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I am buying a Verizon Samsung Fascinate, but I don't think it has a SIM card slot... is there any way to get it to work with my existing telus account? (I currently have a milestone). I know this may seem impossible, but ever since the milestone got gingerbread before motorola even released froyo, I'm a believer of anything...
LuigiC6 said:
I have a Verizon Samsung Fascinate, but I hear that it does not have a SIM card slot... is there any way to get it to work with my existing telus account? (I currently have a milestone). I know this may seem impossible, but ever since the milestone got gingerbread before motorola even released froyo, I'm a believer of anything...
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Completely different...gsm phones can't work on cdma networks and vice versa. No amount of programming is going to get it to work. They're both different technologies.
jenisiz said:
Completely different...gsm phones can't work in cdma networks and vice versa.
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Is Verizon's network not cdma?
LuigiC6 said:
Is Verizon's network not cdma?
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Verizon is cdma. Gsm uses sim cards.
jenisiz said:
Verizon is cdma. Gsm uses sim cards.
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My cdma telus milestone takes a sim card, but I have found a better answer on another site.
Thanks for the try though.
Um, last I checked, Telus uses GSM, not CDMA. I also don't think there is such as a thing as a CDMA Milestone. Well, there is, but it's better known as the original Droid. If you have a Milestone that uses a SIM card, it's a GSM phone. In any case, Verizon's Fascinate will not work on Telus.
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ivorycruncher said:
Um, last I checked, Telus uses GSM, not CDMA. I also don't think there is such as a thing as a CDMA Milestone. Well, there is, but it's better known as the original Droid. If you have a Milestone that uses a SIM card, it's a GSM phone. In any case, Verizon's Fascinate will not work on Telus.
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Umm, last I checked from Telus' website, they offer both cdma and GSM. Meaning that you may be correct about my milestone being GSM. Furthermore, I guess my question would be invalid either way. Thanks
Telus has CDMA and HSPA networks. The Telus Fascinate is HSPA and uses SIM cards. While they share a name, the model number for the Telus Fascinate is T959D, making it more akin to the t-Mobile Vibrant.
Not only that but the physical dimensions of the phones are not even the same so they can't even really share accessories.
daoom said:
Telus has CDMA and HSPA networks. The Telus Fascinate is HSPA and uses SIM cards. While they share a name, the model number for the Telus Fascinate is T959D, making it more akin to the t-Mobile Vibrant.
Not only that but the physical dimensions of the phones are not even the same so they can't even really share accessories.
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Yeah...that's why I was checking. You said verizon fascinate...but nope. There is a telus thread in here.
Hmm, they maintain both CDMA and HSPA+ networks? Bizaare. Well, I stand corrected on that, but I still don't know if the Verizon Fascinate will work on Telus or not. I would imagine the effort necessary would like trying to get a Fascinate on Sprint's network, which is next to impossible unless you've got an inside contact who is willing to activate it for you. There would most likely be some radio hacking involved too.
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Yeah...that's why I was checking. You said verizon fascinate...but nope. There is a telus thread in here.
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It is a verizon fascinate that I want to use on the telus network.
Why do you specifically want to use a verizon samsung fascinate? It should be possible because when I go to canada, I roam on telus and bell. But you can't just pop in a sim since there is no sim in the verizon fascinate. So you would have to find someone who is both willing and able to activate it for you. Personally if I was on telus, i'd opt for the international galaxy s.
Blackhole 4.2 on EB01 Froyo.
lowtech80 said:
Why do you specifically want to use a verizon samsung fascinate? It should be possible because when I go to canada, I roam on telus and bell. But you can't just pop in a sim since there is no sim in the verizon fascinate. So you would have to find someone who is both willing and able to activate it for you. Personally if I was on telus, i'd opt for the international galaxy s.
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I know it's weird lol But I'm getting this phone for like 10$, thats the only reason I'm willing to go through the hassle, otherwise I would just stick with my Milestone.
I've actually cancelled the order. Turns out the phone was a stolen phone, and to re-activate it, I would have to change the ESN number, which is possible, but I don't want a stolen phone.
LuigiC6 said:
I've actually cancelled the order. Turns out the phone was a stolen phone, and to re-activate it, I would have to change the ESN number, which is possible, but I don't want a stolen phone.
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Sorry to hear thar. If it's too good to be true, it usually is.
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LuigiC6 said:
I've actually cancelled the order. Turns out the phone was a stolen phone, and to re-activate it, I would have to change the ESN number, which is possible, but I don't want a stolen phone.
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Shoot i'd buy it as a test phone. Still available?
Well what do you mean stolen, like out of a store or from a person? if its the latter i would buy it for 10$ and try and find the original owners
hopefully they would give your some money for your troubles
lol Search it on ebay. The seller says that you can't activate it with verizon cause it's stolen. Personally I don't want anything to do with it lol
A friend of mine has a Galaxy S 4G on T-Mobile. Willl i9000 ROM's work on this model of phone? I own a Vibrant and use i9000 ROM's but I wanted to check before I recommended this to him.
Thanks!
No. Absolutely not.
If it even flashed, that would be a one way ticket on the I/O Bus to Brickville.
Don't do it, not now, not ever.
LOL okay, message heard loud and clear.
Why does it work on my phone (Vibrant) and not the 4G? Are there major differences between the 4G and the i9000, where the Vibrant is similar to i9000
Kops said:
LOL okay, message heard loud and clear.
Why does it work on my phone (Vibrant) and not the 4G? Are there major differences between the 4G and the i9000, where the Vibrant is similar to i9000
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Uh the bell vibrant is completely different than the t-mobile vibrant. Looking at a picture would make this very obvious. The bell vibrant is the same as the i9000.
Furry Atom said:
Uh the bell vibrant is completely different than the t-mobile vibrant. Looking at a picture would make this very obvious. The bell vibrant is the same as the i9000.
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I didn't want to go solely by a picture, but good to know nonetheless.
A little confusing...Bell markets this phone as a Vibrant...but on XDA, the "VIbrant" sub-section (judging by the picture) is definitely not my phone.
I know it's not a real 4g but t-mobile uses HSPA+ 21Mbps and sell it as a 4g.
And all I know is gsm version of sgs2 comes with HSPA+ 21Mbps.
So probably verizion version would be 3g but t-mobile version would be 4g out of the box? Just out of curiosity.
Frankly no one knows, just guessing and speculation now
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
kpark67 said:
I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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Until someone has the production ready device in hand and can examine the hardware, or Samsung/VZW release the product specs, there is nothing definite. Even if one could get ahold of pre-release software/firmware, there would be nothing that confirm nothing, just show you want pre-production models are using. So, if you want to continue speculation, the SGS2 will show up and make you 3 square meals a day, clean your house, teleport you to work, and shoot out rainbows and unicorns when you're feeling blue. Until actual device specs come out, it's anyone's guess as to what the SGS2 will be like on VZW.
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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kpark67 said:
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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VZW wouldn't be releasing the same device as T-Mobile anyways, because of GSM vs. CDMA. So who's to say that VZW wouldn't put in an LTE radio in their version now? The 10.1 Tab will be LTE on VZW in July and has the same slim form factor. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the SGS II
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec. So I just guess that would happen again for sgs2. Also samsung can put lte modem for function(verizon). But news release in Korea indicate samsung release first lte version of sgs2 for Korean market on september. Even if samsung could make lte version of sgs2 before september then what about the droid charge? if verizon release function with lte within a few months it's gonna go over $350 with 2 yr contract cause charge is $300.
Anyway it's gonna be very interesting.
I would think if anything, the Charge would drop in price and the SGS II would take it's place, price-wise
Yep. That would make sense.
l just hope it would stay within price range I can afford.
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kpark67 said:
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec.
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ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
Google Samsung Function. There is a speculated spec sheet right on top. Also includes pics.
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landshark68 said:
ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
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There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
The Fascinate also came out nearly 2 months after T-Mobile's Vibrant. Long story short, what other carriers do or don't do is completely irrelevant to us.
As long as I remember all 4 variants of galaxy s fo US market have 512mb ram. What I remember is system info (quadrant) on captivate shows around 340mb something which is almost same as fascinate.
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Falcyn said:
There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
imnuts said:
The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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With the latest roms available I would easily be satisfied with the fascinate for another two years if only it had a little more ram. Ram is really my only complaint at all with this phone.
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At first I was thinking 3G since they couldn't fit an LTE radio. But they managed to squeeze one in the 8.6mm GTab 10.1, so maybe they can here too. Even if they have to make it 8.6mm thin, I won't care, it'll be an awesome device. Unless Verizon Bings this one.
It would be nice, but it would call for some heavy duty changes by Samsung engineering wise. Have you noticed the sheer size of the lte phones? The whole lte system doesn't have the whole system on a chip it and it requires two separate radios, which is why it allows talk and surfing. This would make the galaxy s2 pretty huge unless Samsung has created an lte system on a chip for this phone.
According to the leaked rumored spec sheet, 4G will be included. Here is the link below.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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I GOT A DEAL FROM LOCAL TMOBILE G2+300 FOR samsung galaxy S2
uhhh... I paid 500$ for my G2... i dunno if I'd pay 800 for the galaxy s2. after my poor experience with the original galaxy s, I don't think I will ever have a non htc android phone again.
G1_enthusiast said:
I GOT A DEAL FROM LOCAL TMOBILE G2+300 FOR samsung galaxy S2
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Idk. what condition is your G2 in? thats really what it depends on. if its in mediocre condition then its really only worth about $200. so $500 for a good condition SGSII is a screamin' deal.
silverton said:
uhhh... I paid 500$ for my G2... i dunno if I'd pay 800 for the galaxy s2. after my poor experience with the original galaxy s, I don't think I will ever have a non htc android phone again.
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I hear Samsung has actually gotten more developer-friendly recently, especially after releasing the NS. Either way, I'd wait and see what the reviews and root procedure for the SGS2 are.
dunno about you, but i was still miffed with the fact that samsung refused to sell a gsm version of the epic 4g (unbranded from sprint's crap ofcourse) to the rest of the world. I was so intent on getting it that I hoped it would've appeared 3 months after the epic went on sale in the US....
mputtr said:
dunno about you, but i was still miffed with the fact that samsung refused to sell a gsm version of the epic 4g (unbranded from sprint's crap ofcourse) to the rest of the world. I was so intent on getting it that I hoped it would've appeared 3 months after the epic went on sale in the US....
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You know the Epic 4G is just Sprint's variation of the Galaxy S? T-Mobile's is the Vibrant, AT&T's is the captivate, Sprint's is the Epic 4G, and the global GSM version is the Galaxy S. Sprint just made it fat with a keyboard.
ofcourse i knew it was a variant of the galaxy s. you also do realize that the epic is the only one with a keyboard and the look that i like.
that's why i got a DZ. it has a keyboard. My biggest prereq is that is HAS to have a physical keyboard
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ofcourse i knew it was a variant of the galaxy s. you also do realize that the epic is the only one with a keyboard and the look that i like.
that's why i got a DZ. it has a keyboard. My biggest prereq is that is HAS to have a physical keyboard
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The reason why it has a keyboard is because Sprint stipulated that it had to. In other words, Samsung didn't want it to have a keyboard but made one as a Sprint exclusive. Aka Samsung wouldn't be able to sell a GSM version to the rest of the world because it was a 1-carrier build. Why is that Samsung's fault? Its Sprints fault for wanting the exclusive. Not to mention that Samsung would have never made a keyboard one if Sprint didn't ask.
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I hear Samsung has actually gotten more developer-friendly recently, especially after releasing the NS. Either way, I'd wait and see what the reviews and root procedure for the SGS2 are.
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The reviews are already out. The SGSII has been out in Europe for a while and every review I see has said nothing but great things.
martonikaj said:
The reason why it has a keyboard is because Sprint stipulated that it had to. In other words, Samsung didn't want it to have a keyboard but made one as a Sprint exclusive. Aka Samsung wouldn't be able to sell a GSM version to the rest of the world because it was a 1-carrier build. Why is that Samsung's fault? Its Sprints fault for wanting the exclusive. Not to mention that Samsung would have never made a keyboard one if Sprint didn't ask.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but all I'm saying is that I'm not happy that Samsung did not decide to release a gsm version. It does not matter if it was sprint's stipulation or anyone else's for that matter. the point is that they never released a gsm version and that I would've bought it if it was for a gsm network.
No need to go defensive for samsung. Not to mention that it is not difficult for them to sell a gsm variant for the epic.
after all this is simply my view on what I would've gone for if I had a chance, but i'm unhappy that they didn't because it was such a nice phone.
mputtr said:
I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but all I'm saying is that I'm not happy that Samsung did not decide to release a gsm version. It does not matter if it was sprint's stipulation or anyone else's for that matter. the point is that they never released a gsm version and that I would've bought it if it was for a gsm network.
No need to go defensive for samsung. Not to mention that it is not difficult for them to sell a gsm variant for the epic.
after all this is simply my view on what I would've gone for if I had a chance, but i'm unhappy that they didn't because it was such a nice phone.
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I'm explaining to you that Sprint had an exclusive on the Galaxy S + keyboard (they designed it, they keep it). They wouldn't let Samsung sell a GSM version in the US or abroad for that matter. Don't hate Samsung because Sprint told them not to release it anywhere else lol.
martonikaj said:
I'm explaining to you that Sprint had an exclusive on the Galaxy S + keyboard (they designed it, they keep it). They wouldn't let Samsung sell a GSM version in the US or abroad for that matter. Don't hate Samsung because Sprint told them not to release it anywhere else lol.
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i've never heard about sprint not allowing samsung to sell a gsm version. maybe exclusivity in the US but dunno about worldwide.
mputtr said:
i've never heard about sprint not allowing samsung to sell a gsm version. maybe exclusivity in the US but dunno about worldwide.
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When carriers ask for a customization for a phone, that phone doesn't exist anywhere else. It was clear that Samsung was going to sell their variant of the Galaxy S without a keyboard. They sold the i9000 version in Europe sans keyboard, that was their unlocked GSM version. Sprint requested the keyboard and got it. Samsung made that phone for Sprint, its not like they had it in the pipeline and Sprint stole it as an exclusive to keep it CDMA. Its pretty clear Samsung was willing to do whatever the US carriers wanted by re-designing the phone 4 times for all the major carriers, and even some regionals.
I'd understand your frustration if it was a GSM worldphone kept on lock to AT&T/T-mobile, but in reality they'd have to redesign it to be a GSM version, and whether Sprint wanted this to be the only keyboard Galaxy S or not, Samsung surely wasn't going to make a GSM version of it.
But regardless, this has absolutely nothing to do with OP's question...
Which is exactly why i dont understand why you were so intent on arguing this when its not related to the op. It simply seems to me that you are arguing for the sake of doing so
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It seems that the craze of Samsung Galaxy S II is not likely to get diminish in near future as yet another operator, U.S. Cellular is on the way to release its version of Galaxy S II in United States. This smartphone will be slightly different from other American variants in terms of its design and specs..........
http://mirolta.com/2012/02/22/u-s-c...sion-of-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-in-united-states/
A bigger battery is always good, but a 4.5" screen is probably a bit too big for wvga resolution.
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Belongs in the Epic 4G Touch forums - US Cellular is a CDMA provider, and that combined with identical specs to the E4GT says this is just a rebadged E4GT.
This phone's model is SCH-R760 and it isn't 4G, just 3G so I don't think it can be thrown in with the Epic 4G Touch. Where should we be posting about this one?
sophistical said:
This phone's model is SCH-R760 and it isn't 4G, just 3G so I don't think it can be thrown in with the Epic 4G Touch. Where should we be posting about this one?
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Interesting. Probably it's an E4GT with the WiMax radio removed.
Well, it isn't out yet or Samsung is violating the GPL with it (no source code for the kernel posted), so it's hard to tell.
Thanks. It came out today and I have one so they are indeed violating the GPL. You are probably right though, it likely is the same phone minus that radio. I'm looking to root so I'm hoping I can use E4GT methods.
any luck??
Just wondering if you had any luck. bought mine yesterday and its rooted. im itching to try some custom roms, wondering.....
Still nothing for this phone? Are the R760 folks just SOL?
Snyperx said:
Still nothing for this phone? Are the R760 folks just SOL?
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No. There just isn't an SCH-R760 forum on THIS site. Closest information you'll find is in the Epic 4G Touch (SPH-D710) forums, but they are still different phones, so don't flash any actual E4GT ROMs, unless they explicitly state they will work on the SCH-R760.
Google is, and always will be, your friend.
http://www.google.com/search?&q=US+Cellular+sch-r760+custom+roms
A quick perusal of the results I got seem to indicate that the results on the teamuscellular.com website are likely to be your best resource for this variant.