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Nexus One Battery Charging

Greetings all, I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that their battery doesn't charge to full when using the wall charger or USB? I have LiPo chargers from RC cars and I have used one to discharge and fully charge the battery to 1400mah and found that the phone seems to have much better battery life than when charged with wall charger / USB.
When charged with the external ("direct") battery charger, I can get to 4211mv whereas normally with the wall/usb it only goes to 4173mv max. From what I know of LiPo/LiIon batteries, they need to get to their max charge voltage (~4200mv) or so and stay there for some time to get full charge.
I have noticed that my phone has terrible battery life when compared to my Touch HD which used to get 20hrs+ of full use on 3G/HSDPA, same usage pattern with push e-mail and I can't even get 12hrs with the Nexus One before the battery runs right down. And I thought the Touch HD had bad battery life!
Any help / feedback would be most appreciated. Thanks!

It's interesting I see this as today has been a very odd battery day. I woke up and unplugged it at exactly 5am. For 7 minutes I checked e-mails and twitter and it had dropped 3%!!! By 8am I was down to 82% (ride in to work, listening to music for 25 mins, thats about all) I was thinking this was getting silly. It's now 5pm here and I'm still at 61%?!?! So, over the first 3 hours it went 6%ph, since then it's done 2.3%... that's the best I've ever got from it.
Could this be related? It's not really fully charged, even though it shows 100%, drops very quickly and then when it returns to where it perhaps should be (around 80%) it acts as normal?
What is a LiPo charger and how can I use one to charge my Nexus battery?

http://blog.quantifly.com/?p=2
iMAX B6 is what I have been using. I have another heavier duty one but this one is good enough for the battery. I have a generic battery charger thing which I got from China which holds the battery while the other unit charges it. Right now as I write this, my phone has been on for 1hr 25minutes after being charged with the charger, I have used the browser for 10minutes, on 3G, downloading things etc. and it is still on 4211mv and 100% charge.
Curious if this is an issue with the onboard battery microchip, or the radio/firmware. Does anyone know where to source an original replacement battery (non-generic replacement)?

The batteries in these smart phones makes no sense. The other day, I charged the phone overnight using USB, and the next day, I was at 97% after 3.5 hrs. Then, another day, with basically the same usage, I'm down to 85% after 3.5 hrs. No rhyme or reason. I wish someone could explain it.
I also wish someone could make a battery that lasts for 48 hours on normal use

"Drops very quicky"
same here but ive had this 'problems' since stock firmware. its not CM related.
I also noticed that its dropping from 100 to 80ish very fast when starting many apps in the morning for example. Like stopping airplane mode, starting some apps and opening browser. stays at 80ish for some hours then

xPatriicK said:
"Drops very quicky"
same here but ive had this 'problems' since stock firmware. its not CM related.
I also noticed that its dropping from 100 to 80ish very fast when starting many apps in the morning for example. Like stopping airplane mode, starting some apps and opening browser. stays at 80ish for some hours then
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Yep. That was the same thing with my Pre. It would never stay at 100% for more than a few minutes, and then it would plummet into the 80's, and then it would be okay.

Battery Antics
I purposely left the phone not to charge last night from about 1AM - and I woke up (around 9:30AM) with it at 99% charge still. Used it for a bit and it dropped to 89% and now it's 1:06PM and it dropped to 75% with calls, web browsing and some other stuff. Previous days to this it would be at 75% after just 2-3 hours!
I also noticed that the phone didn't download any e-mails overnight (since there's no "scheduling" for peak/offpeak like in WM I assumed this shouldn't happen?) which may account for the minimal discharge.
All in all very strange, seems like I am not the only one with these problems - maybe I'll try get another battery and see what happens!

The thing about the battery in a smart phone is that it has a micro chip in it, and the phone reads info from it to give us the battery meter(this is true of any phone, actually)... your LiPo charger reads charge in a similar manner, only it doesn't talk with the batteries chip, instead it does it's own thing(I will spare the details)
With this in mind, what you want to do to get the most out of your battery is get the chip in the battery, and in turn the "circuit" it completes with the phone properly calibrated. To do this, you want to run the phone's battery down until it turns itself off. Do a battery pull and let it sit for a little bit (at least 30 seconds, I usually wait several minutes)... then, put the battery back in, and turn the phone on. One of two things will happen, it will either power off before fully booting, or if it does not you will want to use the phone until it powers off again.
At this point, pull the battery again and let it sit out of the phone for a bit again. Then put it back in, and without trying to power the phone on, put it on the charger and leave it on the charger until it is fully charged "green light comes on" plus a couple hours.(best to leave it on the charger overnight) At this point, take it off the charger, and then turn the phone.
This will properly set the low point and the high point for the battery stats. Do not do this a lot, it is bad for a LiIon battery to be "deep cycled", which this comes really close to doing. Ultimately, the phone is not going to charge the battery as high as a LiPo charger will, nor will it discharge it as low, because unlike an RC car's batteries that are used for rapid discharge, these batteries are designed and used in a slow long term discharge.

Thanks, I'll try that myself
Do you run any risk of damaging the battery when charging with a LiPo?

How to Make Your Cell Phone Battery Last Longer when you need it the most
Tips: How to Make Your Cell Phone Battery Last Longer when you need it the most:
1. Always try to drain your battery or wait till its 15% or below then charge your phone. Its very important to turn the phone off before you plug it to charge. This help maximizing your battery charge.
2. Stop searching for a signal. When you are in an area with poor or no signal, your phone will constantly look for a better connection, and will use up all your power doing so.
3. Switch off the vibrate function on your phone, and use just the ring tone instead.
4. Turn off your phone's back light.
5. Avoid using unnecessary features. If you know it will be a while before your phone’s next charge, don’t use the camera or connect to the Internet. Flash photography can drain your battery especially quickly.
6. Keep calls short. This is obvious, but how many times have you heard someone on their mobile phone say, "I think my battery’s dying," and then continue their conversation for several minutes? Sometimes, the dying battery is just an excuse to get off the phone (and a good one, at that), but if you really need to conserve the battery, limit your talk time.
7. Turn off Bluetooth. It will drain your battery very quickly.
8. Same goes for WIFI, GPS, and infrared capabilities, if your phone has these features built in. Keep them off; save more power.
9. Use GSM - Using your phone in 3G / Dual Mode will drain the battery quicker than if you just use GSM mode - have a look at your phones spec and you'll see it will quote two different battery life times - normally 50% more for pure GSM use.
Very Important:
Anyone purchase a new phone. Its best DO NOT USE the phone with the little remaining power the battery has. It is best that you put the battery in the phone and turn off the phone and change for minimum of 5-6 hours.
The 1st charge for the battery is very important for lithium ion battery. Leaving the phone off will give the full maximize charge the battery can take. Normal when phone shows charge complete by integrator light or on the screen means its 95% complete. To complete the 100% charge you need additional 1-2 hours after the full charge integrator show. Having the phone off also help keep the charge. A phone that is on and charging will never get that 100% charge because there is alway a little battery being drained just because the phone is one even if its plugged in to a charger.
If you see your battery is not giving the same performance what it use to. You can try this method at least 3-4 times for 1 week and follow up every other month. Meaning turn the phone off and charge it every night. It is best if you can drain the battery to 15% or less before charging the phone.

nuc70st said:
Tips: How to Make Your Cell Phone Battery Last Longer when you need it the most:
1. Always try to drain your battery or wait till its 15% or below then charge your phone. Its very important to turn the phone off before you plug it to charge. This help maximizing your battery charge.
2. Stop searching for a signal. When you are in an area with poor or no signal, your phone will constantly look for a better connection, and will use up all your power doing so.
3. Switch off the vibrate function on your phone, and use just the ring tone instead.
4. Turn off your phone's back light.
5. Avoid using unnecessary features. If you know it will be a while before your phone’s next charge, don’t use the camera or connect to the Internet. Flash photography can drain your battery especially quickly.
6. Keep calls short. This is obvious, but how many times have you heard someone on their mobile phone say, "I think my battery’s dying," and then continue their conversation for several minutes? Sometimes, the dying battery is just an excuse to get off the phone (and a good one, at that), but if you really need to conserve the battery, limit your talk time.
7. Turn off Bluetooth. It will drain your battery very quickly.
8. Same goes for WIFI, GPS, and infrared capabilities, if your phone has these features built in. Keep them off; save more power.
9. Use GSM - Using your phone in 3G / Dual Mode will drain the battery quicker than if you just use GSM mode - have a look at your phones spec and you'll see it will quote two different battery life times - normally 50% more for pure GSM use.
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10. Keep the phone off, it'll not drain the battery at all!

So one person says don't let it drop down low very often, the next person says let it drop to 15% all the time...
Personally I've heard not to let it drop low more often these days. The old 'let it decharge regularly' was talked about a lot 4 or 5 years ago... no?

nuc70st said:
Tips: How to Make Your Cell Phone Battery Last Longer when you need it the most:
1. Always try to drain your battery or wait till its 15% or below then charge your phone. Its very important to turn the phone off before you plug it to charge. This help maximizing your battery charge.
2. Stop searching for a signal. When you are in an area with poor or no signal, your phone will constantly look for a better connection, and will use up all your power doing so.
3. Switch off the vibrate function on your phone, and use just the ring tone instead.
4. Turn off your phone's back light.
5. Avoid using unnecessary features. If you know it will be a while before your phone’s next charge, don’t use the camera or connect to the Internet. Flash photography can drain your battery especially quickly.
6. Keep calls short. This is obvious, but how many times have you heard someone on their mobile phone say, "I think my battery’s dying," and then continue their conversation for several minutes? Sometimes, the dying battery is just an excuse to get off the phone (and a good one, at that), but if you really need to conserve the battery, limit your talk time.
7. Turn off Bluetooth. It will drain your battery very quickly.
8. Same goes for WIFI, GPS, and infrared capabilities, if your phone has these features built in. Keep them off; save more power.
9. Use GSM - Using your phone in 3G / Dual Mode will drain the battery quicker than if you just use GSM mode - have a look at your phones spec and you'll see it will quote two different battery life times - normally 50% more for pure GSM use.
Very Important:
Anyone purchase a new phone. Its best DO NOT USE the phone with the little remaining power the battery has. It is best that you put the battery in the phone and turn off the phone and change for minimum of 5-6 hours.
The 1st charge for the battery is very important for lithium ion battery. Leaving the phone off will give the full maximize charge the battery can take. Normal when phone shows charge complete by integrator light or on the screen means its 95% complete. To complete the 100% charge you need additional 1-2 hours after the full charge integrator show. Having the phone off also help keep the charge. A phone that is on and charging will never get that 100% charge because there is alway a little battery being drained just because the phone is one even if its plugged in to a charger.
If you see your battery is not giving the same performance what it use to. You can try this method at least 3-4 times for 1 week and follow up every other month. Meaning turn the phone off and charge it every night. It is best if you can drain the battery to 15% or less before charging the phone.
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I think you didn't understand a LI-ION battery!!!
1. completely false
2. I've a mobilephone also I wan't to use it!!!
3. Maybe... Have you tested it with a ampere meter?
4. A black display is always a good idea!
5. Why not buying a Nokia 3210 ?
6. Better: Don't use it for call.
7. Correct! (If you don't use a headset)
8. See Pt. 5
9. See Pt. 5
A few facts:
- a new lithium-ion pack does not need cycling through charging and discharging
- Limit the time at which the battery stays at 4.20/cell. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures.
- 3.92V/cell is the best upper voltage threshold for cobalt-based lithium-ion
- The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days.
Whole article on: batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm (by Cadex Electronic Inc.)

jahmann82 said:
I think you didn't understand a LI-ION battery!!!
1. completely false
2. I've a mobilephone also I wan't to use it!!!
3. Maybe... Have you tested it with a ampere meter?
4. A black display is always a good idea!
5. Why not buying a Nokia 3210 ?
6. Better: Don't use it for call.
7. Correct! (If you don't use a headset)
8. See Pt. 5
9. See Pt. 5
A few facts:
- a new lithium-ion pack does not need cycling through charging and discharging
- Limit the time at which the battery stays at 4.20/cell. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures.
- 3.92V/cell is the best upper voltage threshold for cobalt-based lithium-ion
- The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days.
Whole article on: batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm (by Cadex Electronic Inc.)
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I second this as well. The tips given by nuc70st is only applicable in the old days with nickel based batteries (Ni-cd and Ni-MH), which for the past 5 years mobile phones have in general stopped using and have shifted to lithium varieties. Nickel Cadium and a smaller extent Nickel Metal Hydride suffer from "memory effect" so it was important to deep cycle the batteries to maintain its capacity.
Lithium batteries in contrast should be treated in the opposite. You should keep it charged up whenever possible, and fast discharging (draining its charge as fast as possible) actually does more harm than good. Most mobile phones don't discharge it fast enough for it to be problem, but plugging a lithium battery in a purpose made discharger is still a no-no.

I dont know if anybody else can try this with their N1 but I have recently noticed that when my battery does its initial.. drop to 95% before you can wonder what happened, I can charge it with the phone on and the green light stays on, implying that the phone is fully charged.
Then I turn the phone off and charge it, and the red light quickly comes on and allows another hour? of charging before the green light will re-appear.
I think i'll be trying leaving my phone on and on charge overnight and then turning it off while I get ready in the morning and don't necessarily need it.

The green light comes on before the battery is fully charged

AndyCr15 said:
So one person says don't let it drop down low very often, the next person says let it drop to 15% all the time...
Personally I've heard not to let it drop low more often these days. The old 'let it decharge regularly' was talked about a lot 4 or 5 years ago... no?
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I'm right and the other guy is dead wrong. Deep cycling was better for nickel metal hydride batteries, because it helped delay the memory effect.
No such issue for Li-ion batteries, plus charging makes Li-ion batteries HOT, which isn't particularly good for the battery. So numerous charges leads to less exposure to prolonged heating.

nuc70st said:
Tips: How to Make Your Cell Phone Battery Last Longer when you need it the most:
1. Always try to drain your battery or wait till its 15% or below then charge your phone. Its very important to turn the phone off before you plug it to charge. This help maximizing your battery charge.
2. Stop searching for a signal. When you are in an area with poor or no signal, your phone will constantly look for a better connection, and will use up all your power doing so.
3. Switch off the vibrate function on your phone, and use just the ring tone instead.
4. Turn off your phone's back light.
5. Avoid using unnecessary features. If you know it will be a while before your phone’s next charge, don’t use the camera or connect to the Internet. Flash photography can drain your battery especially quickly.
6. Keep calls short. This is obvious, but how many times have you heard someone on their mobile phone say, "I think my battery’s dying," and then continue their conversation for several minutes? Sometimes, the dying battery is just an excuse to get off the phone (and a good one, at that), but if you really need to conserve the battery, limit your talk time.
7. Turn off Bluetooth. It will drain your battery very quickly.
8. Same goes for WIFI, GPS, and infrared capabilities, if your phone has these features built in. Keep them off; save more power.
9. Use GSM - Using your phone in 3G / Dual Mode will drain the battery quicker than if you just use GSM mode - have a look at your phones spec and you'll see it will quote two different battery life times - normally 50% more for pure GSM use.
all very good tips, but its just funny that to save battery life we cant use ours phones as they where intended for us to use them. I need dilithium crystals.
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mikesm1234 said:
all very good tips
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Oh dear. Have you read this thread?
No, they are not good tips...

Rusty! said:
The green light comes on before the battery is fully charged
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I noticed that just last night! Are you supposed to keep charging it until its 100% or stop it from charging when the green light turns on?
Cheers,
M

battery not fully charging

I got got the phone the day it came out and i use battstatt widget and i realized that the battery never fully charges...it always at 99%..and when i unplug it it drops done to like 95% right away..anyone else having this problem??

I haven't noticed it on mine, but coming from the Droid Incredible, I'm a little familiar with battery charging problems. Try this. Charge the battery, with the phone on, until it shows as fully charged. Then, unplug it, shut the phone off, and plug it back in, and see if it continues to charge. With the Incredible, it will charge for another hour before it hits the full mark.

Yes, I am having the same "issue" and it is not resolved with "bump charging" (turning off the phone, charging until full, pulling out plug, plugging back in...repeating several times).
However, the battery life is stellar compared to the Incredible.

I did notice that right after unplugging mine this morning, my battery widget showed it at 98% right away. I'll have to keep an eye on that, and see how that behavior progresses. But I must say, it seems to be doing quite well, even with what I consider heavy use (i.e. playing with it constantly throughout the day, as I'm tweaking it, installing more apps, etc.). I'll have to see once my work week gets going, since I have work email push-syncing to this thing via TouchDown, but so far it looks like I won't have a problem getting through a whole day with it with my normal use.

My battery is fully charging, but the phone seems to stop and start charging, rather than trickle charge. Screenshot from juiceplotter is attached.
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Am I missing something here? Why is there no "battery life" data under the "about phone" settings menu on this phone? I see use broken down by source and an indicator of whether it's charging or not, but no percentage remaining, voltage or temperature data like on other android devices. What gives? Do I HAVE to install an app to get this info on the fascinate?
ie. why doesn't this show up on the phone? http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2236/dscn0042r.jpg

Yes I've been noticing too that the battery indicator can be very off, I've been watching it very closely. Cases such as yours where it thinks its more full than it really is, and cases where the indicator even JUMPS up. Once the battery thinks it's full, it will not charge further leaving you undercharged all the time.
So far I've got I think I've got it working, and have yet to notice any issues. I previously noticed that the battery indicator seems to be more accurate when the phone is off. So what I did is: I completely discharged the phone, then fully charged the phone without turning on the phone. Now been using it, haven't had any obvious issues with faulty battery indicator and I really feel that it's charging completely now. On a sidenote, I think charging with a laptop can throw it off, so always try to use the AC adapter. Hope it works for you too if you give it a try.

travisgreen said:
My battery is fully charging, but the phone seems to stop and start charging, rather than trickle charge. Screenshot from juiceplotter is attached.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
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I get the same from juice plotter. I have read certain battery types should not be continually charged after they reach 100%. This appears to be a safe guard.
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[HOW TO] Fix Battery Life: Ultimate guide (calibrate + post#2 -FIXES) UPDATED 25Aug

Standart disclaimer: I am not responsible if you break things by following this guide, though I will be genuinely surprised if you do.
Credits: This fix is a combination of battery management techniques discussed in the Atrix forums + a technique that I originally found in a Milestone forum (I didn't invent it, but I am too lazy to search who originally posted it ).
This worked in fixing the problem for me (the same problem that I see many others are writing about on the forums), but I can't guarantee it will work for you.
Who should use this? (aka your battery problem symptoms are
1. Battery life on 2.3.4 is significantly worse for you than before.
2. Battery stats are jumping and showing inconsistent information.
3. Your phone loses 30%-60% just by sitting there overnight.
4. Phone idle draining 30%-60% of battery just by sitting there overnight.
5. After flashing a couple of roms, your battery stats got messed up and the phone thinks it's at 100% charge while it's not.
I personally started having battery problems after flashing a couple of roms, applying 1% battery mod and despite flashing jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix.
When I went to bed with a 100% charge, I would wake up to a 50% charge, with Phone Idle process showing up as massacring the battery. The steps below successfully fixed the problem for me.
Prerequisites:
1. Atrix on one of the rooted 2.3.4 roms (ideally,- deodexed and with unlocked CWM)
2. Wall Charger
3. jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (put it on your SD card you will need it later!) I have also attached it to this post.
4. Battery Calibration app from the market
5. Watchdog Lite or Full from the market
Instructions:
It's best to complete this procedure in the evening before going to bed, so you can leave it at 100% overnight and check in the morning if the drainage issue is fixed!!!
The whole procedure along with recalibration might take up to 5-6 hours!
1. Take the case off your Atrix (one of the latter steps involves taking the battery out from the phone while it's plugged in. Make sure your case won't stand in the way.)
2. Install Battery Calibration app from the market
3. Plug in your Atrix to charge while it's on, wait till it gets to a 100%
4. When the charge is 100%, open the BatteryCalibration app and lookup what the charge is in MV while at 100%. (Explanatory pic, needed number circled in red). Write it down.
My Atrix was showing ~3400MV while at 100%, which is definitely not the maximum capacity.
5. Discharge your Atrix completely until it shuts off.
A good way of doing this quickly is by turning on wifi, and a video player.
6. Without turning on the phone plug it into a wall charger and let it get to 100%
7. When it's at 100%, without unplugging it from the wall charger, take off the battery cover, and take the battery out.
Your phone will "reboot" and show a Missing Battery icon.
8. Without unplugging the phone from the wall charger or turning it on, put the battery back in and wait until the phone recognizes the battery.
9. Your battery should now be recognized by the phone, and showing a charge % significantly lower than 100%.
Mine showed only 5%. Back when I used a Milestone, it usually showed 60% after doing this.
10. Let it sit there charging for 2-3 hours.
My phone wouldn't charge past 10%, but yours might. The numbers don't matter much as the phone is definitely getting additional charge that could have been lost while flashing ROMs, etc.
11. After 2-3 hours, turn the phone on while holding the volume down button and get into CWM.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
12. Install jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (even if you had it installed before), do not reboot yet.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
13. Wipe battery stats in CWM, reboot.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
14. When the phone turns on, go into BatteryCalibration app again and look up your MV numbers
- if you were like me, they should be significantly higher than before. After this whole process I had 4200MV at 100%, comparing to 3400MV before calibration.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
15. Before going to sleep - Install Watchdog from the market. Go into it's preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20%, check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20% as well.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
16. Make sure your wifi and data connections are off. Now finally unplug the phone from the charger.
Go to bed, let your phone sleep too.
17. Success! Next morning check where your battery % is at and if you followed the instructions correctly / got lucky like me, your battery life should be 90% or more.
I went to bed with 98% and woke up to 94%. So, I consider this mission a success.
(Your general battery capacity should have increased, even if something still was draining the battery, you will be able to find the infringing process in WatchDog with the settings we've set up in step 15 )
That's all folks! Please report your success / lack of such here. Also, feel free to ask questions, and I along with other users with answer them according to our ability.
I will later add a section on "good practices for battery usage" with tips and tricks.
Cheers!
Attached are screenshots of my results after calibration: This was under moderate usage. Pretty damn good if you ask me.

Post-calibration methods of improving Battery Life
Updated: Post#2 will explain how to solve battery drainage problems when recalibration wasn't enough. It will also explain how battery reporting works, common practices, tips, tricks, etc.
Battery Tips / Tricks / Common Practices
Important things to know:
1. It's important to understand how battery indicator on Android works and how Android manages / reports your battery life. Please read this article:
Your Smartphone’s Battery Gauge is Lying to You (and it’s not such a bad thing)
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
2. Li-ion batteries used in modern smartphones don't have "charge memory". Partial charges won't hurt the battery (e.g. charging from 60% to 80% or from 10% to 50% etc). Feel free to give your phone small charges whenever you have time and need the phone to last longer.
3. Smartphone batteries don't like to be completely discharged or to be kept at 100% capacity for extended periods of time (this actually damages batteries over time). But worry not, the battery software prevents this from happening for you. That's why some of your phones never get to 100% or drop from 100% to 90% minutes after you disconnct the phone from a charger.
4. All batteries gradually lose a small percentage of their capacity after a certain amount of charge cycles. It's a natural part of life. It's always nice to have a spare battery or to purchase a replacement when your current battery isn't to the task anymore.
5. Don't pay much attention to the battery %, just use your phones. I know it's very tempting to track your battery usage every 15 minutes and try to find problems. Been there myself. Thing is, if you do this, you might start thinking you have problems, when you don't have any.
Bottom line - just try to use your phone and not mess with the battery unless problems become really apparent.
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Other proven ways to improve Battery Life
If you have re-calibrated to a full capacity (4200mv) but your battery still drains terribly - follow these steps to pin point the problem.
1. Find which app / process is draining the battery.
If you get lucky, the infringing app will show up directly under the stock "Battery Usage" statistics. However, in most cases "Battery Usage" isn't very informative. Most people report that they only see "Phone Idle" consuming most of the battery without much insight into the details.
Things to do:
- install Watchdog, go to preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20% (or even lower if it's not enough), check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20%(or even lower if it's not enough) as well. Run it for a couple of days.
If you start getting frequent Watchdog notifications about a certain app breaching the threshold - uninstall it, find an alternative.
- install BetterBatteryStats from here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 run it for a couple of days and monitor apps / processes that are using up more wakelocks than they should.
Once you find the infringing app - uninstall it, if it's a process - find out if it's safe to stop / freeze before doing anything.
2. Freeze bloatware aka "stop the problem before it becomes a problem."
Unless you are running CM7, your rom is based on stock 2.3.4 and still has blur in it. Blur apps and processes might be running without you even using them and sucking out precious batter life while they are at it.
Things to do:
- Get TitaniumBackup, freeze all bloatware that is mentioned as "safe" in this thread -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182663
Use your phone for a couple of days afterwards and watch for improvements.
If these software tweaks aren't enough, the problem might be with your system setup. Go through these steps which should hopefully fix your setup in favor of awesome battery life:
3. Flash a custom kernel, set up battery saving profiles.
Many people have reported success with this step. Custom kernels are not just for overclocking. A custom kernel with smart profiles will definitely give definitely extend your phones operating life during the day.
Things to do:
- Get a custom kernel., the popular choice on here seems to be faux'es kernel, so I recommend it -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
Get one of the battery saving SetCpu profiles along with it. Basically, a good battery saving profile looks something like this:
- absolute minimum CPU clock with screen off (something like 275 Mhz)
- lowering CPU clock with temperature > 50C (something like ~800Mhz)
- lowering CPU clock when battery < 30% (something like ~800Mhz)
Many people reported success in using such profile for lowering "Phone Idle" drain.
4. Flash a different radio.
WARNING: Be extremely careful with this. Flashing a wrong radio is the right way to hard brick your phone.
Although some people are reporting to have fixed battery drainage by trying out a different radio, I seriously wouldn't recommend going on a flashing spree unless you know what you are doing.
My advice here: flash the latest 2.3.4 for your carrier if you haven't yet. From there on, experiment at your own risk.
5. Disable Data and Wifi when idle either manually or with an app."
I seriously get surprised every time someone says they have a horrible battery life, when they keep an internet connection on at all times. Constant data always = battery drain.
Things to do:
- use apps like Green Power to disable data / wifi for you when you are not using it
- learn to turn off your internet connection manually
6. If all else fails - start over from scratch (read: clean install a rom).
I've heard reports of people getting better life with Froyo than GB, or that a specific custom ROM solved their problem for them. A million dollar question: if it works for you, why not use it?
Things to do:
- try a ROM without blur, like CM7
- try Ninja Speed Freak (developer and many users reported great battery life)
- if battery life is your top concern - try Froyo
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Many thanks! Have pass about three days reading about the battery issues/solutions, and I was getting confused by so many info! Will try it tonight!
PS: Does the jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix works for the Orange 2.3.4 ?

eklam said:
Many thanks! Have pass about three days reading about the battery issues/solutions, and I was getting confused by so many info! Will try it tonight!
PS: Does the jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix works for the Orange 2.3.4 ?
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Are you using stock Orange 2.3.4 rom?
If yes, your Rom might not have the battery jumping problem. You can still use this guide without the battery fix to recalibrate.
Let's wait for someone with Orange 2.3.4 to confirm if jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix can be used or not.

Indeed, I have not the battery jump issue, but I'm exprimenting some weird behavior...
like when I restart the phone, it shows about 10% higher than before. I tried this multiples times yesterday. When it was about 40%, it starts to drop suddenly, 'till it got to 18% and get back to normal decrease to 4%, 2~3 hours later...
See the images attached, the red circles are the times I rebooted it and the blue arrow is when it drops suddenly...

Question on step 4. To confirm, we shouldn't click on anything in BatteryCalibration, all that needs to be done is take note on the MV number, correct?

eklam said:
Indeed, I have not the battery jump issue, but I'm exprimenting some weird behavior...
like when I restart the phone, it shows about 10% higher than before. I tried this multiples times yesterday. When it was about 40%, it starts to drop suddenly, 'till it got to 18% and get back to normal decrease to 4%, 2~3 hours later...
See the images attached, the red circles are the times I rebooted it and the blue arrow is when it drops suddenly...
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Did it only start doing this on 2.3.4 or you haven't checked before? Anyway, I would do the calibration to see if it changes anything.
coleburns said:
Question on step 4. To confirm, we shouldn't click on anything BatteryCalibration, all that needs to be done is take note on the MV number, correct?
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No clicking in step 4. Just write down or remember the MV number.

Yes it just starts when updating to 2.3.4... In the first days I got the impression of lower battery level, so reading the forums I saw the restart/level change problem, and tested it

eklam said:
Yes it just starts when updating to 2.3.4... In the first days I got the impression of lower battery level, so reading the forums I saw the restart/level change problem, and tested it
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You probably updated to 2.3.4 while not at 100% battery level, and it messed up your battery stat. So, yes, do all the steps in this guide except for jug6ernaut's battery fix part.

thanks, ill give this a shot....again.....tonight and hopefully it will fix my issue.

Screenshots of results added to post 1

Download link seems to be down...just errors out when trying to download.
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jarsh92 said:
Download link seems to be down...just errors out when trying to download.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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Which download link? CMW_Jug6_FIXv2.zip?

I'm on a rooted stock GB and I'm having the problem where the battery usage stats are inaccurate and won't got below 90% after using it all day. This all started after I used Battery Calibration. Do you think that this would help correct the problem?
Edit: Also, would I need to complete all of the steps including the CWM part? I haven't flashed any roms yet, so I don't know if this would be necessary.

ThickG said:
I'm on a rooted stock GB and I'm having the problem where the battery usage stats are inaccurate and won't got below 90% after using it all day. This all started after I used Battery Calibration. Do you think that this would help correct the problem?
Edit: Also, would I need to complete all of the steps including the CWM part? I haven't flashed any roms yet, so I don't know if this would be necessary.
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Seems like you used Battery Calibration while not at 100% charge and your battery stats got messed up.
The reason I recommend using CWM is because the battery stats file is created on each boot. So, with my instructions you can charge the phone to 100% while it's off and wipe the messed up stats before it boots.
You can try using my instructions, without the CWM part, except you need to wipe your battery stats with Battery Calibration app after step 4.

lol i left pandora on since this morning and its only at 67%. ugh, when i wanna force drain the battery it goes slow as hell but when i wanna conserve battery live for usage it drains quick. hahaha.

I just flashed navalynt's πCrust rom fully charged, cleared stats through cwm, booted and now i'm close to 3days.

dictoresno said:
lol i left pandora on since this morning and its only at 67%. ugh, when i wanna force drain the battery it goes slow as hell but when i wanna conserve battery live for usage it drains quick. hahaha.
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lol yes. I used video playback to drain mine. But if it's really a PITA, you can always just leave it till tomorrow to discharge naturally.
Jonous said:
I just flashed navalynt's πCrust rom fully charged, cleared stats through cwm, booted and now i'm close to 3days.
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Yep, that's why flashing only when at 100% charge always pays off.

I get the same results by booting to CWM, wiping battery stats, rebooting, starting Battery Calibration, plugging phone into wall charger, charging to 100% (4197mv for me), and then calibrating with Battery Calibration. I start this process at any battery percentage, and have been doing this for a long time now. I have never had to deplete my battery until my phone shuts off, and get great battery life.
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CaelanT said:
I get the same results by booting to CWM, wiping battery stats, rebooting, starting Battery Calibration, plugging phone into wall charger, charging to 100% (4197mv for me), and then calibrating with Battery Calibration. I start this process at any battery percentage, and have been doing this for a long time now. I have never had to deplete my battery until my phone shuts off, and get great battery life.
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After the calibration I had 4200mv, so it seems like you are doing things right in regards to the battery.
"Taking the battery out and putting it back in" trick works wonders though in restoring battery life to maximum state (if you had it decrease for some reason). I've tested it multiple times even back when I had the Milestone.

Battery display inaccuracy

This happens when battery level is below like 30% on my HTC Evo. I am using a customized ROM (Supersense). Whenever the battery reaches 30% remaining, it doesn't drop. However, if I use the phone for a while and restart it, the battery shows only 10%. Clearly, some of the battery management program does not work properly. Is it a bug related to battery itself (hardware) or ROM (software)? Anyway to fix this?

You could try charging your phone up fully then go into recovery and delete the battery stats(Under Advanced in CWM), unplug your phone and use it until it discharges fully and shuts off. Finally, recharge the phone fully again once it has died. I believe this will calibrate the software that monitors your battery or something like that. You can find more specific instructions on the net if you want. Some people like to bump charge and everything else to try to get it perfect but I never found the need to go to that extreme.

Evo_Shift said:
You could try charging your phone up fully then go into recovery and delete the battery stats(Under Advanced in CWM), unplug your phone and use it until it discharges fully and shuts off. Finally, recharge the phone fully again once it has died. I believe this will calibrate the software that monitors your battery or something like that. You can find more specific instructions on the net if you want. Some people like to bump charge and everything else to try to get it perfect but I never found the need to go to that extreme.
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Download "battery left" from the market and it will recalibrate your battery. Also yes, I would reset battery stats as well but battery left will actually recalibrate it. Battery stats is how long the phone has been on, what's using the most battery, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Just boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.

I had this problem once.
All I did was download "Battery Left" as VICODAN said and I flashed this zip that I got from somewhere on this site but I forget where. I had to change the updater-script and the binary but either way it works on our Shift. Charge to 100% and flash this, then with Battery Left install use the phone till it dies and after that, you should be golden.

battery calibration
U can try the app battery calibration also in the market. If you're rooted.
*Since we're talking about batteries.
I wish our phones would beep or set off an alarm when charged to 100%.
I was keeping battery calibration just for that, it has that option but only worked maybe 1 out of 20 times the alarm went off.

trsix said:
U can try the app battery calibration also in the market. If you're rooted.
*Since we're talking about batteries.
I wish our phones would beep or set off an alarm when charged to 100%.
I was keeping battery calibration just for that, it has that option but only worked maybe 1 out of 20 times the alarm went off.
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Love the app, so when i got to sleep or I am going to calibrate, I just open the calibration app throw it on charge, it beeps I hit calibrate unplug and done. That way I don't have to open the app when It's 100% or with early morning fuzzy eyes and fingers that don't work right
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ctzw said:
This happens when battery level is below like 30% on my HTC Evo. I am using a customized ROM (Supersense). Whenever the battery reaches 30% remaining, it doesn't drop. However, if I use the phone for a while and restart it, the battery shows only 10%. Clearly, some of the battery management program does not work properly. Is it a bug related to battery itself (hardware) or ROM (software)? Anyway to fix this?
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Wrong forum...you state that you have a Evo, this forum is for Evo Shift.
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PROPER battery calibration... is getting on my nerves :/

So, I am using MIUI 2.1.12 with LorDModUE 8.6 CFS 2WCR kernel.
I have installed 4EXT Recovery Controller and CurrentWidget.
With CurrentWidget, I monitored the battery while charging until it reached 0mA (which means the battery is as full as it can get).
With 4EXT Recovery Controller I removed the batterystats.bin file.
I drained the phone until it shut itself down. Then I charged it (without powering it on) until it was full (LED was green).
I power on the phone... 99% battery.
I plug in the charger... it says 26mA (which means it would reach 0mA as in full charge in another 20-30 minutes).
WHAT THE HELL?!
This never happened while I was using the default CM kernel included in MIUI. Only happened with Tiamat and LordMod.
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Seriously, guys, what is the best way to calibrate the battery?! Perhaps I should not have let it shut itself down, but plug the charger when the phone was at 1% (which lasted for another 20-30 minutes, by the way)?!

if I don't remember it wrong the LED turns green at 90%.

afair the battery doesn't get charged during booting. which means that you probably lost the 1% during boot.

I also used the same method and got it calibrated correctly
but is their any other way too ?

monki79 said:
if I don't remember it wrong the LED turns green at 90%.
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The LED turns green on AOSP ROMs at 90%, when the phone is ON, as far as I know. When it is OFF, it works fine (goes green at 100%).
I want to hear from the developers / those that know how these codes work and stuff... Cause I don't want to look at my phone how the percentage goes down so fast, then, when it reaches 10%, I can play Pocket Legends for another 20 full minutes -.-

Formhault said:
With CurrentWidget, I monitored the battery while charging until it reached 0mA (which means the battery is as full as it can get).
With 4EXT Recovery Controller I removed the batterystats.bin file.
I drained the phone until it shut itself down. Then I charged it (without powering it on) until it was full (LED was green).
I power on the phone... 99% battery.
I plug in the charger... it says 26mA (which means it would reach 0mA as in full charge in another 20-30 minutes).
WHAT THE HELL?!
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The battery doesn't charge to full capacity first time around. When I used to calibrate the battery I would charge until it was drawing 0mA, then reboot; it would be drawing about 26mA, so I'd charge to 0mA again and reboot; it would now be drawing about 15mA, so I'd carry on charging to 0mA, reboot, repeat, repeat and repeat until it eventually continued to draw 0mA after a reboot. Then I'd delete the batterystats.bin file.
As one of Google's engineers says, deleting your battery stats isn't going to improve your battery life. I haven't done any of that for a long time now and I've noticed precisely no difference (except for the extra time I've gained by not having to wait for it to finally charge up to full capacity).

hopscotchjunkie said:
The battery doesn't charge to full capacity first time around. When I used to calibrate the battery I would charge until it was drawing 0mA, then reboot; it would be drawing about 26mA, so I'd charge to 0mA again and reboot; it would now be drawing about 15mA, so I'd carry on charging to 0mA, reboot, repeat, repeat and repeat until it eventually continued to draw 0mA after a reboot. Then I'd delete the batterystats.bin file.
As one of Google's engineers says, deleting your battery stats isn't going to improve your battery life. I haven't done any of that for a long time now and I've noticed precisely no difference (except for the extra time I've gained by not having to wait for it to finally charge up to full capacity).
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I know about Google's statement.
The battery would drain fast, then, when it reaches 1% or 5%, you would be able to use your phone like it had 30%. Just that it shows the values wrong. Calibrating the battery should fix that...
Anyway... I'm not going to struggle any further.

I'll tell what I've done;
- I have installed Battery Balibration app and CurrentWidget,
- Waited battery charging till reached 0ma,
- Removed battery stats and restarted,
- Then waited to drain battery and shut-down itself,
- I connected USB charger to PC and TURN ON THE PHONE !!
- Again waited battery to reach 0 ma,
- Then plugged off and monitored that current widget shows the range btw 3-10 !!
I don't know exactly if it helps but, maybe you should turn on your DHD while carging..
For further instructions you may qant to check this topic;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016
Formhault said:
So, I am using MIUI 2.1.12 with LorDModUE 8.6 CFS 2WCR kernel.
I have installed 4EXT Recovery Controller and CurrentWidget.
With CurrentWidget, I monitored the battery while charging until it reached 0mA (which means the battery is as full as it can get).
With 4EXT Recovery Controller I removed the batterystats.bin file.
I drained the phone until it shut itself down. Then I charged it (without powering it on) until it was full (LED was green).
I power on the phone... 99% battery.
I plug in the charger... it says 26mA (which means it would reach 0mA as in full charge in another 20-30 minutes).
WHAT THE HELL?!
This never happened while I was using the default CM kernel included in MIUI. Only happened with Tiamat and LordMod.
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Seriously, guys, what is the best way to calibrate the battery?! Perhaps I should not have let it shut itself down, but plug the charger when the phone was at 1% (which lasted for another 20-30 minutes, by the way)?!
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Theres a better alternative, use the battery calibration app in the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
It's always worked a charm for me.

knp3385 said:
Theres a better alternative, use the battery calibration app in the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
It's always worked a charm for me.
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Right, with Battery Calibration i have solved my problem with battery, now i can use all day without charging.

Sorry if my question is a silly one...
what's the point in calibrating your battery? I mean... except for the stats (and I guess, the percentage in the bar), do you improve your battery life by calibrating it?

Duwie_80 said:
Sorry if my question is a silly one...
what's the point in calibrating your battery? I mean... except for the stats (and I guess, the percentage in the bar), do you improve your battery life by calibrating it?
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Some says it's irrelevant, calibrating it's just an illusion
But did calibrate my battery and my battery life is improved too terrific !!

Duwie_80 said:
Sorry if my question is a silly one...
what's the point in calibrating your battery? I mean... except for the stats (and I guess, the percentage in the bar), do you improve your battery life by calibrating it?
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fremce said:
Some says it's irrelevant, calibrating it's just an illusion
But did calibrate my battery and my battery life is improved too terrific !!
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I don't really know. It would be silly for the Android system to display the battery percentage (up there, in the status bar) by reading the batterystats.bin.
My phone's battery level drops somewhat fast, then, when it would reach 30% or so, it doesn't drop as fast. Also, at times, when I reach 10%, 5% or even 1%, I am still able to play an intensive game like Pocket Legends for an extended ammount of time (30 minutes, for example). Pocket Legends is CPU/GPU intensive and it also requires an active Internet connection, so I'd say it's pretty power hungry.
I don't really get the entire purpose of calibration. I have done it and I can't seem to notice any difference.
I'm going to do it again, now, because I switched to a Sense ROM (RunnyDrOiD). I'll monitor the battery with Battery Monitor Pro. When it reaches +0mA, I'll reboot and so forth so forth until it's drawing 0mA, although I doubt I'll resist that much time, so I'll just delete the batterystats.bin after a few reboots, when it reachs 0mA.

fremce said:
Some says it's irrelevant, calibrating it's just an illusion
But did calibrate my battery and my battery life is improved too terrific !!
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If everybody knew the meaning of the word "calibration" then nobody would talk such nonsense.
Calibration improves the accuracy of the percentage shown!
The illusion is that you improve your battery life with it....

Dlog said:
If everybody knew the meaning of the word "calibration" then nobody would talk such nonsense.
Calibration improves the accuracy of the percentage shown!
The illusion is that you improve your battery life with it....
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As I said... calibrating the battery may fix the "problem" where once you reach 1% / 5% you can use your phone like it still had ~20%.

I'm gone test it too...

Hi there people, I didn't find any battery thread similar to what I'm going to say so I'll spam a little bit
I've just found as I was fooling around this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PowerSki...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item20c1a1c8ad
It suppose to be a silicon case with a battery build in(1500mah ..not bad), I don't know the dimensions but I just someone might think it as a solution to our 1230mah small battery(with this you have a total of 1730mah which is plenty)
P.S. To mods.. feel free to delete my post, I just wanted to inform the people about a solution that might be handy

evronetwork said:
Hi there people, I didn't find any battery thread similar to what I'm going to say so I'll spam a little bit
I've just found as I was fooling around this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PowerSki...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item20c1a1c8ad
It suppose to be a silicon case with a battery build in(1500mah ..not bad), I don't know the dimensions but I just someone might think it as a solution to our 1230mah small battery(with this you have a total of 1730mah which is plenty)
P.S. To mods.. feel free to delete my post, I just wanted to inform the people about a solution that might be handy
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https://www.google.com/search?q=xda+powerskin+desire+hd
first link....