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Leaked images of HTC Hero or G3?
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3.5mm headphone jack coming to G3!

Does it come with a physical keyboard?

maxisma said:
Does it come with a physical keyboard?
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It does not have hard keyboard. You can see these images. I hate this design. G1 is better. G2 design is the best.

I don't really get their strategy. They realease the G1: Kind of boring specs, but all is good. Then the Magic/Sapphire, which kind of makes sense; a G1 with better design and no physical keyboard. Then they release this? What's the point? From the looks of it it's just a slightly modified Sapphire with (maybe) a 3.5mm jack and no trackball.
Come on now, mix it up a little, HTC. Give us something different, like a HUGE screen like the Touch HD (only with capacitive TS), or a Palm Pre type of slider.. anything, as long as it's something different.

AGREED X 1000000000^100000000
i dont get it at all.... i know i personally wont even consider changing my g1 for anything w/o a physical keyboard, but id at least like to see some different designs.... even samsung went for slim no keyboard look....

UGLY!!! Design, common!!! HTC be creative.

hideous......

I really dislike the chin on all these HTC phones, I find it unattractive and obstructive when using the phone. They should ditch those chins and go for a more sleek design. Looking at that phone from the back reminds me of my dad's phone from around 15 years ago...

alot of reviews said the g1 was ugly when it first came out but that thing is really ugly

Agreed, mannyb, I'm liking the VK on the Cupcake release, but every once in a while I'll need to slide out the keyboard to touch some physical buttons. Until touchscreens can also mold and raise/lower to form semi-physical buttons, I think I need a keyboard that I can feel my way around.
I've used a completely-touchscreen phone before, and the input sucks if you're tired or uncoordinated for a day.

i thought that G3 was made by Huawei...and heard that g3's appearance will look like an iphone with no keyboard

http://www.gsmarena.com/huaweis_android_smartphone_is_the_future_tmobile_g3-news-865.php

(VID) HTC Hero Build on our G1's- by Haykuro!
First of all to everyone that doesn't have a G1, Drop everything and go get one now!!!
WHY??
This is why....
1st Video!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKQj1xXFDSo
2nd video!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OMrSTEBeyI
"TO ALL THAT HAVE A G1, ALL WE CAN DO IS WAIT"

A-Developed said:
First of all to everyone that doesn't have a G1, Drop everything and go get one now!!!
WHY??
This is why....
1st Video!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKQj1xXFDSo
2nd video!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OMrSTEBeyI
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Christ. It's like no one knows what the search button is or even tries reading what's already on the forums. Pro tip: Lurk more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515908

this just made me mad with happyness!

The voice in the video annoyed me.

JesusFreke,TheDude, and Haykuro working on the Hero build!!
While browsing threw both Haykuro's and TheDude's post I have learned that both have received the "HTC Hero ROM" from XDAN, Thus meaning both will have their own version of the "HTC Hero ROM"...! Also JF is also on this, don't know much about his works on this, but by what Haykuro and Dude have been posting, he is in it!!
(UPDATED) 12/23/09 Quote Haykuro:
"Im at work now guys, hopefully get some more work done with magic later.. might have some heroic experiences later today"
HTC Hero Build Update Videos By Haykuro:
1st
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWYtbCzupyU
2nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxXy2Vg6ck0&feature=channel
3rd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnxD9MKFbJg&feature=channel
Quote TheDude's:
"Hi.
Reporting from insano pre-wedding bliss (sister's wedding is this weekend)
Expect something mondayish. Nothing big...just the boot img cleanup, and a newer a2sd script.
BUT
Something big later...so big...it's giving me a headache, but one day, if i'm lucky, I'll be your hero "
2nd Quote:
"This isn't donut. This is cupcake with some slick UI changes and some new providers."
Quote Haykuro's:
"to further explain what funbacon posted..
xdan provided me and dude with the hero ROM thus it's over at that Chinese site as well. (i figure he doesn't care about me telling now that he's talking about it).
EDIT: guys, please stop with the rumors. ha ha.
xdan provided the ROM, i did the porting.
I'm not sure where dude is as far as the build goes."
(UPDATE)QUOTE THE DUDE:Ok I'll fess up.
Haykuro and I are no longer building roms. We have a team of elves that work on 10 hour shifts injecting code as we specify.
JesusFreke is Santa Claus
(UPDATE) Quote Haykuro:
Hopefully get a newer hero build today.. in the mean time, would you guys like a new sapphire build?
Alright guys when i get home from school it'll be up
Its just going to be a completely stable version of 5.0.2 kind of like a mix between adp1.5 and 5.0.2 ill probably call it 6.0

we neeed answers LOL.

I know man!! The suspense is killing me!

notxel21 said:
I know man!! The suspense is killing me!
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aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! lol

Froyo Android 2.5??

So I was just reading about, Froyo 2.5 will this ever be available for the HERO or would that most likely be on the upcoming EVO?
I was reading about some of the features including the "Portable App Engine"
Using the new Portable App Engine, Android will now be able to run Palm Pre and iPhone applications using a virtual machine.
While the Pre only has about 2,000 applications, Apple’s iPhone is currently the industry leader with 150,000+. iPhone’s best games are very desirable to non-iPhone owners, for example, as they generally offer superior graphics and level of gameplay, that is, until Froyo comes out.
Portable App Engine is a "20%" project started by 2 Google engineers – Joseph Smarr and Ikai Lan – and got its name from Google’s flagship App Engine.
Google is notorious for allowing their engineers to work 20% of their time (1 day a week) developing their own ideas and releasing the most ingenious ones to the public. For example, Gmail, Google News, Orkut, Google Talk, and Google Sky Map were all "20%" projects
Any news When this is becoming available? Or if there is any dev out there with and leaks?

Seriously? We dont even have 2.1 yet. What makes you think 2.5 will be out any time soon??

Wasnt this an April fools joke?

I think the Hero will get FroYo eventually, like 8 months after every other phone does. By then, I will be at least two handsets away from the Hero.
I do happen to have a few Google engineers on speed dial though, let me give them a ring.
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were getting 2.1 we know that, I was just reading about 2.5. I dont think its a joke type in Android 2.5 in google and I was just reading some facts about it and it seems insane that you could run ALL the apps from the iPhone and from the Palm Pre

Darkshneider said:
Wasnt this an April fools joke?
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Yes the Portable app Engine was for April Fools.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...d-2-5-froyo-rom-and-upcoming-features-leaked/

Yeah, thats what I thought.

that sucks!!! lol that sounded pretty DAMN cool thing to be able to do that lol

Lmao, I almost feel bad for not putting up a "this is an April fools joke" note on that page. Almost.

check out this ... android 2.5's Portable App Engine is not a April fool!!!
check this:mobi-solutions.blogspot.com/2010/04/two-powerful-blasts-of-excitements-real.html

FroYo = Android 2.2 not 2.5. It really doesn't matter.
Our phones probably won't handle the app engine any way since everything seems to be going snapdragon. I would like to see a Android Tegra phone my self. but thats besides the point.

wouldnt a virtual app engine running iphone apps somehow be illegal? i dont think apple would let that happen.
that link you posted seemed pretty bogus to me.

also, everyone is aware apple released the sdk for the ipad, right?
aint no stoppin the jockin

mountaindont said:
wouldnt a virtual app engine running iphone apps somehow be illegal? i dont think apple would let that happen.
that link you posted seemed pretty bogus to me.
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It was an April Fools joke...

danknee said:
It was an April Fools joke...
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i am fully aware of this, topeka thought theyd be funny.

danknee said:
It was an April Fools joke...
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i cant stop watching your dancing android
make him to the mocarena(sp?)!!!!!

Kcarpenter said:
FroYo = Android 2.2 not 2.5. It really doesn't matter.
Our phones probably won't handle the app engine any way since everything seems to be going snapdragon. I would like to see a Android Tegra phone my self. but thats besides the point.
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You, sir, are correct. I've heard from reliable sources that 2.2 is in it's testing stage. Also, someone posted pictures on 4chan of a HTC Magic running Froyo.
I'd normally be very skeptical about anything I hear on 4chan, but these look legit. From what I've read, they're going to slow Android core updates to a crawl now that the OS has reached maturity. They are going to put all the Google apps in the market starting with this release. (ie Dialer, Music, Youtube, Gmail etc etc) That'll allow them to update those components individually so people using certain devices won't get stuck using old software for an unreasonable amount of time. *cough*
This'll help reduce the fragmentation issues that have plagued the platform from the get-go.

illogic6 said:
You, sir, are correct. I've heard from reliable sources that 2.2 is in it's testing stage. Also, someone posted pictures on 4chan of a HTC Magic running Froyo.
I'd normally be very skeptical about anything I hear on 4chan, but those look legit.
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I saw these pictures, but never really realized they where from a Magic. Looks like we could possibly run 2.2, but again that portable app engine seems like it wouldn't work well on our phones. Java's mantra of "Write once, run anywhere" doesn't take in to affect the performance of the host machine. Google could prove me wrong, they have before.

What's the download?
OK... so I went to the android police site about froyo. It absolutely sounds way out there, but what is the download they're linking to? Anyone download it to see what it is? I'm kinda scared to thinking that it'll pop up a virus or something but I don't think android police would do that. Would they? Anyone try it?

IndoSlim said:
OK... so I went to the android police site about froyo. It absolutely sounds way out there, but what is the download they're linking to? Anyone download it to see what it is? I'm kinda scared to thinking that it'll pop up a virus or something but I don't think android police would do that. Would they? Anyone try it?
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It has been tried. Haykuro uploaded it as an April Fool's joke if I remember correctly. I've downloaded it and it looked to be an 80mb junk file.

Let's laugh at iPhone "iNone" 4

Let's laugh at iNone 4
AppleCare: The iPhone 4 Update Won't Solve the Antenna Problem
Well this is just a nice way to come back from a holiday. It seems someone at AppleCare has stated that the iOS 4 update won't solve the antenna issues so many users are complaining about on their new iPhone 4. Apparently it will change the way the antenna indicator calculates bars, but that won't solve what happens when you touch the left lower portion of the antenna.
We'll still call this post a rumor until we see the update to the OS actually working and confirming it as a fact, but according to Gizmodo, they gave AppleCare a call three times today and in these three times they got the same "pretty much read" responses:
• There is an antenna interference problem when you hold the iPhone 4 in a certain way
• One solution is to hold the phone differently, avoiding to touch the left bottom corner of the phone
• The other other solution is to buy a case or one of Apple's $30 bumpers
• The incoming software update will not fix this antenna problem, only change the way the phone displays the available signal, make it more accurate
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
ok what now??
The solution? ahaaaa right, I forget to write the solution
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no no no!
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Yep, it will not work with an update - and Apple is reacting as allways ....
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/el...m-issues-signal-strength-att-network-gsm.html
Discussion on Apple Forums (cached on Bing) http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=co...48&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=6fddb6d,f506f19b
and the typical reaction http://www.tuaw.com/2010/07/12/apple-drops-consumer-reports-discussion-threads-down-memory-hole/
At least my HD2 works
Nice solutions anyway - not as stylish as i would prefer but i guess without any problems

a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe

RedDevils88 said:
a website posted a solution is to apply a tape on the bottom left corner of the phone covering the gap. anyway, nice photos. i will share them with my frens hehehe
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but that looks ugly and cheap

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you get the point

recently i was talking w/ a frind of me about the hd2 (he really wants one and sorfs this forum very often) and we began to talk about the iphone.
[flame]
we began talking about the new "features" of the ios 4 (about 2/3 of those "features" are supported by wm/android for ages; the others are useless, like increase digital zoom for the camera). i then took a look on apple's ios4 web site.
for your sanity i advise NOT to take a look on that page, i don't know if i should laugh out loud about what is written on that page or rather bash my head against a wall.
beginning at that "facetime" stuffs (video telephy) that only works when connected to wifi, to the "security measures" and busibess functions, it's all either "wtf lol" or "wft lame" or even both for me.
and in the headline it states "With its easy-to-use interface, amazing features, and rock-solid stability, iOS — Apple’s mobile operating system — is the foundation of iPhone. And even as other phones try to catch up, the technologies and features built into iOS 4 keep it years ahead of the competition". come on.
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We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.

Pagnell said:
We don't own iPhone 4's so why should we care one way or another?
This thread is more than a little pathetic.
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even tough i posted here i must say that you are right. we laugh about the iphone/ipad especially if there's a vid on youtube of some guy bashing his ithing with a baseball bat but cry if someone throws his hd2 at a wall .
but we all need some valve.

Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology " system allows your objects to be moved in spacetime, allowing you the freedom to arrange your surroundings with one easy push.
Apple gives you the power to manipulate obects in ways you never thought possible, allowing you the creativity you need to get ahead. Any other methods of moving matter are relegated into obscurity, as you are so far ahead of evolution people will travel back in time just to be humbled by your superiority as an Apple customer.
Only $499 for all this productivity, and only $49 a month thereafter! "iWheel, the product humans have been waiting for, since Jesus."
*cue 2million mugs cough people emailing apple to get on the iWheel waiting list*

jem85 said:
Available soon, the Apple iWheel(tm)! Apples "Rotational Symetrical Hardware Information Technology "
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I love the acronym you can create from that. Good show mate, good show...

I forgot to put a link to this topic!
http://gizmodo.com/5580587/applecare-the-iphone-4-update-wont-solve-the-antenna-problem
and of course it is not me who write this topic
So much for state of the art industrial design. Don't get me wrong, the concept is cool and I am a big fan of the phone. I just wouldn't call this a break through until Apple can prove it can work. Surely getting a free bumper is a great solution Apple should attend to by giving these away for free, but there are some of us here who simply don't like to carry their phones on cases..
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My Facebook Argument

iPhone guy. Gah. We get along great now, though xD
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"You are by far my best component"!?
Lol. What does that even mean?

There is no point arguing with a apple fanatic, its like arguing with a rock.
Maybe if you throw in works like "wonderful", "fantastic" ,"incredible", "awesome"...
lol at "sketchy" and "bit laggy", thats so non-technical and abstract coming from a nerd. (probably never even tried a nexus)
Otherwise you should have showed him:
your battery,
your sd card,
a ps-ef from a shell (sh, bash etc),
your ability to use any working SIM,
navigation, voice recognition,
your ability to hold the phone any way you want

grandmasterethel said:
"You are by far my best component"!?
Lol. What does that even mean?
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LOL. I wrote that to make sure he was paying attention, and actually READING what I was talking about. >_>
britoso said:
There is no point arguing with a apple fanatic, its like arguing with a rock.
Maybe if you throw in works like "wonderful", "fantastic" ,"incredible", "awesome"...
lol at "sketchy" and "bit laggy", thats so non-technical and abstract coming from a nerd. (probably never even tried a nexus)
Otherwise you should have showed him:
your battery,
your sd card,
a ps-ef from a shell (sh, bash etc),
your ability to use any working SIM,
navigation, voice recognition,
your ability to hold the phone any way you want
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I agree on all of the above. I was going to say, at one point, "at least I don't have to put duct tape on my phone to call people" xD, but decided to leave that out. And - another thing - even a Jailbroken iPhone is barely customizable. It was late and I didn't want to mention that, because I would have stayed up for another hour arguing with him. I would have, too, if it wasn't so late. xD

It makes me laugh when Apple fanboys say that a Mac can run Windows 7. Then why the f*** did you get a mac? lol. I've stopped arguing with Apple fanboys for the reason that britoso mentioned.

lol iOS4. finally caught up to what winmo and android could have already done.

britoso said:
There is no point arguing with a apple fanatic, its like arguing with a rock.
Maybe if you throw in works like "wonderful", "fantastic" ,"incredible", "awesome"...:
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You forgot "Magical"

I own a Mac and an iPad, wouldn't catch me with an iPhone tho

cymru said:
I own a Mac and an iPad, wouldn't catch me with an iPhone tho
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Shun the non believer! Shunnnn! Shunnnn!
xD
The iPad is too bulky, imo. I'd rather carry around my laptop. And I do.
And Mac's aren't that bad, they got some super sweet media editing software, that I love using. But still.

I have no qualms with any Mac computer...I think the OS is slick...I'm just real nitpicky and I honestly hate the lil dock bar (good for looks, but nothing more, give me a taskbar anyday over a dock bar) and I also LOATH the finder bar...give me the menu in EACH and EVERY app...many other things I just don't like...and many things it does indeed do better though...I do not like the explorer either...(same with Ubuntu btw, but that's customizable to an extent so a non issue)
The main appeal of Android IMO is it's desktop like feel....Especially with ADW or LauncherPro installed...no sea of icons can beat that IMO.

I love that everyone thinks they're "a hacker" because they can complete a three-click jailbreak.
Although I will say that the same applies on the Android side. Rooting and flashing a custom ROM based on instructions found on the internet doesn't make anyone a hacker either. The hackers are the ones that did it first.

Well, Technically, all a Hacker is, is someone who is taking something and making it do something that it wasn't meant to do. And android was meant to do bloody well everything. So there's not much hacking going on here, is there ;D

Yea I'm still new to Android but I was able to whip up heavily customized versions of the latest Windows Mobile build in no time. Even Windows Mobile gives you more choices when it comes to user interface and tasks.... it just runs ****ty and ugly (although the later builds are coming around).
Nothing beats Android though. I tell all my friends and family that have iPhones that "Android is like an iPhone on crack"

Wow.
Just wow.
p.s. (It's just a phone you have no stake in)
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But wait.. the iPhone 4 does have the most advanced antenna design ever. It's "revolutionary."
Oh, and you should've told him that you don't have to kill your warranty to tether for free.. or pay 99 cents for a flashlight app.

LOL, sour apples doesn't have a clue!

Your views about Xperia X8!

Well, I have started this thread to know your opinion about Xpreia X8.
There is a poll in this thread so plz continue voting!

mohakrastogi said:
Well, I have started this thread to know your opinion about Xpreia X8.
There is a poll in this thread so plz continue voting!
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My opinion > It's Superb phone i have ever had ! But SE Service in Very BAD !
You may add this option also...

It's a nice phone to mess around.
It's pretty cheap (beside x10)

Best phone for less than 150€!!! However, SE made horrible job with software... Fully working AOSP 2.1 would be perfect in this moment

mohakrastogi said:
Well, I have started this thread to know your opinion about Xpreia X8.
There is a poll in this thread so plz continue voting!
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Thumb Up:
- Price
- Size
- Basic funcions (email, browser..)
- Perfect if you want (slower) functions of a best performaces (and hi price) phone
Thumb Down:
- Battery
- >>> M U L T I T O U C H <<<
- Front Camera (to keep phone price low, I guess)
- SE Interface (replace asap with LauncherPro, ADW Launcher or similar..)
- SE Upgrade (At the moment no upgrade to Android 2.2 or greater scheduled)

I agree with member above me.

X8 is the best entry level android, cheap phone with HVGA screen, other type in the same price range give you phones with QVGA screen, 3 MP camera is fair enough, better than 2 MP from Samsung I5500, Eclair is good enough for me, just need to root it and enable App2SD make Froyo can be forgotten. Can play many games without lags, slightly smoother than Samsung I5500. The drawback is no multitouch, Samsung Spica I5700 multitouch can be enabled via SamdroidMod, but there is no multitouch too in Samsung I5500 after Froyo upgrade, so I'll be satisfied enough with dual touch, hope this is coming soon for X8. And there is no navigation key that made pain in the ass for me when editing text in messaging and browsing.
Sorry for my bad english...

Not a very good poll.
I chose all the options.
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No seriously, your poll is REALLY bad.
Boshe said:
I agree with member above me.
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Great post.

a-k-t-w said:
Not a very good poll.
I chose all the options.
No seriously, your poll is REALLY bad.
Great post.
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+1 for the poll

a-k-t-w said:
Not a very good poll.
I chose all the options.
No seriously, your poll is REALLY bad.
Great post.
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really!?
what do you want me to add or delete?
the thing is....i bought the phone with the hope that "hey, it's android! i will get updates regularly and will have the latest version unlike wm 6.5!"
but SE really disappointed me!! soo.....i started this one to know whether other people also think the same or not!

Hello,
As someone once post here my opinion about the X8 is like love/hate relationship.
There is times when I really love my phone and times when I really hate it.
But for it`s money it`s great phone.
And if you never use Android in my opinion it`s easy to use this phone.

mohakrastogi said:
really!?
what do you want me to add or delete?
the thing is....i bought the phone with the hope that "hey, it's android! i will get updates regularly and will have the latest version unlike wm 6.5!"
but SE really disappointed me!! soo.....i started this one to know whether other people also think the same or not!
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The fact I can vote for every option at once shows that it is bad. Also the options are too bias. A simple "I like this phone"/"I don't like this phone" would do.

very nice phone,just waiting for froyo roms by racht...

Is's so cheap~

It's a Great phone for it's price, It's beautifull, really well designed compared to other devices. It's solid and SE quality made. In Hardware we can't really complain, like I said, for it's price... In Software, well good... except, what we all know, BAD CUSTOMER SERVICE from SE... If it weren't that it would be a great! phone.

i buy this phone for 200$ dolares on amazon, any other phone for that price is better than this X8

Pro's
>Form Factor
>Design
>Price
>Great Screen Size and Resolution
Con's
>Multi Touch
>Camera
>Update's
in this price range tier its direct competitor it would be Optimus One P500 it has
>Multi Touch
>2.2 Android update and can be upgraded to 2.3?
>Higher Ram 512
>Better Camera w/ Auto Focus/Face and Smile Detection
>More Screen Colors
>Bigger Screen .2"
>A Bit Higher Available Phone Memory
Much Expensive than X8 around $25-$30 more, but for all those features its worth it, if X8 have those features too, then X8 would be one of the BEST Android Mid Range

Amazon dont sell lg optimus ONE .

X8 is a great phone. i really love it

Everything is good except software update. I really hate the abandonment from SE.