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Legend and froyo

Hallo! i have heard allot of rumours that legend won't be getting froyo
is it true?

like you said they are rumours.
just wait. think there will soon be more info from htc when the first 2.2 phones are released.

the rumours are indeed very iffy

I honestly just posted an entire rant last night about this, allow me to quote myself...
kylecore said:
Well I've heard multiple times before this that customer service reps from htc have also confirmed the update to froyo for the legend. The most recent being an email from a customer service rep stating that the user fear not about his flash playing troubles because android 2.2 and incidentally flash 10.1 would be released for the htc legend within the next 2 weeks.
Follow this up by the recent release of flash 10.1 for android 2.2 and the release of the android 2.2 source code being released today the statement of "within the next 2 weeks" seem to be exactly what is happening. Not only is android 2.2 pretty much here but will be available sooner rather then later. To add further flame to the fire htc repeatedly said android 2.2 will be supported by almost all 2010 devices and with the desire being more widely available and more powerful it is more likely to be put in with definite android 2.2 compatible even though the desire and legend get almost always get updates at the same time.
The most likely reason the statement was pulled? Well it must simply be due to google not publishing the source code yet, thus letting people essentially know froyo is ready.
Htc most certainly can't pull the plug on 2.2 before google itself does. But! Now that it has published final froyo source code it is 99.9% done and is most likely waiting to be uploaded to the server.
My uneducated guess is that we'll see froyo on the legend by mid july at the latest.
Also not sure if anyone thought of this, but bell (and indirectly virgin mobile canada) are not stupid companies. They are introducing a new android phone and thus throwing massive amounts of ad $ and marketing into it, from both bell/virgin AND htc itself. Remember this is virgins FIRST android set and bells 4th or 5th, they would most likely have talked to htc to make sure the device is upgradeable to the newest android. They just started selling it, they aren't going to allow it to be out dated within the month its released! If the did it would be a waste on advertising and a waste of introducing a new phone.
That's just my 2 cents, but it seems very logical to me, how about you?
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Soo yeah that's my 2 cents, but it seems reasonable if you ask me.
Aaaand lastly, there's a guy currently working on porting froyo over and you can follow it at this thread in the forum, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709078

Just to throw some fuel in the fire, check out this link
The Flash Player 10.1 can be availed as a final production release for smartphones and tablets as soon as users can upgrade to Android 2.2 “Froyo”. Handsets which are anticipated to support “Froyo” and Flash Player 10.1 include Google Nexus One, HTC Evo, HTC Desire, HTC Incredible, Dell Streak, Samsung Galaxy S, DROID by Motorola, Motorola Milestone and more.
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Adobe didn't state HTC Legend on their supported devices list...could this mean no 2.2 for Legend? or Is HTC dumbing down 2.2 for Legend as they did with 2.1?
If 2.2 is dumbed down for Legend, it better have WiFi hotspot as a stock 2.2 rom would have, or I am going to be one pissed off long legged puerto rican!

Froyo aria source code release from htc.

Question is does that indicate att is going release there froyo update for thee aria? Sent from my Liberty using XDA App

Where do you see this?

Modders and ROM developers are about to bury themselves in source code today and will chug six packs of Red Bull to stay up late into the night hacking away. HTC has released their valuable Android 2.2 source code for the EVO 4G, DROID Incredible, Aria, and Wildfire today allowing programmers and enthusiasts to get their hands dirty with code.
This is a pretty standard thing, as the Android operating system is open source and anything developed in conjunction with it has to be made available to the public. What’s funny about this release of code is that HTC has basically preempted all carriers except for Sprint as the Aria, Incredible, and Wildfire have yet to see the “official” release of Android 2.2. This confirms that it is the carriers that have slowed down the upgrade process on their devices making options like rooting and modding so popular. Even with the slow down, this release shows that the carriers are getting ready for the “official” releases.
The release of the Android 2.2 source for HTC devices is going to prove to be an awesome edition to what modders have already gained from earlier ROM leaks. So, keep your eyes out for some new ROMs over at xda-developers and other modding sites as it is about to get crazy out there!
Via [Cyanogen, Phandroid]
Source [HTC]

aepowerlifter said:
Modders and ROM developers are about to bury themselves in source code today and will chug six packs of Red Bull to stay up late into the night hacking away. HTC has released their valuable Android 2.2 source code for the EVO 4G, DROID Incredible, Aria, and Wildfire today allowing programmers and enthusiasts to get their hands dirty with code.
This is a pretty standard thing, as the Android operating system is open source and anything developed in conjunction with it has to be made available to the public. What’s funny about this release of code is that HTC has basically preempted all carriers except for Sprint as the Aria, Incredible, and Wildfire have yet to see the “official” release of Android 2.2. This confirms that it is the carriers that have slowed down the upgrade process on their devices making options like rooting and modding so popular. Even with the slow down, this release shows that the carriers are getting ready for the “official” releases.
The release of the Android 2.2 source for HTC devices is going to prove to be an awesome edition to what modders have already gained from earlier ROM leaks. So, keep your eyes out for some new ROMs over at xda-developers and other modding sites as it is about to get crazy out there!
Via [Cyanogen, Phandroid]
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i saw this a while back...i was curious when we would start seeing some mods made from this...i wish i had the know how to develop this stuff id be all over it...perhaps someone on here is and there almost finished with it...i running the cm6 rom and its sweet just wish there was a better oc kernel that worked well with it

HTC has not and does not release "source code" for any of their ROMs, only the kernel sources which they are required to release. So far, kernel source released for the Aria is still behind the kernel source released for the Snapdragon processors that HTC used in it's 2.2 builds. Nothing new has been posted for the Aria for a while.

Ahe... I see not really much of a code monkey ..but i got you
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Well props on the froyo mod , using it right note..and thanks as well.
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Damnit.. Gingerbread (Android 2.3) releases next week

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/11/05/android-2-3-gingerbread-release-november-11/
I bought the Epic to be ahead of the trend... We dont even have 2.2 yet, but 2.3 is coming out.. Who knows when that will be released for the Epic!

june 18, 2011

I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.

EvanWasHere said:
I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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you mean honeycomb..lol..or icecream
anyways..google said that in the future there will be only 1 major release per year.

EvanWasHere said:
I upgrade phones every 6 months... so that doesnt work for me...
Plus, by that time, it will be Android 3.0 Chocolate Chip.
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6 month you won't get much major progress...from the rumors all the ual cores will be coming next summer anyways..
Either way chances are you won't see Gignerbread on a phone for at least 3 month or so unless its a development phone.

that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.

If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.

razorseal said:
that's some ****ty ass news...
I'm afraid samsung will drop support on these phones by then.
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No, that is some awesome inspiring news. The faster Gingerbread is released, the faster the Galaxy Tab gets gingerbread. The faster Galaxy Tab and other phones receive gingerbread, the faster it will be ported to our phone regardless of whether Samsung has official plans to port it or not.

vansmack said:
If the Nexus Two/S becomes available on Sprint (and with 4G), I'll happily dump the Epic to avoid this constant unnecessary hassle. The manufacturers and carriers are wrong, at least when it comes to me - I know what I want on a phone more than they do.
I've dealt with it on HTC and now Samsung, and I won't do it again.
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You probably wont need to. The drivers for the Nexus S will probably work with our hardware and that should make porting gingerbread to the other galaxy S phones a lot easier. With a little luck we might have a working gingerbread before some of the HTC phones.

People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.

jbadboy2007 said:
People are sooo negative about continued samsung support. If you are really APART of this community you have NOTHING to WORRY about. So unless you plan on staying stock quit complaining about froyo and gingerbread.
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iono if i got your statement right,,, but i'd rather have a stock build of android on my epic than one thats been made over by samsung or any company for that matter. i understand that android is open and therefore if a company wants to skin or whatever with it then that up to them. it would be nice if there was an option to where we could go the a companies site ie. samsung, htc, sony; and have an option to download a vanilla build of the current os that is out. and it dosent even have to be before they release their version of it. for example with froyo 2.2 ,,, once they start to push it out to us in the states, it would be cool if we could go to sammy's site and download an alternative vanilla build. of coarse companies might say that it will take away from the phone as far as features that they built into it or want to implement. but if im paying for a device that is 100% mine, i would atleast like to have some options with it sans root and flash.
my opinion

Its not Gingerbread, more like the source....

Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...

LOL
With all these tasty sounding android os names the last os update will be called Fat bastard lol. or weight watchers.

walord said:
Gingerbread being released on the The Nexus S is great news since the Nexus S is basically just another Galaxy S minus TW. Porting Gingerbread to the Galaxy S should be very easy...
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Wait, so for the 99 percent of us that doesn't even have Froyo yet you are inspired by Gingerbread being released? May I please borrow your rose glasses???

2.3 is coming soon, Nexus 2 will be the first phone to get it and it's not expected to come out for another month. They site says it's 2.3 sdk, and 2.2 sdk came out a month and a half before nexus one got the official update

HTC Evo getting gingerbread from today .Is desire z that worthless phone ?

I really can't believe HTC .... They are giving a phone which is about a year older than desire z sense update and we are still on waiting list ... Were desire z sales really that ****ty for them that they are punishing us for buying it ?
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+1 ... Yet another time we HTC owners feel fooked over by the company... that promises updates on updates.. I had the Tattoo... no update, and i've had the SE Xperia Mini Pro... no Update... HTC promised Desire Z update within Q1 of 2011.. and look where we are.. Curses! And how come they speak in the media about Unlocking and open up for rooting on NEWER models..? They do not mention to unlock the phones they just locked with the latest update.. Only newer... Tragic!

The evo was a huge flagship device with a bunch of "first" promises look at it from another point of view, HTC is keeping good on the "first idea"
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If you want to look at it from a Marketing angle. EVO 4G came before G2. So YES, they will update that before us G2 / Desire Z owners. Got to look at the line up of what came before G2/Desire Z, THEN you see how far down the waiting list we are.
-Kiyo

I don't really see what the big deal is here...
Gingerbread is available to us through Custom ROMS.... For me, the developer support behind the DZ was one of the main reasons I decided to purchase it.
The EVO is a flagship device for HTC so I can understand why they decided to get it updated before the DZ/G2...
The official update will come, just give it time. In the meanwhile, try one of the many custom roms we have to choose from.

actually the update was confirmed to be in july for the desire z a while ago, so dont worry

I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.

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I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.
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* I'm just sayin......

HTC have said the update will arrive before the end of June, which still gives them a month before they break any promises.
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Guys its not about having leaked updates or devs making update for us .... Rule of thumb is that newer phone should get update before older phone .... Desire z was released a month or 2 after desire HD ... Yet they got official update a month back ... And now even an older phone like evo is getting update before ours . Getting official update means more stable bug free Rom along with its source code so that devs start working on it properly.... We haven't got that and apparently we will get that around start of July . That's a damn shame ....
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The EVO was pretty much the only decent Android phone on Sprint for a long time, while the markets with the DZ have had a choice of devices. And although Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US, they are still relatively large. And the US is probably HTC's largest market. Don't know the exact numbers of DZ users versus EVO, but it would seem from these factors that there are more EVO users than DZ users, and HTC has to prioritize somehow. That doesn't mean that the DZ is "useless".
Besides, latest promise from HTC is before the end of Q2 (end of June) for us to get the update. If they keep that promise, that's only a few weeks after the EVO gets it, at most. And it might be sooner.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-updates-desire-z-gingerbread-status-out-by-end-of-june

While I'm fairly annoyed that we seem to be last to get Gingerbread on our phones, its been quoted at Q2 for quite some time, so I hope to get it this month. Its more because I have some weird issues with the 1.72 software than features.
I can understand devs wanting to see the ROM as they probably want the official Kernel source, or apps like Sense out of it to cook into their own ROMs.
All said, is HTC actually working on Gingerbread for DZ? There has only been 1 very early leak compared to a "final" for the G2. Granted, they have Sense to test too but that was in March (28th ish)
Lets hope for delivery within the next 30 days.
Craig

wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...

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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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chill, bro. it's just a phone.
and no, us G2 owners have not received Gingerbread OTA... I'm not sure why any one here would care anyway, as most of us are already on Gingerbread. yeah, there will probably be some improvements with new source released, but you're blowing this a bit out of proportion.

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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.

Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? The fragmented nature of Android is as much Google's fault as the manufacturers'. I for one think HTC is pretty awesome. When a huge corporation actually LISTENS to a small rooting/enthusiast community and unlocks their bootloaders, that's a good day. I see the benefit to having that official source code, but I'm running a 2.3 leak with LP+ and Spare Parts and it's so fast and smooth it's almost ridiculous. Again, why is it a big deal?? I have zero complaints and know the devs here can do some amazing stuff, with or without the official OTA source. It only gets even better from here.

Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
Or I might go with the nexus series atleast they get the updates quicker . But up till GB.... plain Android is very bland for my taste . I hope they really bring some slick UI for icecream . So that I can break my bond with sense and live happily with cyanogen mod
I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.
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Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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At least with HTC when HTC stop releasing updates, you have an excellent community where you can pick up unofficial updates. I have an O2 XDA Orbit 2 (Polaris) with Cyanogenmod 7.0.2 which I'm playing with.
I really like Sense, I also find stock Android bland, so I'll be waiting for official GB

hispeedworm said:
Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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How can an iPhone update not be "on time"? There is only one iPhone. So you can't have the same situation like this "EVO has the update, why don't we". Yes, they have older iPhone generations, but that doesn't really count, IMO, since they have only made incremental improvements to the phone, and no really significant changes. Pretty much the same phone every time, just slightly better CPU and memory specs each time, and cosmetic changes.
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I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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WP7 is pretty much the worst of all worlds. Closed platform with hardly any apps. And incredibly poor sales indicate a very hard road for Microsoft at best. At worst, another dead phone OS from MS, with WP7 owners left out in the cold.

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Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? I for one think HTC is pretty awesome.
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Yeah, agree. HTC has finite resources, and can't update everyone all at one time. Just because they are a bit later updating one phone versus another, people flip out. You want to see awful update support, look at Samsung.

Time to troll HTC again?

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...ist-which-phones-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
So where's ICS for the Shift, HTC?

We might as well start getting on them now since they held out forever on the kernel source. The shift is so under rated still.

I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...

I think its a very possible we will see one because
At first I would have said no way we would get it when HTC released Sense 3.0 which only supported Dual-Core devices. That would make you think any later version after 3.0 would also be a definite no and we will never see ICS (officially for the shift) and we know HTC will have to update Sense UI to a later version for ICS
But then again now HTC released Sense 3.5 on devices which is optimized to run on Single Core phones so now if they do update Sense it leaves room to think maybe their next iteration of sense will be compatible with lower end phones to (don't take that to context to much the shift IS very powerful)
We might also see an update like the EVO got when it recieved gingerbread. It got the firmware upgrade to gingerbread but HTC still kept it at 1.0
So their is always the possibility it could be our turn for that.
and now with the Handset alliance thing which HTC is apart of I believe, part of the ruling is you have to support a device for 18 months with latest updates as long as hardware allows.
If anything we know we will be waiting longer than most devices out there anyway if we do end up getting it. The phone is underappreciated a lot, just like the article says (to be honest I was suprised they even mentioned it)
But yea its basically time to start bugging HTC as much as we possibly can for some kind of update. I know I will start

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I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...
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I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!

VICODAN said:
I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!
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Haha.. well to answer your question.. Trololol away..

*puts on troll hat*

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Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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https://www.facebook.com/htcusa/posts/231659726902311

Official response from HTC USA on Facebook:
Hey guys. If you haven't seen our latest note on ICS, you can catch it here. http://on.fb.me/vSPMMr We will be announcing more phones later so just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean that it won't be in the future.

Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?

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Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Either way we're still waiting. The G1 and other older phones have a more working funtional rom or ICS then we do.
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HTCotta said:
Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.

GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.

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Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.
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Yes your right it is important that we get a official update. A new kernel could really help a lot even if it was a sense kernel.
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HTCotta said:
GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.
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It's not just sprints choice. It's a partnership between sprint and htc. We just need to express that we do want a official update to htc because htc will listen to us, and might come up with something with sprint. Sprint will not listen to us about a official update because all the do is tell htc which phones are more popular and which ones they think should get the updates first, and then htc goes on it's happy way to make a update. Meanwhile they throw in some of sprints apps (big deal). Htc does most of the work. They do all the kernels, and most of the rom development.
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