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anyone planning on using Nexus on AT&T

I have a magic (from rogers, so it works on At&t 3g) but I really really wanna get on board with the Nexus.
I am in NJ so TMo says 3g coverage is good, but i am just skeptical.
plus i have a family plan on at&t, wife uses iphone, doubt i could talk her into giving it up...
anyone gonna use the nexus on at&t and go without 3g???

I will be replacing my iphone with the nexus tomorrow when the n1 arrives. Because of how awful 3g is in my area (live in seattle work in redmond) I have been using edge almost exclusively. Funnily enough, my dropped calls have ceased after the 3g=>edge move. Go figure
I plan to keep my iphone handy and see just how painful the n1 is without the ability to attempt 3g if I really want it or need it (maps come to mind and so does pandora though both have been acceptable on edge thus far).
Perhaps I can call ATT and have them remove 3g from my account saving me some money each month.

I'm going to try it out on AT&T to see if/(how much) I miss 3g. If I can't get along without it, I'll just switch to T-Mobile. I live in Dallas so both AT&T and T-Mobile have full coverage.

For me, the people I talk to the most are on ATT and it would cost me more to continue my phone habits on a different provider than to just stick with ATT. Moving back to T-Mobile is not an option at this point. I really do wish I had kept my G1 when I made that move

yeah, i was thinking the same thing, just try my non-3g life out and go from there.....at least i'm not alone!
like you said, i have a family / friends all on att, so i might cost more if i were on tmo now...
thakns for input, good luck to us!

I have a g1 & mytouch on at&t just unlocked it. i dont mind having 2G only cuz my battery life is increased and when i get home i have wifi so i just attach to it to get better speeds.. i plan on getting the nexus one when i have the money for it. i didnt know the rogers phones are at&T compatible. anyone wanna sell or trade devices? PM ME
thanks

I hated having my iPhone on Tmobile, no 3G kinda killed the use of an iPhone, the call quality wasn't that great, and though it was handy, it was a bit annoying knowing that I had no 3G. I sold it for $370, used that money to buy a N1 :]

I have an xperia X1a.... and am probably going to buy a nexus.. I"m tired of people w/ cheap, crappy phones having way better internet speed than me.
BUT.. I will make sure that X10 really isn't tmo 3g compatible.

WHy won't the n1 get 3G- any idea when they might change that?

well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.

dsarch21 said:
well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.
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I was just downloading at over 4100kbps on T-mobile.

I just ordered my Nexus One Superphone. Im planning on selling my HTC Magic unlocked A6161 32A with Hero Sense UI.

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I was just downloading at over 4100kbps on T-mobile.
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wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!

No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc

dsarch21 said:
wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!
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T-mo flipped the switch on their 7.2mbps 3G today. I'm sure it was planned to coincide with the N1 release, lol... anyway, T-mo is now the fastest GSM 3G in the U.S., right?
Edit: Just came across this article: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/atandt-kicks-it-into-overdrive-rolls-out-7-2mbps-everywhere-bu/
Seems that AT&T now has a fire under its ass to follow suit. They too are speeding up their upgrade to 7.2mbps, but they won't have the backbone up to speed for a while apparently.

McHale said:
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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Winmo over Android? Really!?! For Microsoft's sake I hope you're right, but I think it's highly unlikely that WM7 will be enough to make Windows a plausible mobile platform. I've been in the wireless industry for a few years and Windows Mobile has, for just as long, been a last resort for anyone but the most diehard Windows fanatic(you?).
I do however agree that it's a win for those of us on T-Mobile. That make's five Android devices to choose from! And for the record I'll be picking up a Nexus One as soon as they start offering it with the employee discount!

McHale said:
No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.

uansari1 said:
Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.
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http://gizmodo.com/5441632/atts-first-android-phones-five-from-motorola-dell-and-htc

deprecate said:
http://gizmodo.com/5441632/atts-first-android-phones-five-from-motorola-dell-and-htc
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It feels good to be right.

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It feels good to be right.
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(this message requires a minimum of 10 chars...satisfied!)

thinking about getting the nexus one with tmobile

Good afternoon all,
I'm thinking about selling my HTC Hero (sprint version) and going with the Nexus One with T mobile. Since I am able to get out of the contract without paying ETF this might be the best opportunity to take advantage of this. Any reasons why I should not do this? I am pretty satisfied with my hero, but faster is always better .
I'm looking for some pros/cons.
thanks in advanced

jtadeo said:
Any reasons why I should not do this? I am pretty satisfied with my hero, but faster is always better .
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TMobile's 3G network is the smallest of the big four, and they don't roam on anyone.

If the Nexus One worked on Sprint/CDMA I would get it. I'd rather wait than deal with TMobile's not so great US network.

posguy99 said:
TMobile's 3G network is the smallest of the big four, and they don't roam on anyone.
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That would explain why my dad gets lousy coverage when he's in Illinois.

jtadeo said:
Good afternoon all,
I'm thinking about selling my HTC Hero (sprint version) and going with the Nexus One with T mobile. Since I am able to get out of the contract without paying ETF this might be the best opportunity to take advantage of this. Any reasons why I should not do this? I am pretty satisfied with my hero, but faster is always better .
I'm looking for some pros/cons.
thanks in advanced
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There will be many better phones in the next year.

Yeah... look at their coverage map. It's a joke compared to Sprint/Verizon/AT&T. I'd drop Sprint right now and get a N1 if the coverage in Illinois wasn't next to zero.

T-Mo HD 2 Unlockable?

So rumor has it to come out on march 24.I'm trying extremely hard to get on but I'm on AT&T.Do anyone think t-mo while pass out the unlock code?Because i heard they used to but that was a while ago.Thanks guys in advance.

if ur on att, why not just get the australian version. that would be better for you since you could get 3g on 850

bc of prolly the big price difference.

Flagship phones have always been $650+ out of contract. I would expect the HD2 to be competing with the Nexus One so a subsidized price of around $300. However, where the Nexus One sells for $530 OOC, I really can't see the HD2 selling at that price - I think Google is working some magic there.
So lets say it retails OOC at $650. Add $50 for lousy taxes. You'll save about $100 which is a fair bit, I won't deny, but at the expense of 3g connectivity which is a big deal on a phone this capable.
As a reference: A Telstra HD2 from PD will run you about $830 with expedited shipping. If you're patient, which you must be if you don't mind waiting until late Mar., maybe $800?
Oh and in regards to your question, AFAIK, TMobile is pretty lax with unlock codes.

so the 3g thing keep poppin up t-mo and att dont have the same 3g?

eastside770 said:
so the 3g thing keep poppin up t-mo and att dont have the same 3g?
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No, Tmobile USA runs 1700/2100. Their phones are usually triband 3G so they are typically compatible with European 3G, if you travel that way.
ATT 3g is 850/1900, and supposedly they are phasing out 1900 by the end of the year.

ohh i have the imagio right now on vzw and im trading it for a tp2 on vzw so ill have 3g no matter what.Mane that kinda makes me think twice about gettin tha fone.

The phone is seriously awesome, envy from iPhone users when they realize all they have is some light saber applications and I am T-Pain It's worth it IMO, but your call. Good luck.

so if i do get it on t-mo what would coverage would i have?

eastside770 said:
so if i do get it on t-mo what would coverage would i have?
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tmobile is great in major cities, and crappy elsewhere
i live in chicago, the tmobile coverage is far better than at&t (guess what at&t? i have signals in door with tmobile!)

Satisfied
The 50 million dollar question is, will you be satisfied with this awesome phone when it cannot do 3g for ATT?
That's what I'm wondering.
$200-300 more for Telstra
or
no 3g (but you still have data) with the regular HD2
I'm debating this furiously.

same boat
im in the same boat,but im thinking the bigger rom is gunna make me not worry so much about 3g.i rarely use net on my phone for anything but email anyway, so 3g speeds aren't super necessary but the bigger rom,more ram, bigger included sd card, and cheaper price make me want to wait till march 24th

jackxlj said:
im in the same boat,but im thinking the bigger rom is gunna make me not worry so much about 3g.i rarely use net on my phone for anything but email anyway, so 3g speeds aren't super necessary but the bigger rom,more ram, bigger included sd card, and cheaper price make me want to wait till march 24th
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Cool, hope you like it. Just for clarification: RAM is the same across all versions (just need an OS upgrade!), and the 16GB SD card is also included with the Telstra (aussie) version.
Hope you like it

hey i feel you Mr. Kayne but i dont wanna pay 6 7 8 hund. for a fone dough.unless somehow we can get somebody who stayin in aus. to sell us one for a good price(300-400).

eastside770 said:
hey i feel you Mr. Kayne but i dont wanna pay 6 7 8 hund. for a fone dough.unless somehow we can get somebody who stayin in aus. to sell us one for a good price(300-400).
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Well looks like i'll get it.
I don't use internet much.
3g decreases the battery life anyways.
I don't care for WM7. (too much)
I have vital apps I want to install on WM 6.5.
For $449 at a tmobile store it's a steal.
(BTW Telstra for $723 on ebay)
Can't wait to get my paws on that phone.

Dell Streak or HD2?

I currently have the HD2, and am sort of bored with it. Well I just happend to come across a guy that wants to trade his new Dell Streak for my phone plus a little cash. I'm tempted, but the only thing is that I live in the states and have T-mobile, so 3G is a no go.
Would you consider doing this trade?

Heck yeah dude!

itsedstech said:
Heck yeah dude!
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Eventough I won't get 3G?

I wouldn't touch a phone I couldn't get 3g on. Not when I get 3-4mbps on my 3g+.

nrfitchett4 said:
I wouldn't touch a phone I couldn't get 3g on. Not when I get 3-4mbps on my 3g+.
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I agree. T-Mo 3G is too valuable (even if I still don't experience their HSPA+ service in SF).
Also, the Dell Streak is a little "awkward" for me. The 5" screen is too big for a phone -- I love my HD2's 4.3" screen, but the HD2 is already big enough -- but too small for a tablet.

nrfitchett4 said:
I wouldn't touch a phone I couldn't get 3g on.
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+1
Smart and to the point!
After getting 15 mbps internet, there is no way I could ever go back to dial-up

Confirm SNS works on Simple Mobile

I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.

tosh1 said:
I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
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Simple Mobile is intriguingly priced.
The Nexus One will never work on the HSPA+ network any faster than the regular HSPA network; the hardware isn't HSPA+ compatible.

tosh1 said:
I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.
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if your phone providers works on 900/1700/2100 then it will work for you, else no

Simple Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller so yes it will work.

Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?

tosh1 said:
Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*

slowz3r said:
the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.

tosh1 said:
Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.
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HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs

unremarked said:
HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs
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I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1

Your going to have a ballin' phone and run bootleg service? Makes no sense to me. If price is a issue why by a 529$ phone?
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slowz3r said:
I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1
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Yep, same here. My Nexus One barely pulled >1mbs. Everyone hails that phone as the greatest thing since sliced bread, and don't get me wrong it was pretty damn great, but it had several flaws too such as the poor 3G reception I'm citing here.

Simple mobile gets t-mobile speed. I am proof that this work. Everything works except 4g since nexus s doesn't have that but I get amazing 3g speed.
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slowz3r said:
the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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I would be happy with a consistent 3.0mb. within a span of 3 miles I can go from 5mb to less than 1mb and lots of areas still are edge

last time i did a speed test maxed out at 2.8 Mbps down on Wind Mobile
and it was even less on Rogers / Fido, so i'm very happy

So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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tosh1 said:
So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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Thats awesome. I have been contemplating getting SIMple Mobile for use on my MT4G or G2, but, I have been thinking about getting a NS to use on SM.
Do any of the Visual Voicemail apps work on this (or any T-Mo phone) using SIMple Mobile? It is my understanding that any FlexPay or Pre-Paid providers cannot offer any type of Visual Voicemail services. I know, Google Voice would work ok, but I'm not happy with their UI, and other aspects of GV.
If any Visual Voicemail apps would work with SIMple Mobile, flawlessly, then I'm sold on both SM & NS.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.

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Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.
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I've read the same thing on HowardForums. Since it's prepaid, you can pay for the service but they can disconnect the data anytime they want during that month.

I'm paying $55.99 a month on a non-contract basis right now, gives me 500 minutes and unlimited data. For SMS I simply use Google Voice which is free. I use it as my primary number instead of the T-Mobile one. I don't know my T-Mobile number even.
So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
I considered it, but quickly abandoned the plan. If it was actually cheaper (for me) I'd be willing to try it.

ritcereal said:
So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
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Woah 1GB data cap? Seems like a plan that would be good for parents, grandparents, or busy businesspeople who don't have the time/desire to do anything but light data use.
Glad you mentioned this, I was actually thinking of trying out the service.