x10 display improvement - XPERIA X10 General

As most of u are aware, after the 2.1 update, the x10 display will no longer be limited by software and its display will bump up from 65thou to 16m colors, as u can see theres a way bigger spectrum of colors that our phones will display so my question is, will that diffrence be huge? Will it be noticable? how will it improve display quality(in terms of sharpness, beauty, depth, quality...erc)?

My guess is better quality games. 720p video on youtbe and recordings will be better. Picture quaity and a more clearer display overall. I want this update lol
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Changes will surely be noticeable, i still think they did a pretty darn good job with the colours as it is now really looking forward to see the changes
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Tjotte said:
Changes will surely be noticeable, i still think they did a pretty darn good job with the colours as it is now really looking forward to see the changes
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i agree, i came from a iphone 3g and the quality is way better, i dont knw how much better it might get

wallpapers will be a big difference

My understanding is that having more colours will only make a difference if you're looking at things that are extremely close to the same colour (i.e. gradients). Just compare it to some phone with 16M colours, see if there's any noticeable difference.

you mean you won't notice this ?

i am waiting for this update man

mezo9090 said:
you mean you won't notice this ?
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If I stare very closely at the Mediascape background for a couple seconds, I can see some bands, where the shades don't change smoothly. Maybe you have sharper eyes than me, because I am not at all bothered by it..

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If I stare very closely at the Mediascape background for a couple seconds, I can see some bands, where the shades don't change smoothly. Maybe you have sharper eyes than me, because I am not at all bothered by it..
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compare it to your x10 and tell me the difference please. is it the same ?

I don't think you'll notice any difference as the Screen on the X10 only supports 65K colours, irrespective of what the OS can support, check out the Spec on the SE website.

I don't expect much difference. I mean, I never go like "oh man, the colors on my X10 suck, I wish they were better". The colors are fine the way they are (to me). I never stare at the screen long enough to notice color banding that may occur in some pictures.

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I don't think you'll notice any difference as the Screen on the X10 only supports 65K colours, irrespective of what the OS can support, check out the Spec on the SE website.
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the hardware supports 16m colors but now its limited to the os

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the hardware supports 16m colors but now its limited to the os
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My mistake, I was under the impression that the hardware was only capable of 65K, in the same way that it's not capable of MT, irrespective of OS level.
I hope you're right

It will be fairly subjective, dependant on both the picture and the person viewing.
Alot of pics are going to look better, others will show little difference.
Personally I can't wait to have wallpapers that have no bloody bands of colour instead of a grady'all change of shade. It looks horrible.
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Iphone 4 quality compared to Xperia X10 Screen

My friend came over to mine the other day with his new Iphone 4. Comparing it to my X10. The X10 quality looks shockingly awful compared to the Iphone 4, now its stayed in my head that the X10 screen isnt as good as what I use to think it was since seeing the Iphone 4's Screen. It is truely amazing!!!!!
Trying my best to find Hi-Def wallpapers since he had an Hi-Def Wallpaper on his Iphone 4, to try and make my screen look half decent, but I havent come across any of yet..
After a bit of research i found the screen Hardware Capabilities and Specs.
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Iphone 4 -
TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 640 x 960 pixels, 3.5 inches
Xperia X10 -
TFT capacitive touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 480 x 854 pixels, 4.0 inches
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So, X10 has a 4 Inch screen and 409,920 Pixels (Bigger screen less pixels than Iphone 4 screen)
and Iphone 4 has 3.5 Inch screen and 614,400 Pixels. (Smaller screen more pixels compared to X10 screen) which means, this is obviously a better screen than X10
Is it just me who thinks this? also does the 16M colours that the Iphone 4 has, take any effect on this because I read that the human eye can only see X amount of colours.
Also I know I am never going to get close or near quality to the Iphone 4 Screen, but does anybody know which type of wallpapers bring out the best quality in the X10?
Thanks!
even if its as you say the iphone 4 has a lot of BUGS like the one when you lose the signal when you hold the phone.
So i think that you should thank god you have a X10 and not a iphone 4
just my opinion.
x10 has 16M, just not on android 1.6
use any wallpaper from this thread
Wait for the update, then you will appreciate your x10's display more.
The X10 has a wonderful screen. Leave the iphones for those without personalities.
Dont believe apple when they say they have x million colors. They have said that about all their screens and have been sued before for lying about it. Besides, I trust a sony screen before an apple screen because sony really knows their stuff.
iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit LED-backlit
Edit: although the X10 looks like a CCFL backlit display, it's indeed a LED-backlit one. This is clear from the disassembly shots posted on this board, as the X10 display panel doesn't have a high voltage cable going from a screen bulb to an inverter (CCFL structure) and only has one connector (LED structure).
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iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit
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Where is your source on this?
With the same resolution, smaller screen always look better than a bigger screen. Just compare same resolution 32 and 52 LCD TV, which one looks sharper? Iphone is 3.5", X10 is 4", of course the "smaller" screen looks better.
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With the same resolution, smaller screen always look better than a bigger screen. Just compare same resolution 32 and 52 LCD TV, which one looks sharper? Iphone is 3.5", X10 is 4", of course the "smaller" screen looks better.
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Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
Im not jelous of the iphone just consider flash on the iphone it is capable event whit his gazillion resolution screen
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Just laugh at iPhone users about the fact that your phone isn't being remotely accessed by the control freak that is Steve Jobs (yes he stalks his customer ).
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k1sr said:
Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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I agree, screen resolution isnt important on a SMART phone. Keyword smart, its for computing and being all around practical. by that respect almost all 'Droid' series phones win hands down as well as the X10.
Although name calling is alittle childish, Apple deserves it for their behavior toward customers in this 'ipoo 4' crap.
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Although name calling is alittle childish, Apple deserves it for their behavior toward customers in this 'ipoo 4' crap.
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Childish, and fun...
k1sr said:
Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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It is actually 1.5 times the resolution not double.
cytokine said:
iPhone 4 - IPS-panel, LED-backlit
XPERIA X10 - TN-panel, CCFL-backlit
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I really doubt they can fit a ccfl tube into a mobile phone. I think all smartphones have a led backlight.
Also nowhere on the internet is stated what sort of panel is used in the xperia x10.
on topic: All apple products are bad, only their macosx software is good. For example, their ipods have worse sound quality than other mp3 players that cost half as much. Their iphone 4 is a complete design flaw, it just sucks and android is a better os. At the moment the screen of de xperia x10 is limited to 65k colors, so we have to wait untill the update in Q3 or Q4 to see it's true potential.
And at some point it doesn't matter anymore how much pixels the screen has, because you can't see the individual pixels anymore. The screen of de X10 has enough pixels in my opinion.
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Yeah, but the iPhlegm does actually have double the resolution, so that's a moot point...
In all honesty, I was pretty amazed by the iPoo's specs, it does have amazing resolution, but do yo really need that much on a phone...?
Impressed, yes. Envious, no
Screen specs aside, what about some of the other sepcs, like Android OS vs. iShite OS - x10 wins hands down (even with 1.6)
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How old are you? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you post things like "iPoo"?
To the OP: What's so "obviously better" about the screen? The fact that it's smaller? Both phones are incredibly clear and easy to read, not to mention bright.
To everyone: If you're so worked up over specs, why did you buy an X10? There are more things to a phone (and life, really...) than pure specs.
iead1 said:
How old are you? Do you expect to be taken seriously when you post things like "iPoo"?
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petty much. can't take anyone who calls it iPoo seriously. It's iPoop.
metcard said:
petty much. can't take anyone who calls it iPoo seriously. It's iPoop.
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You beat me to it! I've been calling it that for ages!
The lack of colour range on the X10 is a tad annoying, although for most things you may not even notice it. It will be nice when SE releases 2.1 and the colour support is better.
As for the iPhones resolution; it's pretty nice. From what I've seen images are very crisp and clear. That being said, I ditched the iPhone/iPod Touch for the X10 because the screen was too small, not because the resolution was. That hasn't changed.

The truth!! X10 vs. SGS...

Hi guys,
I own a Xperia X10 ( latest firmware version available)and i had the opportunity yesterday to use a Samsung Galaxy S for the whole day. SGS belogs to a friend of mine.
Here are my impressions of the Sam G. S in comparasion to our "beloved" X10.
1.Screen
Colours are more vivid on SGS, but X10 has better resolution. I could differentiate the pixels on SGS, but not on X10. I'm quite picky with screen resolutions. I own a Iphone4 aswell and i can say X10 its not very behind iPhone4 concerning the screen resolution and crispness image. X10 just needs the 2.1 to boost to 16 million colours and get more vivid contrast.
2.Touch screen.
Exactly the same. They're balanced. I just wish to get MT on X10. MT can be useful in certain situations.
3. UI Performance.
Although X10 has the old 1.6 Android, i had the impression that lags less (mine doesn't lag at all and i´ve plenty of applications installed) than the SGS. I felt that the fluidity of X10 is pretty good, now that i've used my friends SGS for a whole day. Switching screens was more laggy and the refreshment rate was worse than on X10 - i couldn't believe what i was experiencing.
4. Multimedia.
Oh god. I've just to say that there isn't any phone with such a great audio quality as the X10. Miles ahead of the SGS and even Iphone4 that i also own. Crispy and balanced tones on X10. SGS was pretty average.
Video is also interesting: Refreshing rates / fps were the same watching the same movie. X10 is more crispy and the SGS has more vivid colours.
conclusion:
Android 2.1 will leverage X10 to a much higher level and it will be on pair or even better than almost all Android phones including those with the 2.2 version.
I'm not replacing my X10 for the SGS as i was planning before.
Hope it helps!
That seems like a fair comparison and is very inline with what I experienced using the AT&T Captivate. I had that device for 28 days and replaced it with the X10.
The lag is generally believed to be because of the file system Samsung chose (RFS). It's not clear why they chose RFS and the lag fixes floating around basically make a new data partition with EXT2, EXT3, or EXT4. It doesn't matter for me at this point but I'm glad I don't have to rely on Samsung to fix all the issues on their Galaxy S devices. There are many other annoyances on the Captivate but I won't bother listing them. The bottom line is that for me the X10 is a much better device.
Thank you very much for an interesting post in a long time and thank you for a good clean review! Very much appriciated
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4. Multimedia.
Oh god. I've just to say that there isn't any phone with such a great audio quality as the X10.
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REALLY??? I hope you are not talking about x10's speaker audio quality..
i LOVE x10.. but seriously.. i have to listen to everything through bluetooth headset or an earphone.. the sound is HORRIBLE when you just have it on the speaker, and it hurts my ears.. especially on higher volumes...and yes.. i've compared it to other phones.. my lg new chocolate sounds a lot better compared to x10.. (only comparing the speaker audio quality)
Seems fair both phones have their positives and negatives, i think the 2.1 update will make the x10 a lot more solid, some people think theres not much difference between between 1.6 and 2.1, but it has its obvious advantages. preferably i would have liked to have seen 2.2 on there but hey il take whatever i can get.
I have both phones and I agree with some of what your saying,yes it lags a bit and text in definitely not as sharp
but in the multimedia you made no sense... The sgs is far better when it comes to watching movies the sharpness is basically the same as the x10 plus more vibrant colours (it also has divx support out of the box). Audio quality is superior on the sgs without a shadow of a doubt even the gsm arena say so(lets not forget it has an equaliser). It has a better battery life and its fully rooted with full boot loader access you have missed out so many sections, sigh maybe i should make my own proper comparison.
I agree having owned both. SGS colors "pop" more, but the colors are not accurate at all. I used to compare to my Nexus One and colors were actually way off on the Samsung.
SGS plays just about any video codec you throw at it which is nice. Listening through headphones the X10 kills it. The screen is just a smooth I think as well.
Go on a Captivate and read web text while scrolling very slowly. There is a really bad "rolling" effect that actually bugged me while using it.
When the X10 gets 2.1 it will certainly hang with the Galaxy S models in my opinion. I just wish the Xperia had the internal storage of the SGS line.
btw, gps performance on the X10 is spot on where Samsungs tend to not be great in that area. Even after their gps "fix" it won't be as fast and accurate as the X10.
I work for AT&T and I see many problems coming in with the Captivate. The browser crashes often and the phone reboots itself a few times a day sometimes. I owned one and my gf still owns one and her's has some of these issues.
Just for clarification:
i meant that the audio quality via headphones...using high quality headphones. Yes X10 is the best in the market. I owned a Nokia N900 and i did the comparasion as well.
Sorry for disagreeing, but the X10 is also more sharp watching videos than the SGS. SGS has to saturated colours.
miguelsantos1979 said:
Just for clarification:
i meant that the audio quality via headphones...using high quality headphones. Yes X10 is the best in the market. I owned a Nokia N900 and i did the comparasion as well.
Sorry for disagreeing, but the X10 is also more sharp watching videos than the SGS. SGS has to saturated colours.
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Well i have to disagree in the audio department but thats down to audio taste i guess. But the sgs video quality is better than the x10 i have viewed the same HD video on both, side by side and you would be a fool to tell anyone the the x10 is better to look at.
Edit: In fact im looking at both now, the sgs blows it out of the water sorry. I can upload pics if you want proof.
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Well i have to disagree in the audio department but thats down to audio taste i guess. But the sgs video quality is better than the x10 i have viewed the same HD video on both, side by side and you would be a fool to tell anyone the the x10 is better to look at.
Edit: In fact im looking at both now, the sgs blows it out of the water sorry. I can upload pics if you want proof.
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Since tihs is a VS. Thread any proof can be uploaded.
I would like to ses the pics
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Since tihs is a VS. Thread any proof can be uploaded.
I would like to ses the pics
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Sure as soon as I get home around 6 ish my 14mp cam is at home.
What is the rom from SGS? I know that Sony Ericsson have 1GB SLC, 50% to ROM and 50% to Storage, in some websites shows 15GB of ROM to Samsung, others 2GB of ROM, 16GB os MLC in SGS is for ROM+Storage like the 1GB SLC in X10?
My best mate has a SGS. We compare all the time. For those in this thread that think the SGS screen is producing more saturated colours etc...
You are just not used to the REAL colours. The SGS has the best screen on the market. It has a 50000:1 contrast ratio! The blacks are near perfect. Which makes the non-black elements "pop" off the screen.
When we both load up the exact same black screen on the same brightness, my x10 looks like it's GREY compared to his SGS. I can use my full black screen in a dark bathroom as a dull light, he can not. As for video watching, the SGS screen is much clearer and and crisp. This is because of its extremely high contrast ratio. Moreover, the x10 on 1.6 can only show 65k colours on a TFT screen. While the SGS SAMOLED screen on 2.1 uses 16million!
I love my x10 guys, but the SGS screen and display is far superior and certainly looks like it when placed side by side with an x10.
Now, when x10 finally gets 2.1 which will allow the x10 to display 16m colours, it will be a whole lot different for comparison, but it still won't match up to the super high contrast ratio that the SGS has.
Samsung uses fake colours, the sony dont have the best screen, but is good, and with great resolution, Sony have 13.3' screen with 1920x1080 in notebooks, and others better than this, Apple and Sony are the kings of resolution
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My best mate has a SGS. We compare all the time. For those in this thread that think the SGS screen is producing more saturated colours etc...
You are just not used to the REAL colours. The SGS has the best screen on the market. It has a 50000:1 contrast ratio! The blacks are near perfect. Which makes the non-black elements "pop" off the screen.
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REAL colours and 50000:1 contrast ratios? HAHAHA. First off, maybe a handful of lcds in current production produce accurate colors and they're not put in mobiles. Secondly, 50000:1 contrast ratios is a marketing gimmick and means something, but it isn't an objective measure in any sense as different companies scale it differently.
When we both load up the exact same black screen on the same brightness, my x10 looks like it's GREY compared to his SGS. I can use my full black screen in a dark bathroom as a dull light, he can not. As for video watching, the SGS screen is much clearer and and crisp. This is because of its extremely high contrast ratio. Moreover, the x10 on 1.6 can only show 65k colours on a TFT screen. While the SGS SAMOLED screen on 2.1 uses 16million!
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Now that there is a huge exaggeration. Also, video quality also varies depending on the media file, player, And screen. Either way, lcd screens on mobiles aren't that great to begin with.
I love my x10 guys, but the SGS screen and display is far superior and certainly looks like it when placed side by side with an x10.
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Maybe, but you certainly don't have any compelling arguments as to why the Galaxy S is better than the x10. Even with the increase in colors, how many can the eye actually distinguish from another? Certainly not 16 million.
Now, when x10 finally gets 2.1 which will allow the x10 to display 16m colours, it will be a whole lot different for comparison, but it still won't match up to the super high contrast ratio that the SGS has.
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Once again, contrast ratio is a subjective metric defined by manufacturers used as a marketing gimmick.
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REAL colours and 50000:1 contrast ratios? HAHAHA. First off, maybe a handful of lcds in current production produce accurate colors and they're not put in mobiles. Secondly, 50000:1 contrast ratios is a marketing gimmick and means something, but it isn't an objective measure in any sense as different companies scale it differently.
Now that there is a huge exaggeration. Also, video quality also varies depending on the media file, player, And screen. Either way, lcd screens on mobiles aren't that great to begin with.
Maybe, but you certainly don't have any compelling arguments as to why the Galaxy S is better than the x10. Even with the increase in colors, how many can the eye actually distinguish from another? Certainly not 16 million.
Once again, contrast ratio is a subjective metric defined by manufacturers used as a marketing gimmick.
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Whats your point ? the x10 has a better screen?
He is suggesting that the samsung dont have a fantastic screen as it appears to be...
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He is suggesting that the samsung dont have a fantastic screen as it appears to be...
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well in all honesty its quite an amazing screen and down playing the specs doesnt make any less amazing.
Samsung is known for it's great picture quality, from it's out of this world LED Tv's to it's cell phones.
the Samsung Galaxy is a superior phone. The X10 better get a lot better with the 2.1 upgrade. Otherwise, Im upgrading it to 2.1 just to add a selling point.
In 2009 it stays in 4th place in TVs...
1º Pionner Kuduro
2º Philips
3º Panasonic
4º Samsung
5º Sony
Something like that, so, nothing impressive... btw, i dont like the samsung colors, totally fake...

Pictures of my Desire HD vs Samsung Galaxy S2

you may find this useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13469463#post13469463
Well done, whilst I agree the Samsung screens are brighter, seeing the S2 has confirmed to me that I really don't want one (other than the fact that there just isn't any way on this earth I would choose a Samsung P.O.S.). That is ugly and does the S2 not do black?
(and maybe a better comparison would be one that doesn't compare a dark background on the DHD verses a bright colourful background on the S2 -nothing like a good bit of biasing is there?).
The GS2 really does seem like a great phone. Although in that third pic, I do like the colours of the Desire HD better. The 'Brightness' text actually seems whiter on the HD and the popup box itself looks darker.
Could you post some better comparison pics where both phones have the same background at lets say 100% brightness and 50% brightness?
Also some battery life comparisons in a couple of days? Ideally with the exact same video playing on both devices and the same settings for both phones, to get a fairly accurate comparison between the two?
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Well done, whilst I agree the Samsung screens are brighter, seeing the S2 has confirmed to me that I really don't want one (other than the fact that there just isn't any way on this earth I would choose a Samsung P.O.S.). That is ugly and does the S2 not do black?
(and maybe a better comparison would be one that doesn't compare a dark background on the DHD verses a bright colourful background on the S2 -nothing like a good bit of biasing is there?).
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that was unintentional, post updated with new like for like pics
Personal preference I guess but I have no problem with the colours / screen on the Desire HD and like I said, not keen on the excessive contrast and a phone is more than just a screen.
I'll be getting another HTC in a few months time.

will Note 3 have 1080p non-pentile?

Do you think the Note 3 will come with a 1080p non pentile screen or 1080p pentile?
I hope it's non pentile, love the RGB SAMOLED on Note II. 1080p RGB SAMOLED is going to be awesome, It's already awesome as it is
Should read this ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247245
Roumers says DAT Sammy Gona use OLED or LCD4 in order to save power ...
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^AMOLED is OLED. SLCD? Doubt it.
It better be 1080p rgb if they want me to "upgrade". Though I'm not that interested in 1080p, the reported energy savings of the newest oled screens is alluring.
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It better be 1080p rgb if they want me to "upgrade". Though I'm not that interested in 1080p, the reported energy savings of the newest oled screens is alluring.
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Yeah, 1080p isn't a dealbreaker for me. I don't honestly still see much difference on a good, well calibrated 720 vs 1080p screens. Probably people with perfect 20/20 vision are the ones who swear they see it, but anyways, I'm more than good with 720p
If they switch to pentile instead of rgb, doesn't matter if it's 1080p, would surely feel awful tbh. Hate pentile displays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-a_sQbRSo
Look at both screens there, Note II and S4.
aiotor algebras
Amoled screens have low brightness so I hope they increase the brightness on outdoor
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Amoled screens have low brightness so I hope they increase the brightness on outdoor
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Actually, it is possible to increase brightness of AMOLEDs a lot - but that would degrade the screen super-fast. Hence the low brightness levels/limits. And obviously the battery drain would be massive considering the whites draining a lot of battery already.
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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In Microeconomics, in consumer choice theory, when analysis the indifference curve, there is a assumption knows as non-satiation, search them up.
Atomix86 said:
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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+1. Can hardly notice any difference between those full HD phones and my Note II after calibration. Actually to me N2 looks quite superior to many of those screens. Don't usually put screens under microscopes though
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In Microeconomics, in consumer choice theory, when analysis the indifference curve, there is a assumption knows as non-satiation, search them up.
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What on earth are you talking about?
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Atomix86 said:
What on earth are you talking about?
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Basically, axiom of non-satiation says "more is better".
therefore 1080p > 720p.
FinancialWar said:
Basically, axiom of non-satiation says "more is better".
therefore 1080p > 720p.
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Nope, I have already stated I would prefer battery life over more pixels, the current display is fine.
By that baseless logic, you could say "more cancer is better than less"... makes no sense.
Atomix86 said:
I honestly cannot see the point in a 1080p screen on a phone, not that it is a bad thing by any means, but I find the current resolution more than adequate and more pixels mean higher battery drain/more stress on the gpu.
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Apparently some people have super vision and can see the pixels even in a 440DPI screen. (not joking)
Well (un)luckily, I don't even have 20/20 vision (still pretty decent eyesight, mind) and I'm good with my Note 2
I think lot of the "way too obvious" differences people notice are mere placebo effect. I mean 440ppi full HD? That HAS to be WAY better right? Seeing what they want to see etc. But yeah, probably there are people with perfect super vision who can make out the difference.
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Well (un)luckily, I don't even have 20/20 vision (still pretty decent eyesight, mind) and I'm good with my Note 2
I think lot of the "way too obvious" differences people notice are mere placebo effect. I mean 440ppi full HD? That HAS to be WAY better right? Seeing what they want to see etc. But yeah, probably there are people with perfect super vision who can make out the difference.
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As soon as people needs a microscope to tell which one is better I loose interest. Even at home, when everybody is buying the new Hi-Res flat screen TV, I choose to buy a projector, It's only 720p but the size is 300cm X 170cm. No TV can beat that yet
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higher pixel density but looks similar to lower pix phone

xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
Hate Android Lag said:
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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Well my friend its share you got this phone if can't tell the difference... How sharp the screen looks depends on the image it shows.... Also you can open any Internet browser on both z1 And sola As you mention, then open any web page with text And zoom in all the way if you still can't see the difference Then you need to get glasses or Have your eyes checked... Peace
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Well higher resolution means that you will see worse display from low quality material and epic quality from full HD material. DVD rips looked fine on my Xperia Play (480x854) and on XZ1 they don't look good.
If you have a big TV or monitor above 23" you surely will know what I'm talking about.
Websites, UI and stuff like this look perfectly fine. It's up to the resolution how does it look on the screen.
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I kinda noticed "grainyness" with the display when viewing videos. Really didn't like it at all, and it looked bad compared to the Xperia S I had been using a week prior.
Well, I found that while the X-Reality setting made colours "pop" in videos and pictures, things seemed to get kinda grainy looking. I've been running with it off for a few days now, and I reckon it looks much clearer now. Plus, vids and pics don't look like they have been artificially tweaked with.
This is the worst 1080p screen I have ever seen in a mobile phone.
Phone is owesome, but the screen!!!
don have any problems with the display ! its super sharp and to notice the diff. u need to view a full HD image any low quality pic will look worse as the display will DISPLAY more of it hope u got what i mean.
Another test open any PDf .. on 1080p displays you will read the texts much easier but on low ppi u will need to zoom in alittle to make it clear.
ashouhdy said:
Another test open any PDf .. on 1080p displays you will read the texts much easier but on low ppi u will need to zoom in alittle to make it clear.
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I have to agree, this screen sucks compared to any other 1080p screen. But I have to admit there are moments when the screen makes me say wow that looks amazing but unfortunately the Sun moon and stars have to line up correctly for me to say that
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shook187 said:
But I have to admit there are moments when the screen makes me say wow that looks amazing but unfortunately the Sun moon and stars have to line up correctly for me to say that
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LOL! so is not that bad..:laugh:
Hate Android Lag said:
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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Sola is 3.7 inches and has a ppi of 265.
300 dpi is the norm when printing beyond which telling the difference gets harder.
you're about 40 ppi away from being able to tell the difference. The difference will not be that significant but if you look carefully it will be there. Which to you means the display looks similar. Had the sola screen been bigger and the ppi around 200 then the difference would have been more prominent when compared to Z1.
Hate Android Lag said:
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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turn off x reality engine.
Very, very happy with the screen here, nice and bright, sharp, lovely colours, especially when coming from an amoled. Even the viewing angles are not quite as bad as some complain and through my eyes, the white looks white.
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Very, very happy with the screen here, nice and bright, sharp, lovely colours, especially when coming from an amoled. Even the viewing angles are not quite as bad as some complain and through my eyes, the white looks white.
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Other than white, everything else looked great on AMOLED. Coming from Note.
Even when Compared to Nexus 5 LCD, Z1 display lacks lusture. Nexus 5 and other 1080p display phones have amazing contrast and colors.
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Other than white, everything else looked great on AMOLED. Coming from Note.
Even when Compared to Nexus 5 LCD, Z1 display lacks lusture. Nexus 5 and other 1080p display phones have amazing contrast and colors.
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Come from a note too, honestly enjoyed Amoled, however, I am really not sure where the complaints are coming from.
There's some threads claiming not all the screens are the same, I'm either viewing my display from tired eyes or I got lucky, no idea.
Put it this way, side by side with my wife's note 3, the only thing I'm jealous about is the IR blaster.
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ishaqs60 said:
Well my friend its share you got this phone if can't tell the difference... How sharp the screen looks depends on the image it shows.... Also you can open any Internet browser on both z1 And sola As you mention, then open any web page with text And zoom in all the way if you still can't see the difference Then you need to get glasses or Have your eyes checked... Peace
Sent from my Xperia Z1 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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well, on the same vintage theme(stock theme), i noticed that the theme looks sharper & crispier in the z1 at sony booth. in my z1, the vintage theme doesnt looks sharp & crisp, just normal.
I checked other phones including G2, Note 3, S4. Z1 has no match. But I hear Sony uses different brands of displays for the variants of its phones. If it's true, different users from different areas around the world will have different results. I watched full hd movies, pictures, photos from z1. The results are significantly better than other high end phones. But do not expect hight quality resolution from low quality media. You can't have it. That's why SD broadcast sucks at full hd screens. I even witnessed 4K television showed a full hd video in very low qualty.

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