Hello i got an unidentified issue with my Touch after reassembling it.
I bought a White Cover for my Touch and everything worked fine on disassemble and reassemble it. But now i got this crazy issue with my batterylife. It is not normal, the life is so shorten up to some hours without doing anything.
When the mobile phone is just idling the battery life is after 2 hours from 100% to 60% down and after 6 hours my battery is empty. I don't understand why this happen.
Could i do anything wrong on the assemble? The other thing is, that my camera stops also working after this reassemble. I can start the program but nothing happen. Tried many reboots and also formating system and installing it again.
Camera is still not working and something eats my battery
Does anyone have ideas? Thanks in advance.
Greets
tom
When you try to start the program, does anything happen? Does it launch the program and display a black screen as if the lens was blocked, or the camera chip is not plugged into the main board? It may have become disconnected during the case swap.
As to the battery, it could be linked, it may not - I don't know I wonder if something could be shorting internally afterwards, but I wouldn't be too sure!
How old is the battery as well - it may well just be coincidence that it has come when you changed the case (although I doubt it!)
When i try to launch the program nothing happens. It doesn't show anything just idle, like i would have never clicked to open it.
I will check today again the camera at the mainboard, when i will arrive at home after work. Maybe it is this problem, that camera tries to connect and can't and eats my batterylife.
The battery is about 2 1/2 years old but worked fine before i changed the cover my phone was many days on before it gone empty. It's just curious
Now i need always the charger for my phone every some hours
Damn, i tried reassembling it again but it didn't solve my issue. My Battery is still shorten empty and camera is also not working after reseating it.
Hey stu any other ideas? I have to recharge my phone 4-6 times a day, this sucks really.
Do you think it could be caused by the cover? That maybe a piece of metal is sucking my battery out?
Recharging of my battery is also low now, it need soooo long. Please need help.
I really am still tempted to say the battery is dead.
it could be worth installing HomeScreen++ (UI) so you can see how much charge is being drained, and also how much goes in when charging.
it may be possible, on a long shot, that the battery is not passing enough power to boot the camera - who knows.
Is your battery slightly buldging as well? This is something I have noticed at my work that happens when batteries are coming to end of life - they also tend to be rather erratic and do not maintain a charge or take a charge (these are 4400mah batteries that cost £100 as well :/)
Have you read the thread in rom development as well about battery conditioning? That may help, anything is possible, right?
I took my devices apart yesterday to see if I could find something that may be shorting - but I was unsuccessful
So okey i have downloaded this HomeScreen UI and my Battery is draining 326mA/1305mW and Device is 36°C or 97°F hot. Is this okey? How much should it be?
At charging my Battery it shows +265mA/1008mW.
Battery is not bulging its ok like always.
Maybe i should buy new better battery on ebay?
Greets
tom
Sweet jesus, my batery drain is 79mA/331mW
Something is causing some massive battery drain - What apps are you running/installed?
Stu i have normal installed programs of my ROM Onyx Ultimate 4.1.6. But it can't be any program installed, i did a hardreset and it was before the reset too like that.
It happens after i changed my Cover to White with everything except the digitizer, Speaker and LCD display them were okey.
Could this issue be caused of my Speaker? On putting it out from old Cover i broke it a little bit with a screw driver i push it to get it out and now the sound is weird the bass is warped. I ordered a new one, it still works but ****ty.
But who knows, if its not this Speaker drain so much, but why it should I am so helpless
Be interesting to see what happens with the replacement to be honest - I am really intrigued!
Not a lot more I can suggest for now - I'd still try a new battery after the speaker if there is no improvment.
How do the connections look on the speaker? Are they all clear and not touching anything else as well?
Okey i will buy a new battery for my phone, maybe its the issue, but i don't think so.
Today it is curious my phone just drain 650mW not 13xxmW anymore. But when i charge my phone, its increase again to 980mW
I will disassemble my phone today again at home and check if some metal is not correctly in the cover.
Okey i tested my phone again without the cover. I disassemble it and powered it without cover on and my battery was draining same about 1169mW.
So it is not the cover, maybe i should really buy a new battery.
Ok it did not help with the new battery. Still the same issue like before.
I bought a new mobile phone HTC desire and I am so happy about that. There is no compare with the old touch
Hmm, still trying to figure out what would be wrong if it was not related to the battery - possibly what controls it - but then that is a hardware fault.
I'll do some more thinking and see what I can come up with.
The desire is an awesome phone - one of the ones I am looking at getting soon. (Currently have a Hero as my main device and my Elfs as my spare/mess around phones)
yea desire is really awesome, i like to browsing through the market place
i think the elf has problems with the camera and this the issue for sucking battery out.
because it doesn't work anymore. when i press on the camera button, nothing happes.
no sandclock is showing up. just idle like never clicked on the button.
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Weird thing: Every now and then my Atom Life reboots when I get an incoming call. It rings for around 2 seconds and reboots. Any idea what that may be? I have no other problems at all, it never restarts when anything else happens!
Crikey!
that happens to me as well. ****s me to know end... I think the battery charge may have something to do with it. ie if my atom life is fully charge i don't think it happens? it just seems to be when it gets lower... great to know i'm not the only one with this problem though.
the same problem.it happens all the time when the battery is at 40% or less.
I think you're right. I changed to another battery I have, and that seems to have fixed it. Strange thing is that the battery I have used so far has been between 70 & 80 % when it's happened, and it dies at around 40 %. Probably a faulty battery. Thanks!
you mean your phone works fine now,even on 20%?
Actually, i've read on several forum that Atom, watever model it is comes with a battery that is somewhat faulty. Changing to another battery other that the default one actually solves the problem of it shutting down @ 40%..
Bikiapo, unfortunately, no. I thought I had fixed it, but I hadn't.
Lann_78, that doesn't surprise me! These units have a few problems that are really annoying, but for me the postivies (fast CPU, good connectivity, small size) makes up for it in my book. I have a few no original batteries laying around from my previous Atom, so I'll try with those. Thanks!
im wondering what O2 says about all of this.because im sure they know.we bought our devices with money not with nuts.all over the internet they talk about this devices with the worst words.O2 MUST DO SOMETHING!!!
Well, since I changed the battery I haven't had any problems. I guess it's a subcontractor that cut corners on the battery. I guessing that they simply can't keep the voltage at the necessary 3.7 Volts when they fall below 50 %, or whatever the real percentage it is, and there's a surge in power usage, like a call coming in.
i just buy a battery 3550 mAh.till now was 1530 mAh.do you think it will fix the problem?
Probably. Those batteries are very thick, so you need another backplate. But you probably got that as well in the package, right?
yes there is one in the package.have you ever saw a battery like this one? is it much bigger than the original battery?and the weight...?
I have no idea, I have only seen it in the eBay auctions, and I know that if a battery has that much more capacity and has a new backplate, it must be bigger. Which is why I don't buy one, I like my aluminum case too much.
same problem
Hey i was under the impression that aftr i dropped my O2 Atom life a couple opf times the batery has started behaving erratically.....good to know that others are also facing the same issue...in my case the phone goes off and then i need to put it on...is it the same what everyone else goes trhough...i too feel that only when it is below 40% mark this problem happens that an incoming call rings for a few seconds and then the phone goes off...
visit the site gsmerana.com and you will see thar we are not alone.many owners of atom life with the same problems.
I've got the same problem. But it solved now.
Just change the CPU profile to best Power. It works on Me
Strange. I always had the CPU profile set like that. It didn't do any good for me. But what did help was to use another battery. I haven't had the problem since I stopped using the batteries that came with the thing.
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Strange. I always had the CPU profile set like that. It didn't do any good for me. But what did help was to use another battery. I haven't had the problem since I stopped using the batteries that came with the thing.
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It's true the battery that came with the package didn't fit excatly in the device, the battery size a bit smaller than the slot. So i try to put some paper so the battery could fit in.
The fit isn't the problem. The problem is that if it's below 50 % charge the voltage sinks so low that a call will make the phone restart. And even turning on the WiFi can reboot it.
hey there. new in the forum, new atom life for me..
but i had the same problem as you guys.
the thing is that atom not only restarted, the device couldnt boot at all. after several tries i had to do hard reset... twice in 3 days.. and thank god i didnt have any important data to lose at the moment, but who knows in the future?At the beggining i thought that some programm crashed but now i see there is something more serious here...
All we have to do is send our complaints to O2 about all this. if this is a manufacter problem then they have to solve it for us... dont you think?
I think WMWiFiRouter caused my battery to stop working, permanently. I know, that sounds crazy, right? Here's what happened...
o I plugged the phone into a wall charger.
o I set up WMWiFiRouter on my Hermes. It worked perfectly... I just had to turn on DHCP Allocator.
o I connected two laptops to it, doing basic web browsing.
o I ran a ping running constantly, and every once in a while, the ping to the 'net would fail... resetting the IP address on my laptop always fixed it.
o After several hours of using it like this, the connection died. I went to the phone, and it was off, and had a red LED light lit. It would not turn on at all. The phone, while not scorching, was hotter than I've ever experienced before.
o The battery I was using was an extended battery. It no longer works. I've used this battery exclusively for almost a year, and have never had a single issue with it.
o I tried the original phone battery, and it worked fine.
So, the phone is fine, but the battery is dead. I'm not suggesting that WMWiFiRouter has a software problem of any kind. But I'm betting the strain of using WiFi and 3G at the same time for extended periods was too much for the phone, causing more heat than usual, indicating the battery was working too hard. So, I wouldn't tell anyone not to use WMWiFi, but be careful. I'm afraid to use it again, and yet I might take my chances anyway, because it's so darn useful .
John
maybe thats why there are not more programs like it
with batt limits
and latency when i routes i'm sure
it not a good replacement for a usbWifi card and a wifi Router
How long ago did the other battery die? You may want to try it again a day later or so.
Yes, the devices take a lot power using WiFi full time and so obviously the device will get hot, which they don't like. How hot they get is device specific though, doesn't seem too bad with my Kaiser. One guy has claimed running it continuesly for a month without issue.
So short version: maybe
You are right! I just tried it after a couple of days, and the extended battery does indeed work again! How did you know that ?
Probably the battery just overheated and got a chemical imbalance due to it... often settles down if you leave it alone a bit. Happens with all kinds of batteries, not just phone batteries
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Probably the battery just overheated and got a chemical imbalance due to it... often settles down if you leave it alone a bit. Happens with all kinds of batteries, not just phone batteries
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Try using a stock battery, you may find that it will work OK.
Most lithium batteries have some form of resettable thermal trip within them to prevent fire/explosion due to catastophic discharge. It will reset after a time depending on how hot the battery got and how fast it can cool down (better out of the phone). If you have noticed the stock battery, it has a metal plate to try to act as a simple heatsink/spreader. Third party batteries don't usually have this and thus suffer more from overheat.
The ones that you have heard of from laptops that go 'BLEWIE!!' are usually due to faulty manufacture causing an internal breakdown of isolation layers and subsequently an internal short by one or more cells not covered by the thermal trip.
Yeah what he ^^^ said
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Yeah what he ^^^ said
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I shall have to stop snacking on those dictionaries Chainfire, they give me and other people heartburn!!
wmwifirouter
I am in need of help can you please tell me where and what to download to turn my verizon xv6800 into a wmwifirouter? any info will be greatly appreciated
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I think WMWiFiRouter caused my battery to stop working, permanently. I know, that sounds crazy, right? Here's what happened...
o I plugged the phone into a wall charger.
o I set up WMWiFiRouter on my Hermes. It worked perfectly... I just had to turn on DHCP Allocator.
o I connected two laptops to it, doing basic web browsing.
o I ran a ping running constantly, and every once in a while, the ping to the 'net would fail... resetting the IP address on my laptop always fixed it.
o After several hours of using it like this, the connection died. I went to the phone, and it was off, and had a red LED light lit. It would not turn on at all. The phone, while not scorching, was hotter than I've ever experienced before.
o The battery I was using was an extended battery. It no longer works. I've used this battery exclusively for almost a year, and have never had a single issue with it.
o I tried the original phone battery, and it worked fine.
So, the phone is fine, but the battery is dead. I'm not suggesting that WMWiFiRouter has a software problem of any kind. But I'm betting the strain of using WiFi and 3G at the same time for extended periods was too much for the phone, causing more heat than usual, indicating the battery was working too hard. So, I wouldn't tell anyone not to use WMWiFi, but be careful. I'm afraid to use it again, and yet I might take my chances anyway, because it's so darn useful .
John
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Don't the new modern cellular batteries have on-board processors that are supposed to regulate the power, and shut the battery down to prevent damage from overcharging or severe drain? Maybe the aftermarket battery you used had a defective or mismatched processor for the battery.
-Jay
I love playing/streaming music through tcpmp while at work. Only problem is that after about a couple of hours of streaming music the kaiser will just shut down all the way down. the first time scared the hell out of me. But I had read the WHOLE wiki on lithium batteries so I quickly calmed down and hoped that it was the battery's safety circuitry causeing the abrupt stoppage. My kaiser also wears a clear case, which looks great and restricts very little when using the keyboard but sadly it works as a great insulator along with the rubber, grippy battery cover of the kaiser's. So double insulation is causing the failure but I don't want my kaiser unprotected either.
I have got some plans on rigging up a heatsink apparatus that will extend past the case or replace the restrictive case and the clear case as well. Another reason to find or build an effective sink would be to preserve the battery's life. Supposedly heat is the quickiest way to kill a lithium battery. Now thinking about it I could probably do without the pain in the a$$ to get off back cover all together. as long as the battery sat in its cavity snuggly enough. I'm thinking a few layers of aluminum screening soldered or glued to together would make a fine heatsink. if done neatly would probably look like carbon fiber! Hopefully a good Hsink can be sold by a third party but I doubt it since extreme computing/heating since to be a new issue.
OBTW, WMWiFi makes a great hand warming program when its cold outside!
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I am in need of help can you please tell me where and what to download to turn my verizon xv6800 into a wmwifirouter? any info will be greatly appreciated
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stop being lazy and google it
Hello all,
I bought the HD a couple of months after it first was released and have never had this problem until about 3 days ago, where my phone has started to suddenly "die" even with ample battery life in it. When I reboot it, it simply starts to reboot then dies again as if the battery is dead, however, when I plug it into the charger, it shows that it has over half to almost full battery life. So the problem can not be that the battery is simply dying. What could be causing this problem? I have ample free main storage and program memory and it occurs even when there is only one program running or even when I'm just in the middle of a call.
Can anyone help me solve this problem? I have tons of medical programs in my phone which took forever to install and don't want to hard reset the phone, especially if that is not even the solution to the problem. Help?
Same thing happened to me, but my phone gets some water. I had to dry it and wait a month. Then it worked fine. If your phone hasn't took any water the problem must be elsewhere.
One question, it dies even if attached to the power? or only on battery?
If it dies only on battery then could be the battery not working properly.
bye
Batteries do weird stuff when they're dead. If it works OK on power but not on battery, chances are the battery is indeed on its way out. If you don't want to do a hard reset, a replacement battery on ebay is cheap and worth trying.
Hello,
I have exactly the same behavior. I changed of Rom, different build, each time running Task29, but it is always the same thing :
- when charged, phone never dies
- when on battery, it randomly dies but always when phone is awake
I think too it may come from the battery, so I just ordered a new one, and I'll keep you up to date.
Ciao,
Yea, so far it has occurred about 4 times, always when it's not plugged in however the battery meter shows alof of battery time left. I'm thinking it's the battery too, it just sucks to have to pay so much for an OEM battery. Oh well, thanks for the help everyone.
Hello,
so I received my new battery this morning.
After some phone calls and some tests...so far so good ! I'll tell you if something's change in the next days, but it seems changing the battery is the solution.
Cheers,
Mine started doing similar things. Guess I will order a battery too. Which one did you get?
Well I got the exact same one I had previously : an official htc touch hd battery.
Part number : 35H00120-01M.
I hope this one will last until I really want to change my phone .
Any more issues since replacing the battery?
still no issues so far. I am really happy because as the battery is new, my phone last much longer than before.
Same here. Got the new battery yesterday and it's back to it's old self. Now it should last me until the dual core processor Android devices come out next year.
Well it would be nice if my pnone only turned off when it wasnt on charge but it seems to just reset itself whenever it wants. it will simply turn off and start right back up sometimes not even reaching the rom load before it turns off again. It does this for a while or just simply once. I tried erasing all data off it and hoping it was something i uploaded but it could be that my battery is just no good anymore.
Any suggestions? ive been dealing with this for 6 months
I don't know about you, but I played quite a lot with my phone, trying a lot of ROM, for a while, even beta ones, and I tried to overclock it. Often the phone would heat up a lot. It may have be hard on the battery.
Right now I am using a stable rom of NRG from last month, with the new battery, and everything is fine. The phone never heat, and I happy for now.
Like Marksm, I am waiting for Android dual core phones or at least based on Tegra 2.
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Well it would be nice if my pnone only turned off when it wasnt on charge but it seems to just reset itself whenever it wants. it will simply turn off and start right back up sometimes not even reaching the rom load before it turns off again. It does this for a while or just simply once. I tried erasing all data off it and hoping it was something i uploaded but it could be that my battery is just no good anymore.
Any suggestions? ive been dealing with this for 6 months
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As pointed out in above posts, a change in battery appears to have rectified issue
been there done that. Didnt work, i got a new phone but i would really like to keep this.
So recently my phone (unrooted unmodded N910C) battery is being extremely weird. When I try to charge my phone, it sometimes doesn't go beyond around 70-90% but if I take out the battery and put it back in, it shows 100%. It sometimes also shuts off on its own at around 40% and when I plug in a charger, it shows sometimes 0% and sometimes 40% (but if I turn it on, it still says 0%). I've tried a lot of things, including discharging completely and recharging to 100% (powered off), factory reset, clearing cache, and quick starting battery and nothing seems to work. Does anyone have similar problems and has anyone found a solution to this?
The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english
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The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english
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Are you sure it's the battery? I took it out and everything looks normal, including the pins. Also, battery apps said that my battery health was good or should I not trust them at all? I just don't want to buy an extra battery if the problem is not with the battery.
I meant the catode pin inside battery not outside. It's your call if you buy a battery or not. I just writed here how the proces work because i have fixed lot of motherboard i knowing about this i have explained to you. Cheers
i have the same problem too and i tested every things and now i am really tire , i dont think thats problem was the battery , can anybody help me plz?
Had similar problem yes new battery at the samsung store the assistant said many note 4 batteries selling I got the last one. Maybe we got a bad batch or its deliberate. Maybe we could do a survey how many people have had to buy a new battery
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I also posted a similar problem. In my case the problem is more alarming, because it's happening in two different batteries, one of them is rather new and fresh. It seems that it started out of the blue, I did not make any major change in the phone.
I am still investigating the issue, I'll be back with more observations.
Just an update on my situation: I bought a new battery and now the battery readings seem to be fine.
I had the same problem as you OP. The problem was definitely the battery for me at least. Bought a new one just the other week and now everything is working perfectly
If the affected battery is under warranty get it replaced for free. Or if the problem does not get solved after cross checking many possibilities. Just buy a new battery. Simple. Good luck.
Hey guys, recently I've been having a TON of battery drain. A while ago someone replaced my screen since the I dropped the phone and the glass broke(stupid me). My friend and I thought that maybe that guy also replaced my battery, without telling me. But what mostly happens: When my phone is on like 50% (sometimes less, sometimes more), it shuts off. When I restart it its at 1%. I added some screenshots off today where it happened again. What could be causing this? And is there anyway I can check if the battery is replaced? Also, the new glass has a few stripes under and above the screen. I don't mind in that much but does anyone know about that aswell?
Thanks in advance.
Well you could first try to reset your battery... There are several methods out there. Just google for it, one popular one involves deleting the batterystats.bin file.
There are also apps that show you the battery health. If it is poor, it is likely that the battery is just damaged or drained.
I used to buy second hand devices, to check the battery I usually read out the charge cycles (how often the battery charged from 0 to 100). However, I don't know how it works for Android these days. But searching for that key word might help you.