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Hi, i have some questions for you guys
1: Are there something out there which makes me able to choose winmo or android when i boot up my phone?
2: If that exists, where is the newest version of android?? what should i install... i really wanna keep winmo on my phone cause i think it looks nice, its just a little buggy.. thats why i wanna try out android...
I have seen these "harret" android versions which you can boot on top of windows, but doesnt that just slow down the phone.. to having two OS's running???
THX, Qwak
qwak said:
Hi, i have some questions for you guys
1: Are there something out there which makes me able to choose winmo or android when i boot up my phone?
2: If that exists, where is the newest version of android?? what should i install... i really wanna keep winmo on my phone cause i think it looks nice, its just a little buggy.. thats why i wanna try out android...
I have seen these "harret" android versions which you can boot on top of windows, but doesnt that just slow down the phone.. to having two OS's running???
THX, Qwak
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It's the only way (for now) to boot your android, so yeah, there are several programs that allow you to choose between Winmo or Android at startup.
Newest version of android...well depends on what build you use. I suggest reading some more information on these boards to see what suits you best.
Haret doesn't run Android alongside Windows, it kicks Windows out of the phone's memory, and boots Android from the SD card. Android will run nice and fast.
As far as an app to choose which operating system you want to use upon booting up your device, Exceller bootlauncher is the way to go.
Just look in HD2 Android Developement forum, or do a search using the site's search function and keyword exceller, you're sure to find it.
Try a few different Android builds, they're all great, and Exceller will allow you to choose between different builds.
You just cant have them in folders named the same thing, so you may have to edit the startup.txt in your Android folders so that your rel_path corresponds with what you name your folder to.
Might sound confusing now, but once you get down to it, it'll seem simple
you write that it "kicks windows out"... just to be sure, windows will still be there right??
qwak said:
you write that it "kicks windows out"... just to be sure, windows will still be there right??
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yeah, windows will still be there... it never leaves you
what huggs mean is, that windows will not be running in the background. I will be "kicked out" of the memory.
When you reboot your Leo fom android - guess what - windows will load first again...
You'll see, it never leaves you
ok super nice!!
one last question: i have downloaded a version of android, but the file contains three folders: android, data_512, data_1024... is it nessesary to copy all three folder over??
qwak said:
ok super nice!!
one last question: i have downloaded a version of android, but the file contains three folders: android, data_512, data_1024... is it nessesary to copy all three folder over??
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No you don't have to, just copy the "Android" folder to sd card then choose either th data.img in one of the two folders ( copy the 1024's Data if you want 1GB of storage and copy the 512's data if you want 512 MB of storage) Have fun !
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Copy the data.img into the Android folder
hey again... just found some new questions:
i just found a guide on how to install android, and it seems that i have to flash my rom and change my radio.. i have heard about flashing roms before, but never really knew how it would affect my phone..
q1: will flashing rom (and radio) delete the os?
q2: can i always go back to my old rom/radio??
qwak said:
hey again... just found some new questions:
i just found a guide on how to install android, and it seems that i have to flash my rom and change my radio.. i have heard about flashing roms before, but never really knew how it would affect my phone..
q1: will flashing rom (and radio) delete the os?
Not really, as you're just replacing it
q2: can i always go back to my old rom/radio??
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yes you can, just write them down beforehand
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what do you mean with write them down? sry for my many questions
qwak said:
what do you mean with write them down? sry for my many questions
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np, I mean when you're booting your phone you can see some numbers on the bottom left, just write these numbers down, when you want to return to your original Radio/Rom just download the corresponding numbers from the Radio/ROM thread you can find at the ROM development section (But trust me, you would never want to return to your originals. as soon as you flash your new ones you'll find out that your previous were useless )
ok, i think i have one last question..
Will installing another rom/radio/android remove my warranty???
qwak said:
ok, i think i have one last question..
Will installing another rom/radio/android remove my warranty???
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Since you'll be needing HSPL for radio/rom flashing then yes. I'm not sure wether there is a way around it, but you may give SSPL a look, it doesn't void your warranty .
oh well.. it says i can just install the stock spl and it should be fine...
Hey,
Til now i have tried 12 Android 2.2 Builds. But only Hyperdroid 1.7 worked. But i like shubcract and all the other builds more. Everytime I used the correct Installation ways but 11 builds ended at a green HTC Logo. Thats sad
Can you help me? That would be great.
Oh, and i also tried 6 different custom roms. With hyperdroid I use the new Energy Rom. Thanks
Reltih2200 said:
Hey,
Til now i have tried 12 Android 2.2 Builds. But only Hyperdroid 1.7 worked. But i like shubcract and all the other builds more. Everytime I used the correct Installation ways but 11 builds ended at a green HTC Logo. Thats sad
Can you help me? That would be great.
Oh, and i also tried 6 different custom roms. With hyperdroid I use the new Energy Rom. Thanks
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You might want to reformat your micro SD card to FAT32 and do a complete install from scratch. My combo has served me well with no issues.
That's what I have done, too.
Aww, it looks like there is no way out :/
Your card may be faulty.
Even when ONE build works every time? Is that possible.
I used an 2GB one and an 1GB one (stupid idea, i know ).
Now I am waiting for my new 8GB one, I'll try it with that, but I can't believe that this could be the problem.
But maybe you are right, thanks for your answer
Reltih2200 said:
Hey,
Til now i have tried 12 Android 2.2 Builds. But only Hyperdroid 1.7 worked. But i like shubcract and all the other builds more. Everytime I used the correct Installation ways but 11 builds ended at a green HTC Logo. Thats sad
Can you help me? That would be great.
Oh, and i also tried 6 different custom roms. With hyperdroid I use the new Energy Rom. Thanks
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Have you checked startup.txt?
What do I have to check there?
Some builds do take time to load.
Do you have a "loader" to automatically load droid or do you do it through selection of "clrd" and "haret"?
Are you installing the complete build folder?
I tried it with ,,LaunchAndroid'' on the Energy Rom (thats what works perfectly with HyperDroid) and on the other tested Roms, I used the casual method. Even this method worked with HyperDroid really well!
Everytime, I saw the green HTC Logo, I waited over one hour and nothing happens.
Then I gave up.
On HyperDroid, I see the Linux-Penguin and it goes through a black field with white commands on it and then it starts.
When I start all the other builds, I see the black field with the white commands for one second, then the green Logo appears!
To your last question:
I throw the folder on the root of my sdcard and that was it.
That's how it works as hyperdroid 1.7
Or is there another thing for the other builds, which I have to do?
Reltih2200 said:
What do I have to check there?
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You have to check that rel_path directs to the folder where Android is stored. Some builds are stored in folders named after the builds, whilst others are stored in the default 'Android' folder. If rel_path isn't linked correctly, you will not boot.
This could explain why only Hyperdroid works.
And also, as mentioned by others, wait 20-30 minutes on first boot, it may take a while to create your data.img
This seems to be the reason for it. I didn't tested it yet, but I took a look into the builds folder.
On HyperDroid it looks like this:
set cmdline "rel_path=HyperDroidV1.7"
And on Moto234 EVO v0.3 it looks like this:
set cmdline "rel_path=Android nand_boot=0"
Do I have to change something there?
I see that for HyperDroid, there is no Android Folder, only the folder ,,HyperDroidV1.7''. Thats what the cmdline says, too.
Do I have to change the Moto234 startup.txt-cmdline into
set cmdline "rel_path=Moto234_EVO_Black&Blue_V0.3"
In fact, THERE IS an Android-Folder. For HyperDroid, i put the files directly on the root, not in an android folder. When I take the files out of the Android Folder (for example the Moto234 build) and put it directly to the root of the sd card and I edit the startup.txt like, is it possible, that everything works fine?
I will try it and when it works, I am so happy
Reltih2200 said:
This seems to be the reason for it. I didn't tested it yet, but I took a look into the builds folder.
On HyperDroid it looks like this:
set cmdline "rel_path=HyperDroidV1.7"
And on Moto234 EVO v0.3 it looks like this:
set cmdline "rel_path=Android nand_boot=0"
Do I have to change something there?
I see that for HyperDroid, there is no Android Folder, only the folder ,,HyperDroidV1.7''. Thats what the cmdline says, too.
Do I have to change the Moto234 startup.txt-cmdline into
set cmdline "rel_path=Moto234_EVO_Black&Blue_V0.3"
In fact, THERE IS an Android-Folder. For HyperDroid, i put the files directly on the root, not in an android folder. When I take the files out of the Android Folder (for example the Moto234 build) and put it directly to the root of the sd card and I edit the startup.txt like, is it possible, that everything works fine?
I will try it and when it works, I am so happy
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First of all, make sure Android is installed in 1 folder on root, and not in a subfolder of that folder. This means that the files should all be put in, for example, H:\Android\ or /sdcard/Android/, and not for example H:\Moto234blablabla\Android\, that's one folder too much (well actually I'm not sure this is - it probably isn't - a requirement, but do it anyways).
Then just change rel_path to the exact spot your startup.txt, or haret and clrcad for that matter, are located. For example: rel_path=Android , or rel_path="Moto234blabla".
Simples, see?
Edit: in case I'm not being very clear: of course don't change the folder structure inside of the Android folder. Files in for example /root/ or /data/ should remain where they are, obviously.
Yeah, but when it is, how you explain it to me, HyperDroid shouldn't work.
As I said, it is this:
set cmdline "rel_path=HyperDroidV1.7"
But the files of Hyperdroid I directly on the sd card, there is no folder or subfolder.
That means, the files are on H: and nothing more.
So, why does it work? I will test it at weekend, because when I have to start all over again with HyperDroid, after nothing worked, it takes to much time.
Maybe it works
Reltih2200 said:
Yeah, but when it is, how you explain it to me, HyperDroid shouldn't work.
As I said, it is this:
set cmdline "rel_path=HyperDroidV1.7"
But the files of Hyperdroid I directly on the sd card, there is no folder or subfolder.
That means, the files are on H: and nothing more.
So, why does it work? I will test it at weekend, because when I have to start all over again with HyperDroid, after nothing worked, it takes to much time.
Maybe it works
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Do a usb link and check the "Hyper" folder to see if there is another "Hyper" sub folder, this may be the problem. Sometimes one creates a folder and then places the build in that folder which it automatically creates its own.
If there is an "Android" folder, check that as well and make sure there isn't a sub "Hyper" folder; when you open either folders it should open a list consisting of "root" folder, zimg, etc.
So, I did everything mentioned here.
And...nothing works. ONLY HyperDroid 1.7
I mean, that couldn't be. I did everything, i changed the startup.txt, again I used thousand different ROM's. It sucks :/
I am glad to see, that you tried to help me, but it seems to be useless.
I have no idea what to do. Maybe it's better to sell the HD2 and buy a Dell Streak or a Desire HD. Then I have no problems like this.
When you have a nother possible reason for this phenomenon, tell it to me. Maybe this one works
Format your SD card and try again (do a full format, not the default quick one), maybe that'll solve it.
Does not help, sorry
EDIT: For anyone, who wants to know...i finally solved the problem.
I mean, I am so happy, I could cry
And everything because of the user ,,shekerdothis''. He is just a god. He saved my life
So, he said in another post:
I had the same issue for about a day, and after research of stuck on green HTC Logo with no help, and thousands of post later I came acroos an article regarding EncFiltLog.menc. Do not format your SD card with MAC or windows PC, but rather the secret is to format your SD card with your winmo phone by going to "settings" | "format SD card". It will create an exec file "EncFiltLog.menc" This file is, I guess, a partition index??? The file "EncFiltLog.menc" is hidden in windows mobile 6.x but is visible when you mount your SD card to your PC. Do not delete this file!!!!
After that just drop your android folder and it will boot up in less than 3 mins. After that, u may add all your other files. I use a 16GB card with Android and all my music and stuff with no problems. Hope this helps you.
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And yeah, it worked. I went to settings in Winmo, then to System and then format SD Card. It took 1 Second (even faster then the quick Format on my PC) and everything works brilliant!
Thanks to you all, what a great Forum
Reltih2200 said:
Does not help, sorry
EDIT: For anyone, who wants to know...i finally solved the problem.
I mean, I am so happy, I could cry
And everything because of the user ,,shekerdothis''. He is just a god. He saved my life
So, he said in another post:
And yeah, it worked. I went to settings in Winmo, then to System and then format SD Card. It took 1 Second (even faster then the quick Format on my PC) and everything works brilliant!
Thanks to you all, what a great Forum
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Am I missing something? I don't have a Format SD Card option under Settings on WM
Ok soooo only hyper droid works and other build dont
well play around with the kernel in Hyperdroid and mess with the data IMG ,
voila
then even hyper droid wont work,,,,,
Sorry mate , just kidding,
your issue seems to be with startup txt,
best regds
xnifex said:
Am I missing something? I don't have a Format SD Card option under Settings on WM
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I don't know!? I have the newest energy rom and on basic Windows Mobile 6.5, you also can find this option. Use the newest energy rom, go to Settings and then to system. There you can find KeyLock-Settings,Device Information,Format SD-Card,Remove Programs,Memory,Screen,External GPS,aGPS Settings,G-Sensor, Certificates, About,Uploader,Wipe,Power etc.
Ok soooo only hyper droid works and other build dont
well play around with the kernel in Hyperdroid and mess with the data IMG ,
voila
then even hyper droid wont work,,,,,
Sorry mate , just kidding,
your issue seems to be with startup txt,
best regds
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Yeah, as I said, it has nothing to do with the startup.txt. I solved the problem with the method, explained in another Thread. Now I tried 11 Builds (MDJ has the best ) and everyone works.
It's a mistery to me, why hyperdroid worked without to format the sd card via winmo, but who cares? Everything works fine, and thats awesome )
Ok im new and nobody has written me back about this so i have to ask this way but i flashed to the energy rom and i want android on it, i dont know how to go from where im at to that as all the threads ive seen has said download this and that but i really dont kno how to get energy off to do that but when i hit the launch android button it says "CLRCAD.exe was not found on your storage card...proceeding to launch Haret anyway" ok then "Haret.exe was not found on your storage card..." so can any body help me get android???
Hardware is:
RAM size 576MB
Flash memory size 1024MB
Data bus 32 bits
Software is:
OS version 5.2.21916
Manila version 2.5.20191914.0
ROM version 26 Jan.2011 WWE
Radio version 2.10.50.26
Firstly there are 2 ways of running Android, 1st via sd card and 2nd via NAND memory. The option you choose depends on whether or not you still want to use winmo. If so you need to use the sd card based Android builds. If you only want to use Android then you need to go the NAND based Android build approach.
As you mention running clrcad and haret I'm assuming you want to use the dual bot method, ie both winmo and Android. You will then need to device which Android build you want to try (from the Android SD dev forum) and carefully read the first few posts to see the dev's instructions, but in most cases you need to download and unzip the rom and copy the Android folder to the root of your sd card. In the NRG roms, clicking on the launch Android icon he includes in his build will run the clrcad and haret automatically and boot to Android.
thanx for your reply..thats the thing when i hit launch android it wont go...so when i copy the folder do i download everything even if it says its already on an if installed it might not work? thats where im lost
Try formatting the sd card completely so that there are no funnies on the card, copy the entire Android folder to the sd card root and you can ignore the warning about files that may not work etc.
ok ill give it a try
when you format your sd card will it erase the NRG rom and then you have to put it back on there?
1989jeremy said:
when you format your sd card will it erase the NRG rom and then you have to put it back on there?
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No! Unless you will install nandroid.
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ok just checkin..i want android on my sd card
ok i formatted my sd card then copied the android folder to it and it still did launch an when i clicked on the folder to run clrcad it didnt do anything an when i clicked the heret it just went to the htc screen and thats it...what did i do wrong??
Did you give it some time? I would ask the question in the thread for the actual rom you are using. Other users may have a solution for you.
1989jeremy said:
ok i formatted my sd card then copied the android folder to it and it still did launch an when i clicked on the folder to run clrcad it didnt do anything an when i clicked the heret it just went to the htc screen and thats it...what did i do wrong??
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Good, so you've formatted your sd card and copied the android build, clrcad and haret.exe files to the root....Tapping clrcad (to run) doesn't show any visible signs but its actually working in background, then tap haret...u should see haret loading up & a bunch of text briefly (depends d android build)...The htc screen u saw means d android build is working silently in d background so give it some time...check d android build's page for how long you should wait..(most tk abt 8-20mins, i use nand now so i'm not so sure).....if the above still doesn't work for you,then u should try using d various android/winmo dual-booting cab files out there...
P.S. Devs say its best u load up android within 3 secs of loading WinMo, so be as fast as u can...u could also try disabling htc sense to give a quicker loading time....If dat still doesn't work, then u might have to reflash an android-friendly WinMo ROM.
lol i dont think i gave it enough time..kinda impatient but i got it at the htc screen right now..im using the froyostone v4.0 build
1989jeremy said:
lol i dont think i gave it enough time..kinda impatient but i got it at the htc screen right now..im using the froyostone v4.0 build
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Dis you read the faq of the build you use? Like, wait 10-15mins on first boot...
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1989jeremy said:
lol i dont think i gave it enough time..kinda impatient but i got it at the htc screen right now..im using the froyostone v4.0 build
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Great...Remember 2 always read instructions carefully..the Devs put em there for a reason.
hmm...its been like 40 min an still at the htc screen...i looked for the thread but i cant remember which it was as ive been to a couple of them but neither one says how long the first boot would take
1989jeremy said:
hmm...its been like 40 min an still at the htc screen...i looked for the thread but i cant remember which it was as ive been to a couple of them but neither one says how long the first boot would take
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Try core evo sd series.
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do you have the link to the thread? i dont wanna download somethin different you know as a lot of things pop up in search
1989jeremy said:
do you have the link to the thread? i dont wanna download somethin different you know as a lot of things pop up in search
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Just go to sd development section, it should be on the 2nd page of that section. Try core evo v0.8 by sergio76 or evo carbon remix by motoman.
By the way, what sd card do you have? Model, make, size, class.
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ok thanx..itll work with the energy rom right?
1989jeremy said:
ok thanx..itll work with the energy rom right?
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Of course. That's what I was using before nandroid.
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I have an HTC HD2. I'd like to run Android so I can use the Intuit credit card processing software....
I'm looking for simple, idiot-proof, acronym-free instructions on finding and installing a current, stable, functional Android...
I'm sure the folks that hang out here all the time know what all the acronyms are, but I'm a touch baffled... I figured out "sd" means the SD card in the phone. But, "NAND", "CWM" "MAGDLR", and some of the arcane terminology is confusing, and I don't know what I NEED to know and what I can safely ignore...
So, I can guess and pick some Android installation (it appears there are dozens of notes touting competing versions) but it would be simpler if someone in here can recommend something for a computer literate user that doesn't want to be a cell phone O/S expert...
Recommendations?
instructions:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
nand tools:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
rom(cm7):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
rom(miui):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028693
rom(sense):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954369
simple flashing order:make hspl 2.08 using hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15.....-flash mgldr-flash proper cwr partition for selected rom-if you use eu hd2 make sd-ext partition in sd(this can be done by mgldr)-put your rom.zip in sd-in mgldr choose ad recovery-install zip from sd-choose zip from sd-after installation complete press back then reboot.ask again if you stuck
Not to sound ungrateful 'cause I'm sure there's a lot of useful information in there somewhere, but this is exactly why I'm requesting something idiot-proof...
simple flashing order:make hspl 2.08 using hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15.....-flash mgldr-flash proper cwr partition for selected rom-if you use eu hd2 make sd-ext partition in sd(this can be done by mgldr)-put your rom.zip in sd-in mgldr choose ad recovery-install zip from sd-choose zip from sd-after installation complete press back then reboot.ask again if you stuck
Why am I flashing anything?
What is hspl 2.09 and why would I need it?
what on EARTH does "hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15" even MEAN?
why do I need a "proper cwr partition"?
and what rom am I selecting?
and on and on......
OK, so I presume the above is either a test or a bit of humor at the uninformed observer's expense (that'd be me)...
So, can I have all this translated from phone geek to dumb end user now?
Again, I presume I can just put Android on the SD card without a lot of pain and anguish, so still wondering what's a good, stable, fully-functional installation that'll run the GoPayment software and let me swipe credit cards through the phone...
my question, did you read the links? i mean really really read them? not just click and say "oh ****, that's a lot of text, i need help?" trust me....read them...then read them again...then read it again. it will start to make sense. your questions--
best read for a lot of your questions (besides what was posted above):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
Why am I flashing anything?
- you said you wanted android. technically you could use an sdcard rom, but he was just trying to give you what you asked for. guess the question should be why are YOU flashing anything?
you should ask - do i want windows mobile and android, only android (get rid of windows mobile all together) or windows phone (wp7) and android. only then can we point you in the right direction.
What is hspl 2.08 and why would I need it?
- read my thread above!!!!!! cuz you can't flash android without it (this is a custom bootloader that allows your windows mobile phone to install magldr or clk which allows you to install android to nand - aka install android to your phone)
what on EARTH does "hspl4-task 29-flash radio 2.15" even MEAN?
ignore the task 29 (i have never done this).
hspl4 will install hspl2.08 to your phone. this unlocks the bootloader. layman's terms - allows you to install magldr or clk to install android (or windows phone 7)
you need a particular radio to make this all work. that radio is 2.15. a radio is what allows your phone to make calls/data/etc. don't ask why this is, this is just the way it is. the radio your phone came with is likely different.
why do I need a "proper cwr partition"?
- cuz this allows you to install android. too small a partition, android won't fit. too large a partition, wasted space. just right partition = all good. you need to READ the rom thread to know what is the right partition.
and what rom am I selecting?
- you need to READ about the flavors of roms. there are a bunch. take one and try it. if it doesn't work, find another.
Again, I presume I can just put Android on the SD card without a lot of pain and anguish,
- yes, this is true
so still wondering what's a good, stable, fully-functional installation that'll run the GoPayment software and let me swipe credit cards through the phone
- beats me. but why not just try something? sdcard roms cannot in anyway hurt your phone.
now go read. and read. and read. and then experiment. good luck.
here is the best idiot proof way to get android on your phone. it is a winmo rom that has android already built in so you wont have to figure out what is what. its so easy even a cave man can do it.
Well, as usual, the secret to getting the right answer is asking the right question. And the trick to asking the right question is knowing most of the answer....
I didn't........
What I'd LIKE to do is have some current, fully functional version of Android available so I can process credit cards through my HD2 using a swiper. Over time, I may attempt to migrate other things to Android - like contacts and such. But initially, I'm just concerned about the CC processing.
So, as I understand what I want to do, putting Android on the SD card will work, and I just need to figure out which one of the umpteen versions is a good one. I'd like a home page that looks at least somewhat like my current Windows page. I"d like the buttons to continue to work as they currently do (as much as possible)....
I went out and started looking at the various SD Android versions here and selected the nexushd2-gingerbread v2.8 one because of a reply in a previous note asking for a "good" Android......
Installed it, and it works fine, although I"m not particularly fond of the home page. Put the GoPayment application on, plugged in the swiper, and ran a charge.... Appears to work fine, so it solves my primary problem...
Now, since I've figured out I'd prefer to use an SD installation, and have one that works, is there a "better" one that I should try? One that looks and feels more like the Windows Mobile 6.5 I'm used to? Or, is there one that has a different look and feel, but some functionality that makes it superior to the others?
This ROM I'm about to recommend dates back to last November...
However, I have tried every SD ROM since that time, used them for either a few hours/days/weeks, and still always returned to this one. It is just flawless, albeit Android 2.2.
Just download it, throw the 'Android' folder into the SD Card, and run the two files (CLRCAD.exe which appears to do nothing, but does enable the sound, and then Haret.exe)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631&highlight=black+blue
If you decide to move off WinMob, then NANDs are good, but personally I just have a WinMob program which runs on boot and then executes those two files)
Enjoy!
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Now, since I've figured out I'd prefer to use an SD installation, and have one that works, is there a "better" one that I should try? One that looks and feels more like the Windows Mobile 6.5 I'm used to? Or, is there one that has a different look and feel, but some functionality that makes it superior to the others?
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do you like sense base builds or would you prefer 1 that doesn't have sense like cm7 or a miui ROM?
AmeriCanAndroid seems to be a favorite for a lot of people and is updated rather often but i personally like RafDroid HD found here. if you want to take a look at other android builds for the htc hd2 found here on xda check out this webpage. it will also give you some info about each ROM like the base, build, when it was updated & if it has sense or not. when you find one you want just click it & it will link you back to the page found on XDA.
Am I correct that "Sense" is the user interface used on the Windows Mobile HD2? If so, yes, I like it, but probably because I"m used to it. I'd have to try some different versions with different UIs to see what's most comfortable.
I'm currently running the nexushd2-gingerbread v2.8 one I downloaded yesterday. The UI is enough different that it's taking a little getting used to.
I'll have to give the others you mentioned a try, and go look at the web page that shows the different builds. I"m amazed at how many there are.
Just for fun I downloaded the AmeriCanAndroid 08/1/11 version and put it on the SD card..... Tried to run clrcad.exe and got the "CLRCAD annot be opened" error. Tried haret and got the same error. Both say "Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found..."
So, am I missing something simple or is there a problem with this build? I found a couple topics in here about problems with clrcad but they seemed to wander aimlessly without any resolution...
I've now looked through a couple DOZEN topics over the last year with complaints of exactly the problem I'm seeing with clrcad and haret... I don't see a resolution in ANY of them......
Yesterday, copied the files onto the phone for the nexus gingerbread Android, ran clrcad and haret and was up and running.......
Now, I've tried three different builds, including reinstalling the nexus one, and NONE of them will run. I get the same error for clrcad and haret every time.
Shutting down the phone didn't do anything.
I figure there's got to be a simple, obvious answer sitting here but I'm not finding it.
sense for windows mobile & sense for android are two different things. i personally dont know of any android rom or app thats availible in the market that will give you a windows mobile look or feel. i would find a rom that you want and then try & find a video on youtube that matches it so you can see what its like before you go through all the steps to flash it.
did you unzip AmeriCanAndroid or did you leave it in a zip file? i have since moved to nand builds so im going from memory which is starting to fail me in my old age but i think it needs to be unzipped using something like 7-zip. i think you just put the android folder on the root of your sd card. there is a video in the thread that shows you how to do the install. you can find that here.
so you tried to re-install something that worked for you yesterday but now you cant install it again? how long did you wait because with some builds it can take as long as 10-15 mins to install everything correctly. could you give me the steps you took step by step to try to install AmeriCanAndroid? i think thats the only way i would be able to help.
Yesterday I downloaded the Android 7z file. Unzipped it on the PC and let it create an android folder with all the files. Plugged in the phone and copied the android folder to the root of the SD card on the phone. Ran clrcad and haret on the phone and IT WORKED PERFECTLY.........
Today, just to try one of the builds recommended in here I downloaded a different android. did EXACTLY the same thing - unzipped with a 7z unzip, copied it to an android folder in the root of the phone, ran clrcad and got the error. Ran haret and got the same error........
Cleaned off the android folder on the phone, rebooted, tried a soft reset, etc.
Copied the nexus android build from the PC to the phone - EXACTLY AS I DID YESTERDAY WHEN IT WORKED. Ran clrcad and got the error......
I don't know what's going on with the phone or the Android builds or what, but there are a LOT of entries here and elsewhere on the web about people having exactly this problem. And so far I haven't seen the answer that makes this problem go away......
My recollection is that I had EXACTLY the same problem about 6 months ago. Installed an earlier version of Android and after the first time I rebooted the phone I could never get Android to run again. Just got the same clrcad and haret errors...
So, SOMEBODY, what's causing this and how do I get rid of it WITHOUT having to do some hard reset the destroys everything on the phone?
Back up any data on you sd card you need (I.e. pics, vids, music, whatever you feel important.) Download the Panasonic sd formatter and format your sd card. Copy over the android folder that is in the 7zip that you have unzipped. You should be able to boot ok from there.
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Formatted from the PC.
Installed the formatter on the PC. Formatted the SD card. MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. Copied the Android folder (the identical folder I copied yesterday) to the SD card, and STILL get exactly the same error from clrcad.....
Is this something that happens a lot? 'Cause so far, the two times I've had Android on this phone this has happened. And there are a LOT of topics out there with exactly this problem, and a lot of unsuccessful "do this" that don't appear to work. Does ANYBODY had a real fix for this? It worked perfectly 24 hours ago, now it doesn't. My BIG concern is that if Android is flaky and unreliable on the SD card I can't use this thing to do credit card processing if it's going to randomly fail and not be bootable.
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Yesterday I downloaded the Android 7z file. Unzipped it on the PC and let it create an android folder with all the files. Plugged in the phone and copied the android folder to the root of the SD card on the phone. Ran clrcad and haret on the phone and IT WORKED PERFECTLY.........
Today, just to try one of the builds recommended in here I downloaded a different android. did EXACTLY the same thing - unzipped with a 7z unzip, copied it to an android folder in the root of the phone, ran clrcad and got the error. Ran haret and got the same error........
Cleaned off the android folder on the phone, rebooted, tried a soft reset, etc.
So, SOMEBODY, what's causing this and how do I get rid of it WITHOUT having to do some hard reset the destroys everything on the phone?
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your suppose to copy the unzipped android folder to the root of your sd card and not your phone. i think thats why your getting an error.
example: download rom and unzip using 7-zip. take the "Android" folder not AmeriCanAndroid from within that file and drag_drop or copy_paste to the root of your sd card. then using a file manager from within winmo go to the android folder & run clrcad and then haret. it should run fine. you can also use a program called Rundroid that automats some of the work. its a great app that will allow you to dual boot android but i think you might find it useful as well, you can find it here. RunDroid will allow you to run several android builds from your sd, not just 1.
fwiw, I can't (won't) say anything bad about any custom ROM offered on this board. My own favorite (to use) is a personal choice, which doesn't make it superior to any other - though it may be. It's just what I'm used to, what works for me and what I'm satisfied with.
Doesn't matter if you use a stock HD2 WinMo setup, or a custom WinMo ROM on your HD2. An Android SD build won't interfere with it. And so... (personally) I use AmericanAndroid (ACA). It IS used by a majority of folks for good reason. - BUT - I'm trying my best to be careful and clear with YOU that it may not be the best solution for you or anyone else in particular. We don't play favorites on this site for good reason! For me though... it is an extremely easy ROM to implement.
So you're having a bit of trouble with clrcad & haret... No Problemo.
Google is your friend... find and install under WinMo the 'exceller bootloader'. You'll boot WinMo... and then run Exceller. It will shut down WinMo and run clrcad & haret.
Make sure you've properly installed ACA on your SD card first. No need to partition your SD card. Make sure you're clear with the instructions on the first page and be sure to edit the startup.txt file (before installation) to change the LCD pixel density from 167 (default) to 240... unless you have eagle eyes or like tiny icons & text.
This is your simplest solution, and... get to know it a bit before you swap it for something that might (possibly) not be better. There's a reason a majority of users have chosen to use this Android build.
I'd wish you good luck, but luck has nothing to do with these things. Have fun with it! -Rob
Yes, EVERYTHING was copied to the Android folder OF THE SD CARD......
I have no problem installing yet another piece of software to (hopefully) get the necessary clrcad and haret files to run, but THIS WORKED TWO DAYS AGO. Without a bootloader or anything else. It worked.....
And yes, Google is quite effective. It showed me dozens of topics in forums where people complained of EXACTLY the problem I'm having. What it DIDN'T show me was a fix that didn't involve reformatting the SD card, REPLACING the SD card, doing a hard reset on the phone, and (this one I haven't seen before) installing a boot loader to hopefully get around the issue... BTW: all the above with the exception of the boot loader were tried by people with no success.
FWIW: I"m not criticizing any of the Android builds in here. I'm sure they're largely excellent, with slightly different flavors. And they represent a huge amount of work, of which I'm cognizant and appreciative.
I presume the problem is with Windows Mobile, NOT the Android builds, but it would be comforting to have somebody provide a solution to why it works when installed, and doesn't work after a reboot. Did all those other people that had the same problem do what I did six months ago and just give up on Android as being more work than it was worth? This isn't an isolated problem, there are dozens (and probably hundreds) of instances of people not being able to get Android to boot.
Anyhow, I"ll go find an exceller bootloader and try that. Hopefully, the thing is controllable so if things still fail I can get back to Windows...
I spoke too soon....... It's early here (having started this again at 04:00), and maybe my brain just isn't working yet, or it could VERY possibly be that I'm just too stupid to be allowed to mess with this whole thing, but I eventually found a copy of EBL2.1a._PlusUbuntu.CAB and downloaded it to the PC.
Then I went and found instructions on installing a cab file on the HD2. According to them I just COPY the cab file from the folder on the pc to My Documents on the SD card of the phone, then disconnect the phone from the PC, navigate to the folder, and click on the cab file.......
OK, sounds simple enough....... Did so.
Got a popup on the phone that said it was "Installing ..." At the bottom I got "The program is from an unknown publisher... Do you want to continue?"
So, I clicked YES...... Again, fairly idiot-proof........
And got "Installation of EBL2.1a._PlusUbuntu.CAB was unsuccessful."
Nothing else.... Just the message on a blank screen...
I"ll leave out the amount of screaming and swearing I"m doing at this point.....
To anyone of knowledge I have a HTC HD2 I have been trying to install Android from on here from many diiferent links etc.. and everytime I installit to mycomputer then unzip and install on my SD i run the Clcrd then Haret then my phone either shows a penguine or htc logo I let it sit for over 2 to 4 hurs everytime i try to install it on my phone and it just sits there. is it something Im not doing are there steps Im missing or things I need to installl along with the android program i choose I am super frusrtated can someone please help me get android up and running .. Thanks
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To anyone of knowledge I have a HTC HD2 I have been trying to install Android from on here from many diiferent links etc.. and everytime I installit to mycomputer then unzip and install on my SD i run the Clcrd then Haret then my phone either shows a penguine or htc logo I let it sit for over 2 to 4 hurs everytime i try to install it on my phone and it just sits there. is it something Im not doing are there steps Im missing or things I need to installl along with the android program i choose I am super frusrtated can someone please help me get android up and running .. Thanks
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you should try looking in SD DEVELOPMENT lol,but to be honest,why would u want to install it on ur sd card when u can have nand lol,if u have it on your sd card,everytime you reboot your phone,it'll go back to windows mobile,stay well away from sd card,none of that **** copying intrid & zimage to the root of your sd card lol and haret to sort the sound out,go with nand,you won't regret it
I agree with Ty5982. Nand builds are much faster booting and reliable compare to SD. Any reason why you want SD build?
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To anyone of knowledge I have a HTC HD2 I have been trying to install Android from on here from many diiferent links etc.. and everytime I installit to mycomputer then unzip and install on my SD i run the Clcrd then Haret then my phone either shows a penguine or htc logo I let it sit for over 2 to 4 hurs everytime i try to install it on my phone and it just sits there. is it something Im not doing are there steps Im missing or things I need to installl along with the android program i choose I am super frusrtated can someone please help me get android up and running .. Thanks
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Agreed with other two posters, NAND is much better. As for your issue, I think it may be radio related, upgrade to HTCs latest official stock ROM 3.14
There's nothing wrong with SD builds. They're great for trying out Android without voiding your warranty, or to be able to dual boot Windows Mobile and Android, or to multi-boot NAND Android and different SD builds thru MAGLDR.
Just follow the instructions in the thread where you downloaded the build from, and all should be well.
Don't rename the folder that all the files such as HaRET and CLRCAD are in.
Go into that folder, open the startup.txt file in a text editing program, and check to see if it has a line that says Rel_path=
After Rel_path= it should say the name of the folder all your Android files reside in. If it's a different name than the folder name, re-name the folder to match the rel_path line, so if it says Rel_path=Droid69, then rename the folder to Droid69, and not droid69 as it is upper/lower case sensitive.
If you still can't get that build to run, try another I guess.
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There's nothing wrong with SD builds. They're great for trying out Android without voiding your warranty, or to be able to dual boot Windows Mobile and Android, or to multi-boot NAND Android and different SD builds thru MAGLDR.
Just follow the instructions in the thread where you downloaded the build from, and all should be well.
Don't rename the folder that all the files such as HaRET and CLRCAD are in.
Go into that folder, open the startup.txt file in a text editing program, and check to see if it has a line that says Rel_path=
After Rel_path= it should say the name of the folder all your Android files reside in. If it's a different name than the folder name, re-name the folder to match the rel_path line, so if it says Rel_path=Droid69, then rename the folder to Droid69, and not droid69 as it is upper/lower case sensitive.
If you still can't get that build to run, try another I guess.
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the hd2 was built so it could manage without a warranty.............so let the beast come out of the phone and go nand,no 2 ways about it
NAND and SD is even better, check my sig
a Im also In Toledo is there any way I can get u to help me do this correctly i will inbox my # to u
Yeah i cld probly help ya out, pm me
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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There's nothing wrong with SD builds. They're great for trying out Android without voiding your warranty,
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Dude, if you're worried about warranty you are on the wrong site
Also, even if it does void your warranty, Its easy to get your device back to stock. Its not as if you need to open your device and rip the warranty stickers to get Android on nand lol.
No, I'm clearly not worried about my warranty, I was simply pointing out that that is one of the advantages of SD builds. Some people are worried about their warranties, or afraid they might brick their phone flashing a nand rom, and the sd builds are a safe alternative for risk averse or less experienced members.
I didn't say sd builds are the only or best way to go, I just said theres nothing wrong with them. Additionally, I don't think this is the wrong site for those who are worried about their warranties, there's still a wealth of information on this site for those who don't want to void their warranties.
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Which Radio do you have? I had similiar problems to you but changing radio resolved them all, the first boot of any SD build should not take more than 20min, more means you're stuck. But again, NAND Roms are totally better then SD - faster, more stable, better battery usage etc. And Android wins with WinMo 6.5 in every challange so I would consider flashing a NAND ROM if I were you. Hyperdroid for the very beginning - definitely the best ROM available.
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To anyone of knowledge I have a HTC HD2 I have been trying to install Android from on here from many diiferent links etc.. and everytime I installit to mycomputer then unzip and install on my SD i run the Clcrd then Haret then my phone either shows a penguine or htc logo I let it sit for over 2 to 4 hurs everytime i try to install it on my phone and it just sits there. is it something Im not doing are there steps Im missing or things I need to installl along with the android program i choose I am super frusrtated can someone please help me get android up and running .. Thanks
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I think you should use one of latest ROM below and notice with some instruction on this topic, everything will ok:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010498
HELP ME!
Okay I don't know if I'm posting on the right thread or not but I need help. I want to install the IceCreamSandwich/jellyBean rom on my HD2 SD card as well, its my only option since my usb port is broken. I already had gingerbread installed but I want to upgrade. I formatted my SD card (don't ask me why) by mistake. So whenever I cut my phone on it goes to the bootloader menu and somehow I navigate myself back to gingerbread. I'm a "noob" so I have little to no idea what I'm doing. Is installing this after all I've done even still possible? I need help please and thank you!