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Hey everybody, I'm switching to an iPhone 4 to the Droid X within a matter of weeks now. That being said, I am a VERY experience user of iOS and even got Android on my old iTouch. Every iDevice I have owned has been jailbroken and heavily used. However, I believe it is time to switch to the Droid X. It has a much bigger screen, much more speed, and a more reliable network. Now to the good stuff - I have been following several threads on the Droid X about the "ROMS" . I do love the Vanilla Android look and would definetely want to put that on my upcoming Droid X. Does anyone know of a good instruction guide to get that properly set-up and working for noobies? Thanks to everybody, looking forward to making the big switch!
there is a good tutorial over on droidxforums.com for root/roms/backup in the hacks section
Welcome aboard. I too dumped my iPhone 4 after six months and now have the Droid X. I cleared some good resale value, and couldn't be happier. If you haven't sold it yet I would suggest checking out www.wennecorp.com, they were easy to deal with and a legit buyer.
Z4root will get you rooted (free in market) and Rom Manager will get you familiar with roms. You will also need bootstrap recovery to get started flashing. Google it. Steer clear of the leaked 2.2.1 flash for now. There is no full SBF to recover if things go wrong. Once the full SBF is available, it's no big deal. Use Rom Manager to back up before each and every flash. This will save you alot of headache.You will always have something stable to go back to if things go bad, unless you upgrade bootloader. Once you upgrade bootloader, old backups are useless. Another reason to stay away from the leak for now.
thanks for the suggestion bro
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Z4root will get you rooted (free in market) and Rom Manager will get you familiar with roms. You will also need bootstrap recovery to get started flashing. Google it. Steer clear of the leaked 2.2.1 flash for now. There is no full SBF to recover if things go wrong. Once the full SBF is available, it's no big deal. Use Rom Manager to back up before each and every flash. This will save you alot of headache.You will always have something stable to go back to if things go bad, unless you upgrade bootloader. Once you upgrade bootloader, old backups are useless. Another reason to stay away from the leak for now.
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thanks so much for the explanation man. the iphone 4 is pretty simple to hack with the new jailbreaks and such ahah. it will be fun playing witht he droid x tho. thanks again . i will search a bit more
I have had my Nexus One for nearly a year and just haven't gotten the momentum to do custom ROMs (though, now that I got a Galaxy Tab I will move on some custom ROMs for it, I believe). Anyways, since I got the Tab I was thinking I would dump the smartphone for a dumbphone altogether (nice not having smartphone bill anymore) since the Tab spoils you with is large beautiful screen. So I want to get this Nexus One back to stock for selling it, all I have done is root it and remove some a couple included apps that annoyed me (twitter and facebook I think).
The problem is I am having trouble applying OTA updates - it starts then stops with the android dude and the ! then reboots to where it was. This continues even after a wipe (which I though would clear it back). And now GB is out so how do I get this back so it can update again?
Excellent guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614850
That's part of the unroot/restore guide in the wiki. Better reading the whole thing, so you get the latest info and warnings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
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Thanks, will look it over.
All squared away, and very easy. Thanks.
Can you flash this over CM7.1, or do you need to do a full wipe?
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If its a new base then definitely full wipe.
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It may be more work to do a full wipe and fresh install, but you are less likely to run into issues later on.
I use Titanium Backup to backup apps and app data, and SMS Backup and Restore to backup text messages. Many launchers also have the option to backup the icon/desktop layout to simplify the process of getting your new rom fully set up.
I love titanium backup. This is for my wife's phone, and it's an easier sell to update her if I don't have to do the full gimmick. Thanks for responses, guys.
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Why update her to 7.2 when it sounds like she is happy with 7.1? I don't recall many major changes, mainly tweaks and minor bug fixes.
You know you have a tinkering addiction when...
Good point. There are a few back-ported ICS improvements and stability improvements, a new dialer, stuff like that. Ultimately the decision is hers. I provide the information and she'll decide if she wants me to do it. Maybe we'll wait till one of those ICS ROMs gets stable.
Sent from my beastly Galaxy S 2.
Hey all,
Even though I've pretty much a big lurker here for a while, especially the last year. I've finally upgraded to the GS3 today, so my Heroc is finally, after just about 3 years, retired.
I wanted to thank everyone throughout the years that made this device so great. I won't name individuals, there are too many and I know I'll forget someone. You all are the best! Thanks for keeping this device so great for so long! Your roms and other resources have truly been a delight.
And to my Hero, you are my hero. I've never had a phone I've been so attached to. You've stuck through the rooting, roms, and other nonsense I've put you through, getting dropped, squished, and other tortures, and never dropped a call, died at the wrong time, or missed a message. Well done, true and faithful servant, well done.:crying:
Carl
Congrats on the GS3. Very nice device. I was giving it a serious look-over, but the screen feels just too big for me. Even though the Evo 4G LTE is not much smaller, it's enough that it I find it "just right." I'm planning to switch over to it soon.
However...
I wasn't very courageous with my HTC Hero. I had it rooted for over a year before finally taking the chance and loading a ROM onto it. I kept reading up on the different ones available, knowing I could always go back to stock if I didn't like it. But I felt paranoid that I might screw it up. And my first time flashing a new ROM, I almost did... fortunately it all worked out. I'm zipping along on CM7.2 now.
It took me a full weekend of searching around to find the apps and widgets that appealed to me, giving enough functionality to match or surpass what I'd had before. I missed the sleek integrated feel of HTC Sense, but... there are fine substitutes to be had if you look hard enough. I've customized my Hero now to the point where I'm regretting that I didn't do this sooner. It's a really great phone with CM7. But there's no beating around the fact that the processor is anemic compared to what is out there now. You can't play memory intensive games on it (e.g. Angry Birds), but in a way I kind of like that... one less thing to waste my time on.
One other nice thing about the Hero... is the grandfathered waiver on the 4G monthly fee. Upgrading adds on $10/mo. Of course, once you have reliable 4G in your area, it's well worth it. Anyway, I suspect the easiest way to motivate an upgrade is to put the two phones side by side. No contest on performance with the GS3 or 4G LTE.
I actually was so scared to root it, I waited like 6 months before I did. But boy o boy, once I did, I think I unrooted maybe once just to clean up a really bad ROM install. I went though the different CMs, NFX, LiquidSense, ExEnHeroC, AospMod (on his for a long time), WildHero, and tried ALOT of others and I finally landed for almost the past year on the TeamHeroC rom. I waited 6 months to root my Hero, and 3 weeks to root my Nook tablet. I rooted the GS3 pretty much three days after I got it. Gotta love XDA!
I've tweaked it to the moon using firerat's and data2ext, played with the different kernels like Decafuct and Jaybob's and UOT kitchened it. I have put it though the mill, and it still runs purrs right along. In fact, if I didn't really need a wifi hotspot right now, I would still be with it.
I don't know if it's that this being the first Android Sprint phone, and at the time there weren't very many out there, or what, but there've been and continue to be so many people working on this phone over the years. I know the HeroC is a legacy device, but there still seems to be lots of development going on. I can only hope the SG3 will be as supported.
BTW, it is a transition going from the Hero's small screen to the GS3's massive one. But it is sweet to use!
Carl
Hey Carl,
Great to hear about your experience with the Hero. I've not yet tried the TeamHeroC... sounds good. Is that the same group that created TWRP? Out of all the ROM's which one would say is:
Best for HTC Sense like GUI with reasonable performance
Best for flat out lean and mean performance without sacrificing usability
I've only just gotten a hang of the Android OS architecture and understanding the various layers, so I've not even started to think about replacing kernels. It certainly sounds like you can mix and match a number of components to achieve your own unique blend that suits you. It'll be fun to learn more about it, which will prepare me for rooting and modding my next Android phone (most likely the HTC Evo 4G LTE). Thankfully I'm all set for a phone discount so if I manage to brick my Hero, I can quickly get a replacement without significant cost.
I'm also looking forward to trying out ICS and JB, to see if people have cooked up ROMs that can actually run efficiently on the Hero without producing much lag. That's pretty much the Achilles Heel of the Hero--the processor. If there was only some way to upgrade it.
~Gary
cytherian said:
Hey Carl,
Great to hear about your experience with the Hero. I've not yet tried the TeamHeroC... sounds good. Is that the same group that created TWRP?
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cytherian said:
Out of all the ROM's which one would say is:
Best for HTC Sense like GUI with reasonable performance
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WildHeroc
cytherian said:
Best for flat out lean and mean performance without sacrificing usability
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Jaybob's teamheroc is best for everything
cytherian said:
I'm also looking forward to trying out ICS and JB, to see if people have cooked up ROMs that can actually run efficiently on the Hero without producing much lag. That's pretty much the Achilles Heel of the Hero--the processor. If there was only some way to upgrade it.
~Gary
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Shelnutt has done a really good job with jellybean. It runs rather well.
As far as flashing kernels and roms, the hero is hard to screw up. Make nandroids and flash away and you can try everything.
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Thanks for the suggestions, ajrty (or do you like to be called SeaDoo?). I had seen mention of WildHero before but I'll bump it to the top of my list of next ROMs to try.
While I've been appreciating some of what GO Launcher does, I'm astounded at how bloated it is. The frigging thing takes up 24Mb of memory, and that's just the launcher alone! The task manager, power master, and weather widgets also consume quite a bit of space. Also, when I elected for it to be the default, it effectively hid ADW Launcher from everything except one sub menu under settings. It took me a while, but for a moment I was thinking the darned thing had uninstalled ADW without asking for my permission.
Are you using TWRP or CWM for managing your backups? If you use TWRP, do you also use Goo Manager? How do you deal with preserving current data when switching ROMs (such as contacts, SMS and voicemail)? It's my understanding that nandroid and the like replace everything completely. Or, is it that once you get a ROM configured the way you like it, you do a nandroid backup for just the apps and system, leaving data out of it? I suspect that if you have the data stored on the SD card that a nandroid backup not containing user data would simply leave it alone when restored.
hey cytherian,
I agree with ajrty33. If you want a good ROM, TeamHeroC by Jaybob et al, is the best, and it's what I rocked for the past year. I tried others, but always came back to it. Wildhero is probably the most advanced Sense ROM out there, and runs really well on the Heroc.
I can't speak too much for launchers...I have always ran my Heroc with LauncherPro. I doubt it's available anymore. I know when I rooted my Nook tablet, it installed ADW as the launcher, and I have to say I like it. So far on my galaxy I'm still on with TouchWiz (for now).
I always ran with clockwork for my recovery, and it always treated me well. for a backup, I used (and still do) MyBackup Pro. Short of a nandroid backup it catches all my SMS/MMS, call log, and other stuff. If I installed a new ROM, that would give me all my data back.
It sounds like your a bit confused below about nandroid backups. A nandroid backup (that you would do from recovery) takes a snapshot of your system (ROM, data, cache, everything) and saves it to a file. If you then install a ROM, and it either messes up, or you just want to go back to the system as it stood just before you installed the new ROM, you can use your recovery to flash it back. So a nandroid backup is a necessary part of playing with ROMs....as long as you keep a good copy, you can get your phone back the way it was.
Backup programs like Titanium or MyBackup, just backup data and apps. They dont backup your system (I dont think Titanium does anyway). So if I installed a new ROM, I would use it to restore, for instance, all my SMSs.
Hope that helps,
Carl
I just picked up the V20 and am in the process of trying out some non-root backup/restore options. I'm thinking of running stock, non-rooted on the V20 for a bit to see if I even need to bother with root anymore. Does anyone have any pro tips on using LGBackup or Helium? My note 4 is rooted and does nightly backups with Titanium, so I'm thinking if I can't get one of the non-root restores to work I'll resort to rooting just to get my Titanium backup on there. Is there a way for Titanium to restore without root maybe?
So far I've found the LGBackup is just stupidly slow. The reviews were hit or miss on if it actually moves over app data. Still waiting on a small test restore to finish to verify.
Any other note 4 to V20 users with some tips on settings or anything? This is my first non-Samsung phone and also a big upgrade in terms of OS. Was still running 4.4.4 on the note 4 because I'm lazy on manually upgrading the ROM, that's why I'm hoping to not root/rom this time round.
EDIT: Another possibly stupid question, could I root to get the Titanium backup restored onto the V20 then unroot without wiping the data? Basically my goal it get my app data from note 4 to V20 and still be able to get OTA updates from Tmo or Google.
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I just picked up the V20 and am in the process of trying out some non-root backup/restore options. I'm thinking of running stock, non-rooted on the V20 for a bit to see if I even need to bother with root anymore. Does anyone have any pro tips on using LGBackup or Helium? My note 4 is rooted and does nightly backups with Titanium, so I'm thinking if I can't get one of the non-root restores to work I'll resort to rooting just to get my Titanium backup on there. Is there a way for Titanium to restore without root maybe?
So far I've found the LGBackup is just stupidly slow. The reviews were hit or miss on if it actually moves over app data. Still waiting on a small test restore to finish to verify.
Any other note 4 to V20 users with some tips on settings or anything? This is my first non-Samsung phone and also a big upgrade in terms of OS. Was still running 4.4.4 on the note 4 because I'm lazy on manually upgrading the ROM, that's why I'm hoping to not root/rom this time round.
EDIT: Another possibly stupid question, could I root to get the Titanium backup restored onto the V20 then unroot without wiping the data? Basically my goal it get my app data from note 4 to V20 and still be able to get OTA updates from Tmo or Google.
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I'm pretty sure you don't want to restore a Note 4 backup to the V20. Some of the apps use different hooks. To be honest, I wasn't a fan of TB backups when flashing new ROMs. I had much better luck just reinstalling the apps from the Store.
TB won't run on phones that aren't rooted and I'm sure that any unroot methods would involve wiping data.
I've had the phone since day one. I haven't yet had a compelling reason to root. Your mileage may vary.
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I'm pretty sure you don't want to restore a Note 4 backup to the V20. Some of the apps use different hooks. To be honest, I wasn't a fan of TB backups when flashing new ROMs. I had much better luck just reinstalling the apps from the Store.
TB won't run on phones that aren't rooted and I'm sure that any unroot methods would involve wiping data.
I've had the phone since day one. I haven't yet had a compelling reason to root. Your mileage may vary.
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Even the data wouldn't be compatable? I've seen how Helium can just do the data, so you can download the app then restore just the data. That's going to be my next test. LGBackup took ~3 hours on just personal data and 5 test apps. No app data was transferred.
just a heads up. I dont know if this issue has been solved or not but.... if you are planning to root the phone and in the near feature you want to unlock the simcard, i suggest to unlock it prior to doing the root because many people have been trying to unlock their phones and even when they go back to stock it will say that the device is not supported.
Go back to your Note 4. Trust me I regret getting rid of my Note 4 for this POS. Went through 2 v20's already and waiting for my 3rd replacement as this one just died.
I've restored LGbackups several times and it worked far better than sammy smart switch or kies. It restored all my apps and app associated data.
The v20 will be faster (about 3 times faster in benchmarks), has more ram, less junkware, more storage, quicker camera, faster charging and better screen.
Only thing missing from the v20 is the stylus. I honestly wish they'd make the v series a stylus version and the g series a non stylus version akin to the Samsung S series and Note series.
As for note 4 backup on a v20 I don't recommend it because Samsung is known to customize the crap out of the android system. I am not sure if they still do this but I know kitkat was heavily modified (specifically ART component) on the note 3 enough to require rework on aftermarket options.
Further v20 is on Nougat, I believe the note 4 was updated to the last version of lollipop so that could create some issues.
As for backing up I recommend 3rd party software like Titanium Backup because manufacturer backups tend to go with the idea you'll stick with their brand forever.
SaintZ what exactly happened to your v20s? I find it interesting you've gone through so many bad ones certainly not normal.
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