Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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I thought this was eliminated due to the recent update in GV?
As long as you know the incoming numbers and outgoing numbers for GV, nobody is going to stop you from adding them to the A-List.
But the point of the original was that you would add one number and be able to call that one number and reach anyone you wanted. But now its no difference then adding any number to an A-list, right?
The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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Yeah I know what you meant, but I though google broke this in the newest update.
They did.
This method is over a year old. Next time search the forum before posting your out-dated "discovery".
Technically they broke it only for Google Voice. What makes Android so special is that someone else created a program, one of which is called "Google Voice Callback" that lets those of us who have a Fav 5 list still call everyone for free using Google Voice, even with the update.
TL;DR The trick still works, just use a program like Google Voice Callback (FREE in the Market)
Vonage for Facebook is free voip.
www.androidappjudge.com has a link to their site (shameless site plug)
Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't flaming. Just informing. Your post, on the other hand, was burning hot. Calm down, it's the internet.
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Paul22000 said:
10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
yozpalang said:
if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
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But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
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But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
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Sorry my my bad but it is only $20 a year
Does this work in canada...
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Sip calling?
There is another way to do it without the myfaves if you use sipdroid or another program similar. You have to set yourself up with a sip number, which is free on a couple of sites (using sipgate currently).
Then set up your Google Voice callback, this lets you select whether you want to use the wifi(or 3g) calling. For incoming calls you can also force them to go to your free number.
I'm sure there are some good tutorials around if you need more info.
I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
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I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
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This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
Paul22000 said:
This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
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Glad this helped you out. I tried to explain each and every step so there was no room for error. I never ran into issues with wifi connections at home, starbucks, airports, hotels, but im guessing your work blocked alot of ports.
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The guides listed here are extremely dated.
Not all services mentioned allow new users, and some now require a subscription. Also, the process has been simplified greatly since the creation of these tutorials.
I recommend using an application such as Groove IP to connect directly to Gtalk rather than bounce the call all over the place to different SIP providers.
Trying to find a way to verify GV w/o a active U.S. phone number? This info will still work for that, but you have to use IPKall routed to PBXes extension w/ "info" as DTMF type on (pbxes extension) settings.
Planning to do something more interesting like route multiple gv#s to one place? Than the info might still be useful to you, but only as a point of reference.
These instructions will explain how to get Sipdroid and Google Voice set up so you can use your Android phone with only WiFi or 3g/Edge (no cellular minutes). It also provides a solution to get Google Voice accounts validated for people who lack a US phone number.
Alright I guess these guides were a little more popular than expected. Kept exceeding bandwidth limits for the images, so I had to move 'em.
If you would like to view the original guides please visit my blog
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These instructions will explain how to get Sipdroid and Google Voice set up so you can use your Android phone with only WIFI or 3g/Edge. It also provides a solution to get Google Voice accounts validated for people who lack a US phome number.
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While I didn't personally use the method myself, a post on the Google Voice discussion forum said you can perform your verification call on a Gizmo number (receive it by logging into the flash client at gizmo5.com)
The first time I set up an ipkall DID, it took a week. Kind of annoying.
Due to bandwidth limits causing the images to go down, I have moved the guides.
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Huh? I tried to use Gizmo to confirm my wife's account a couple weeks ago, and Google Voice said a Landline or Mobile had to be used as the primary forwarding number. If they have in fact changed their policy regarding this, its great news for international users. Maybe someone with a fresh account would be kind enough to give it a try and bless us with the results. Either way thanks for the info.
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Well, I read that information roughly a month ago so it could have been changed. On Gizmo's gizmovoice.com page, they state that a user can buy a 6-month DID number to accept the GV confirmation call, so I guess its probable that a Gizmo number cannot be used for confirmation.
It's a shame it took so long for ipkall to get back to you. It usually does take a day or two, but a week is awful. Then again waiting 6-8 months for a Google Voice invite is a tad bit more irritating (but still well worth it)
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Well it was before I even got my GV invite, mainly just as experimentation for getting my SIP setup. Free is free, so I wasn't really concerned.
By the way, I have updated the Sipdroid primer a little. Might make some more tweaks/update the sample pics later.
This is a great tutorial! I'm currently using just the gizmo5 + GV setup, what are the advantages to your way? I am assuming the 3 minute outgoing call limit is gone, but is there anything else?
My #1 complaint with the gizmo5 + GV method (and this may be Sipdroid's fault) is that it seems if I don't make or recieve a call for a few hours... maybe a day... then sipdroid sort of times out, disconnects, and I miss calls even though sipdroid still shows the green connected light. I'm just curious if getting away from gizmo5 would fix this? Thanks!
This is a great tutorial! I'm currently using just the gizmo5 + GV setup, what are the advantages to your way? I am assuming the 3 minute outgoing call limit is gone, but is there anything else?
My #1 complaint with the gizmo5 + GV method (and this may be Sipdroid's fault) is that it seems if I don't make or recieve a call for a few hours... maybe a day... then sipdroid sort of times out, disconnects, and I miss calls even though sipdroid still shows the green connected light. I'm just curious if getting away from gizmo5 would fix this? Thanks!
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Thank you, and yes you are correct about the 3 minute limit, but you don't have to leave gizmo for that. Just set GV as default dialer and set call method to Call-Back in GV (Be sure to set gizmo # as callback in GV app). Other than that Gizmo5 charged for callerID at the time I set mine up, and I had alot of choppy calls when using them (even using X-Ten and Ekiga from pc). Also Google Voice did not (and I'm not sure if they do yet) allow a Gizmo # to be default forward. Using IPkall gives you a true US # which can be set as default and used to validate g.v. account. People who don't have a US # couldn't even forward to Gizmo until a default US land or mobile number was set.
As far as missed calls and sipdroid timing out, I believe it depends on how you are connecting. I haven't had any trouble with such issues while on 3g. In fact I use this as my only method of calling, and dropped down to just the data plan with my carrier. Before we got 3g where I live I would have similar problems on EDGE and WIFI networks. Try setting the minimum signal strength lower for the networks you will be using under advanced settings on sipdroid. Also be sure to use TCP rather than UDP. Required refresh time is alot longer with TCP and you will not get as many time-outs.
Another thing is it may very well be gizmo5 causing the timeout issue. I did miss a few calls and got alot more disconnects while I was testing to see if I could cut out a few legs of my forwarding scheme. Figured it would cut back on a little latancy, but It gave me issues so I switched back. Though Sipdroid supports any sip provider that uses the proper codecs, it is really designed to work well with PBXes. I have tried it with 4-5 providers and none worked as well as PBXes. Even gizmo5 worked better through PBXes than directly connecting from sipdroid.
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sorry about that
ive gotten this setup correctly (i think), but i cannot get the pbxes->sipdroid part working.
if i call my ipkall number, i see the call register in sip2sip, and i see it in the history in pbxes.
sipdroid connects to pbxes fine, and the extension shows up as active. the call just never makes it to sipdroid
if i call from sipdroid OUT, i get a message that says please try again later and hangs up
maleman876 said:
ive gotten this setup correctly (i think), but i cannot get the pbxes->sipdroid part working.
if i call my ipkall number, i see the call register in sip2sip, and i see it in the history in pbxes.
sipdroid connects to pbxes fine, and the extension shows up as active. the call just never makes it to sipdroid
if i call from sipdroid OUT, i get a message that says please try again later and hangs up
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I too get this same error my phone wont ring and then I recive an email that says i got a voice mail!!??
how to fix ths pls!!
(NEVERMIND I GOT IT WORKING NOW!!!!)
maleman876 said:
ive gotten this setup correctly (i think), but i cannot get the pbxes->sipdroid part working.
if i call my ipkall number, i see the call register in sip2sip, and i see it in the history in pbxes.
sipdroid connects to pbxes fine, and the extension shows up as active. the call just never makes it to sipdroid
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There may be a problem with inbound routing settings. One thing you could try would be to skip sip2sip by forwarding ipkall directly to your pbxes extension. There are instructions on how to do this at pbxes. It works quite well. I will add this to the guide soon. I've just been a little busy lately.
if i call from sipdroid OUT, i get a message that says please try again later and hangs up
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There are quite a few things that could cause this.
What type of call are you trying to make? (are you calling another sip# or a pstn#)
Which sip provider do you use for outbound calls?
Is your outbound route configured properly at pbxes?
I just let GV handle the outbound calls with callback. I have a sipdiscount account configured for outbound, but I don't really use it much. That's why I didn't cover it in the guide. I'll help as much as I can, but you might also want to check out the Sipdroid Primer. It explains alot about using sipdroid to place calls.
Pbxes webstie not working for me amy.one else getting this issue!?
Sipdroid+Gizmo+GV on Android
Hello,
First, thanks for your hard work enabling GV to work on an Android phone, like my unlocked G1 Dev Phone on AT&T EDGE in NYC.
I tried a different route, using Gizmo, Sipdroid, and GV. I set up GV to "use Google Voice for all calls", "call back" method, and WIFI and EDGE for connecting.
It all works just fine, calls to Canada are crystal clear, even away from WIFI on EDGE.
However, I just got my first wireless bill for this DATA ONLY phone (formerly a Blackberry), and was shocked that a 23-minute call to Canada cost me $16.00!
What happened?
Will your method fix the "free" nature of this system, is Gizmo the culprit here?
Please define how I should set up my data-only G1 to work properly with SIP, or do I just undo all the settings for Gizmo, and use the procedures you advise in your post?
Thank you!
if you use google voice....your not talking over the net...your talking over your cell line.
These instructions will explain how to get Sipdroid and Google Voice set up so you can use your Android phone with only WIFI or 3g/Edge. It also provides a solution to get Google Voice accounts validated for people who lack a US phome number.
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so...follow the instructions
divinicus said:
However, I just got my first wireless bill for this DATA ONLY phone (formerly a Blackberry), and was shocked that a 23-minute call to Canada cost me $16.00!
What happened?
Thank you!
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Sounds like your google voice also forwarded to your cell number. Make sure it's unchecked on their website under settings > phones. That would also explain why you got perfect calls even away from wifi/edge. You can be sure sipdroid is being used by the color of the call display. If it's a more blueish green it's a sip call. Regular green is cellular network.
OK guys sorry for the complete noobness ahead of time but I have no idea how this stuff works but I'm very interested in it. First of all my scenario is I'm going to be moving to the Philippines for nursing school next year and I want to keep in touch with my family while taking my unlocked G1 with me. I have a Google Voice number and a Gizmo5 account. I saw on the Gizmo5 site that I can't make calls for free but I can receive calls and talk as long as I like for free, I think... Say I'm receiving a call from the US when I'm in the Philippines and I answer. Are they dialing my SIP number or my GV number? And if they're calling my GV number are they being charged for standard domestic calling since it's a Houston #? Basically what I'm looking for is to use my Google Voice number and Gizmo5 account to talk to my family here for free while I'm in the Philippines without them being charged for long distance calls.
Could anyone help me out with this?
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OK guys sorry for the complete noobness ahead of time but I have no idea how this stuff works but I'm very interested in it. First of all my scenario is I'm going to be moving to the Philippines for nursing school next year and I want to keep in touch with my family while taking my unlocked G1 with me. I have a Google Voice number and a Gizmo5 account. I saw on the Gizmo5 site that I can't make calls for free but I can receive calls and talk as long as I like for free, I think... Say I'm receiving a call from the US when I'm in the Philippines and I answer. Are they dialing my SIP number or my GV number? And if they're calling my GV number are they being charged for standard domestic calling since it's a Houston #? Basically what I'm looking for is to use my Google Voice number and Gizmo5 account to talk to my family here for free while I'm in the Philippines without them being charged for long distance calls.
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I set sipdroid up using gizmo5 and here's what I did
verify your gizmo through google voice then set google voice to forward incoming calls to your gizmo number
On the gizmo website you can set your google phone number as the outgoing ptsn just use the google voice tab and enter your gv # now all outgoing calls are free to any US #
Now setup your siddroid info username/password is gizmo username or phone # and your password
set your server to proxy01.sipphone.com
leave domain empty
port =5060
protocol = udp
and your done, now your friends, family can call your local number and it will forward all your calls to your phone anywhere with a internet connection and you can also make calls to any US number for free using the same connection
Hi:
Can I get back to using ipkall and pbxes in combo? It is not clear how to set this up. What exactly should I put in the 'SIP Phone Number' and 'SIP Proxy" fields?
hallevison said:
Hi:
Can I get back to using ipkall and pbxes in combo? It is not clear how to set this up. What exactly should I put in the 'SIP Phone Number' and 'SIP Proxy" fields?
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Your sip phone number would be your pbxes extension
Example: gurnted-200
Sip Proxy would be: pbxes.com (.org works too but not as well)
On the gizmo website you can set your google phone number as the outgoing ptsn just use the google voice tab and enter your gv # now all outgoing calls are free to any US #
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Does the time limit no longer apply for Gizmo outgoing? I stopped using them when I got 2 days of choppy calls (both on sipdroid and pc softphone) and havn't been back since. Have they changed it so out calls through Google Voice are unlimited? Also it uses udp which needs to refresh 10x as often. The developer of sipdroid says this causes excessive battery drain. How well is it working for you?
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if you use gv....your not talking over the net...your talking over your cell line.
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To clarify. If you use the "Google Voice" app developed by Google you are indeed using your cell line. However, if one uses the "GV" app developed by Evan Charlton you are able to set callback number to whatever you choose. By choosing IPKall # as callback and forwarding it to a sip account, calls are made over the net/data plan through Sipdroid.
So I've been researching how deaf and hearing impaired people use Android phones to make communication easier and, in this process, I've been checking on which carriers offer special plans for such users.
Apparently Sprint has a $29.99 a month plan that is data only, and unlimited data at that.
http://www.sprintrelaystore.com/data_only_plan.htm
Yes, it's intended for users who will be using their Relay service (to make voice calls by typing text etc.) But they don't restrict it to such purposes.
Interesting.
You can get a Moment or Hero on such a plan if you open a new line. Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what everyone thinks of it. Maybe some of our Sprint employees can explain more of how this plan works to us?
What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?
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What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?
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In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.
It's funny I was chatting with sprint about this exact same. thing last night. If I could just figure out how to receive calls I will switch to this in a heartbeat. We only use about 400 of the 1500 minutes. And still pay for all of them it seems wasteful.
You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.
would skype work over the data connection?
Or is it the same as google voice where a voice call is still required?
Last i tried skype it was beta for android and it worked loke gvoice, not voip for us yet.
I'm pretty tied to GV and it requires a voice line. Would me nice to use SIP/VOIP if possible though.
skype-to-skype calling works with Fring, and it also has a SIP plugin, although I haven't tried it.
I read on another forum that some people get cheaper featurephones with cheap voice only plans and then get something like an SRDO plan with an Android handset.
Apparently they like separating out the functions... weird to me.
[Accidental double post. Sorry.]
GVoice forwards to Gizmo which can be setup as a the SIP provider in SIPDroid. The Guava project has something like this setup, I don't know much about it beyond its intent. I use SIP/Gizmo as a landline replacement at home via a GVoice number and it works beautifully. My tests with SIP on 3G/2G were less impressive, I don't think it's a "prime time" solution just yet.
In theory this is where cells will go eventually, a data connection and nothing more, no per-minute or per-transaction services, it will be more like an ISP. Data, text, chat, voice, apps, etc, will be delivered on the same pipe. We're practically there now. Add tethering to the mix and this could be the ONLY data pipe you need.
I have use the whole GV + Sipsorcery + sipdroid setup because I don't get reception at my house, so my I use my hero for wifi calls while at home. Most of the time, no one notices the difference. But I think it depends on how many people are using the internet in my area because sometimes there is a delay on the line, but a lot of other times there isn't. For some reason, it actually works better for me when I am using evdo instead of wifi. All of my friends have told me that I sound better while using sipdroid vs the sprint network. Kind of weird.
To that end, my friend brought his t-mobile android over. He is on their data only plan and since he lives in downtown St. Louis the he always has a data connection. So his bill is SUPER cheap by doing all of this and he is raving about it. He never turns his wifi on and uses the same setup as me. He claims he never has any problems, the only drawback being his battery drains faster now.
I wouldn't tell people to just start doing this though because I still encounter problems. Such as I my phone will only ring once and sometimes not at all. It is being routed through three services and like I said, there is a delay sometimes. But then again, sometimes I will go a whole week with it working PERFECTLY.
Maybe someone here might have some advice the proper setup to make this more stable for me. Otherwise I am going to pursue that airave device.
I'll point out again that Sprint's primary purpose in having the SRDO plans is for deaf or hearing impaired users who don't need voice service.
However, it is an interesting idea for those of us who like to tinker, too (=
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You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.
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thanks
gomorrah said:
In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.
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False. Google Voice does not include the capability--technologically or otherwise--to carry voice calls over either data or voice bands (...yet; i say "yet" because it seems only natural that a tech-conglomerate like Google might go this route in the future. They've annouced no such plans)
You could use Skype/Fring.
So, in theory:
I could open a new line with this on my old Diamond for ICS only?
I'm reviving an ancient thread here, but, as @flexgrip alluded to above, if you can get a gizmo5 account and a sipsorcery account, someone on a data-only plan can have 100% free voip using your Google Voice number.
You just need to forward your GV calls to gizmo5. Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, but what you can do is setup a sipsorcery account, and route your incoming calls from gizmo (free), but use google voice for your outgoing calls (also free). Now you just use your sipsorcery account as the sip provider in sipdroid. People you call will see your GV # as caller ID, and, of course, calls people place to your Google Voice number will be routed to you.
Gizmo5 accounts (no longer accepting new registrations) can be bought for less than $10 on ebay. Sipsorcery wasn't (temporarily) taking new registrations either the last I checked, but I'm guessing these can be had if you look in the right place as well.
Sipsorcery can have a bit of a learning curve, but there are ready-made tutorials on setting up gizmo5 + GV in sipsorcery online. It's a one-time setup.
Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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aven_soulgazer said:
Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, and plus they've disabled the service they used to have that lets you show a custom number (like your GV #) as your outgoing caller ID.
So unless you want to use voice minutes or go on the web for outgoing calls . . .
Sipsorcery allows you to create a singular sip account that receives the incoming GV>gizmo forward, while making outgoing calls directly from Google Voice (which, of course, is free and posts the same number for caller ID).
Unless there's a new way I'm not aware of, this was what I learned when I was obsessed with finding the cheapest way to make data calls a while back.
I have my gv # on my friends and family list. I guess this means I'm using minutes when I use gv to dial out.
Does anyone know how this works?
You will want to download the "Google Voice" app from the Droid Marketplace. Also if you search these forums there are how-to's on how to set it up to replace your Verizon voicemail as well as using it to call out/have calls come in. If you need more help after that let me know (also I would happy to take a GV invite off your hands if you have one to spare =p, *note* I will continue to help you regardless ).
I've already downloaded that app and I love how it works except for not using my local gv number when I dial out. It seems to use a random, simi-local number each time.
You've got an invite either way. PM me your email address and I'll figure out how to send the invitation.
Thanks for your help.
DeeBG said:
You will want to download the "Google Voice" app from the Droid Marketplace. Also if you search these forums there are how-to's on how to set it up to replace your Verizon voicemail as well as using it to call out/have calls come in. If you need more help after that let me know (also I would happy to take a GV invite off your hands if you have one to spare =p, *note* I will continue to help you regardless ).
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Just wondering, I'm not sure if this is related to your issue, but did you have caller ID blocked in any way before/during setting up GV?
Edit: Also for making outgoing calls, are you calling your GV number and then dialing out from there? Using that method or calling directly from your computer SHOULD make your GV number appear when you call someone (the GV app is suppose to do this for you, btw if you need help testing this I can PM you my phone number... free weekend mins and all =p).
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Another thing you can try is going to https://www.google.com/voice/#callsettings and setting the "Caller ID (out)" to your GV number. This might force GV to display the correct number. What it sounds like they are doing now is drawing from a pool of random numbers in the area (for whatever reason, I don't know why) that they control and routing your call through them.
From what I have read, there is no way to dial straight out through gv. You have to dial your own gv number and use the #2 option.
I think I had a Window's Mobile app on my Touch Pro that did that for me.
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Another thing you can try is going to https://www.google.com/voice/#callsettings and setting the "Caller ID (out)" to your GV number.
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No, right under that option it says this:
"Note: this setting currently only applies to text messages; calls will be included soon."
gentleart said:
From what I have read, there is no way to dial straight out through gv. You have to dial your own gv number and use the #2 option.
I think I had a Window's Mobile app on my Touch Pro that did that for me.
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That's not how it works with the native Android app. It's much quicker/easier and it dials some other "special" number, not your own GV number.
lexluthor said:
That's not how it works with the native Android app. It's much quicker/easier and it dials some other "special" number, not your own GV number.
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
My GVoice app seems to dial the same number every time. When you start a call using your GVoice number, just look at the pop up that says "Calling via Google Voice ###-###-####' and add that to your Verizon Friends & Family numbers. Your bill will show that you call that number over and over, so all outgoing calls are free. Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
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Hey gentleart sorry for the late reply, I've been afk for a couple days thanks to my gf working the front desk at a Pediatrician's office x.x (curse those snot-bubbling runts, we went through 30 packs of ramen noodles and tea in the last few days =p).
I didn't notice that "Caller ID (out)" only applied to text, I wrote that before I had access to GV and that was a recommendation I read on their board. Even if that were true for making phone calls though, it might not solve your problem. I'll make a thread on the Google Voice help site about this specific problem though (I'll PM you the link once the post is up) and if an answer arises out of it, I'll post it back in this forum for public knowledge (BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! ugh sorry... x.x).
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Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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J/W, under Google Voice's "Calls" settings, have you tried changing "Caller ID (in)" to "Display my Google Voice number"? For some reason I have a feeling that you would still get billed for the incoming call (I can't wait until cell phones work like landlines) plus you wouldn't know who was calling (possibly forcing you to talk with relatives or even worse... ex-significant others x.x).
If you are a heavy enough phone user to need this you would probably want to switch to the unlimited plan, but I'm just curious how it would work with Verizon. For now though, I'm going to try and figure out why some people are getting multiple outgoing GV numbers when using the Android app (I think if you are in a heavily populated area - by GV users at least - that it might just cycle you out to another number... but there should be a way to force it to use your number without having to dial manually).
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My GVoice app seems to dial the same number every time. When you start a call using your GVoice number, just look at the pop up that says "Calling via Google Voice ###-###-####' and add that to your Verizon Friends & Family numbers. Your bill will show that you call that number over and over, so all outgoing calls are free. Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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This is what I did, and I can confirm that all outgoing calls are free. I also added my GV number to my "10" so that when family calls it's included. Unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it too, your incoming calls will be charged minutes just like they've always been. I just have it go to my work phone while I'm at work, and answer it for free using my land line.
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I have my gv # on my friends and family list. I guess this means I'm using minutes when I use gv to dial out.
Does anyone know how this works?
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Install Google Voice Callback. This routes your calls via the web for dialing purposes and then google voice calls you back. Now outgoing calls are free if you have friends and family, and incoming calls are free if someone calls your google voice number.
You still have to have a pretty high priced contract with Verizon to get friends and family though.
For fear of sounding like an idiot I just have to ask.. I got a Google invite finally and now I'm not sure what I want to do. I really need to keep my current cell number because I have a billion business cards with this number, but I want the awesome voicemail service. I'm guessing I should choose the Voice Mail option only and I will not lose my current number? Does this sound about right?
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
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The number you see pop up when you dial should actually be the same each time. You should put that number in your friends and family and then using google voice out should not use minutes.
This may help, put this text in a Google search and take the top link
site:lifehacker.com google voice free
Anybody have any luck with using skype to make phone calls on the Archos 70? I have been thinking about switching off my phone data plan and getting a mifi hotspot instead and using my tablet to make phone calls or maybe just getting a cheap feature phone with no data (I rarely make calls).
I have Skype set up on the tablet but they want $16 or so to set up a phone number and the first three months etc and I don't want to put that out if it doesn't work the way I expect. I have been able to install it but without a phone number, I can't use it for much..
You can't use skype with sip providers afaik, so tough luck on that. May want to check about using sipdroid/ipkall?/pbxes/gv instead.
I have played a little with sipdroid and I can connect outside calls using my google voice number but I couldn't figure out how to make the tablet receive incoming calls.
I haven't been able to find a good noob step by step guide to getting it set up.
Instead of skyle, why don't you check an app called gvdialer, you can make free US Canada calls.
You will need google voice, gizmo5 or sip service and sipdroid.
I have been using it and it is working very good.
richdaley said:
I have played a little with sipdroid and I can connect outside calls using my google voice number but I couldn't figure out how to make the tablet receive incoming calls.
I haven't been able to find a good noob step by step guide to getting it set up.
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Sipdroid have some pbxes set up automation which you may want to explore before you do the following. Someone mentioned that pbxes can do google voice callback too (Which I saw was only for premium account, but he said its not.) Do tell if you got that working, which I would love to do (to cut sipsorcery from my chain)
Okay, here's a quick and easy method.
Step1: Register an ipkall number, add it to google voice. If it fail, delete the ipkall number and try again (maybe different ipkall area code) til it want to verify.
Step 2: This is an easy UDP method (but will run your battery out faster): sign up at sip2sip.info, and put in your sip2sip phone number/sip domain name(sip2sip.info) to the ipkall configuration page.
I recommend learning about pbxes and using it instead of sip2sip though. It's more powerful and allow tcp connection (sap less resource). but it never hurt to make it work with sip2sip first.
Step 3: Connect to sip2sip using sipdroid (you really only need the sip2sip.info domain name, sip address, password.
Step 4 (optional): Test by calling your ipkall number and see if it reach your phone
Step 5: Verify your ipkall number through google voice. (Use gizmo or skype or real phone or some tone generator if you need to emulate a proper tone sound)
Step 6: Get one of the available google voice callback dialer, and a dialer app like 'dialer one'.
You should be all set up. If it's not clear enough do mention it. I just wrote it on the spot, so...
I'm going through ipkall -> sipsorcery -> pbxes -> sipdroid right now myself.
Thanks for the info MoonPhatasm. Unfortunately, I am such a noob when it comes to the actual phone capabilities of these devices that I am lost. I have signed up for a sip2sip.info number and an ipkall number. I have google voice and sipdroid installed. Where do I go from here? When I try to add the number to google voice, I get a force close.
Ok, here is where I am...
I was able to create all the accounts and I finally found an ipkall number that was not rejected by Google voice. Right now, the number appears but it has to be called and a code has to be entered for it to be reclaimed. Since I don't have the phone working yet, I don't know if that is possible.
I have sipdroid installed and I entered the sip2sip.info username, proxy etc into it and the green light appears in the task bar. When I try to make an outgoing call, the screen comes up like it was going to make a call but then the slider automatically goes down and ends the call. I am also not able to connect an incoming call.
I had set up the quick connection between google voice and pbxes within sipdroid and I was able to make outgoing calls. I deleted that information though because I wasn't sure if it was relevant. If I can use it, I wrote it down so I could reenter it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I finally got this to work in the most simple way possible and it is awesome. All you need is sipdroid and the google voice app installed on your phone (and obviously a google voice account).
To set it up:
1. On a computer, open google voice, go to settings --> voice settings and check the checkbox next to Google Chat.
2. Open sipdroid and click on New PBX linked to my google voice (google voice needs to be installed and signed in on the phone)
3. A screen will come up for you to create your account. Your google voice email address should appear on this screen. Just fill in the other information.
4. Click Create
5. After a few minutes, a green dot will appear in the notification bar to indicate that sipdroid is active.
That's all I did.
If you don't have anyone around to call you for testing, you can use this site:
http://www.wheresmycellphone.com/
Rich
richdaley said:
Ok, here is where I am...
I was able to create all the accounts and I finally found an ipkall number that was not rejected by Google voice. Right now, the number appears but it has to be called and a code has to be entered for it to be reclaimed. Since I don't have the phone working yet, I don't know if that is possible.
I have sipdroid installed and I entered the sip2sip.info username, proxy etc into it and the green light appears in the task bar. When I try to make an outgoing call, the screen comes up like it was going to make a call but then the slider automatically goes down and ends the call. I am also not able to connect an incoming call.
I had set up the quick connection between google voice and pbxes within sipdroid and I was able to make outgoing calls. I deleted that information though because I wasn't sure if it was relevant. If I can use it, I wrote it down so I could reenter it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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You didn't follow everything.
First of all, the guide I wrote said to install gv callback dialer and dialerone. They're what you use to make outgoing calls. You may have to set the gv callback dialer to always be used for calling, and set your ipkall number there.
Secondly, verifying the ipkall phone number is on step 5, which is to be done AFTER you have the phone incoming call working (Tested by calling the ipkall number using another phone).
But interesting on that google voice/chat thing, and I'll have to check that.
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You didn't follow everything.
First of all, the guide I wrote said to install gv callback dialer and dialerone. They're what you use to make outgoing calls. You may have to set the gv callback dialer to always be used for calling, and set your ipkall number there.
Secondly, verifying the ipkall phone number is on step 5, which is to be done AFTER you have the phone incoming call working (Tested by calling the ipkall number using another phone).
But interesting on that google voice/chat thing, and I'll have to check that.
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Oops, I was trying to test the outgoing calls without setting up dialerone and then assuming something was broken when I actually had it set up correctly.
Either way, thanks for you help. My new "phone" is working awesome with GV, PBXes, and sipdroid.
Yw, and thanks for making me test out that automated set up again. I was suspecting that sipdroid users gets to make special accounts with google voice set up on the pbxes. It's confirmed now. That google voice peering is normally for paid users only... But for some reason with the automatic set up, we also get it...
Grats about the phone
anyone tried this apk on Archos?
villainrom.co.uk/SGS2/skype045.php
There is a new version on the Market as of today (or yesterday)? But it says
Video calling now supported on more Android phones. See the What’s New section for full handset list...
If you're using Android 2.2 (Froyo) or greater on a device not listed in the What's New section, you should still be able to enable video calling in Skype settings. Please note that video call quality may not be as good as on a certified device.
On Android 2.2 (Froyo), only the back camera will work. This is because only devices running Android OS 2.3 or higher allow apps to access the front facing camera.
If the setting to enable video calling is not available in the Skype Settings on your device that means video calling is not yet supported on your phone.
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I gave it a try with Archos 70, since it has no Rear camera to see, but still no joy. No video support at all.
there must be a way
at least we get the option. My commtiva m600 has 2 cameras but runs 2.1 so skype doesn't support it. We either need a genius developer or patience, I'm sure it won't be long.
The new Skype for android can only access the rear camera. So we would need to re-label it as such. Or Skype would need to recognize only on camera if only one exists regardless of label.
I know how to view hardware on my Archos, but changing the label so apps see it as the "rear" camera..... no clue yet.
OK, I have been testing a few different sip providers since hearing gizmo5 is on life support and the plug being pulled in april...
Keep in mind that ANY sip provider can be used (you just need to know the credentials)
So for example, if you have at&t uverse voip telephone, then you can set it up on your nexus s (as well as your cable provider voip or magic jack)
I don't use those, so I can't tell you how to do it, but it is all the same...
instructions
-download sipdroid from the market
-run sipdroid and click "New PBX linked to my Google Voice"
-enter username and password (note if you already have a pbxes account delete it or choose a new username)
-delete/uninstall sipdroid (you no longer need it because gingerbread can do voip natively, you just needed it to configure your pbxes account)
-now go to your phone settings/ call settings/ accounts
add account
username- your name/nickname-200
password- check pbxes for password(same as pbxes under extensions-sipdroid<200>)
server- pbxes.org
[set as primary]
couple things to note- to receive incoming calls check the box, but as it says, battery life will be reduced
with cm7, "internet" calls can be placed over 3g...so using this option all your calls can be free* ...every thing goes through google voice
add "some" personal data so they realize it is not a "drone" account
advanced "not working for free accounts"
go to pbxes.org and sign up for a free account
after you finish entering and verifying log out and log back in
go to the left hand side and click extensions and "add extension" then "sip"
Add SIP Extension
Extension Number: 200
Display Name: your name (or nickname)
Webcall not used
URL: http://pbxes.org/
Text:
Image:
Latitude:
Longitude:
Device Options
password whatever you want
Voicemail & Directory: to link gv
voicemail password: google voice password
email address: [email protected]
email attachment: yes no
Play CID: yes no
Play Envelope: yes no
Play Next: yes no
Delete Vmail: yes no
vm options:
submit and save
NEXT
click on trunks, then add trunks and select sip
at the end of the URL it will have =SIP change this to =GTALK and hit enter (see below)
https://www2.pbxes.com/config.php?display=6&tech=GTALK
enter google username and password and save
Add inbound and outbound routing
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gizmo R.I.P.
Ok it has been two days and no one has ported over the tmobile wifi calling apk so I decided to do some research and get the native wifi (internet) calling working
this is a tutorial that has been done before for the nexus one using sipdroid...but we don't need that app for the NS.
not only does it work very good, but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
1- you need to get a sip client, there are many out there (I tried a bunch with no success), so I ended up using gizmo5
(gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
2-Log into https://my.gizmo5.com -> Change email -> Change password -> Write down your Sip Number and username
3-on you phone go to settings/call settings/(internet call settings at bottom)accounts/add account
4-username: Gizmo username
password: Gizmo password
server: proxy01.sipphone.com
set as primary account (check)
*optional settings all remain default
5-after you back out it will save the setting and verify the account you can check receive incoming calls (needed for connecting google voice) and how you "use internet calling" as well
thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
for added convenience connect gizmo to your google voice (needed for free calls as well)
6-go to https://www.google.com/voice
go to Settings > Phones
click "Add another phone"
name: Gizmo
number: +1747(gizmo5 #)
phone type: Gizmo
*verify the number
for free outgoing calls one more step is needed..
7-go to the market and download "google voice callback free" (or donate version)
8-enter your gmail address and password
-enter callback number-"gizmo number"
-check auto-answer the callback
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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how to: DETAILED 100% FREE Wifi/VoIP calling set up
I decided to write up this EXTREMELY DETAILED “step by step guide for dummies” on how to set up everything you need WITHOUT HAVING TO PURCHASE ANYTHING (ie. a Gizmo5 account off ebay, or calling minutes/credits)” to be able to place AND receive calls COMPLETLY FREE using WiFi. I’ve noticed that there are quite a few people here that are pretty lost, in regards to setting up this really cool feature on their Nexus S.... so I hope that this detailed “how to” clears up most all of the confusion. Not to mention that this is a 100% TOTALLY FREE way to set this feature (where as the other “how to’s” require that you buy a Gizmo5 account if you don’t already have one).
All you need is:
- your Nexus S (or any other WiFi enabled phone, I guess).
- a FREE Sipgate account
- a FREE Google Voice account (which you should have already anyways).
- the “Google Voice Callback FREE” app (free).
1 - Go to Sipgate.com and sign up for the free account (this will give you free incoming calls)
2 - Once your done setting up your account, click on “settings”.
3 - Click on “Sip Credentials” on the right hand side of the page.
4 - All the information you need to enter into your phone will be here.
5 - Get your phone, turn on WiFi (if not already done so), & go into your phone’s “Settings” …then “Accounts” (under the Internet Call Settings).
6 - Click “Add Account”.
7 - For your username, enter the “SIP-ID” which is shown on the “Sip Credentials” page (see step 3 & 4 above) ****NOTE: this is NOT the user name that you chose when you signed up with Sipgate, this “username” is generated & chosen for you by Sipgate****.
8 - For your password, enter the “SIP-Password” which is shown on the “Sip Credentials” page (see step 3 & 4 above) ****NOTE: this is NOT the password that you chose when you signed up with Sipgate, this “password” is generated & chosen for you by Sipgate****.
9 - For your Server, enter “sipgate.com”.
10 - UN-CHECK the “Set as primary account” box (used for outbound calls)..... that is, unless you DON’T want to use the Google Voice Callback app to be able to place calls for free too (steps 14 &15 below).
11 - Press the “back” button on your phone (which will save the info), and CHECK the box that says “Receive incoming calls” (reduces battery life).
12 - Under “SIP accounts” (on the same screen, on your phone), you will see your username @sipgate.com, and underneath it, the status of your connection will be displayed. It should say “receiving calls” (which means that everything is set up right & you are ready to go!!).
13 - Go to your Google Voice account & add your new Sipgate phone number to your Google Voice account (I believe that you can chose whatever “phone type” you want from the dropdown box, except for Gizmo). Verify the number (you will receive your first FREE WiFi call, from Google Voice).
14 - Now open up your “Android Market” and search for “Google Voice Callback FREE”. Download & install it. Once installed, it will be titled “GVoice Callback” in your apps list.
15 - Set up GVoice Callback according to your own personal preferences. Just make sure that you select your new Sipgate phone number as the “Callback Number”. Also check the “Offical GV app compatibility” box. I also checked the “Auto-answer the callback” box (though I don’t think this is necessarily required).
16 - Finally, exit out of that & go back into your phone’s settings. Go to “Additional settings” and just make sure that the “Call waiting” box is checked.
17 - And you’re done!! You can now place AND receive FREE phone calls using WiFi (through your Google Voice number).
****NOTE: One thing that I’ve noticed is that GVoice Callback only works on 10-digit phone numbers -so just make sure that you’ve included the area code in the phone number of all your local contacts if you want to be able to call them using GVoice Callback****
****ADDITIONAL NOTE: If you have been connected to WiFi for a while, and are trying to make a WiFi call, but you aren't getting a call back from Google Voice (you are stuck on the screen that says "waiting for call back").... just go back into your phone, and go to: "Settings" then "Accounts" (under Internet call settings), and then UN-CHECK the "Receive incoming calls" box. Wait a second or two, and then RE-CHECK the box. Also, try turning off & then on again your GV Callback app. After toggling these two things off & then back on again, you should be able to make the call & be connected relatively quickly (within a couple seconds)****
****ONE MORE THING OF NOTE: It has become apparent that, at times, the party which you are calling will hear an echo of their own voice, when using this set up. Perhaps a different SIP provider will resolve this issue?? Either way, I hope that this guide at least clarifies the process of setting something like this up. If a better method (better SIP provider, etc) is found, be sure to let me know****
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I was going to purchase a sipp account today but i had no money in my paypal tomorrow i will
Thaanks ! I just tried it and it works great.
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
Wheres the sip phone icon? I have it set to only call for internet calls. In the google demos, it actually shows a second phone icon with "sip" written on it. Where is that? Only getting it to work if its set to choose everytime or always
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ogdobber said:
Ok it has been two days and no one has ported over the tmobile wifi calling apk so I decided to do some research and get the native wifi (internet) calling working
this is a tutorial that has been done before for the nexus one using sipdroid...but we don't need that app for the NS.
not only does it work very good, but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
1- you need to get a sip client, there are many out there (I tried a bunch with no success), so I ended up using gizmo5
(gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
2-Log into https://my.gizmo5.com -> Change email -> Change password -> Write down your Sip Number and username
3-on you phone go to settings/call settings/(internet call settings at bottom)accounts/add account
4-username: Gizmo username
password: Gizmo password
server: proxy01.sipphone.com
set as primary account (check)
*optional settings all remain default
5-after you back out it will save the setting and verify the account you can check receive incoming calls and how you "use internet calling" as well
thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
for added convenience connect gizmo to your google voice (needed for free calls as well)
6-go to https://www.google.com/voice
go to Settings > Phones
click "Add another phone"
name: Gizmo
number: +1747(gizmo5 #)
phone type: Gizmo
*verify the number
for free outgoing calls one more step is needed..
7-go to the market and download "google voice callback free" (or donate version)
8-enter your gmail address and password
-enter callback number-"gizmo number"
-check auto-answer the callback
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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Oggs you have more moves than a chess board lol
JD
zachthemaster said:
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
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Think this could get figured out in the next 10 days? If not, I have to seriously consider taking this phone back. I don't get cell coverage at my house.
ugh....
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
zachthemaster said:
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
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the tmo apk won't work without a kernel that supports it, the lib files and a build prop mod...no, the tmobile uma client uses your cell minutes...this does not, it is pure voip
JupiterDroid said:
Oggs you have more moves than a chess board lol
JD
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b84cops said:
Think this could get figured out in the next 10 days? If not, I have to seriously consider taking this phone back. I don't get cell coverage at my house.
ugh....
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I was in the same boat, that is why I researched how to do this...now I am set. this is better than the tmobile app because it doesn't use your minutes
lithdoc said:
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
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you are ahead of yourself... "turn off" all google voice on your phone and initiate the call from your desktop...then answer the gizmo call on your phone and enter the code (on your phone)...then turn on and adjust your gv settings
this is not a variant of UMA
lithdoc said:
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
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I had to install the Gizmo5 client on my PC. Then when the Google voice verification call came in, there's a little down arrow at the top of the popup box. If you click that, you can open a text with "sound blasts" I think it was. There's a keyboard there, and if you click on the two numbers, GV will accept it.
Damn, seems like some of you guys are/were depending on this feature... It'd be nice, but I dont need it. Good luck to you all.
ogdobber said:
I was in the same boat, that is why I researched how to do this...now I am set. this is better than the tmobile app because it doesn't use your minutes
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currently, i don't have a sip account. doesn't this still cost extra money to make happen? is there a cost per minute?
IDtheTarget said:
I had to install the Gizmo5 client on my PC. Then when the Google voice verification call came in, there's a little down arrow at the top of the popup box. If you click that, you can open a text with "sound blasts" I think it was. There's a keyboard there, and if you click on the two numbers, GV will accept it.
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Well, I figured out what the issue actually was... I signed up for Gizmo some 5 years ago, but have not really used it. Anyway, they gave out 2 numbers - one SIP with 747 are code, the other with 775 (I don't know whether they still give those away). I had initially put in the 775, and while it would ring, it would not recognize my inputs. Once I changed it to 747, it all worked like a charm.
Hm, okay, so something is still not working. I followed the directions as listed in the first posting, but I still have no sucess making calls. It just says registered callback, waiting for google to call back, and it goes nowhere from there...
UPDATE: anyway, it seems to work when my gizmo app is open on the computer, but that's kinda useless, since I want to use the phone as the calling device. Any thoughts?
b84cops said:
currently, i don't have a sip account. doesn't this still cost extra money to make happen? is there a cost per minute?
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see OP
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ogdobber said:
.... but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
....gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
...thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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does this change your phone number? i could never get this setup on the nexus 1, but is the addition of sip calling with gingerbread what makes this work?
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Well, I figured out what the issue actually was... I signed up for Gizmo some 5 years ago, but have not really used it. Anyway, they gave out 2 numbers - one SIP with 747 are code, the other with 775 (I don't know whether they still give those away). I had initially put in the 775, and while it would ring, it would not recognize my inputs. Once I changed it to 747, it all worked like a charm.
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You are lucky, gizmo stopped the 775 numbers a long time ago. It was supposed to be a back door to make free calls or have free incoming calls to your gizmo account. You have a valuable gizmo account
Does anyone know if this is a feature of gingerbread and will be available for other gingerbread phones?
Thanks.
robot_agenda said:
does this change your phone number? i could never get this setup on the nexus 1, but is the addition of sip calling with gingerbread what makes this work?
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if you go (call) through your google voice then that shows up...if you you use straight up gizmo then that will show...All of my numbers forward to my google voice so it doesn't matter what number people call, my phone will still ring