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Car vs Trinity - Car wins

Yes, it's true. My precious was run over by a car last night. I left it on the roof of my car
It was pretty well destroyed but the battery, SIM, mem card and stylus are all still ok. The stylus and mem card were still in it after being run over twice! HAH.
Spilt milk - new phone time. I can't justify getting a black one because of the ongoing coating issue. They are still shipping junk. HTC recently replaced my bezel and the new one peeled within 2 weeks. Question: white Trinity or alternative? Can anyone suggest a better device? I don't need GPS, BT or Wifi. HSDPA is a must and I won't buy Eten.
Any info would be great to get me started on my search. Also, I am in Chicago for business but I have a couple of afternoons to kill. Does anyone stock phones there?

Get the white one!
It's still the best PDA-phone around (if no H/W keyboard needed)

Anyone have any stories where their trinity beats the car? Heard of a legend once of an unbreakable pre-production trinity where the dude ran it over and it still worked flawlessly. Anyway sorry to hear about your trinity guess it isn't the chosen one.

http://hijackapp.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/hahashow.jpeg

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So much for an stupid link!
Nobody told you time is money?
Please don't waste mine!

Looking Glass said:
So much for an stupid link!
Nobody told you time is money?
Please don't waste mine!
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so when are you going to have the surgery done to get that stick out of your ass?

vanydotk said:
so when are you going to have the surgery done to get that stick out of your ass?
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Why your'e not in the Paris Hilton blog instead of a savvy, polite and technically interesting forum as this one?
Never mind, I already know the answer... no signature, no references... closed thread.

Looking Glass said:
Why your'e not in the Paris Hilton blog instead of a savvy, polite and technically interesting forum as this one?
Never mind, I already know the answer... no signature, no references... closed thread.
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Oh was that a shot at me being stupid? I was being polite until you came along and left your little comment.
I didn't know I needed a signature and references to post on forums or otherwise be creditable. *roll eyes*
Anyway Baxter, it's really a shame to hear about your phone. When you get back home you've got to take pictures and post them if you still have the phone and have not thrown it away yet. (Yes Looking Glass, that's what the picture was implying, to post pictures. Stop being such a negitive Nancy, a man just ran over his 500 dollar phone.)

Don't know about the trinity but I ran over my mio A701 (fell out of my pocket outside mates house and I didn't realize). Smashed the screen and put a few kinks in the casing but it still rang ( mates neighbour picked it up after I'd been ringing it for 10 mins or so). Replaced lcd and its working fine but will be changing to a trinity or a eten x800 end of July when contract expires.

petest said:
Don't know about the trinity but I ran over my mio A701 (fell out of my pocket outside mates house and I didn't realize). Smashed the screen and put a few kinks in the casing but it still rang ( mates neighbour picked it up after I'd been ringing it for 10 mins or so). Replaced lcd and its working fine but will be changing to a trinity or a eten x800 end of July when contract expires.
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Nice choice.

I'm using my Torq P120 (Eten M600) for now. Maybe they have improved the build quality but their customer service is non-existent. I posted my experience on Eten Users forum last year. People are contacting me to figure out how I was able to get service from them. Evidently just getting a response is difficult now.
I think it's time for a white Trinity. Anyone know what ROM is shipping now? When they service my black one, they shipped it back with the original ROM. Is there a particular brand to look for in the US? My last one was HTC branded.

Heh. Had some time to revive my trinity. It works! Well, a little. It booted and I was able to sync & browse via PC. I couldn't get the phone to work. Atleast I can get all of my data & backup one last time.
Screen is toast
Camera glass is broken
Phone doesn't work
Probably not worth the repair even though it would make a good backup device.

Finally remembered...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/Krash7172/Misc/deadtrinity.jpg
It makes a nice charger for my backup battery!!

HTC are Utter Rubbish! edited - because I may have upset some users..

Sorry to say that I recently went from a wizard (which I've had for 18 months) to a hermes...disappointed doesn't even begin to describe my experience.
I had the 'brick' as I've come to call it, 3 days and already it's deceased.
Started getting the 'phantom taps' and now no TS at all.
Rebooted a dozen times and it just wont get past the screen alignment...in fact if you sit and watch it does it itself!
I even know what the issue is as it's been reported in the past but you'd think HTC would've sorted it by now.
HTC are palming off shonky goods as cutting edge.....really disapointed.

Did you flash a custom ROM onto it? Is it a hardware problem? In any case, it's covered by a warranty, you probably just got a defective unit. IMO, the upgrade from my wizard to hermes was a HUGE difference in performance and I'd never go back.

hardware related
Its hardware related....as the device gets warm (probably room temperature!) the screen expands and the TS membrane is pinched. All kinds of fun ensues!
There's no warranty on it..so it wont be going back.
Chalk another one up to experience.

if you have no warranty then you prob didn't pay much and you prob didn't get a new unit, and you prob didn't even get from a reputable place....so buyer beware...if the deal was to good to be true it prob was and did you ever think to ask yourself why the unit was for sale in the first place.

Assume a lot dontcha
It's brand new...from a friend who upgraded almost immediately to a HTC Touch.
You are correct though - didn't cost me a bean - shame my wizard's already gone....
oh..and while you're at it...get off yer high horse!
Assuming that I'm a dumb hick who'll buy anything that's cheap is a bit insulting..

Andy Phillips said:
It's brand new...from a friend who upgraded almost immediately to a HTC Touch.
You are correct though - didn't cost me a bean - shame my wizard's already gone....
oh..and while you're at it...get off yer high horse!
Assuming that I'm a dumb hick who'll buy anything that's cheap is a bit insulting..
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If it's brand new from a friend, why not have him simply return the unit as defective??? Besides, just because you aren't the original buyer doesn't mean there is no warranty...

I have both a Wizard and a Hermes. Apart from the Wizard feeling like it is more rugged when it's in your hand, the Hermes is superior in every other way. And when you load WM6 onto the Hermes, it just blows the Wizard away completely.
If you know enough about this device to know that the innards are "expanding" and that something is being pinched by this, it sounds like you've taken it apart.
You're clearly not telling us the whole story in any case. If you ever want real advice for fixing your Hermes instead of just venting and not telling us what you've done to it to cause these problems, a lot of people here will be happy to help you.
BTW, I've found that doing a soft reset after charging it does a lot for any heat problems if this is truly the only problem you're having.

...several screen alignment "fixes" available on this website...

Lay off the guy
Look folks, the 'phantom tap' is a known and documented hardware issue with Hermes and has nothing to do with where/how/when/why the unit was acquired, nor for how much. Wise up (and shut up if you don't know what you're talking about).
To the OP: Don't give up so easily. In my experience HTC tracks the warranty by serial number. Call them and insist on an RMA. I was successful in getting one fixed free of charge. And guess what... I bought it on ebaY, and the warranty seal had been broken!
Btw, it's not the touch screen. Been there, replaced it, didn't fix it.

Thanks vp3G
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Look folks, the 'phantom tap' is a known and documented hardware issue with Hermes and has nothing to do with where/how/when/why the unit was acquired, nor for how much. Wise up (and shut up if you don't know what you're talking about).
To the OP: Don't give up so easily. In my experience HTC tracks the warranty by serial number. Call them and insist on an RMA. I was successful in getting one fixed free of charge. And guess what... I bought it on ebaY, and the warranty seal had been broken!
Btw, it's not the touch screen. Been there, replaced it, didn't fix it.
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Thanks for that man!
As it turns out the device was still under warranty and it's been returned...just waiting for it to come back!
Funnily enough when I had it the first time, the rom I put on it was your 'Black Satin'! Nice ROM, particularly the file explorer replacement!
Personally I didn't see much in the way of difference between the hermes and the wizard....but I did have it only for three days.
When I get it back I and test it out a bit more, I will gladly eat my words if it out performs the old wizard.
Anyway, I wasn't slating the hermes in itself..many of my friends have one p )..it was HTC themselves for still selling devices to consumers with a known fault.
Andy.

Andy Phillips said:
Sorry to say that I recently went from a wizard (which I've had for 18 months) to a hermes...disappointed doesn't even begin to describe my experience.
I had the 'brick' as I've come to call it, 3 days and already it's deceased.
Started getting the 'phantom taps' and now no TS at all.
Rebooted a dozen times and it just wont get past the screen alignment...in fact if you sit and watch it does it itself!
I even know what the issue is as it's been reported in the past but you'd think HTC would've sorted it by now.
HTC are palming off shonky goods as cutting edge.....really disapointed.
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One dud BMW doesn't make BMW's bad cars. You got a dud, plain and simple. Return it for one that works.
HTC has impressed me, especially lately as they are trying to "redesign" the interface for windows mobile to make it actually usable.

BMWs are incredibly bad cars for the price they are sold for.

Andy Phillips said:
As it turns out the device was still under warranty and it's been returned...just waiting for it to come back!
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Well..... imagine that...
Funnily enough when I had it the first time, the rom I put on it was your 'Black Satin'! Nice ROM, particularly the file explorer replacement!
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Thanks, but I can't take credit for Black Satin... that's JasJamming's ROM...
Personally I didn't see much in the way of difference between the hermes and the wizard....but I did have it only for three days.
When I get it back I and test it out a bit more, I will gladly eat my words if it out performs the old wizard.
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Hope you're hungry...
Anyway, I wasn't slating the hermes in itself..many of my friends have one p )..it was HTC themselves for still selling devices to consumers with a known fault.
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It's a valid gripe, IMO. The problem you experienced is certainly 'hush-hush' with them.

@vp3G
aaah....I thought it was your rom because of the nifty splash screens!
I was considering getting a kaiser but I think I will play it safe and wait until it's been 'in the field' for a while...
See you later,
Andy.

BATTERY COVER CRACK! Have you got one Too???

Hi everybody ,
I haven't been around in a while. I just wanted to point out that some people have noticed a small crack on the back case of the sapphire , HTC magic etc. where the mesh is up the top......
I noticed it and others have on another forum , so i thought it might be a good idea to see if you have it too???
Just wondering if anyone on here had the same problem??

So no one else has this problem?

Nope mines fine, treat it better

Wombat said:
Nope mines fine, treat it better
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LOL , I treat mine like royalty
I thought i would bring it up as users of the vodafone UK Forum board have raised this issue that a number of people have this problem. It seems Like a design fault
Have a read through hear
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26511
Good to hear you have not got it though , The HTC MAGIC is a BEAUTIFUL piece of kit

I have exactly the same crack on the back case of my Vodafon DE

Strange isn't it , Definetly a manufacturers fault
Be warned , it could get larger! As seen in the forum link posted above there is a picture.
According to vodafone , to get it repaired you have to send it off using the repair process which takes about 5 days !!
All to get the case replaced

CLLC said:
Strange isn't it , Definetly a manufacturers fault
Be warned , it could get larger! As seen in the forum link posted above there is a picture.
According to vodafone , to get it repaired you have to send it off using the repair process which takes about 5 days !!
All to get the case replaced
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That's still probably acceptable for many. The people in the link said that it keeps getting bigger and bigger. You're better off looking for a point in time where it would optimal for you to send it off. Then you can give yourself some leeway instead of having to do it as the massive crack in the back of the case demands.

Wow, I just checked mine and I have one too! Never noticed that before! I've had mine a couple of weeks and have looked after it like a baby. Maybe it was there from the start but it's so tiny I didn't notice.

mine got no crack

Mine has the tiniest of cracks but I'm not going to send it off to Vodafone to get fixed. As soon as it launches as the myTouch 3g in the USA aren't they going to be selling new back fascias anyway with designs etc? I think I'll just pick one up on the cheap on ebay when it comes to it getting horribly bad

wowo~~~~mine is ok, and I had used for around two monthes already.

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I have exactly the same crack on the back case of my Vodafon DE
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When did you buy?Did you try to repair it? Hope you can fix it good luck

Mine has the tiniest of cracks but I'm not going to send it off to Vodafone to get fixed. As soon as it launches as the myTouch 3g in the USA aren't they going to be selling new back fascias anyway with designs etc? I think I'll just pick one up on the cheap on ebay when it comes to it getting horribly bad
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This makes the most sense. Hell, even just buy an OEM cover...I don't see what the big deal is!

'Patchy' backlight - what happen?

I've noticed recently the backlight on my HD2 seems to have suffered some sort of malfunction or something. Might be a bit of a strong way of describing it perhaps.
Basically imagine if you have a blank white screen/image showing on the phone, there's a couple of bits on it that always stay in the same place where the brightness is not the same as the rest. I'm certain it's only been like this recently but no idea why.
You can only really notice it with very pale or bits of white on the screen but am wondering:
1 - if anyone else has this,
2 - how it's happened,
3 - anything I can do about it,
In particular if it's a fault with the phone (as I'm certain the phone has never been knocked and it definitely has never been dropped or pressed hard etc), is this something I could get done under warrantee.
If it is, can I get it fixed on warrantee even with no receipt since I bought it on Ebay? Every single HD2 is still in its warrantee period so I hope they could do.
Thanks!

I have the same, they advised me to contact support, but i kinda neglected it for the time being.
I have the same kind of spot in the middle of my screen, i only really see it when the screen is white, annoying tho :/
I dont like the idea of having to send the phone out and missing it for a few weeks :'(

I had the same problem on my device so I called HTC and they picked it up, repaired it and sent it back. Well they sorted out this particular problem (by replacing the LCD panel) but, alas, created few more. The buttons were not placed properly, the body was damaged and etc. So Angry and Disappointed Me called them up and they picked it up again. This time they replaced the whole unit (the actual body if I am not mistaken) and sent it back. Finally I was glad to have my phone back after two weeks.
Funny enough most of the HTC employees that I spoke to had very poor English. And I spoke with quiet a few of them. Luckily I am talented at mimicking broken English and didn't have much problem getting my message across. I'd imagine for most people it should be very difficult to explain their problem and arrange repairs.

Thanks for the replies.
Is it possible to do this without a sales receipt and still not have to pay? I don't think I should have to pay since it's not very old at all but I can't prove it's actually my phone I guess.
Did you just contact them via the XDA website or something?

I got the same issue. Most annoying when reading long emails or articles. I thought about sending it in for repair but I have voided my warranty already and don't want to be missing my hd2 for a couple weeks and get hit with a massive bill. I think it has something to do with the layers in the LCD not being completely flat. But I havent got that far in my explorations of this phone, maybe I will on my next trip.

You should contact HTC support by calling at the number for your country that you can find from the HTC website.
They can do everything with the phone's serial no. At least that's how it worked for my Kaiser I got on ebay too when I had a prob with it.

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I thought about sending it in for repair but I have voided my warranty already.
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Hmmm, good point. I have a custom rom on it so mine probably would be void too right? If I change it back to the original rom it should be ok though presumably?
Thanks anyway - glad this is not me.

I am also seeing this on my HD2. It is very faint and only really noticeable on white screens. Once you know it is there though you can't help but keep looking for it
To be honest I can put up with it as most of the time you can't actually see it, for example I can't see it now due to the keyboard being up.
I'd be interested to know if anyone in the UK sends their phone off for repair as I might do the same. I can't be without my phone though, it would be like loosing my arm!

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I am also seeing this on my HD2. It is very faint and only really noticeable on white screens. Once you know it is there though you can't help but keep looking for it
To be honest I can put up with it as most of the time you can't actually see it, for example I can't see it now due to the keyboard being up.
I'd be interested to know if anyone in the UK sends their phone off for repair as I might do the same. I can't be without my phone though, it would be like loosing my arm!
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I have sent mine. Post 3 above ^^^

AF241 said:
I have sent mine. Post 3 above ^^^
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Ah yes, so you did. Sorry I was looking at the flag on your profile not your location
I have a small crack on the glass of my HD2 as well between the bottom of the phone and the power / end call key. It looks like a small hair stuck under the button Not sure if they would replace the glass for me as well if I sent it off?
I got my phone from O2 so I'm wondering if I'd have to go to O2 for repair or direct to HTC, maybe I could do both
Anyway, for now I think I'll refrain from sending it off unless it really starts annoying me. A bit of a pain though

I've emailed HTC as well to ask about this.....

Arrggghhh...Not Again..I'm Sick of This..!!!

Seriously...I just can't believe my luck.....been using the replacement Note since Friday after receiving it on Thursday from handtec....
GUESS WHAT???....I have found another TWO black DEAD PIXELS!!!!
I found it when I was browsing through XDA....although they are not very visible....but I can still see them when I look closer to the screen, and they really BUG me....!!
Man...it's either that handtec sells inferior quality Notes or Samsung has done a really bad job with screen quality control...At the end of the day...I am really sick and tired of receiving, returning and receiving and now have to returning it again!!!!
Anyone got any advice what I should do now??? Should I return it again or just bear with it or just give up the Note totally?? I mean, it's quite expensive to send it back again and will probably take another 2 weeks for me to get the replacement.
Take a look at the photos..
cheers!

This phone really does have bad quality... I'm on my third galaxy note now and it too has screen problems like the others had (dead pixels, burn-in effect, banding etc), not only does it have a defective screen but the gyroscope isn't working! I've never had such a bad experience with any other phone in the past, I've come to the conclusion that this phone.. just.. sucks. Oh yeah, I bought an Galaxy S2 for my gf and it too had these problems with the screen. Maybe it's not only Galaxy Note that sucks, but the company Samsung. I've never EVER had problems like these with Sony Ericsson or Apple.

SrAdama said:
This phone really does have bad quality... I'm on my third galaxy note now and it too has screen problems like the others had (dead pixels, burn-in effect, banding etc), not only does it have a defective screen but the gyroscope isn't working! I've never had such a bad experience with any other phone in the past, I've come to the conclusion that this phone.. just.. sucks. Oh yeah, I bought an Galaxy S2 for my gf and it too had these problems with the screen. Maybe it's not only Galaxy Note that sucks, but the company Samsung. I've never EVER had problems like these with Sony Ericsson or Apple.
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so.....your third one has screen problems too? Is it bad? You have giving up returning it?
Hopefully I will be third time lucky too...
I have never had a problem with Samsung before...but I can't really believe that I can get 2 problem phones in the row....I really believe that maybe Samsung has roll this phone out too quickly and not paying enough attentions on quality...
If you don't mind me asking...who did you buy your phones from and what version are they?
My first one is a Polish and this second one is a German...Both EU versions

Yes, it's really bad. I mean, I could live with the screen issues as the third one wasn't that bad as the first two (not yet hopefully) but the fact that the gyroscope isn't working makes this phone useless, won't be able to use games like labyrinth and won't be able to auto-rotate the screen...
If I remember correctly all of my phones were made in Korea, all of them imported from Germany.
I don't know what caused this but if you just google around for amoled screen issues you will see that this is pretty widespread, with the galaxy S2 too.

Try to get them unstuck before you return it. There are apps for that, you may get lucky and save yourself the pain in the arse.

pjm77 said:
Try to get them unstuck before you return it. There are apps for that, you may get lucky and save yourself the pain in the arse.
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Dead and stuck pixels are not the same...

pjm77 said:
Try to get them unstuck before you return it. There are apps for that, you may get lucky and save yourself the pain in the arse.
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With my first one...There were 3 green pixels with a line running through them.
With this one...there are 2 small BLACK ones....(i'm pretty sure they are DEAD instead of STUCK)
anyways...what apps do you recommend and how well do they work? I mean, i have tried "JScreenFix" and it didn't work for my first and this one....

SrAdama said:
Yes, it's really bad. I mean, I could live with the screen issues as the third one wasn't that bad as the first two (not yet hopefully) but the fact that the gyroscope isn't working makes this phone useless, won't be able to use games like labyrinth and won't be able to auto-rotate the screen...
If I remember correctly all of my phones were made in Korea, all of them imported from Germany.
I don't know what caused this but if you just google around for amoled screen issues you will see that this is pretty widespread, with the galaxy S2 too.
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so how many dead pixels do you have on this third one? are they big or small?
even though mine are not obvious...but i'm just not happy the fact that I have paid over 700 bucks for something that is defected...that makes me real mad

you know.. when they asked you if they can open it to check if everything is alright, what they really meant was can they send you one that someone else returned which happens to be open already

bamboo12 said:
you know.. when they asked you if they can open it to check if everything is alright, what they really meant was can they send you one that someone else returned which happens to be open already
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This is exactly what happens. They aren't taking a loss on these they just sell them again to some unsuspecting schmoe.

DMax99 said:
so how many dead pixels do you have on this third one? are they big or small?
even though mine are not obvious...but i'm just not happy the fact that I have paid over 700 bucks for something that is defected...that makes me real mad
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I only had dead pixels on the first one, there was also some dust moving around behind the screen.

bamboo12 said:
you know.. when they asked you if they can open it to check if everything is alright, what they really meant was can they send you one that someone else returned which happens to be open already
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you guys really think so? I mean can they really be that dishonest?
Because when i got the replacement, only the ticker on one side of the box has been opened, the sticker on the other side hasn't been touched.

Don't have the dead/stuck pixels problems, but I think I regretted getting the GNote...well for some other reasons.

titus1 said:
Don't have the dead/stuck pixels problems, but I think I regretted getting the GNote...well for some other reasons.
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What reasons Titus? Strange that there is a sudden negative wave going on aboute the Note. Bad omen.....

I bought 2 Notes at Clove and UnlockedMobile. No problems at all.

anonymous572 said:
I bought 2 Notes at Clove and UnlockedMobile. No problems at all.
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Honestly, I dont see comments like this would help the OP in anyway possible.
@OP
Maybe you can talk with them and have the shipping waived, its a DoA product after all.

btentusscher said:
What reasons Titus? Strange that there is a sudden negative wave going on aboute the Note. Bad omen.....
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Don't read too much into it... negativity tends to clump together, just like positivity does...

anonymous572 said:
I bought 2 Notes at Clove and UnlockedMobile. No problems at all.
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What is the month of manufacture of ur phones?
Sent from my GT-I5801 using XDA App

ankydu said:
What is the month of manufacture of ur phones
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Yes, is there any pattern to the good & bad batches? Perhaps also serial numbers (remove a few digits for privacy).

EarlZ said:
Honestly, I dont see comments like this would help the OP in anyway possible.
@OP
Maybe you can talk with them and have the shipping waived, its a DoA product after all.
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Trust me...I really really want to be one of yous (a happy GNote owner)....but it is really out of my control.....especially when I can't check the phone myself since handtec is in UK....that's why i got them to check it for me before they sent the phone....Plus...I would really not care to return it again....IF I don't have to pay another $70 bucks to send it back and WAIT another 2 weeks to get the replacement back.....
All in all....I have only used the phone total of 2 days...and waited about 3 weeks for the 2 phones to arrive to me.....
hope you guys can really see where I am coming from....
An YES....I will try and ask handtec to see if they can pay for the postage this time + send the replacement to me first so I can check to see myself if there's anything wrong with it before I sent the bad one back...because I am SICK of not be able to use my new phone properly.....(thanks for the advice )