button while your HD2 is booting to boot to the MAGLDR main menu. And the video will show you how to get the Android build to boot on your HD2.
darrengladysz said:
THIRD METHOD - USING A SINGLE SD CARD - HERE IS ANOTHER ALTERNATE METHOD PROPOSED BY XDA MEMBER HYELLOW (UPDATED)
1. Put your sd card inside the hd2 and power on.
2. Go to about screen, in settings, and reset your device. Let it reset and boot to WP7 again. While booting to WP7, it'll create the partitions it needs, so this is important. After you have gone through the setup wizard, go to about screen and reset your device again.
3. When it has booted into magldr screen, remove the sd card and insert into pc. (make sure that magldr is shown and stays there at bootup, otherwise it'll boot straight into wp7 without sd card and that is not what we want.
4. You'll see two partitions. A whopping 200mb of fat16 partition and the other is unformatted. Now right click on the unformatted partition and click delete. After that, click apply. Now you have unallocated space. Right click on the unallocated space and select create. Set parameters to logical and unformatted and size the partition. This will be your WP7 partition, so decide how much you want to allocate to it, this is permanent, no changes afterwards can be made. Also, make sure you move it to the end of the sd card in the same 'create' window. Hit apply. IMPORTANT When using this method make sure that the wp7 "unformatted partition" is larger than the Android partition otherwise the wp7 "unformatted partition" will move in 2nd place and you will not be able to resize the fat 16 / android partition.
5. Sit back and take a break.
break.
6. You now have a green fat16 partition to the left, some unallocated grey portion in the middle and your WP7 partition in modern turqoise colour on the far right. Agreed? Now remove the sd card from PC and insert in HD2.
7. After you have inserted the sd card, let it boot into WP7. Remember what your last action was when you were still in WP7? Yes, you pressed reset, so the device actually thinks he is still resetting the device. He might do it too, but just go through the setup wizard again.
8. Go to about screen and verify your storage. Don't look strange if when the storage has a different of about 1Gb, this is swallowed by WP7 for system stuff etc. Are you happy with the progress so far? Then power down your device and remove the sd card. Allow the HD2 to fully powered down as sometimes the screen is pitch black, but the device is still turning off.
9. Insert the sd card in pc and, using EASUS right click on the green fat 16 partition and select resize/move. Now fill up the rest of the unallocated space and hit apply. This is your android partition.
10. Format the sd android partition (not the whole sd card!) using EASUS to FAT32 using 32 or 64 kb cluster size and put an android build onto it and test.
11. IMPORTANT You need to convert the wp7 unformatted partition to primary for the sd android to see the sd card Use minitool partition wizard to do this. Right click on your WP7 unformatted partition and select modify and then click on set as primary and hit apply. Here is the link for minitool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10887494&postcount=372
VIDEO INSTRUCTIONS
Here is another video by Geolo for persons with only 1 card and 1 card reader. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
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Hope this is detailed enough for you.
T-Macgnolia did a great job with the walk-through the only thing I would suggest is that you can save yourself a LOT of headache if after you get the HD20 ROM installed use CAB Sender and send one of the partition updates from xboxmod to your phone. This will let you skip all the hard partitioning stuff. The CAB's with various partition sizes can be found HERE. After you send the CAB you will have to go to 'Settings' -> 'about' -> 'reset your phone' -> 'yes' -> 'yes'
From that point on you can finish with installing Android onto the SD card.
ok soo first of all thank you very very very mach enry one! the phone will arrive (i ordered it from ebay) in a week in the meen time i downloaded all the file i need and im reading about RADIO and HSPL and seeing a video in youtube
now i didnt understend the secend post i got a 8GB SD card soo what i do with the program is chosing 8GB after i got WM7.5 install and it is insted of:
Now you need to follow the part of the guide you linked that I have quoted below. I left the link to the video of the method that I have quoted so watch it as it is a very good video. Oh and in case you do not notice it in the video, you need to hold down the power button while your HD2 is booting to boot to the MAGLDR main menu. And the video will show you how to get the Android build to boot on your HD2.
Originally Posted by darrengladysz
THIRD METHOD - USING A SINGLE SD CARD - HERE IS ANOTHER ALTERNATE METHOD PROPOSED BY XDA MEMBER HYELLOW (UPDATED)
1. Put your sd card inside the hd2 and power on.
2. Go to about screen, in settings, and reset your device. Let it reset and boot to WP7 again. While booting to WP7, it'll create the partitions it needs, so this is important. After you have gone through the setup wizard, go to about screen and reset your device again.
3. When it has booted into magldr screen, remove the sd card and insert into pc. (make sure that magldr is shown and stays there at bootup, otherwise it'll boot straight into wp7 without sd card and that is not what we want.
4. You'll see two partitions. A whopping 200mb of fat16 partition and the other is unformatted. Now right click on the unformatted partition and click delete. After that, click apply. Now you have unallocated space. Right click on the unallocated space and select create. Set parameters to logical and unformatted and size the partition. This will be your WP7 partition, so decide how much you want to allocate to it, this is permanent, no changes afterwards can be made. Also, make sure you move it to the end of the sd card in the same 'create' window. Hit apply. IMPORTANT When using this method make sure that the wp7 "unformatted partition" is larger than the Android partition otherwise the wp7 "unformatted partition" will move in 2nd place and you will not be able to resize the fat 16 / android partition.
5. Sit back and take a break.
break.
6. You now have a green fat16 partition to the left, some unallocated grey portion in the middle and your WP7 partition in modern turqoise colour on the far right. Agreed? Now remove the sd card from PC and insert in HD2.
7. After you have inserted the sd card, let it boot into WP7. Remember what your last action was when you were still in WP7? Yes, you pressed reset, so the device actually thinks he is still resetting the device. He might do it too, but just go through the setup wizard again.
8. Go to about screen and verify your storage. Don't look strange if when the storage has a different of about 1Gb, this is swallowed by WP7 for system stuff etc. Are you happy with the progress so far? Then power down your device and remove the sd card. Allow the HD2 to fully powered down as sometimes the screen is pitch black, but the device is still turning off.
9. Insert the sd card in pc and, using EASUS right click on the green fat 16 partition and select resize/move. Now fill up the rest of the unallocated space and hit apply. This is your android partition.
10. Format the sd android partition (not the whole sd card!) using EASUS to FAT32 using 32 or 64 kb cluster size and put an android build onto it and test.
11. IMPORTANT You need to convert the wp7 unformatted partition to primary for the sd android to see the sd card Use minitool partition wizard to do this. Right click on your WP7 unformatted partition and select modify and then click on set as primary and hit apply. Here is the link for minitool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=372
VIDEO INSTRUCTIONS
Here is another video by Geolo for persons with only 1 card and 1 card reader. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cUdB4_5f4
after the program i do part 11? or 10? or i jast install android? what is this program do? make room for the anndroid right?
doron050 said:
ok soo first of all thank you very very very mach enry one! the phone will arrive (i ordered it from ebay) in a week in the meen time i downloaded all the file i need and im reading about RADIO and HSPL and seeing a video in youtube
now i didnt understend the secend post i got a 8GB SD card soo what i do with the program is chosing 8GB after i got WM7.5 install and it is insted of:
Now you need to follow the part of the guide you linked that I have quoted below. I left the link to the video of the method that I have quoted so watch it as it is a very good video. Oh and in case you do not notice it in the video, you need to hold down the power button while your HD2 is booting to boot to the MAGLDR main menu. And the video will show you how to get the Android build to boot on your HD2.
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Well to be very honest to you I have only flashed four WP7 ROMs to my HD2. So my knowledge of the ends and outs of WP7 on the HD2 is somewhat limited. I do remember reading something about Cab Sender. I think you have your HD2 booted into the WP7 ROM and your HD2 connected via USB to your computer to I se the Cab Sender to transfer cab files to your HD2 and install them also. Maybe XDA Seior Member voluptuary can spread some more light on it for you. But if I remember correctly if what voluptuary is telling to do takes out Step 1 to 11 of the guide I qouted and everything in the video up to here he puts te Android build on the SD card as I think it will. Then I say it sounds like you may want to check it out I am willing to bet it is not complicated to figure out.
Now just on a side note, I do still say it would be a very good idea to still do it te other way even if you try the Cab Sender. It is always a very good idea of how to manually do things. This way you understand a little bit better what you are doing to your device. And remember knowledge is power.
doron050 said:
THIRD METHOD - USING A SINGLE SD CARD - HERE IS ANOTHER ALTERNATE METHOD PROPOSED BY XDA MEMBER HYELLOW (UPDATED)
1. Put your sd card inside the hd2 and power on.
2. Go to about screen, in settings, and reset your device. Let it reset and boot to WP7 again. While booting to WP7, it'll create the partitions it needs, so this is important. After you have gone through the setup wizard, go to about screen and reset your device again.
3. When it has booted into magldr screen, remove the sd card and insert into pc. (make sure that magldr is shown and stays there at bootup, otherwise it'll boot straight into wp7 without sd card and that is not what we want.
4. You'll see two partitions. A whopping 200mb of fat16 partition and the other is unformatted. Now right click on the unformatted partition and click delete. After that, click apply. Now you have unallocated space. Right click on the unallocated space and select create. Set parameters to logical and unformatted and size the partition. This will be your WP7 partition, so decide how much you want to allocate to it, this is permanent, no changes afterwards can be made. Also, make sure you move it to the end of the sd card in the same 'create' window. Hit apply. IMPORTANT When using this method make sure that the wp7 "unformatted partition" is larger than the Android partition otherwise the wp7 "unformatted partition" will move in 2nd place and you will not be able to resize the fat 16 / android partition.
5. Sit back and take a break.
break.
6. You now have a green fat16 partition to the left, some unallocated grey portion in the middle and your WP7 partition in modern turqoise colour on the far right. Agreed? Now remove the sd card from PC and insert in HD2.
7. After you have inserted the sd card, let it boot into WP7. Remember what your last action was when you were still in WP7? Yes, you pressed reset, so the device actually thinks he is still resetting the device. He might do it too, but just go through the setup wizard again.
8. Go to about screen and verify your storage. Don't look strange if when the storage has a different of about 1Gb, this is swallowed by WP7 for system stuff etc. Are you happy with the progress so far? Then power down your device and remove the sd card. Allow the HD2 to fully powered down as sometimes the screen is pitch black, but the device is still turning off.
9. Insert the sd card in pc and, using EASUS right click on the green fat 16 partition and select resize/move. Now fill up the rest of the unallocated space and hit apply. This is your android partition.
10. Format the sd android partition (not the whole sd card!) using EASUS to FAT32 using 32 or 64 kb cluster size and put an android build onto it and test.
11. IMPORTANT You need to convert the wp7 unformatted partition to primary for the sd android to see the sd card Use minitool partition wizard to do this. Right click on your WP7 unformatted partition and select modify and then click on set as primary and hit apply. Here is the link for minitool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=372
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^-- This whole part you don't need to do.
after the program i do part 11? or 10? or i jast install android? what is this program do? make room for the anndroid right?
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All you would have to do is after you install the HD20 WP7 ROM send one of the partition CAB's I linked to earlier, so say you want a 2GB partition for Android you would send "DEV_EXTRAPART_2G.cab" with CAB Sender and then do a full reset from within WP7. Then let WP7 reboot and you should be all set to power down the phone take the SD card out and copy the 'Android' folder over to the SD card that you would have taken out of the ZIP from the AmericanAndroid thread. You have to be sure to follow the few instuctions in the AmericanAndroid ZIP readme to get it to boot via MAGLDR.
Then to point MAGLDR to the right place to boot Android you need to, while powering the phone on with the loaded up SD card, press and hold the power button to get into the MAGLDR menu then go to '10. Services' -> '1. BootSettings' -> '3. AD SD Dir' and then select the 'Android' folder you just copied over to your SD card.
all is great!!! one lest Question how do i do a windows live acc ?
the phone will arreive in a faw days...
doron050 said:
all is great!!! one lest Question how do i do a windows live acc ?
the phone will arreive in a faw days...
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Well to get a Windows live account you just have to go to live.com and creat a account or just creat one when you go through the set up when you first boot WP7.
But I think what you are asking is how to get live services working. To do this you will have to contact Microsoft. Check out this thread for more details on it. I got my code over live chat on m computer, I told them it was a HTC HD7.
Or you can use skype and call 1-800-642-7676
its microsft Us support number and its toll free so you can call it on skype for free (from anywehre in world) say you have a technical problem and its user related.
then it will connect you to an operator
he/she will ask for your problem, just say u have a HTC HD7 phone and it wants a 25 digit activation code from u.
Then he/she will ask for your phone number, ur operator, ur email, and your name (don't worry they r not gonna spy on u, they just want it for registration, believe me I know ;-P )
then u have to be on hold for 5-10 mins and he/she will read u the activation code
BUT: if you have a poor connection or bad English language skills then the chat method is far better
PS: my opinion as an ORD? it doesn't worth the hassle. I remember after lots of hours spending online and finding the best rom and the best way to change to WP7 and finally activating it... I couldn't make it through the first day on WP7 (even thou I had SD android, the wake up bug really bugged me). then I just flashed to an ICS rom and then it was happily ever after
ok thanks evrey one soo i see a lot of ppl say thet WM7.5 is not thet good...
but i have 2 more qestion:
ace4cia i saw ICS on HD2 in youtube and i saw it is slow not moving fast do you have thet problam ?
and what rom do you advise?
and whan voluptuary says DEV_EXTRAPART_2G.cab its for the sastem only? if i install apps i can do it only on the 2 G or the all SD card
doron050 said:
i saw ICS on HD2 in youtube and i saw it is slow not moving fast do you have thet problam ?
and what rom do you advise?
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nope, not at all, well it's not like a quadcore phone but it is pretty well for ours, still far better than wp7 though ↖(^▽^)↗
and for the rom if ur looking for beauty and performance together the ics miui.us by smokin is awesome, but if ur looking for stock looks of ics and ofc performance then nexushd or aokp are cool too ㄟ(≧◇≦)ㄏ
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA