Database Users

Please i mean PLEASE stop spamming the forums!

Take this how ever you want, but i think it's time to start using the search and stop spamming the same questions over and over again.
For example, look at the threads of all the leaked firmwares, they are full of crap. Same questions asked in every page over and over again in every firmware leak.
Pathetic.
Other example would be about flashing the firmware, c'mon SON, read the sticky posts already. No you didn't brick your phone, stop panicking.
Sorry to fill the forums with this rant, but JESUS, PLEASE.

Can only agree with you. Nothing else.

I agree completely. Getting tired of the "How do I flash this?" question. I mean for f**k sake. If you even consider flashing a device, then read the excellent sticky's made. They explain every single thing in detail.

Hear hear! The more I see this crap the more I think of the movie "Idiocracy" and think this **** might be happening now.

this thread is spam.... just saying. The people that cause the problems probably won't find this thread just like they cannot find the other ones.

I miss you MooseFist.
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I agree my man...

Is normal, too many here are getting overly excited about the test firmwares.

Agreed, why can't people do some research for themselves?

clutter. can we get this deleted?

this topic should have been in the General subforum, along with all those other things mentioned above.
but yes, it's true, new people joining XDA forums are not using the search.
i don't have MOD power, else i'll help merging all the same related topics peoples keeps making over and over again.

This needs to be here.

Sure This need to be here.
Most Important Thread i ever seen in SGS forums
I dont know what mods r doing here in this forum. They just let people to fight each other instead of call it quit.
Worst moderators i ever seen in any forums
Shame

I think the search function should be improved.

2nd post OP rule & remove 30 second search limitation please
buddy01 said:
Take this how ever you want, but i think it's time to start using the search and stop spamming the same questions over and over again.
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I do not understand a post like this.
Firstly, anyone who is too lazy/thick/confused/unlucky to not find the info they need before posting is CERTAINLY NOT going to be reading this thread, so all it does is spread your anger on the forum, which is not helpful or pleasant.
Secondly, before anyone can complain about people who do not search, XDA must remove the 30 seconds per search limitation. I have often not found something I want after two or three searches, get tired of waiting for another 30 seconds and then post a question. Im sure this happens to a LOT of the people you are flaming.
Thirdly, I really dont like this culture of arrogant snobbery that a some experienced users/cooks show on xda, its a lot like high school bullying, where a group of people "in the know" put down those lazy/thick/confused/unlucky ones who are not intentionally TRYING to be annoying, they are just lazy/thick/confused/unlucky... so collectively being pissed with them is really for your gratification, not for the good of xda.
Lastly, I'd like xda to also make an OP's rule that the second or third post in a thread is a summary of all the gotchas, tips, warnings, findings... all the stuff that you would never see if you were faced with a 2000 page thread!
tx
Mark.

This in itself is a useless thread, and i feel dirty posting here. However, since the people you are complaining about do not read, then they obviously aren't going to read this are they. A post like this is troll bait tbh.
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Some people feel if they haven't posted a reply every 2-3 minutes, they haven't really browsed a forum. What the OP says is right.

It is not the goal of a forum to be a place where we can post questions ?
I understand that sometimes it's very annoying to see the same question 10 times again and again, but come on.... We were all newbies one day, with a question that maybe we searched before, and didn't find anything revelant/working, don't you think ?
Furthermore, it's the same problem on every (big?) forum you'll browse. Will you post such thing everywhere ?
I can agree about people posting in wrong section (ie, all in Dev forums to be more seen). Exemple : Your post. Nothing to do in dev.
So before asking people to follow rules, start by following it yourself...
Useless thread.

fredphoesh said:
Thirdly, I really dont like this culture of arrogant snobbery that a some experienced users/cooks show on xda
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@OP For me personally, reading a question multiple times is actually far less agitating than reading your aggressive unnecessary and above all self-righteous tantrum.
If this issue really bothers you that much that it leaves you feeling sad, aggressive and hateful of anybody that dares to ask for help, I suggest you seek professional psychiatric help.
EDIT: As mentioned earlier you posted this thread in the wrong section. Hahahahahaha ROFL. Geez man, who peed in your cheerios?!

This thread itself is in fact worse than these annoying annoying questions msung complained about. If a thread really bothers you just report it and be on your way.
I agree that removing the 30 second search delay would help. 10 seconds is more reasonable.
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Development stickies

Hello! Recently, as many of us have noticed, the moderator of the Vibrant forums here on XDA has decided to consolidate all of the sticky threads in to a single thread. I, and several other members of XDA, have some major concerns with this including:
Former stickies are mixed in with development threads
Stickies are more difficult to find
Stickies receive less attention, and therefore there is less incentive to update them
Since having easy to access information reduces the number of off-topic and question posts over in development I put forth a suggestion to our moderator, that the users of XDA decide if the stickies are returned or an alternative solution is devised! If there is a majority in favor of changing the presence of the stickies mmelo has stated that he will abide by the will of the users.
If anyone has any alternative solutions besides the ones I have posted in the poll please come forward with them!

Being someone who has two of these stickies, the ones geared for those who need the most help... And the amount of time I spent... And for all those who post questions in them that I answer...
I'm a little offended and upset. I mean first there were stickies that had absolutely no business being stickied and now lumping them all together (now I have no clue if someone posts a question).. Whatever, I've taken a break from it for a few days and it's been nice. Perhaps this is my sign to just quit trying to help so much.
Perhaps we just need a new bibrant moderator too though.
Edit: I guess my suggestion is:
How it was before (before meaning not including threads that should not be stickies)
a new mod, someone who has a pulse on the vibrant and speaks English (isn't that a guideline for being a mod)... I mean absolutely no disrespect, just being honest.

My suggestion was to remove threads like the Nero fixes and stuff and the Samsung numbers.
Not your threads but I guess he didn't exactly understand,but this being a mobile website and all the stickies were filling up most of the screen.
There's plenty positives about this and negatives, but the statement its harder to find is BS.
U guys tell newbies to search anyways and searching will only lead to the same thread.

Find a post where I said search, AND didn't provide an answer.
It is harder. If someone posts a question, I have no clue now unless my thread happens to be on page 1.
The only positive I see is that you don't have to scroll down as much...

You know if you guys don't like what he is doing to the vibrant forum you can always go above him and let the administrators know.
A mod is just an employee and they aren't perfect, some even abuse their powers at times.
Ultimately if the forum members aren't happy then let the people above the mods know.
I personally think there were too many stickies to begin with, but sticking them all in one, including the bible and noob guide was a bad idea. Just my opinion that is all.

As someone who searched first and asked later. I miss the previous setup.
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I liked it the way it was tbh. Was very helpful to have all the info in one area, now i have to search for everything than bookmark it.

ZachLL88 said:
I liked it the way it was tbh. Was very helpful to have all the info in one area, now i have to search for everything than bookmark it.
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Search for everything? You guys are over exaggerating it.
Its all in 1 sticky.
At the TOP of the page.
S15,you want to answer questions on it thread? Bookmark your thread and check it once in a while. Your not going to get 500 questions at a time and lose answering questions.

s15274n said:
Being someone who has two of these stickies, the ones geared for those who need the most help... And the amount of time I spent... And for all those who post questions in them that I answer...
I'm a little offended and upset. I mean first there were stickies that had absolutely no business being stickied and now lumping them all together (now I have no clue if someone posts a question).. Whatever, I've taken a break from it for a few days and it's been nice. Perhaps this is my sign to just quit trying to help so much.
Perhaps we just need a new bibrant moderator too though.
Edit: I guess my suggestion is:
How it was before (before meaning not including threads that should not be stickies)
a new mod, someone who has a pulse on the vibrant and speaks English (isn't that a guideline for being a mod)... I mean absolutely no disrespect, just being honest.
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s15 did put a lot of work into his thread. I tried searching for something and IT IS harder to get an answer. I say we put it how it was. Especially for the new people here.
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HG! said:
s15 did put a lot of work into his thread. I tried searching for something and IT IS harder to get an answer. I say we put it how it was. Especially for the new people here.
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Why are you saying search???
Its the first thing up there. WHY ARE YOU SEARCHING?
clicking 1thing to get info on 5 other threads isn't that hard.

The quality of Modmanship.............

Is none of my concern.
Delete thread please?

Its a very very fine line between being a good administrator and being a clown.
I own a forum with over 2500 members (very small, but thats the way we like it), and am an admin on three others.
I give my mods pretty much free reign to do as they wish, BUT I often find myself going back and cleaning up messes.
It is very important for the continuity of information that threads be kept in the appropriate section. It would have taken less time to simply move this thread than to answer the way that he did.
But as I said, its a rough life as a mod/admin. No pay, no appreciation in most cases, and it does nothing but anger the family...
Take it easy on the guy, he really is just trying to do what he thinks is best for the community. Unless his post was edited, I see absolutely nothing offensive about it. In fact, this thread is more offensive than the one you are referencing.

Ja, you are right about some things. But it should have just been moved.Different viewpoints. I also mod a forum, sorry that this thread offended you, but i got offended seeing a relative newcomer get the cold shoulder when asking nicely.
That is more offensive.
Going to delete the content of original post. My time of the month.
Rant over
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Right ok.....
First of all, yes I acted like a ****.
In my defence I'm having to move at least 10 threads a day from general to q&a... despite a sticky and a forum announcement explaining that questions should not be posted here.
When I realised that the thread your talking about was posted by a new member I'm pretty sure I unlocked it and moved it to q&a....
I can't promise I'll pay the same courtesy to members who should know better though.
I have spent the past two weeks moving every [Q] thread that appeared but unfortunately that doesn't help to get the message across.
Like I said, I guess I was being a **** but then again I'm just trying to keep this place tidy for everyone's benefit and if I have to make that point by locking a few threads here and there then I will.
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Okay.... looks like I didn't unlock the thread and move it. I have now.
Op, feel free to redo your first post if you want. It was a valid point.
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conantroutman said:
Right ok.....
First of all, yes I acted like a ****.
In my defence I'm having to move at least 10 threads a day from general to q&a... despite a sticky and a forum announcement explaining that questions should not be posted here.
When I realised that the thread your talking about was posted by a new member I'm pretty sure I unlocked it and moved it to q&a....
I can't promise I'll pay the same courtesy to members who should know better though.
I have spent the past two weeks moving every [Q] thread that appeared but unfortunately that doesn't help to get the message across.
Like I said, I guess I was being a **** but then again I'm just trying to keep this place tidy for everyone's benefit and if I have to make that point by locking a few threads here and there then I will.
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You dont have to explain a thing bud, Its the idiots who cant read that we should be complain about not the mods doing their job.
Alot of people including myself are sick and tired of crap getting posted in wrong places, its really irritating and tbh stickies or announcements shouldn't even need to be made, its pretty much common sense and anybody with half of a brain can see which section which kind of topic goes in and which it doesn't. Obviously though we get some people who either cant grasp this concept who are just too lazy to read forum titles.

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You dont have to explain a thing bud, Its the idiots who cant read that we should be complain about not the mods doing their job.
Alot of people including myself are sick and tired of crap getting posted in wrong places, its really irritating and tbh stickies or announcements shouldn't even need to be made, its pretty much common sense and anybody with half of a brain can see which section which kind of topic goes in and which it doesn't. Obviously though we get some people who either cant grasp this concept who are just too lazy to read forum titles.
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Tbh, I agree with you. Nothing worse when someone just types out a question, about something that is probably answered just two threads below.
conantroutman, sorry matey, I didnt mean to have a go at you personally. Had ****ty day too. I do apologise, sincerely. As for redoing the first post, Nah, it IS none of my concern. I really dont mind if you delete/close this thread.

No problem man, dont sweat it......
Im not gonna delete the thread as some may see it as me "covering my tracks".
I will however close it and leave it with the declaration that;
If anyone, for any reason has an issue with the a decision I make in regards to moderating the forums then please feel free to PM me and let me know.
Your statutory rights will not be affected

General Chat

I come from Xperia x10 and their we were having a thread for general chat,Offtopic,Helping some people if they ask for help
So it makes less spam and we can talk to each other here on xda and creating threads like "Brazilian GS2 thread,Indian GS2 thread,etc divides people
Ok guys/gals here it goes, Hopefully, this can become a sticky
Im gonna explain why I have decided to create this thread, and then I'm gonna explain what this thread will be all about.
First, why did I create this thread? I have noticed lately alot of members who like to get a little chatty in certain threads...whether its in the general section, dev section or themes & apps. Sometimes we can get a little carried away with our talking and it usually ends up with another member(s) telling these 2,3 sometimes 4 people to stay on topic and stop flooding the thread..Rightfully so. Sometimes, it also goes as far as a mod having to come into the thread, spend time cleaning it up, and then hand out bans, warnings, etc etc...rightfully so.
So, whats this thread all about? It's simple...THERE ARE NO TOPICS! we as XDA members sometimes like to talk..period! Within this thread we can talk about whatever we want...your fav rom, your fav theme, your fav theme with fav rom, other phones, cars, tv's, dslr camera, your job, where you live, post pictures of random cool things..etc etc.
The great thing about this is there will be NO going off topic, no warnings about going off topic, no being sent on vacation etc etc. This DOES NOT mean you now have the right to disrespect other members. This simply means you are now free to talk about whatever it is you want. Just as if we were all sitting around a camp fire with a beer in each hand...good ol' conversation!
The only thing I can ask of this is remember every member will and has there own opinion about anything that may get mentioned in this thread...PLEASE respect that! Don't be rude to other members, don't start fighting. This thread is our chance to finally go "off topic" without any harm.
This thread can be fun...I noticed alot of people who like to talk...so lets do this.
ps. Just because I created this thread does not mean in any way that I am gonna run it or be in control...oh helll no lol. This thread is for all of us to run and have fun. I suspect we are all mature enough to keep this thread fun, clean, stupid (you know how you get stupid sometimes, but it's funny lol) funny, and also help other people out with anything that gets talked about.
So, what do you guys say? Lets do this or what?

There's a general chat forum, ranging from xda forum chat, to general phone chat, all the way through to off-topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=240
Any thread like this will just get moved there, cos that's what it's for.

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There's a general chat forum, ranging from xda forum chat, to general phone chat, all the way through to off-topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=240
Any thread like this will just get moved there, cos that's what it's for.
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This is for SGS2 owners
As i said this will make spam/offtopic/chit-chat in dev/general section less
and we can also help people with problems here
good if u can read the whole OP
BR

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This is for SGS2 owners
As i said this will make spam/offtopic/chit-chat in dev/general section less
and we can also help people with problems here
good if u can read the whole OP
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No need to be rude. This is not an off-topic forum. There is one of those already so please use that. There should be no chit-chat in the dev forum, and general chat IS the place for SGS2 general chat. Anything non-SGS2 related should go elsewhere.
I'll ask a mod to close this redundant thread now as it's in the wrong place.

sahibunlimited,
At this time, we would like to discourage any off-topic chatter in these forums.
Similar threads have been tried, as you mention, but there has been mixed results.
Thanks
crachel

Why are general topic threads being closed?

I for one like the idea of a general topic thread, but I don't understand why someone that trolls is not banned or their comments removed instead of closing the thread.
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+1
I agree completely. I'm not trolling with that statement either.
Honestly, now that we have 2 mods another thread COULD be opened. The probability of conflict due to misunderstandings, differences of opinion and, perhaps for some, dislike of a fellow member or members is still pretty high.
XDA stands for something special. It's a community of people trying to advance its knowledge through helping and sharing. Sometimes egos, not excluding mine, get inflated and the perceived need to stand up for what one feels is right becomes too much to let lie.
Sometimes people just throw out bait to see who bites. These instigators are known as "trolls."
The latter is frowned upon, but not necessarily wrong, as long as things aren't pushed too far. The former, well, good luck with that one. Remember that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Doing something wrong just to do it is not ok. Doing something wrong because you feel you are fighting for something important is another story. There is the letter of the law, and the spirit in which the law is written.
Again, I'm honestly NOT trolling.

The few should not be allowed to ruin it for the many.
It would be a great day for our XDA community if our senior moderators would embrace this philosophy and push for this change.
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I, for one am guilty of standing up for myself on here. Take it or leave it. I don't let stuff ride. I'm not here to get respect or gain popularity. I do all that I do for fun and to give back. I'm known as a cocky s.o.b but I'm also known to help a fellow member out as much as my knowledge allows. I've spent numerous hours on talk, pm's and email helping people out that just quite can't get it. The thing that just makes me mad is when you see plain stupidity in your face. For example, I've seen at least a dozen people ask "Where is the low mic fix?" when if the person would search or read back 5 pages you'd find the answer. Back when this Glacier thread started you wouldn't even think of asking a question in the dev section without searching at least 10 times and if you asked such a dumb question you would get reprimanded and issued a infraction and your comment deleted. If I would get on someone now, they'd call me names and blah, blah, blah and the poop tossing would begin. The other day I was speaking out against what I thought was unfair in the general section and I don't take back any of it but to have me censored while idiots actually crowd the dev section with questions really made me mad. I have a change of heart now because the moderators are now getting back to the days of old and doing something about the useless posts. +1 to them. Since we had lack of moderating for 6 or so months, the "noobs" that are now senior members think its ok to do what they do and that's when I'm on your ****. Love me, hate me, I honestly don't gaf....end of rant.
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I completely agree with you, I think part of it is people want the cool new stuff without actually reading and learning a thing or two; while it's understandable that you may not have time to look things up, we say these things for the benefit of users themselves. Trust me, the benefits of looking up things on your own and asking after you feel you've searched your ass off are far more greater than just being told everything. Going from releasing a port, to building from source, to being asked by awesome to join team inferno and learning some github all within my first few months of developing on my first and only android phone; I'd say I'm pretty good proof of how effective doing a bit of research is (seeing as I had no prior knowledge on how to do ANYTHING but flash a rom). It's not like you're being asked to read a 700 page documentation on the android system... and although better moderation required us to lose our BS thread and possibly some infractions to some long-time users, it's good that we're starting to get that old sense of moderation back...
tldr; XDA isn't here to hold your hand (so don't assume it is), but if you put some time into reading and learning the benefits are basically limitless.

sckboy78 said:
I, for one am guilty of standing up for myself on here. Take it or leave it. I don't let stuff ride. I'm not here to get respect or gain popularity. I do all that I do for fun and to give back. I'm known as a cocky s.o.b but I'm also known to help a fellow member out as much as my knowledge allows. I've spent numerous hours on talk, pm's and email helping people out that just quite can't get it. The thing that just makes me mad is when you see plain stupidity in your face. For example, I've seen at least a dozen people ask "Where is the low mic fix?" when if the person would search or read back 5 pages you'd find the answer. Back when this Glacier thread started you wouldn't even think of asking a question in the dev section without searching at least 10 times and if you asked such a dumb question you would get reprimanded and issued a infraction and your comment deleted. If I would get on someone now, they'd call me names and blah, blah, blah and the poop tossing would begin. The other day I was speaking out against what I thought was unfair in the general section and I don't take back any of it but to have me censored while idiots actually crowd the dev section with questions really made me mad. I have a change of heart now because the moderators are now getting back to the days of old and doing something about the useless posts. +1 to them. Since we had lack of moderating for 6 or so months, the "noobs" that are now senior members think its ok to do what they do and that's when I'm on your ****. Love me, hate me, I honestly don't gaf....end of rant.
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i agree. the stupidity around here is just amazing. take the most recent one i've seen for example. i'm not going to name any names, but you know who you are.
this guy comes around and posts a question in the General Section. that's already a mistake. who doesn't know that Questions go in the Q & A Section? and then, since he didn't get any answers, he ventures on over to the Development Section, literally picks a random thread, and posts his question there. his question has NOTHING to do with what the topic is about. completely unacceptable. and then, when another forum member tells him that he shouldn't do that, what does he do? he goes on calling names. hey man, it's not our fault you have no respect for others. all this person could've done was just SEARCH. Google it, Bing it, Yahoo it, i don't care, you could've at least SEARCHED before you asked. yeah okay, maybe if you had only a few post counts, then i would forgive you, but no, this is a Senior Member, with over 200 posts! things like this shouldn't even happen from such an "experienced xda user". and i'm seeing things like this more and more everyday, not just in in Glacier forums, but pretty much everywhere else. noobs come along with only a few posts, and they see that they need 10+ posts to post in the Development Sections. so what do they do? they spam all the other sections and threads until they get more than 10 posts, then they begin spamming the Development Sections with their stupid questions that could've been answered by a search. and that's not all. since they can't spam the Development Sections with under 10 posts, they spam the DEVELOPER'S PMS. i have over 1000 PMs in my inbox, i'd say over 3/4 of them are useless garbage asked by idiots who are too lazy to search.
now about the off topic threads:
i really like the idea, it's a great way for forum members to hang out and have friendly chats for one another, but one thing i had noticed going on in the old BS Thread was that noobs with less than 10 posts would come here and post until they get 10 posts. i actually even read some other posts that encouraged this action. so while the off topic threads are great, they also have downsides to them as well.
IMO, we should just make it that you can only post in the Q & A Section until you have a certain amount of posts, cause honestly, most of the first few posts are just plain stupid questions that can be answered, by a simple search.
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Benignoid said:
I thought this was a community? What kind of community can't even communicate for fun with each other and just talk? Dang the government! (the mods) *end rant*
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I'm going to act like I didn't read that.
As for the off topic thread. I'll allow one of but once it gets hectic like the last one. *You know who I'm talking to* starting problems calling people etc, it's gone an infractions are handed out.
Yall decide in this thread, who will open it.

The Archangel said:
I'm going to act like I didn't read that.
As for the off topic thread. I'll allow one of but once it gets hectic like the last one. *You know who I'm talking to* starting problems calling people etc, it's gone an infractions are handed out.
Yall decide in this thread, who will open it.
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Dibs?
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Dibs?
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There are no dibs. THIS IS WAR!!!

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Dibs?
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Do it.

Does the Q&A need a b.s. thread?
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md1008 said:
Does the Q&A need a b.s. thread?
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No I think we're lucky to get one
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