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Recent issues with low RAM

Recently my ram has drop dramatically I used to have around 500mb free now no matter how many apps I kill even after a fresh boot I can't free up more than 350mb has anyone run into this issue?
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drock212 said:
Recently my ram has drop dramatically I used to have around 500mb free now no matter how many apps I kill even after a fresh boot I can't free up more than 350mb has anyone run into this issue?
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Is 350MB low? Does it affect the phone's performance at all?
C'mon! If the device works well, it doesn't matter if you have 350MB or 800MB free. By the way, 350MB is way too much RAM. I have a Milestone and I usually get 35 to 45MB out of 256MB after reboot. The phone works like a charm.
So, why should you bother for this insignificance?

android is not windows 98
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-applications/65483-task-killers-answer-google-developers.html
why you want more free ram ?

drock212 said:
Recently my ram has drop dramatically I used to have around 500mb free now no matter how many apps I kill even after a fresh boot I can't free up more than 350mb has anyone run into this issue?
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Seeing thus aswell. If your phone is rooted freeze all the crappy moto things that you don't use. And that should help a little bit.
I updated so I cannot freeze any apps at the moment. But I uninstall all the apps that constantly reset/start, this makes more ram and better battery. Also my zg ran super fast with only 10-20 ram and it works flawless.

Ram displaying problem

Hey guys if I check in he settings it shows that I have around 230 mb ram free but if I check using a taskkiller or any third party app it tells me that I have only 80-90 mb ram free when the settings menu is showing 230 mb free
Could this mean that we have less ram available and se is just making a joke of it?
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I would believe the phone, not the task killer.

ammarcool12 said:
Hey guys if I check in he settings it shows that I have around 230 mb ram free but if I check using a taskkiller or any third party app it tells me that I have only 80-90 mb ram free when the settings menu is showing 230 mb free
Could this mean that we have less ram available and se is just making a joke of it?
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I believe the pgone stores cache from apps in ram to, but it can easily be overwriten by apps that reallt need the extra ram. So it's free for any app to take but not all of the free ram is unused. I believe this cache is for apps that use multitasking just to start up quickly. It's not a problem if they lose their place in the ram for a game as they'll just have to restart without (significant) loss of data.
If you check the free ram in the running services list, you can click on the free ram indicator in the bottom to see what's loaded in it.

svenk919 said:
I believe the pgone stores cache from apps in ram to, but it can easily be overwriten by apps that reallt need the extra ram. So it's free for any app to take but not all of the free ram is unused. I believe this cache is for apps that use multitasking just to start up quickly. It's not a problem if they lose their place in the ram for a game as they'll just have to restart without (significant) loss of data.
If you check the free ram in the running services list, you can click on the free ram indicator in the bottom to see what's loaded in it.
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I see ....
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RAM on the Nexus S

Hey guys I was checking my phone under the running services because my phone was slowing down. And then I noticed that my total RAM only adds up to about 280mb.. is this normal?
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Yes the other 220 is for the os
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It's for the GPU and the OS

Actually, most of it is for the baseband processor and a little fraction for the kernel.

malstryx said:
Hey guys I was checking my phone under the running services because my phone was slowing down. And then I noticed that my total RAM only adds up to about 280mb.. is this normal?
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grab autokiller from the market and set it to optimum. keeps everything real smooth

Don't touch app killer/task manager. Android 2.2.x/2.3.x is perfectly capable of keeping track of the RAM.

rentaric said:
Don't touch app killer/task manager. Android 2.2.x/2.3.x is perfectly capable of keeping track of the RAM.
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I second that, do not use Task Killers. Google themselves and many other well known Android sites say to not use them if your on Froyo or higher.

rentaric said:
Don't touch app killer/task manager. Android 2.2.x/2.3.x is perfectly capable of keeping track of the RAM.
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I third that. Probably the number 1 noob mistake. Sadly some stores install them for you which doesn't help either.
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Rem3Dy said:
I third that. Probably the number 1 noob mistake. Sadly some stores install them for you which doesn't help either.
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I fourth that. It makes your battery life drain faster.
Anyone wanna plead the fifth?

Do I count to quote myself as 5th?

I wasn't saying he should use a task killer.
Autokiller is a memory minfree manager app with a unfortunate name. Look it up free in the market.
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thedudejdog said:
I wasn't saying he should use a task killer.
Autokiller is a memory minfree manager app with a unfortunate name. Look it up free in the market.
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i use auto memory manager, it keeps the ram level just where i like it.

Oh okay that all makes sense. And sure I'll give that a try. Thanks guys!

reading about the appkiller which kills more battery life... is that the case with the built in app killer in cm7/deck 's rom?

hi
in my nexus it is showing 345 mb. i am getting around 160 mb free

count me as -1 because i do feel the need to force close some apps in order to regain smoothness and speed.
Android memory management might be good but it's not always enough as it feels ok if you only have 40mb or less free ram but the launcher will probably become sluggish and lagging.

Amazing tip for RAM freeing (Requires ROOT)

Once ur device is Rooted, install system tuner pro, and disable some of the apps u have installed from play store, disable them from boot up, and use Ram booster pro when ever Ram get Full...
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Thank you for this.
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Hi,
But why do you want more free RAM? What's the point to having more free RAM?
With Android it is useless... You are happy with 500 Mb free RAM? Well, and about the multitasking?
You think your SIII will be faster, smoother or anything else with more free RAM? This is just the opposite
These kind of threads are....

More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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shaneel1491 said:
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
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Seriously you were just in the thread that discussed why more free RAM IS NOT BETTER. stop spreading ridiculous threads of misinformation please and thanks.

How can free Ram not be better??
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shaneel1491 said:
How can free Ram not be better??
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Google "how RAM management works in android"

If u do alot multitasking u should not have much free ram becuz all the apps running in backround. If u close backround apps to free some ram that means u just kill the ongoing multitasking ur phone is doing and next time u go back to ur previous app it has to be started again so it actually slowsdown ur phone when ur system actually needs more ram it kills the apps by it self... so no need for that much free ram :/
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But before, I used a Turbo downloader and every time I left the app and came back the download had failed, nw none of the apps are doing this any more...
This is just my way of being more efficient... If it doesn't work 4 u then that's fine, but it is awesome 4 me
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Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...

Free RAM on android systems is wasted ram.
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shaneel1491 said:
More free RAM helps me with all my multitasking, I personally use my S3 like a computer, so I would need lots of free RAM
PS. I have over 150 apps from the market installed, before this tweak I only had like 100mb of RAM free now I got like 380mb
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Ok, and...?
Android doesn't work like your computer (with Windows I presume) it's the opposite
You "would need lots of free RAM", it's for you not that the system needs
You have 150 apps with 100 mb of free RAM and now 380 mb of free RAM with you "tip", other than number of free RAM you see in System Tuner, What has changed???
Just the apps you use regularly/often are killed and when you open them they put so much time after like a reboot because they are not kept in memory...

viking37 said:
Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:

LiquidNarwhal said:
Thank you for posting such intelligent responses, I thought XDA was starting to become all idiots :highfive:
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Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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nodstuff said:
Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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Hi,
Ah ah ah I agree with you LOL!
I remember the thread about the CPU temp... , yes here it's the same...
A thread about RAM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802932 and there are others in this style

nodstuff said:
Ya, he rescued me from the mouth breathers that were trying to argue with me about CPU temp.
Xda is at risk of being overrun by idiots.
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There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day

LET ANDROID MANAGE HER MEMORY
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Have a nice day LOL...

watsa said:
There is a reason this was said "Never argue with an idiot; he will bring you down to his level and win from experience". Precisely what might have happened to you the other day
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I love a good quote!
Its so true though.
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When browsing the web and playing games on the S3 you'll often find a crash. This is because the device has low memory. Deleting apps that use this resource will help by not wasting the memory ie the RAM.
I think its fair to say that the S3 demonstrates that low ram is a reality. I wish people would stop trying to defend the phone by saying low RAM is wasted. Get over it. It is real. The S3 cannot multitask like the S2 because the ROM is packed full of ****e running which is using up the RAM.
Thanks to the OP for posting this.

and aside from what many people have said on how memory works in android,
take a look at settings > application manager > running > then click the bottom "show cached processes"
for those who like to use 3rd party memory managers they will included these cached processes in killing.
they may kill unnecessary processes but along with it those apps that you always use.
now after killing those cached processes, you will see the system caching a new list of apps and many of them are not the ones you use.
thus memory managers/task killers are just spending cpu cycles in turn battery power killing tasks/apps that you always use and when the system detects the free memory it will load apps into cache and usually those apps aren't the one you use.
thus kills the purpose of those task killers/memory managers of freeing memory since the system will just load apps into memory and cache them.

Is this normal RAM usage?

Hello,
I just got my T-Mobile G2 a couple of days ago. I don't have a lot of experience yet but I'm curious if this is the normal RAM usage vs availability. If so do you have any problems running high end games, apps, etc? I am presently on 4.4.2. I have used Titanium Backup to freeze a lot of system apps. This just seems like it could be an issue. I also use Greenify to hibernate some apps as well. Any thoughts on this?
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I would love to get an expert answer on this. I recently changed it PAC Man Rom and now it appears I have even less available memory. I'm not noticing any lag or anything but it just bugs me. I added up everything cached and running and it totalled like 364mb not even half a gig of ram. This phone has 2GB of ram. So I dunno just seems weird to me. I guess as long as it's not all laggy then that's what matters.
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Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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What good is the RAM if you don't use it?

XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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I guess my confusion is what happens if I've got 400 mb of ram and I go to play GTA San Andreas... Lol. Will it pull it off? Guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Yes that's normal use I usually have around 300-400 mb ram and another note that everyone makes unused ram is useless ram
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Yeah, the more RAM used the better. I'm using PA3.99RC2 with a kernel (I forget where I got it; just says d800 custom 5 cm) that doesn't use enough RAM. I always have 700-800MB free. I don't know what sysctl changes I can make to increase RAM use. I hope my phone isn't using a swap on its slow mobile phone NAND .

You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.

coowkeee said:
You can use Greenify which now doesn't require root. You can disable apps/system apps running on background that you don't use.
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I have Greenify. But nevertheless I played Riptide GP2 earlier with full graphics. Smooth as butter. Good enough for me. :thumbup:
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